This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grimes(Grymes), Carmack, Jackson, Garrett, Hughes, Joslin (all settled in Tennessee) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1278 Message Board Post: Looking for info on Henry Grimes born approx 1750 in St Pauls Hanover, VA. Married a Catherine (?Gore?). Son, John Grimes, Sr born Jan. 2, 1775 in Washington Cty, VA. Any info appreciated. Thanks!

From some Campbell Descendant in Hanover County that Could help me Trace the Travel route of My Amherst County, Va. Campbell Family From Disembarkation to the Mountain's. According to the Evolution of the Counties of Va. From New Kent in 1654 to Hanover in 1721 to Louisa in 1742 to Albemarle in 1744 to Amherst County, Va, in 1761 I believe that My Campbell's were in the area of New Kent Through Hanover County Then through the Continuing Forming of new Counties that The Campbell Families VERY likely were enroute together & some of the Family remained in the Counties from which the next County was formed, AND I am in hopes that some of Campbell's that in the Former Counties Will have some Family information that was Handed Down AS so many records were destroyed, PLEASE help if you can. THANKS. A T & Leona <atpowelljr@aol.com>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1269.1 Message Board Post: UPDATE: A Gideon Sandidge from Hanover Co., VA purchased land in Goochland Co., VA in 1758. As such, I now have a James Sandidge, a John Sandidge and a Gideon Sandidge in the Goochland/Cumberland area in the mid-1700s, and all were almost certainly related to the John Sandidge (who married Mary Vaughan) who died in New Kent Co., VA in the real early 1700s.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cramer, Earl, Dillard Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1277 Message Board Post: I am looking for information for the following two people: Israel Kaup Cramer b: 1833 PA d: 28 FEB 1911 Old Church, VA his wife: Annie Janet/Jennette (Earl) Cramer b. 1835, d. 1892 Virginia (probaby Hanover County as well) They lived with their daughter Susan and her husband John Dillard I think that the state of VA didn't collect death certs at the time of Israel's death, but I think they did at the time of Anne's death. I am looking for date of death for Annie, possibly a death certificate and obits for both. ANY help would be greatly appreciated and I would swap research time with anyone needing time in the Detroit Michigan area. Thanks a ton! Jessica Leonard jjleonard26@yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Johnson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/283.1.1.2 Message Board Post: I have a John Johnson who purchased land in the Marysville area of Campbell County in the 1780's. Another John Johnson had a grant in 1749, possibly in the same area. I was wondering if either Mary Johnson who married Micajah Davis (the founder of Marysville) or Collins Johnson who married his sister, Elizabeth Davis, are related to these Johnsons or even to each other! I've seen in other posts that Mary was the daughter of David Johnson, of Hanover. Lucy, a daughter of the John Johnson who lived near Marysville, married Collins Bradley, the son of Elizabeth Davis (Johnson) and her second husband, Wm or John Bradley. While Micajah left the area about 1800, many of the Johnsons and related families stayed. Some of the early purchasers of lots in Marysville were sons-in-law of John Johnson. My Johnsons were possibly Quaker in the late 1700's and early 1800's (they married into many Quaker families) but probably not in later years. Do you know more about these Johnson in-laws? It would wonderful if I could make a link! Anne Johnson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Castlen, Timberlake, Goodwin, Cocke, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1185.1.1.2 Message Board Post: I notice in your surname listing the Timberlake's from Hanover Co. Do you have any knowledge of the Col. Richard Timberlake and his wife Lady Frances Harfield Timberlake or but most importantly his daughter Elizabeth Timberlake Castlen? Thanks

