[email protected] wrote: << One has to wonder how you can buy/sell property that was never owned by anyone but the family themselves. Just heartbreaking. >> Imminent domain, perhaps? That's how they do it around here.

Martha, You are SO right. It is very disappointing to come so far & then find that where your ancestors were once resting in peace is now someone's home or a road or a shopping center. It's just so heartbreaking. That's why the laws in VA really need to be changed. As it stands now, the property owner can basically "have his/her way" with the property. What is unusual in this case...the graveyards were never sold. One has to wonder how you can buy/sell property that was never owned by anyone but the family themselves. Just heartbreaking. Sheri ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:22 PM Subject: [VAHANOVE] Cemetery Destruction > Sheri, > I have been following the story of the Sydnor Cemetery closely, as I have > wondered if there were members of the White family buried there as well. I > believe I am a descendant of Barrett White, but cannot prove it. I have > proved I am a descendant of James White who may have been a son of Barrett. > James' son, Moses, owned property near Immanuel Episcopal Church which is now > owned by Cary Hall. Last summer my brother and I visited Mr. Hall's farm and > he told us we could go back to the mill pond which is about 1 1/2 miles off > the road. He said there was a cemetery there at one time, but he "pushed it > over" and began farming on it some years ago. There was no trace of the > cemetery. It really is sad to trace your roots back this far and then find > the cemetery no longer exists. I am sure this is a common occurrence and > will happen more often as new subdivisions are built. > Martha Rice > In Western Hanover > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Laura, Which cemetery is being moved in Richmond, VA for the sub-division? Theresa Toney Willson Richmond, VA Researching the Family names of: ANGEVINE - New York and Virginia; BARR - Henrico Co., VA, Scotland; CONWAY - Henrico Co., VA; EDWARDS - Hanover, Louisa Co., VA; HALL - Hanover, Louisa Co., VA; LOWRY - Goochland, Hanover, Louisa Co's., VA; LUCK - Hanover, Louisa Co., VA; KIDD - Fluvanna Co., VA; KISER - Henrico Co., VA, Germany; MAHANES - Goochland, Hanover, Louisa Co., VA; MULWEE - Lee Co., VA; SEAY - Goochland, Fluvannia, Louisa Co., VA; SLONAKER - WVA, VA; STANLEY - Hanover Co., VA; STINSON - Buckingham, Cumberland Co., VA; TONEY - Buckingham Co., VA; WILLSON - Hartfort, CT;

Gertrude, This is fun to read. Sad too, in Richmond, Va. they are moving a cemetery to make room for a subdivision. To my surprise, there is a connection to one of my lines. Barrett White and Elizabeth Starke are my ancestor's, their daughter Sallie was my ancestor Fanny White's sister. Fanny married Rev. John Penney in 1785 and moved to Anderson, Co. Ky. Laura

Sheri, I have been following the story of the Sydnor Cemetery closely, as I have wondered if there were members of the White family buried there as well. I believe I am a descendant of Barrett White, but cannot prove it. I have proved I am a descendant of James White who may have been a son of Barrett. James' son, Moses, owned property near Immanuel Episcopal Church which is now owned by Cary Hall. Last summer my brother and I visited Mr. Hall's farm and he told us we could go back to the mill pond which is about 1 1/2 miles off the road. He said there was a cemetery there at one time, but he "pushed it over" and began farming on it some years ago. There was no trace of the cemetery. It really is sad to trace your roots back this far and then find the cemetery no longer exists. I am sure this is a common occurrence and will happen more often as new subdivisions are built. Martha Rice In Western Hanover

I recently discovered in the 1910 census two people listed living in the home of my grandparents, Robert R. Wright and Henrietta Gibson Wright of Mechanicsville. Nephew: William Anderson age 18 born in Virginia Niece: Margaret Morsden age 15 born in Virginia. Both names are not familiar to living family members and I could not find them in any other listings. My hope is someone on list will have some info on these two that will get me started. Robert R and Henrietta lived near Mechanicsville just past Barr's Store.

