hdanw mentioned in the latest digest a daughter in the will with last name of Symes there are a couple of really good books on the SYMES families in these burned counties. I saw one at the DAR library in DC and also at the Virginia State library.Maybe going in the back door of one of the children will help find more info on the father. BARB this is not one of my lines was just helping a friend with her Symes researchl