This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1308 Message Board Post: Looking for info about Richard Clough who married Anne Poindexter in New Kent Co. Va. They had a daughter Rebecca who was born in Hanover Co. and married Joseph Eggleston. Anything will be appreciated.

Thank you. I love that American Memory site. Although I use it a lot, I had never seen that map you refer to before. Thanks. --Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: <PWSTUBBS99@aol.com> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] Phillips, 17?? to 1795 > http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/browse/ > > This is a Library of Congress site. While browsing through a civil war > map > on this site lasst night I ran across the cite of two Phillips, one was > Phillips mill. They are not near Louisa, they are around what we now know > as the > Rt.301 area between Peaks and the railroad track that cross 301. > > To locate this map use the link above and then click on civil war maps, > then > search Hanover, Va. This map is the 9th map on the list. It has > landowners > listed but you have to zoom in to make any sense of it. The area of these > Phillips is in the middle of the map. > > Pat > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest > List > to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/browse/ This is a Library of Congress site. While browsing through a civil war map on this site lasst night I ran across the cite of two Phillips, one was Phillips mill. They are not near Louisa, they are around what we now know as the Rt.301 area between Peaks and the railroad track that cross 301. To locate this map use the link above and then click on civil war maps, then search Hanover, Va. This map is the 9th map on the list. It has landowners listed but you have to zoom in to make any sense of it. The area of these Phillips is in the middle of the map. Pat

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1307 Message Board Post: Hanover County Board: My name is Rex Phillips and I am involved in a Phillips DNA project which is located at this link: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/PhillipsWorldwide/. We are attempting to find documented male descendants of all the original male Phillips immigrants to the New World and encourage them to join the Phillips Worldwide DNA project. DNA genealogical studies work very successfully on straight line male descendants, so their DNA is a precious commodity. The DNA test is painless and only involves swabbing the inside of the cheek with a special brush or scraper. The lab mails a kit to the participant and then the participant mails the kit back to the lab. The kit is assigned a number and the name of the participant is never published, thereby assuring privacy and confidentiality. Also, the lab only looks at certain markers on the male Y-chromosome, so this test does not identify any medical problems or other sensitive information. The DNA test is not free, but the participant gets a break with regard to the cost of the test if he participates in the Phillips Worldwide DNA project. In addition, financial aid may be available if the candidate belongs to an especially representative or large Phillips line and he has excellent documentation. The following Phillips men appear on the 1790 reconstructed census for Hanover County, Virginia : Nathan Philips (Estate); George Phillips; John Phillips; Martin Phillips and Thomas Phillips. If you are a straight line male Phillips descendant of one of these men and you are willing to join the DNA project, or if you know someone who is a straight line male descendant of one of these men, please contact me at r.phillips0288@sbcglobal.net or Shannon Phillips at PHILLIPSDNAPROJ@AOL.COM. Shannon is the volunteer project administrator for the Phillips Worldwide DNA project. By the way, we are all volunteers and are not being compensated in any way to pursue this project. Thank you for taking the time to read this message and we look forward to hearing from you. I hope and believe that this new scientific tool is going to solve many genealogy puzzles and tear down many brick walls. Sincerely, Rex Phillips (desc. of Joseph Phillips d. 1777 Brunswick Co.)