TO anyone in HANOVER County, Va. I know that there are Campbell Family Connection in Hanover County, Va. This is a long Drawn out Question? First; My mother was an Amherst County, VA Campbell/ NOW: What I am hoping to learn is When & Where, MY <OUR> Campbell's came into Va. Permit me to explain Why I believe that there could be a Connection. PLEASE Bear with Me; This is as the Counties were Formed; York 1634 Original Shire. Founded as Charles River County, changed to York in 1642. NEW Kent 1654 formed from York County. Records Burned 1865, During Civil WAR. Hanover 1721 Formed from New Kent County. Records were Destroyed in 1865. Louisa 1742 Formed from Hanover County. Albemarle 1744 Formed From Goochland & Louisa Counties. Amherst 1761 Formed from Albemarle County. Nelson 1808 Formed from Amherst County. NOW I know this is long; I do not know when your Campbell Family first Came into Hanover County OR if mine were ever in The area that was Hanover County From 1721 to 1742 When it became Louisa County & is to day Amherst & Nelson Counties. THIS LONG Question is in hopes That I will find Some Connection Between MY Amherst & Nelson Campbell's & your Hanover Campbell's. I RESEARCH, SO; <ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS SOMEONE KNOWS> PLEASE, Now I am asking. THANKS. A. T. Powell <atpowelljr@aol.com>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1189.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have no info on a William Hall. Sorry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hall Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1189.1.1 Message Board Post: Do you have any info on William Hall (he fought in the CW) who lived in Hanover around 1875 - 1900? He had a son named Felix. I am looking for a death date and burial grounds. Thanks

Diane is quite right about additional resources for early Hanover Co. record-searching. If you can access the many volumes [now eight] of Cavaliers and Pioneers, possibly the first three at your local library, you may find many clues about your early Hanover Co. people. (But don't overlook adjoining counties, such as Henrico and Goochland and others clustered around the James River). The index has places, watercourses, paths, etc., as well as personal names. Nell Marion Nugent compiled the first three volumes. The later volumes, published and for sale by the Virginia Genealogical Society in Richmond, were compiled by Dennis Ray Hudgins. The indexes are easier to deal with. Diane also mentions the Hanover Co. road orders which are combined with those of New Kent Co., its parent county. (Now that I think about it, I may never have searched that particular report, although I have for other counties, such as Albemarle. (Look in ALL the Virginia counties, says an expert from Salt Lake City, who charges a bundle to find your ancestors.) These road orders which have been compiled by the Virginia Dept of Transportation are online and searchable, but you have to be patient. Click on the PDF icon, when you finally access the road order screen. The index is at the end of the booklet, so you may want to click on the *end of the report* button at the bottom of the screen. _http://vtrc.virginiadot.org/PUBS.aspx_ (http://vtrc.virginiadot.org/PUBS.aspx) (This website may be changed from time to time--I had to search a good deal to find the new updated link.) Thanks, Diane. How about other suggestions from you researchers who have been looking for ancestors in colonial Hanover Co.? E.W.Wallace

I would like to add that the records in Cavaliers and Pioneers have been of the most value to me - and the Virginia road records! Wonderful! The road records are on-line. Diane Subject: [VAHANOVE] Early Records of Hanover Co., VA - Publications Dear Researcher of Hanover Co., particularly those who do NOT live in Virginia Wouldn't you know that most of the pre-Civil War records of Hanover Co. are missing--reported to have burned in Richmond at the end of the Civil War [or your particular name for that bloody war] in what is called the *Evacuation Fire*? The roots of my father's family are in Hanover county in the 1730s, and I try to find every piece of information I can about that time period in Hanover Co.--including looking at the adjoining counties. A couple of suggestions: A wonderful genealogist/publisher in Missouri many years ago abstracted or transcribed and published the remaining Hanover Co. court records (wills, deeds, etc) of the 1730s. Keep reading Also, she published many abstracts of Louisa Co., VA, which was formed 1742 from Hanover Co., and, fortunately for me--and perhaps you, too--there are records of some Hanover Co. families in those early records of Louisa Co. Therefore, these are almost companion books--Hanover and Louisa Co. records. Furthermore, for genealogical publications, these booklets [paperback] are inexpensive. My copies are filed in my file cabinet rather than in my bookcase, as they need protecting. Here is Mrs. Davis's website-- _http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/_ (http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/) In my local large metropolitan library some years ago, I found a book in which the author had abstracted ALL the Virginia land patents/grants [yes, there is a difference in these terms] for Hanover Co. Nowadays, a researcher does not necessarily need these published records, as these land patent abstracts have been digitized on the Library of Virginia Website. (However, books are still my friend--because they are portable and they are indexed, generally.) Charles P. Blunt, author Land patents and grants of Hanover County, Virginia (1721-1800) / compiled by Charles P. Blunt IV. The library catalog entry indicates it was published in 1980. It is unlikely it is still in print. Perhaps a library or two in Virginia has a copy. But, whatever one does--start with your immediate family--and interview them. Perhaps someone has something stashed away which he/she has not been sharing because NO ONE has ever asked. And it pays to be inquisitive. Had not my aunt been inquisitive about some old letters in a trunk at her grandfather's former home, which trunk she and a cousin had discovered when they were searching for an insurance policy because of a death in the family, we would never KNOW about the colonial Hanover Co. origins of our common-named family. We had to work backwards from a county in Kentucky which was mentioned in an old letter, skip down to Arkansas and up to Illinois, where the grandfather had relatives, skip around in Mississippi, where he operated a tavern for a number of years, etc. Sometimes you have to take a gamble--in this Kentucky county, there is an ancestor who has the first name of my grandfather. Is there a connection? Don't know. Write for the rejected Rev War pension record anyway. And so on. These hunches, which seemed to pay off, got me back to colonial Granville Co., NC, where many early residents had Hanover Co. origins, and so on. (Did your people go to North Carolina? Maybe???) You know how the generations multiply?? So do the pieces of paper which you photocopy and then you have to buy file cabinets, and so on. Best of luck to all you Hanover reseachers!! E.W.Wallace ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/321 - Release Date: 4/21/2006

