It was a step-by-step progress. I found the information about Isaac Guille, and his family listed in: "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index" Vol. 1, A-G. Edited by P. William Filby The reference number beside this family's entry was "2524." That number was found in another section of the same book, referring me to: GHIRELLI, Michael. "A List of Emigrants from England to America, 1682-1692." (Transcribed from the Original Records at the City of London Record Office. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co. 1968). I finally got in touch with the London Record Office, and they made me a copy. Nice ending to a search. It did prove that Isaac Guille's family changed the spelling of their name to Gill, since the complete family was listed in more than one place. Once with Guille, in London, and with Gill, here in America. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunshine49" <shengirl@verizon.net> To: <vahenric@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [VAHENRIC] Eliz.WORSHAM (dau.of Wm.& Eliz.LITTLEBERRY) 1656Chesterfield, VA-1705 Henrico, VA; md. Richard KENNEN > where do you find this "Lord Mayor's Waiting Book"? > > Nancy > > ------- > Outside our doors and windows there is a gift that is a million gifts > - the gift of Creation. > > > > On Oct 5, 2006, at 10:00 PM, Sue Gill wrote: > >> Hi, >> Do you know if any of your Kennons connected to the Gill family? >> I do have >> this: >> >> 1690, April 1. "Henrico Co., VA. Deeds 1677-1705" by Benjamin >> Weisiger >> III. Page 141. >> p. 362. Richard Kennon was due 8000 acres for importation of a >> list of >> people, including Isa. Gill, John Gill, Stephen Gill, Joseph Gill, >> Peter >> Gill, Anne Gill, and Mary Gill. >> >> This family was actually Isaac Guille, and in 1685 they were in >> London, >> waiting to come over as indentured servants: >> 1685, September 16. Lord Mayor's Waiting Book, 1684-6, Vol. 14, >> Page 404. >> Guille, Isaac, his wife Anna and children Magdalene, John, Peter, >> Stephen, >> and Joseph. All bound to Augustine Boullay in Virginia. >> >> I was just wondering if you knew of any family ties, marriages, etc. >> Thanks. >> Sue >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <bradlara@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <VAHENRIC-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:41 PM >> Subject: [VAHENRIC] Eliz.WORSHAM (dau.of Wm.& Eliz.LITTLEBERRY) >> 1656Chesterfield, VA-1705 Henrico, VA; md. Richard KENNEN >> >> >>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>> >>> Surnames: WORSHAM, LITTLEBERRY, KENNEN >>> Classification: Query >>> >>> Message Board URL: >>> >>> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBC.2ACI/2903 >>> >>> Message Board Post: >>> >>> Seeking connections, additions, corrections, comments regarding the >>> following family: >>> >>> 1-William John WORSHAM >>> +Elizabeth LITTLEBERRY/BURY >>> b: 1623 in England or Henrico County, VA >>> d: Oct 1678 in Bermuda Hundred, Henrico, VA >>> . 2-Elizabeth WORSHAM >>> b: 1656 in Chesterfield, VA >>> d: 1705 in Conjurer's Neck, Henrico, VA >>> . +Doctor Richard KENNEN >>> b: 1650 in Conjurer's Neck, Henrico, VA >>> m: 1673 in , Henrico, VA >>> d: 20 Aug 1696 in , Henrico, VA >>> >>> Laura Koehn >>> bradlara@sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> VAHENRIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAHENRIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

where do you find this "Lord Mayor's Waiting Book"? Nancy ------- Outside our doors and windows there is a gift that is a million gifts - the gift of Creation. On Oct 5, 2006, at 10:00 PM, Sue Gill wrote: > Hi, > Do you know if any of your Kennons connected to the Gill family? > I do have > this: > > 1690, April 1. "Henrico Co., VA. Deeds 1677-1705" by Benjamin > Weisiger > III. Page 141. > p. 362. Richard Kennon was due 8000 acres for importation of a > list of > people, including Isa. Gill, John Gill, Stephen Gill, Joseph Gill, > Peter > Gill, Anne Gill, and Mary Gill. > > This family was actually Isaac Guille, and in 1685 they were in > London, > waiting to come over as indentured servants: > 1685, September 16. Lord Mayor's Waiting Book, 1684-6, Vol. 14, > Page 404. > Guille, Isaac, his wife Anna and children Magdalene, John, Peter, > Stephen, > and Joseph. All bound to Augustine Boullay in Virginia. > > I was just wondering if you knew of any family ties, marriages, etc. > Thanks. > Sue > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bradlara@sbcglobal.net> > To: <VAHENRIC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:41 PM > Subject: [VAHENRIC] Eliz.WORSHAM (dau.of Wm.& Eliz.LITTLEBERRY) > 1656Chesterfield, VA-1705 Henrico, VA; md. Richard KENNEN > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Surnames: WORSHAM, LITTLEBERRY, KENNEN >> Classification: Query >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBC.2ACI/2903 >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Seeking connections, additions, corrections, comments regarding the >> following family: >> >> 1-William John WORSHAM >> +Elizabeth LITTLEBERRY/BURY >> b: 1623 in England or Henrico County, VA >> d: Oct 1678 in Bermuda Hundred, Henrico, VA >> . 2-Elizabeth WORSHAM >> b: 1656 in Chesterfield, VA >> d: 1705 in Conjurer's Neck, Henrico, VA >> . +Doctor Richard KENNEN >> b: 1650 in Conjurer's Neck, Henrico, VA >> m: 1673 in , Henrico, VA >> d: 20 Aug 1696 in , Henrico, VA >> >> Laura Koehn >> bradlara@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VAHENRIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