Good advice. I would also advise that researchers may want to look at Georgia and South Carolina records. After the Revolution, when the Georgia frontier opened up, many Virginia planters moved to the Georgia piedmont uplands along the Savannah and Broad rivers. They took many local place names with them such as Petersburg and Augusta. Bruce Terrell Hdanw@aol.com wrote: >Sally Phillips wrote, > >The latest post urging us to use dates caught my attention because it >mentioned Hanoverians moving to Louisa. > >I am seeking the father of John Phillips who probably or possibly was born >near Pug Swamp in Hanover County and died in Louisa in 1795. His father was >probably or possibly George Phillips who patented 400 acres at Pug Swamp in >1724. > >Given the state of Hanover's records, I don't know where to start looking. >Does anyone have any suggestions? > >My response: > >I highly recommend that anyone searching for early people in Virginia begin >their searches with the land patents. Not everyone got land, but as one >Southern genealogist said, Cavaliers and Pioneers [now eight volumes] is a good >people-finder [for Virginians and Virginians who went thataway!!!] Many of >the early volumes can be found widely in public libraries. The last four >volumes were published in the last decade or so by the Virginia Genealogical >Society, Richmond, VA. (They have a web page.) > >Nowadays, one does not need all the volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers, >unless, like me, you are a collector of useful-to-me books. The Library of >Virginia website under Land Records lists in inverse chronological order patents >for persons of certain names. (Of course, all my surnames are mostly common >ones). I never remember the URL for the Library of Virginia so I use >google.com and then find the most likely URL which is listed to begin my search for >certain males [a few females got land patents, but they are few and far >between.] > >In the beginning, Hanover was a large county, but it kept dividing and thus >you may find your people in a *progeny* county [look that up!]. I have found >many colonial Hanover Co. people in the Louisa Co. records. Do not overlook >deeds and court records in adjoining counties. Also tax lists are good. > >A favorite author of Hanover Co. records of ca 1730-1735 and of several >Louisa Co. record books--deeds, guardianship, Fredericksville Parish, etc.--is >Mrs. Rosalie Edith Davis who lives in Manchester, MO. Her books were compiled >several decades ago, but she is still selling them, and they are quite >inexpensive, I think. Her website: > >_http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/_ >(http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/) > >Before you order her books, however, you probably should establish that your >people really were in that area. Later, I believe Albemarle Co. was formed >from Louisa Co. > >By messing about with google.com I managed to come up with a website which >indexes some deeds of Louisa Co. > >_http://www.trevilians.com/deeds/deedix41.htm#top_ >(http://www.trevilians.com/deeds/deedix41.htm#top) > >To find out more about Louisa Co. genealogical info, remove some of the >words after *com*. > >I was advised LONG ago that if I were researching in Virginia, I should >research ALL the counties. I thought the female lecturer--a >genealogist/lecturer/PhD--was nuts, but since so many of my paternal lines had Virginia origins, >I have found the lady was right!!! Search ALL of them. Folks wore out their >land with tobacco. Also, by law the eldest son inherited the land. Where >do you think the younger males went? > >I am amazed in studying early Granville Co., NC records, however, that many >of the early settlers in that then-large county were of Hanover Co. We >genealogists have to expand our horizons. > >E.W.Wallace > > > > > > >==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== >If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send only the word >UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List >to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Yes, I agree. Thanks to E. W. Wallace for the thoughtful response. Another question -- Is there a book on St. Martin's Parish comparable to the books on St. Peters and St. Paul's? Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: <EMAMAMAX@aol.com> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:05 AM Subject: [VAHANOVE] Looking for Hanover Co VA folks > E. W. Wallace's response to the query about Hanover County research was > great! > > I've been fiddling around for some time with Hanover County research, and > apparently I've been in the right church but the wrong pew! > > Thanks for all the useful research tips. > > Beth (Pettus) Maxwell > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

E. W. Wallace's response to the query about Hanover County research was great! I've been fiddling around for some time with Hanover County research, and apparently I've been in the right church but the wrong pew! Thanks for all the useful research tips. Beth (Pettus) Maxwell