Chamberlayne's transcription of St. Paul's vestry book has been filmed by the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. Here is the film no. 982197 Item 1 You can borrow the film, for a small fee, for a limited time, from Salt Lake City. Good luck!!! Some of the early Virginia films of original records are some of the first acquired by the Family History Library, and, unfortunately, are on negative film--difficult to photocopy and hard to read. Books generally, however, are NOT on negative film. E.W.Wallace with several Hanover Co. colonial roots

Dear Researcher of Hanover Co., particularly those who do NOT live in Virginia Wouldn't you know that most of the pre-Civil War records of Hanover Co. are missing--reported to have burned in Richmond at the end of the Civil War [or your particular name for that bloody war] in what is called the *Evacuation Fire*? The roots of my father's family are in Hanover county in the 1730s, and I try to find every piece of information I can about that time period in Hanover Co.--including looking at the adjoining counties. A couple of suggestions: A wonderful genealogist/publisher in Missouri many years ago abstracted or transcribed and published the remaining Hanover Co. court records (wills, deeds, etc) of the 1730s. Keep reading Also, she published many abstracts of Louisa Co., VA, which was formed 1742 from Hanover Co., and, fortunately for me--and perhaps you, too--there are records of some Hanover Co. families in those early records of Louisa Co. Therefore, these are almost companion books--Hanover and Louisa Co. records. Furthermore, for genealogical publications, these booklets [paperback] are inexpensive. My copies are filed in my file cabinet rather than in my bookcase, as they need protecting. Here is Mrs. Davis's website-- _http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/_ (http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/) In my local large metropolitan library some years ago, I found a book in which the author had abstracted ALL the Virginia land patents/grants [yes, there is a difference in these terms] for Hanover Co. Nowadays, a researcher does not necessarily need these published records, as these land patent abstracts have been digitized on the Library of Virginia Website. (However, books are still my friend--because they are portable and they are indexed, generally.) Charles P. Blunt, author Land patents and grants of Hanover County, Virginia (1721-1800) / compiled by Charles P. Blunt IV. The library catalog entry indicates it was published in 1980. It is unlikely it is still in print. Perhaps a library or two in Virginia has a copy. But, whatever one does--start with your immediate family--and interview them. Perhaps someone has something stashed away which he/she has not been sharing because NO ONE has ever asked. And it pays to be inquisitive. Had not my aunt been inquisitive about some old letters in a trunk at her grandfather's former home, which trunk she and a cousin had discovered when they were searching for an insurance policy because of a death in the family, we would never KNOW about the colonial Hanover Co. origins of our common-named family. We had to work backwards from a county in Kentucky which was mentioned in an old letter, skip down to Arkansas and up to Illinois, where the grandfather had relatives, skip around in Mississippi, where he operated a tavern for a number of years, etc. Sometimes you have to take a gamble--in this Kentucky county, there is an ancestor who has the first name of my grandfather. Is there a connection? Don't know. Write for the rejected Rev War pension record anyway. And so on. These hunches, which seemed to pay off, got me back to colonial Granville Co., NC, where many early residents had Hanover Co. origins, and so on. (Did your people go to North Carolina? Maybe???) You know how the generations multiply?? So do the pieces of paper which you photocopy and then you have to buy file cabinets, and so on. Best of luck to all you Hanover reseachers!! E.W.Wallace