some of you might want to check out this website, it has loads of information about those obscure legal terms you run across when doing research http://www.genfiles.com/legal/legalterms.htm Nancy ------- The alchemy of a changing life is the only truth. -Rumi

Hi, Do you know if any of your Kennons connected to the Gill family? I do have this: 1690, April 1. "Henrico Co., VA. Deeds 1677-1705" by Benjamin Weisiger III. Page 141. p. 362. Richard Kennon was due 8000 acres for importation of a list of people, including Isa. Gill, John Gill, Stephen Gill, Joseph Gill, Peter Gill, Anne Gill, and Mary Gill. This family was actually Isaac Guille, and in 1685 they were in London, waiting to come over as indentured servants: 1685, September 16. Lord Mayor's Waiting Book, 1684-6, Vol. 14, Page 404. Guille, Isaac, his wife Anna and children Magdalene, John, Peter, Stephen, and Joseph. All bound to Augustine Boullay in Virginia. I was just wondering if you knew of any family ties, marriages, etc. Thanks. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <bradlara@sbcglobal.net> To: <VAHENRIC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: [VAHENRIC] Eliz.WORSHAM (dau.of Wm.& Eliz.LITTLEBERRY) 1656Chesterfield, VA-1705 Henrico, VA; md. Richard KENNEN > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: WORSHAM, LITTLEBERRY, KENNEN > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBC.2ACI/2903 > > Message Board Post: > > Seeking connections, additions, corrections, comments regarding the > following family: > > 1-William John WORSHAM > +Elizabeth LITTLEBERRY/BURY > b: 1623 in England or Henrico County, VA > d: Oct 1678 in Bermuda Hundred, Henrico, VA > . 2-Elizabeth WORSHAM > b: 1656 in Chesterfield, VA > d: 1705 in Conjurer's Neck, Henrico, VA > . +Doctor Richard KENNEN > b: 1650 in Conjurer's Neck, Henrico, VA > m: 1673 in , Henrico, VA > d: 20 Aug 1696 in , Henrico, VA > > Laura Koehn > bradlara@sbcglobal.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAHENRIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Clay, Wilson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBC.2ACI/2905 Message Board Post: I'm trying to find some documentation for the wedding date of 1677 for Charles Clay and Hannah Wilson who married in Henrico County, Virginia. I've seen this claim on the internet but no source for it. Thanks for any help.

ADMINISTRIVIA Hi, I dont know how many of you know that I'm the current list administrator, or list "mom" if you will, of this list. I wanted to let you all know that with the new Mailman system, so far each of the posts on the forums that are "gatewayed" to this list require me to manually give "permission" for each message to go through because the "sender" is whoever posted on the forum, and usually not a member of the maillist. As such, there is a delay between posts on the forum and posts getting to the list. I'm going to be out of town off and on for the remainder of the month, and chances are a bunch are going to get backlogged and go through all at once when I give them the ok. So, if you're following a discussion being gatewayed through, you might want to keep an eye on the forum pages rather than depend on the list to have prompt mailings of the forum posts. Rootsweb promised to fix this after all the maillists were converted to the new system, but this might take a couple weeks. Again, this only affects people that are sending posts to the list that are not subscribed and those posts that are gatewayed from the forums. Automatic subscribing and unsubscribing is not affected by this situation at all. Alice Warner EmbryProject@gmail.com