Sally Phillips wrote, The latest post urging us to use dates caught my attention because it mentioned Hanoverians moving to Louisa. I am seeking the father of John Phillips who probably or possibly was born near Pug Swamp in Hanover County and died in Louisa in 1795. His father was probably or possibly George Phillips who patented 400 acres at Pug Swamp in 1724. Given the state of Hanover's records, I don't know where to start looking. Does anyone have any suggestions? My response: I highly recommend that anyone searching for early people in Virginia begin their searches with the land patents. Not everyone got land, but as one Southern genealogist said, Cavaliers and Pioneers [now eight volumes] is a good people-finder [for Virginians and Virginians who went thataway!!!] Many of the early volumes can be found widely in public libraries. The last four volumes were published in the last decade or so by the Virginia Genealogical Society, Richmond, VA. (They have a web page.) Nowadays, one does not need all the volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers, unless, like me, you are a collector of useful-to-me books. The Library of Virginia website under Land Records lists in inverse chronological order patents for persons of certain names. (Of course, all my surnames are mostly common ones). I never remember the URL for the Library of Virginia so I use google.com and then find the most likely URL which is listed to begin my search for certain males [a few females got land patents, but they are few and far between.] In the beginning, Hanover was a large county, but it kept dividing and thus you may find your people in a *progeny* county [look that up!]. I have found many colonial Hanover Co. people in the Louisa Co. records. Do not overlook deeds and court records in adjoining counties. Also tax lists are good. A favorite author of Hanover Co. records of ca 1730-1735 and of several Louisa Co. record books--deeds, guardianship, Fredericksville Parish, etc.--is Mrs. Rosalie Edith Davis who lives in Manchester, MO. Her books were compiled several decades ago, but she is still selling them, and they are quite inexpensive, I think. Her website: _http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/_ (http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/) Before you order her books, however, you probably should establish that your people really were in that area. Later, I believe Albemarle Co. was formed from Louisa Co. By messing about with google.com I managed to come up with a website which indexes some deeds of Louisa Co. _http://www.trevilians.com/deeds/deedix41.htm#top_ (http://www.trevilians.com/deeds/deedix41.htm#top) To find out more about Louisa Co. genealogical info, remove some of the words after *com*. I was advised LONG ago that if I were researching in Virginia, I should research ALL the counties. I thought the female lecturer--a genealogist/lecturer/PhD--was nuts, but since so many of my paternal lines had Virginia origins, I have found the lady was right!!! Search ALL of them. Folks wore out their land with tobacco. Also, by law the eldest son inherited the land. Where do you think the younger males went? I am amazed in studying early Granville Co., NC records, however, that many of the early settlers in that then-large county were of Hanover Co. We genealogists have to expand our horizons. E.W.Wallace

Pug Swamp in Hanover County is on the southwest side of the North Anna River just about where Route 738 crosses. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ozzie5586@aol.com> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] Phillips, 17?? to 1795 > Never heard of Pug Swamp in Hanover County. > > Could it have been a place called "Rug Swamp?" This was an old Page family > place just beyond Montpelier on route 33 just before entering Louisa > County. > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

As an outsider to this problem and reading what you write below - these could easily be two different ladies. Edwards is not an unusual surname and the possibility of two William Edwards occurring is also high. There are enough differences in the two records to suggest two different Ms. Edwards's. If she was remarrying in 1881, she would be called Elizabeth E. Hall, not Edwards. << Deborah, Good to hear from you again. The reason I found it curious is that in the 1860 census, she is listed as Mary E C Edwards, 4, and in 1870 as Mary E. 13. The marriage listing for Valentine is: Hanover County Marriage Register, Nov. 24,1880 Valentine D. Hall, 23, widowed, m. Mary E. Edwards, 23, single, d/o William Edwards, Rev. Heugh Davis Roy. For Silas Askew, it is: Hanover County Marriage Register, Dec 22, 1881 (License Nov 16, 1881) Silas Askew, farmer, widowed, 40, son of Robert & Nancy Askew, married Elizabeth E. Edwards, single, 24, daughter of Wiliam & Lucinda Edwards, Rev. B. M. Buckner. Both marriage listings are the perfect age and the correct father's name. The minister is different. I also have six, not five children listed for Silas Askew and Mary. If you send your number to my email, I can call you and figure out the discrepancy. >>

Never heard of Pug Swamp in Hanover County. Could it have been a place called "Rug Swamp?" This was an old Page family place just beyond Montpelier on route 33 just before entering Louisa County.

