This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1326 Message Board Post: Could anyone please suggest a way to find wills from Hanover Co VA circa 1860? I am looking for the wills of my ggg grandparents William Miller & Lucy Ann (Woodson) Miller. They are listed in the 1860 census as an elderly couple in Hanover co VA, and I know they both died 1860-1861. Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated. Betty T

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1325 Message Board Post: Seeking information on Joseph Christian Parkinson who married Ann Elizabeth Quarles in 1842 at St. John's Church in Henrico county. He was from Hanover County. I suspect that he is a son of a James Parkinson. I suspect that she is a daughter of a John Quarles and wife Anna. Any info, greatly appreciated. Jessie Hagan Louisville, KY

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stanley-Jones Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1324 Message Board Post: Abigail Stanley Married Joshua Jones abt. 1789. I would like names of their children, birth dates, death dates, anything would help. Thank you

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1026.2 Message Board Post: Sandra, I saw your posting. Have you found what you needed from Mt. Olivet Baptist Church? We have a two vol. book on Church Cemeteries of Hanover County, Virginia. Let me know if you may be interested. Eugene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VBC.2ACI/1323 Message Board Post: Paul, I saw your 12/23/2002 message asking for information. What inforamtion do you need? If you are only interested in a few names I may be able to help. Otherwise I have a book that is available for sale. Two Vol. book. It contains information on all of the Church Cemeteries of Hanover County, Virginia. Send me an E-mail at LAtki86459@aol.com. Eugene

Mr. Wallace - I would be interested in the books if I knew that any of my family was listed... particularly John or Thomas Starke. Thanks for the explanation - I have been keeping all of them, but I think I understand it now... Where did the courts and road orders come into this? Or did the court just allow the parish to handle the processioning while the court handled the roads? I find the Virginia road books most enlightening... wish that other states did the same! Diane Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:18 AM Subject: [VAHANOVE] Vestry Books,Fredericksville Parish Covering Parts of Louisa Co & Albemarle Co Although few records of colonial Hanover Co. still exist, Louisa Co., VA was formed 1742 from Hanover Co. (Goochland Co. adjoined Hanover co. on the South.) At the same time the General Assembly passed an act to form Fredericksville Parish from St. Martin's Parish of Hanover Co. Both acts concerning the formation of these two entities were to be effective 1 December 1742. Later part of Louisa Co. became Albemarle Co. Fredericksville Parish boundaries changed several times in ensuing years. Therefore, in the records of Louisa Co. and of the records of Fredericksville Parish, one may find the names of persons formerly of Hanover Co. or persons who later appear in Albemarle Co. records. (Remember, our ancestors may not have moved but the boundaries changed. Other times, they indeed were on the move.) Mrs. Rosalie Edith Davis of Manchester, MO. has compiled two books [soft cover and relatively inexpensive] of Fredericksville Parish--Vol. I and Vol. 2 and several books of records of Louisa Co. She has also compiled one small book about the remaining colonial Hanover Co. records, but not including the land patents, which one can locate on the Library of Virginia website--under Land Records. One of her books--Vol II of Fredericksville Parish, has to do with processioning. Even if one has no relatives in any of the above-named counties, reading parts of these books helps one understand the importance of the vestry in determining the governance of the area. Mrs. Davis writes, partly, in her preface of Vol. 2 Processioning was a system of marking and renewing property boundary lines, ordered by the court every four years and conducted by the vestry, the governing body of the church. The vestry divided the county into precincts and appointed processioners, men who were freeholders, and, for convenience, whose land lay within the precinct. The processioners's duty was to meet with each land owner, or his representative, and go around the bounds of his land, noting any disputes over the lines between the land owners. The processioners made their return to the vestry in writing, which was certified to the county court. Precinct boundares are usually not given in the returns, but can be found in Volume I of the vestry book." I can furnish the webpage address of Mrs. Davis if you are interested in acquiring any of her well-designed books--indexed and generally with maps, some with creeks and rivers, most important in land records of colonial Virginia. And the indexes are very good. E.W.Wallace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHANOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.23/513 - Release Date: 11/2/2006