Hello all-- I am forwarding this to you more for FYI reasons only. A group of concerned Hanover residents, myself included, have been working on this diligently and have located next of kin of the Sydnors, written to several groups including local and state officials/authorities, news & media forums, genealogists, heritage/historical groups, etc. You may find the information at the website mentioned most interesting. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me privately. Sincerely, Sheri Millikin A LOST PIECE OF CONFEDERATE HISTORY & HERITAGE FROM HANOVER COUNTY, VIRGINIA Many of you have become aware of the Pebble Creek fiasco which is currently taking place in Hanover County. If not, you can visit the following website link for more information-- http://www.savinggraves.com/usa/va/pebblecreek/index.html What many do NOT know, is the rich Confederate History that goes along with this particular site and family. This site, now known as Pebble Creek subdivision, was originally known as Dungarvan/Dungarvon and was owned by Edward Garland Sydnor. Edward Garland Sydnor b. Oct 15, 1769 in Hanover Cty; d. 1854 in Hanover Cty. m. Jan. 18, 1800, Sarah "Sally" White. b. Dec. 14, 1775, d.5 Nov. 1855, dau. of Barrett (1727-1782) and Elizabeth (Starke) White. He acquired a plantation of 450 acres known as "Dungarvan"near Mechanicsville in Hanover Cty in May 1805 from John and Ann Seabrook and later acquired additional acreage from the same grantor in 1813. The grantor was either his brother in-law or his brother in-law's father, more likely the former. The name "Dungarvan" appeared in Kent Cty in England in the mid-15th Century. At the time of the 1810 census, there were two older boys and a female over 45 living in Edward Garland Sydnor's household in addition to his wife and children. He was an appraiser for Hanover Cty in 1815. In 1817, he agreed to the arbitration of a construction dispute with Archelaus Hughes. In 1830 he contributed the land on which the Bethesda Baptist Church was built. It was first located on a site on "Dungarvan" east of where Walnut Grove Baptist Church is now located. The church was moved to the present site of Walnut Grove in 1841 after the Bethesda Church was burned. Edward Garland Sydnor & Sarah "Sally" White had eight of nine children who lived to maturity, they were: 1. William B. Sydnor b. Oct. 12, 1800, d. Nov 19, 1800 2. Edward Sydnor b. b. Dec. 12, 1801, d. Sept. 22, 1865 near Mechanicsville. m. (1) Jul. 15, 1824 Margaret W. Cowley, d. Sept. 13, 1833 He m. (2) Dec. 2, 1834 Sarah Elizabeth Ladd, b. Nov. 18, 1813, d. Sept. 8, 1895, dau. of Amos and Mary B. Ladd. Sarah was a Quaker. 3. Elizabeth Garland Sydnor b. Dec. 12, 1803, March 15, 1821 (unm) 4. William Barrett Sydnor b. Mar. 26, 1806, d. Sept. 20, 1862 5. Frances Ann Sydnor b. Apr. 26, 1808, Oct. 26, 1809 6. George W. Sydnor b. Mar. 4, 1810, d. May 8, 1812 7. John Seabrook b. Jul. 24, 1812, d. Aug. 7, 1869; m. Dec. 1830 Sarah Columbia White. 8. infant daughter, b. and d. Mar. 24, 1815 9. Thomas White Sydnor b. Jun.1, 1816, d. May 4, 1890; m. (1) Oct. 15, 1840 Sarah Lincoln Matier Chapin; m. (2) Dec. 25, 1846 Blanche Walton McClanahan. Most of these descendants resided on the large tract of land, but each called their own homeplace something different. Edward Garland Sydnor, the father, owned "Dungarvan/Dungarvon". His son, William Barrett Sydnor, owned what was called "Meadow Farm" and it was at this farm/homeplace, according to Hanover County, It's History and Legends by Rosewell Page, page 54, "There was a famous school at "Meadow Farm", the residence of Wm.B. Sydnor, called "Meadow Farm Academy", where probably was raised the first Confederate flag." Other descendants of Edward Garland Sydnor owned the farms/homes known as "Howard's Sack", "Oakley Hill", "Walnut Lane", and "Mayfield". One article found in The Religious Herald of 1921, written by Henry C. Sydnor, the young son of William Barrett Sydnor and Sarah T. Sydnor, tells of the family's experiences during the Civil War during the Battles of Cold Harbor, Ellerson's Mill, and Mechanicsville. (Meadow Farm was only one mile from Ellerson's Mill) This family had sixteen children, five of whom were in the Confederate Army. There were several other descendants of Edward Garland Sydnor who also served the Confederacy. Another article from Richmond Homes and Memories included the following excerpt--"Nearer to Walnut Grove Church was the old home of the Edward Sydnor family, set well back from the highway, and having many special associations with the war time. It was of this home that the story was told of how Mrs. Sydnor, soon after the battle of Mechanicsville, came out on her front porch to find an officer of unimportant aspect sitting dreamily on a horse while the horse was calmly eating the tops of some beautiful flowering bushes that their owner greatly valued. Mrs. Sydnor, of course, had already gladly given to the soldiers everything that her home and her farm could provide--but she was not inclined willingly to have her remaining flowers destroyed by a horse that might just as well be nibbling at some of the nearby grass. She expressed her feelings in no uncertain words. But when the officer, aroused from his reverie by her outburst, turned around in his saddle, she saw that it was none other than General "Stonewall" Jackson, whose fine features were readily recognized. No Virginian could seem ungracious to General Jackson or to his horse--and so, the story ran, Mrs. Sydnor recanted and said it did not matter how many of her flowers were destroyed! General Jackson, we may be sure, was as courteous as was his hostess--but already the army was pressing on toward Gaines' Mill, a few miles to the east, and to a new encounter with the enemy that as making his next stand there." Finally, the most touching recollection I have run across that specifically refers to "Dungarvon/Dungarvan" is this, from Diary of the War by Professor William S. White, Jr. which was copied from a newspaper clipping). It is entitled, "Dungarvan, The Residence of the Sydnor Family, Hanover County, Virginia" and here is an excerpt-- "This Johnston house is the old Dungarvan mansion, for many years owned by the late Edward Sydnor, and its quaint-looking Dutch-gabled roof is associated with the very earliest recollections of the writer. And now, as I stand gazing upon its dear old walls, all perforated with the destroyer's artillery, the sweet scents of childhood again pass vividly before me in rapid panoramic brightness, and I think of the dear ones who welcomed me then and there; but they have been sleeping in yonder graveyard, and from heaven (if departed spirits witness or know of the wicked deeds done on earth) they behold the widespread desolation of the hearthstones where men, children and grandchildren, nephews, nieces, gathered around the aged couple." (The "yonder graveyard" referred to in this clipping is one of the two graveyards now being removed in Pebble Creek--see website link above. The other cemetery is a slave cemetery and the last burial in this one was in Feb. 1970) So, as you can see, here is a brief piece of Confederate history and heritage from one family in Hanover County,VA. It is a true shame that the leaders of this county, the very county in which I live and love so dearly, have such little regard for the founders of Hanover County or it's historical significance. Sheri Millikin Hanover Co, VA