The latest post urging us to use dates caught my attention because it mentioned Hanoverians moving to Louisa. I am seeking the father of John Phillips who probably or possibly was born near Pug Swamp in Hanover County and died in Louisa in 1795. His father was probably or possibly George Phillips who patented 400 acres at Pug Swamp in 1724. Given the state of Hanover's records, I don't know where to start looking. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you. Sally Phillips

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1306 Message Board Post: We find that the John Gardner our family has thought of for generations is not, according to DAR rep., the right one. Is there a John Gardner who was born abt 1750, fought in the Revolution, married Violet Porter that you have buried in Hanover Co.?

Persons who post queries might get some answers if they would post some dates for the ancestors whom they are researching. I am interested in early colonials of Hanover Co., many of whom are found later in Louisa Co. records. But my interest stops after the Revolution. Many of my persons with Hanover roots went to North Carolina or to Kentucky, beginning in the 1740s to NC. I might help with queries, but lack of dates causes me to delete messages almost instantly. A word to the wise. E.W.Wallace

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1305 Message Board Post: Searching for the parents of Norville Cross, wife of George Jefferson Smith, who lived in Hanover County not far from Peaks. Anyone with information may contact me directly at dncul36@comcast.net. Help is always appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1304 Message Board Post: I am looking for the parents of Otha Smith, who lived at Peaks in Hanover County with wife Myrtle Priddy. Anyone with information to share may contact me directly at dncul36@comcast.net. Help is greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Edwards, Hall, Askew Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1298.1.1 Message Board Post: Deborah, Good to hear from you again. The reason I found it curious is that in the 1860 census, she is listed as Mary E C Edwards, 4, and in 1870 as Mary E. 13. The marriage listing for Valentine is: Hanover County Marriage Register, Nov. 24,1880 Valentine D. Hall, 23, widowed, m. Mary E. Edwards, 23, single, d/o William Edwards, Rev. Heugh Davis Roy. For Silas Askew, it is: Hanover County Marriage Register, Dec 22, 1881 (License Nov 16, 1881) Silas Askew, farmer, widowed, 40, son of Robert & Nancy Askew, married Elizabeth E. Edwards, single, 24, daughter of Wiliam & Lucinda Edwards, Rev. B. M. Buckner. Both marriage listings are the perfect age and the correct father's name. The minister is different. I also have six, not five children listed for Silas Askew and Mary. If you send your number to my email, I can call you and figure out the discrepancy.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Williams, Keeling, Jouett, Hughes) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/833.1.1.2 Message Board Post: You may have found your answers by now but thought I would respond anyway. I have a sketch of the Studley Plantation built by John Williams (born 1-26-1678in Llangollen and died 1735) of Wales and his wife Mary Keeling(born 9-26-1684). You can find documentation in the OLD Appleton's Cyclopedia, 1888 along with the sketch. John came to VA in 1690 from Wales (a wealthy Welshman) settleing for a short time at Queens Creek in York County before coming to Hanover to build Studley. The date of Studley shows circa 1700-1712. If you need a copy of the sketch just e-mail me and I will sent it to you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/871.2 Message Board Post: I am also a descendent of Thomas Jefferson Woodson and have the information in which you are interested. It's been so long though you have probably found it. Please contact me so we can compare notes. Dixie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Vass, Davis, Gant, Haley, West, Mead... Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1296.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Deborah, Thank you so much for your reply. I am most interested in knowing about "Sadie J. West" , daughter of Robert "Beadles" West that you mentioned because she was the second wife of my grandfather, Earl Samuel Vass, of Elmont, Hanover Co., Va.. Now given that she married my grandfather when she was 20 years old, she *may* have had children with him. I might have aunts and uncles out there that I've never met. I've got to admit, I'm very intrigued by the thought. Please continue :-)