Although few records of colonial Hanover Co. still exist, Louisa Co., VA was formed 1742 from Hanover Co. (Goochland Co. adjoined Hanover co. on the South.) At the same time the General Assembly passed an act to form Fredericksville Parish from St. Martin's Parish of Hanover Co. Both acts concerning the formation of these two entities were to be effective 1 December 1742. Later part of Louisa Co. became Albemarle Co. Fredericksville Parish boundaries changed several times in ensuing years. Therefore, in the records of Louisa Co. and of the records of Fredericksville Parish, one may find the names of persons formerly of Hanover Co. or persons who later appear in Albemarle Co. records. (Remember, our ancestors may not have moved but the boundaries changed. Other times, they indeed were on the move.) Mrs. Rosalie Edith Davis of Manchester, MO. has compiled two books [soft cover and relatively inexpensive] of Fredericksville Parish--Vol. I and Vol. 2 and several books of records of Louisa Co. She has also compiled one small book about the remaining colonial Hanover Co. records, but not including the land patents, which one can locate on the Library of Virginia website--under Land Records. One of her books--Vol II of Fredericksville Parish, has to do with processioning. Even if one has no relatives in any of the above-named counties, reading parts of these books helps one understand the importance of the vestry in determining the governance of the area. Mrs. Davis writes, partly, in her preface of Vol. 2 Processioning was a system of marking and renewing property boundary lines, ordered by the court every four years and conducted by the vestry, the governing body of the church. The vestry divided the county into precincts and appointed processioners, men who were freeholders, and, for convenience, whose land lay within the precinct. The processioners's duty was to meet with each land owner, or his representative, and go around the bounds of his land, noting any disputes over the lines between the land owners. The processioners made their return to the vestry in writing, which was certified to the county court. Precinct boundares are usually not given in the returns, but can be found in Volume I of the vestry book." I can furnish the webpage address of Mrs. Davis if you are interested in acquiring any of her well-designed books--indexed and generally with maps, some with creeks and rivers, most important in land records of colonial Virginia. And the indexes are very good. E.W.Wallace

Thank you very much - I thought that was probably what it meant - that the church vestry were basically the 'law' - and made sure that everyone paid their fair taxes, that widows and orphans were not left to starve, etc. It is very dull reading, but filled with genealogy data! After I did a search on Ancestry for the book, I came up with a huge number of hits and then found that my ancestor was on the vestry, thus he is mentioned every time it met! or almost every time - and then his son takes up where he left off. Thanks again... this and the road books have answered a lot of my questions. Diane << What would a vestry have to do with this? >> Before the Revolution, there was not yet separation of church and state in Virginia. The Anglican church was the official state church and as such had many responsibilities we now associate with civil government, such as taxation, care of the poor and sick, guardianship of orphans, road maintenance, etc. The Vestry was a group of church leaders [men], chosen for life or until resignation, which administered all this civil business in addition to the purely church business [paying clergy, building churches, maintaining the glebe [the main church property in the parish] etc]. Indeed, the parish was, I think, a far more important governing entity in the everyday lives of people then than was the county. Does this help? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHANOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.21/511 - Release Date: 11/1/2006

That is not really what it was about but close. The definition is: A survey and inspection of boundaries formerly performed in some of the American colonies by the local authorities. It was analogous in part to the English perambulation (q.v.) and was superceded by the practice of accurate surveying and recording. [Black's Law Dictionary] The Vestry of the Parish was the "local authorities", and the processioning was a civic duty necessary to have property lines that each party on each side of the line could and did agree on. So a 3rd party and sometimes a 4th was assigned to "procession" a certain line, but they had to have the landowners on both sides of the line with them when they did the processioning. Exceptions were made for those who were infirm, and could not participate in the processioning of their lines. v/r, Beverly Alexander Culpeper, VA I hear ethereal voices, persuasive, soft and still Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will? alexlary@crosslink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane S" <dsanfilippo303@adelphia.net> To: <vahanove@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] Vestry Book info? > What would a vestry have to do with this? This phrase is throughout the > vestry book from St. Paul's in Hanover, and I saw where one party would > not allow this... > Thanks > Diane > > > My understanding was that processioning was a way to indicate the size > and > location of the land so it could be taxed. > After the Civil War records were burned, in 1867, Hanover County > attempted to > procession land by getting each landowner to write the acreage he owned > as > well as its location so the land could be taxed. I have read some of > these at > the Page Library in Montpelier Some are rather precise and others are > very > vague. > Hope theis helps > > L. Gott ggottcha@aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAHANOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.20/508 - Release Date: > 10/31/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAHANOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

<< What would a vestry have to do with this? >> Before the Revolution, there was not yet separation of church and state in Virginia. The Anglican church was the official state church and as such had many responsibilities we now associate with civil government, such as taxation, care of the poor and sick, guardianship of orphans, road maintenance, etc. The Vestry was a group of church leaders [men], chosen for life or until resignation, which administered all this civil business in addition to the purely church business [paying clergy, building churches, maintaining the glebe [the main church property in the parish] etc]. Indeed, the parish was, I think, a far more important governing entity in the everyday lives of people then than was the county. Does this help?