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Me Nancy? I didn't get an attachment. Nancy ------- Our eyes report to our minds what our minds have told them to see. --Anon. On Oct 4, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Sina28@aol.com wrote: > Nancy, > I have attached the document that I am working from. Maybe you can > tell me > what it is telling me? > > Linda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Nancy, I have attached the document that I am working from. Maybe you can tell me what it is telling me? Linda

Max, Thanks so very much. I have copied and scanned the document so you can have a better look at it. As you will see SAMUEL PARSONS is mentioned. I believe this is my SAMUEL PARSONS. But it is difficult for me to make out who belongs to whom. I'd appreciate it if you would take a look at it and give me your idea. Linda

Thanks so much Alice. You've been more than helpful. Linda

Yes, they were. English, while mostly Germanic in origin also has its celtic and romantic roots, so pretty much anything can come into English. Alice Sunshine49 wrote: > weren't the Tudors of some partial Welsh ancestry? > > There's also "Mc" in Scotland... > > I think in Ireland the Gaelic was originally something like U or Ui- > UiNeil, etc. Well Welsh, Irish, Scottish, and even Norman (Fitz) if > it absorbed from Brittany, were all of a Keltic root. > Quite interesting that ap should be retained in this country, though. > > Nancy > > ------- > I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. > > --Daniel Boone > > > > On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Alice Warner wrote: > > >> It actually spread in usage into England; this is after the time that >> England went into Wales (under either Henry VIII or Edward IV... I >> should know which since I have a class on that in half an hour) and >> made >> Wales follow English Common law. Wales and England, being on the same >> smallish island, had a lot of overlap into the speech. >> >> Like someone just said in another email, it became "a" and "o" such as >> "O'Neill". >> >> It isn't as specific; when I said Wales I was refering to that as the >> origin of where it came from, not as the *recent* origin. >> >> Alice >> >> Sunshine49 wrote: >> >>> this would be quite fascinating if so, as the term 'ap' is Welsh and >>> does mean 'son of.' So why would a Welsh term be used there? Was the >>> person recording it from Wales? >>> >>> Nancy >>> >>> ------- >>> Living is an ongoing imperfection. >>> >>> -Sara Lukinson >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 4, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Kimberly Lemons wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I think it means John is the legitimate son of William who is the >>>> son of >>>> Thomas. >>>> Can someone verify that for me. >>>> Kimberly >>>> >>>> Sina28@aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi everybody, >>>>> I'm trying to decipher a will. Can anybody tell me what >>>>> >>>>> "PARSONS, JOHN. Leg.-son WILLIAM ap THOMAS PARSONS" means? >>>>> >>>>> Any help really appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Linda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >>>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

weren't the Tudors of some partial Welsh ancestry? There's also "Mc" in Scotland... I think in Ireland the Gaelic was originally something like U or Ui- UiNeil, etc. Well Welsh, Irish, Scottish, and even Norman (Fitz) if it absorbed from Brittany, were all of a Keltic root. Quite interesting that ap should be retained in this country, though. Nancy ------- I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. --Daniel Boone On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Alice Warner wrote: > It actually spread in usage into England; this is after the time that > England went into Wales (under either Henry VIII or Edward IV... I > should know which since I have a class on that in half an hour) and > made > Wales follow English Common law. Wales and England, being on the same > smallish island, had a lot of overlap into the speech. > > Like someone just said in another email, it became "a" and "o" such as > "O'Neill". > > It isn't as specific; when I said Wales I was refering to that as the > origin of where it came from, not as the *recent* origin. > > Alice > > Sunshine49 wrote: >> this would be quite fascinating if so, as the term 'ap' is Welsh and >> does mean 'son of.' So why would a Welsh term be used there? Was the >> person recording it from Wales? >> >> Nancy >> >> ------- >> Living is an ongoing imperfection. >> >> -Sara Lukinson >> >> >> >> On Oct 4, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Kimberly Lemons wrote: >> >> >>> I think it means John is the legitimate son of William who is the >>> son of >>> Thomas. >>> Can someone verify that for me. >>> Kimberly >>> >>> Sina28@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi everybody, >>>> I'm trying to decipher a will. Can anybody tell me what >>>> >>>> "PARSONS, JOHN. Leg.-son WILLIAM ap THOMAS PARSONS" means? >>>> >>>> Any help really appreciated. >>>> >>>> Linda >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