Try this site on the Hanover Co. Genealogy site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~vahanove/cemetery.htm I think these cemeteries are the ones in the last Cemetery book written by Helen Yates. Pat

The Hanover Historical Society has two volumes containing listings of Old Cemeteries (private/family) in Hanover County. They can be reached by writing -- Hanover Historical Society P.O. Box 91 Hanover, VA 23069 Sheri Millikin (who would do lookups if she had them...mine are getting ordered this week) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 8:36 PM Subject: [VAHANOVE] Cemetery Inventory Books? > Dear List members, > > Are there any books available that contain inventories of all the cemeteries > in Hanover County? If so, how can one obtain copies of these inventory > books? Or, is there anyone willing to do some lookups for me from the > cemetery books of old graves? > > Thanks, > > Robert C. Johnston, Jr. > 139 Eagle Creek Drive > Wetumpka, AL 36092 USA > [email protected] > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

If you have not tried the Beverley Family of Virginia by John McGill I would suggest that you look it up. Many or the Randolph's of Virginia are listed in the book published in 1956. I saw some copies in a store last summer. Al

Dear List members, Are there any books available that contain inventories of all the cemeteries in Hanover County? If so, how can one obtain copies of these inventory books? Or, is there anyone willing to do some lookups for me from the cemetery books of old graves? Thanks, Robert C. Johnston, Jr. 139 Eagle Creek Drive Wetumpka, AL 36092 USA [email protected]