What would a vestry have to do with this? This phrase is throughout the vestry book from St. Paul's in Hanover, and I saw where one party would not allow this... Thanks Diane My understanding was that processioning was a way to indicate the size and location of the land so it could be taxed. After the Civil War records were burned, in 1867, Hanover County attempted to procession land by getting each landowner to write the acreage he owned as well as its location so the land could be taxed. I have read some of these at the Page Library in Montpelier Some are rather precise and others are very vague. Hope theis helps L. Gott ggottcha@aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHANOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.20/508 - Release Date: 10/31/2006

My understanding was that processioning was a way to indicate the size and location of the land so it could be taxed. After the Civil War records were burned, in 1867, Hanover County attempted to procession land by getting each landowner to write the acreage he owned as well as its location so the land could be taxed. I have read some of these at the Page Library in Montpelier Some are rather precise and others are very vague. Hope theis helps L. Gott ggottcha@aol.com

The entire vestry book from St. Paul' Parish is on-line at Ancestry.com: The Vestry Book of St. Paul's Parish Hanover County, Virginia 1706 - 1786 transcribed and edited by C. G. Chamberlayne There are a lot of lending library marks in the book and one says State Library of Utah... I saved the pages with my ancestor's name, John Starke, since he was on the vestry from the conception of the parish... Would someone please tell me what 'processioning lands' mean? I know I knew at one time... but that old demon age has blocked the memory! ;-( Thanks, Diane This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Waller, Weatherford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1322 Message Board Post: I'm researching Susanna WALLER who was married to William WEATHERFORD in 1699 in New Kent County, Virginia. I've seen a reference to Susanna's receiving "aid from the vestry in Hanover, Virginia." The researcher notes that "it [I'm assuming the Vestry record] stated that Susanna and William had the children John, William, Major and Lucy." I do not know if this would be St. Paul's Parish, St. Martin's Parish or another Parish in Hanover County. If Susanna was receving any type of aid, I can only imagine it was after she was widowed in 1756 & before she died in Lunenburg County in 1758. She left a will in Lunenburg County in which she left all her worldy goods (clothing and 6 pieces of pewter dishes) to her daughter, Lucy. Can anyone provide assistance with these Parish records in regards to my Susanna Waller Weatherford? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAHANOVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006

Diane asks whether there are road orders for colonial North Carolina (and perhaps post-Revolution) as there are for Virginia. That is an interesting question, and, were it so, they would be most helpful in helping to locate people.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Waller, Weatherford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1322 Message Board Post: I'm researching Susanna WALLER who was married to William WEATHERFORD in 1699 in New Kent County, Virginia. I've seen a reference to Susanna's receiving "aid from the vestry in Hanover, Virginia." The researcher notes that "it [I'm assuming the Vestry record] stated that Susanna and William had the children John, William, Major and Lucy." I do not know if this would be St. Paul's Parish, St. Martin's Parish or another Parish in Hanover County. If Susanna was receving any type of aid, I can only imagine it was after she was widowed in 1756 & before she died in Lunenburg County in 1758. She left a will in Lunenburg County in which she left all her worldy goods (clothing and 6 pieces of pewter dishes) to her daughter, Lucy. Can anyone provide assistance with these Parish records in regards to my Susanna Waller Weatherford?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Simeon Ford/Eli G. Ford/ Eli Monroe Ford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/215.2 Message Board Post: Bill, would like to correspond with you on the Simeon Ford, Eli G. Ford and Eli Monroe Ford's. My e-mail addresss is renmfrench@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, Marie French.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Simeon Ford/Eli G. Ford/ Eli Monroe Ford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/526.533.1 Message Board Post: Elizabeth, would like to correspond with you in reguards to Simeon Ford. I am a drect descendant of Eli G Ford and his son Eli Monroe Ford. You may e-mail me at renmfrench@sbcgloal.net. Thanks. Marie French

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Simeon Ford/Eli G. Ford/ Eli Monroe Ford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/215.1.1 Message Board Post: Gary, I am interested in any information that you have on Simeon and Winnfred Ford. As I am a descendant of Eli G Ford and his son Eli Monroe Ford. Please reply by e-mail to renmfrench@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, Marie French.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Simeon Ford/Eli G. Ford/ Eli Monroe Ford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/526.534 Message Board Post: I am a descendant of Simeon Ford thru Eli G Ford and his son Eli Monroe Ford. I would like to corespond thru e-mail with you on these families. My e-mail address is renmfrench@sbcglobal.net Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Simeon Ford/Eli G. Ford/ Eli Monroe Ford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1321 Message Board Post: As I appear to be a descendant of Simeon Ford through Eli G Ford. Would like to correspond with you. You can contact me by e-mail at renmfrench@sbcglobal.net. My great grandfather was Eli Monroe Ford.