It actually spread in usage into England; this is after the time that England went into Wales (under either Henry VIII or Edward IV... I should know which since I have a class on that in half an hour) and made Wales follow English Common law. Wales and England, being on the same smallish island, had a lot of overlap into the speech. Like someone just said in another email, it became "a" and "o" such as "O'Neill". It isn't as specific; when I said Wales I was refering to that as the origin of where it came from, not as the *recent* origin. Alice Sunshine49 wrote: > this would be quite fascinating if so, as the term 'ap' is Welsh and > does mean 'son of.' So why would a Welsh term be used there? Was the > person recording it from Wales? > > Nancy > > ------- > Living is an ongoing imperfection. > > -Sara Lukinson > > > > On Oct 4, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Kimberly Lemons wrote: > > >> I think it means John is the legitimate son of William who is the >> son of >> Thomas. >> Can someone verify that for me. >> Kimberly >> >> Sina28@aol.com wrote: >> >> >>> Hi everybody, >>> I'm trying to decipher a will. Can anybody tell me what >>> >>> "PARSONS, JOHN. Leg.-son WILLIAM ap THOMAS PARSONS" means? >>> >>> Any help really appreciated. >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

this would be quite fascinating if so, as the term 'ap' is Welsh and does mean 'son of.' So why would a Welsh term be used there? Was the person recording it from Wales? Nancy ------- Living is an ongoing imperfection. -Sara Lukinson On Oct 4, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Kimberly Lemons wrote: > I think it means John is the legitimate son of William who is the > son of > Thomas. > Can someone verify that for me. > Kimberly > > Sina28@aol.com wrote: > >> >> Hi everybody, >> I'm trying to decipher a will. Can anybody tell me what >> >> "PARSONS, JOHN. Leg.-son WILLIAM ap THOMAS PARSONS" means? >> >> Any help really appreciated. >> >> Linda >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

In welsh/sw English tradition, xxxx ap yyyy means xxxx is the son of yyyy. xxxx verch yyyy means xxxx is the daughter of yyyy. On another note, fitz originally meant "bastard son of". The Fitzhughs, Fitzalans, etc were bastard (recognized) descendants of nobility that actually often retained titles in their own rights. I would guess that the leg. means legitimate, but could also be a legal title, then son of. Either way, I would assume that John is the son of William, son of Thomas. Alice Warner Kimberly Lemons wrote: > I think it means John is the legitimate son of William who is the son of > Thomas. > Can someone verify that for me. > Kimberly > > Sina28@aol.com wrote: > > >> Hi everybody, >> I'm trying to decipher a will. Can anybody tell me what >> >> "PARSONS, JOHN. Leg.-son WILLIAM ap THOMAS PARSONS" means? >> >> Any help really appreciated. >> >> Linda >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I think it means John is the legitimate son of William who is the son of Thomas. Can someone verify that for me. Kimberly Sina28@aol.com wrote: > >Hi everybody, >I'm trying to decipher a will. Can anybody tell me what > >"PARSONS, JOHN. Leg.-son WILLIAM ap THOMAS PARSONS" means? > >Any help really appreciated. > >Linda > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHENRIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi everybody, I'm trying to decipher a will. Can anybody tell me what "PARSONS, JOHN. Leg.-son WILLIAM ap THOMAS PARSONS" means? Any help really appreciated. Linda

It would be helpful to know the context of your quote. It might be a line from the will, or it may be an abstract of a provision in a will, or perhaps something else. It looks like an abstract. That said, it seems to me that "Leg." may mean legatee. In legalese, and particularly in earlier time, a legatee was "one who takes personal property under a will." Ballentine's Law Dictionary. The same source defines "ap" as follows: A prefix used in certain ancient Welsh surnames, such as Davide ap Thomas (Bibithe's Case, 4 Coke, 43) signifying "son of;" somes times abbreviated "a", as in John a Gaunt, and having the same significance as "o" in certain Irish surnames, as in O'Neill. So, perhaps your quote means John Parsons, son of William Parsons, son of Thomas Parsons, is the beneficiary of personal property under the will in question. If you have details about the context, please contribute them in case a better understanding can be reached. Max --- Sina28@aol.com wrote: > > Hi everybody, > I'm trying to decipher a will. Can anybody tell me > what > > "PARSONS, JOHN. Leg.-son WILLIAM ap THOMAS PARSONS" > means? > > Any help really appreciated. > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to VAHENRIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Does any one doing research in Henrico Co. VA, have any information of the following. I would be more than happy to share what I have on connecting families, land holdings etc. Thomas Wells died leaving a will dated 21 Jan 1695, in which he names his son Thomas and Mary Wells. both children are under 15 years of age. He names his wife as the sole executrix. It is found that her name was Mary. After Thomas' death she marries a Thomas Parker. We are not sure if this Thomas was the husband of Grace who it seem he divorced, as found in Henrico records , or it was his father. You can contact me direct at seamore2@cox.net Gloria Padach Laguna Beach, CA