St. Paul's Vestry book, the one transcribed and edited by Chamberlayne has been filmed by the Family History Library in Salt Lake City Here is the film number 982197 Item 1 If you live near an LDS family history center, you can borrow the film for a limited time, for a small fee, through that center. Also, I see that FH Library has the film of the original vestry book. Of course, published books generally have an index--that is why we search for them first!!!! But, the original--if you can read it--may have JUST the information you need to detect a link with another person. Good luck!!! By the way, when I want to know whether a genealogy book has been published and filmed, I always go to the Family History Library Catalog first. You can do all kinds of searches. _www.familyhistory.org_ (http://www.familyhistory.org) The link to the catalog is on the lower right--make it one of your best friends. E.W.Wallace whose folks were in Hanover in the 1730s, having come from Henrico and then Goochland

Our special collection library has the book written by Rev. Douglas. I did copy some pages but not all. Will look through what I have. The book may be on intra library loan. It will be some time before I go back to the library but when I do will look if your question has not been answered. I live in NM but at this time my husband is receiving treatment and I cannot leave him just yet. Regards, Kathryn

There are two copies of the St. Paul's Parish Vestry book available at the Hanover Branch Library. www.pamunkeylibrary.org Pat

I have a copy - the Webb name is listed 52 times starting on page one which is around 1695-1700. Page one starts with John Webb continuing as Sexton of Norcut for the Upper Church till January next (this means one year) 7 paid at the rate of 400 lbs of tobacco w/cask (tobacco receipts). first names: Elizabeth pg 365 paid for food 11-8-1757, F. Webb pg 551 - 1779, George, John, Julius, Lewis, Robert, Ronert Jr., William. Many entries for John page 1 thru 481 - 1771 yr. The copy I have is softbound reproduction issued by the VA Library. I strongly suggest that you look at it online as opposed to in person at the copy of an original (in script). The forward in the copy I have explains how difficult the text was to read & also disjointed. It also explains more about the parish. For those who are out there: these records were kept because they had to & when they got messy or messed up the next clerk RECOPIED them by hand. In St. Paul's Parish, only the actual payments & appointments & processioning (walking land) are available as the birth & deaths book was not kept up & is now lost. This fact is noted also right in the vestry book as a complaint of the vestry against one of their clerks. So we do not have a very important part of the historical data - just a mention here & there of a person IF They Had to Pay them, or if they required their services. Once in a while you can read between the lines & notice that someone is getting paid because they took care of an ill person in their home or housed a convicted person or a poor person or child. So it is really a historical collection of Account Payable :) mostly. Dianne - Slash Church 1729 ----- Original Message ----- From: <hfranklin@ec.rr.com> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:11 AM Subject: [VAHANOVE] Re: St. Paul's Parish, Hanover Co. VA > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Webb > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1276.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Thanks so much! I'll make the trip since this small town doesn't have one. > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List > to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1276.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Do let me know if you find what you are looking for. I will be so pleased for you. Lynda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Webb Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1276.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks so much! I'll make the trip since this small town doesn't have one.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1276.1 Message Board Post: The St. Paul's Vestry Book from the late 1700's to the early 1800's is available on microfilm from Salt Lake City (LDS Church) and can been seen at any of their Family History Centers. You have to order and pay for the rental; it is a long series of pages written in 18c. cursive. I just finished going thru it at our local FHC and it took about 12 hours or more. If I had seen your post before I checked the Vestry Book I would have looked for Webbs. Since I was looking for other names, I am not sure but believe that there were Webbs mentioned. It might be worth while, if you are at a brick wall, to check this out.