Sherri - I'll be coming from Virginia Beach where my dad lives traveling home to Northern Ohio from Southern Florida - by myself. So I'll go during daylight hours only to the cemetery. My grandparents are buried at Shockloe Cemetery and I need to get a picture of the headstones. Addresses and directions are more than welcome!!! I'm not at all familiar with that area. I was there only once a couple years ago with my dad and it was a whirlwind tour of Doswell where he grew up. I'll be leaving here Tue. a.m. to fly out to Florida. Thanks Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] Tidbit of Info > Sue, > If you are planning on doing some genealogy research, I would suggest > the Hanover Courthouse. The Deed Books, Will Books, etc. are all right there > & the Pamunkey branch library is within walking distance & there is a wealth > of research there too. > If you are going to Shockoe Cemetery in Richmond, be sure to go during > DAYLIGHT hours and have someone else with you, preferrably a strong man. It > is definitely not located in the safest of areas. > Where are you coming from & I'll send you detailed directions. > Sheri > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Johnson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] Tidbit of Info > > > > Sherri - I'll be driving through Hanover area next week but will only have > a > > day for research. Can you suggest the best place to gain alot of really > good > > information quickly. I'll be looking for anything on my James H. Lester I > > can find. I'll also want to visit Shockloe (SP?) Cemetery. Do you know > > where it is located? > > > > Thanks > > Sue > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 9:33 AM > > Subject: [VAHANOVE] Tidbit of Info > > > > > > > Here's a lil' tidbit of one portion of Hanover County history & surnames > > to > > > pass along for those interested. Surnames are in CAPS. > > > > > > On 30 May, 1805, by deed, 450 acres (including the area formerly known > as > > > Dungarvan-now known as Pebble Creek) were transferred from John SEABROOK > > and > > > his wife Ann to Edward Garland SYDNOR at a cost of thirteen hundred and > > > fifty pounds current money of Virginia. > > > > > > At a court of monthly session held for Hanover County at the Courthouse > on > > > Wednesday, the 28th of August, 1805. > > > > > > (Copied from the original deed, loaned to F.W. Sydnor by Mrs. Nelson, > > which > > > was the property of Walter Sydnor Sr., Atty.) > > > > > > Other deeds to this property can be found at- > > > http://www.savinggraves.com/usa/va/pebblecreek/index.html > > > > > > Edward Garland SYDNOR b.1769 and his wife, Sally WHITE ca.1775 had > several > > > children, including William B. SYDNOR 1806-1862. > > > > > > William B. SYDNOR married Sarah T. AUSTIN 1812-1879. > > > Sarah T. AUSTIN was the daughter of William Smith AUSTIN 1788-1866 and > his > > > wife, Nancy WINN 1794-1849. These families were neighbors, the AUSTIN's > > > living at Walnut Lane which adjoined Meadow Farm on Cold Harbor Road and > > > also adjoined Oakley Hill where William B. SYDNOR's brother, Edward, > > lived. > > > > > > Edward Garland SYDNOR and wife, Sally WHITE lived at Dungarvan and below > > is > > > a brief excerpt regarding that home. > > > > > > Excerpt taken from > > > The Sydnor Family Saga by Sydnor Thompson, Jr. > > > (Monarch Printers, Inc. - 2000 HB. NF. Book # 0108054) > > > > > > Dungarvan, The Residence of the Sydnor Family, Hanover Co, VA > > > fn. 4, p. 53 > > > > > > This Johnston house is the old Dungarvan mansion, for many years owned > by > > > the late Edward Sydnor, and its quaint-looking Dutch-gabled roof is > > > associated with the very earliest recollections of the writer. > > > And now, as I stand gazing upon its dear old walls, all perforated with > > the > > > destroyer's artillery, the sweet scents of childhood again pass vividly > > > before me in rapid panoramic brightness, and I think of the dear ones > who > > > welcomed me then and there; but they have been sleeping in yonder > > graveyard, > > > and from heave (if departed spirits witness or know of the wicked deeds > > done > > > on earth) they behold the widespread desolation of the hearthstones > where > > > men, children, and grandchildren, nephews and nieces, gathered around > the > > > aged couple. > > > > > > >From A Diary of the War by Professor William S. White, Jr., Helena, AR > > > (copied from a newspaper clipping) > > > > > > FYI---The "yonder graveyard" referred to is one of the two same > graveyards > > > being destroyed now at Pebble Creek in Hanover Co. > > > > > > Sheri Millikin > > > Hanover, VA > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Would be interesting in corresponding with anyone related to this family. According to Hinshaw's Quaker Rec. Fairfax MM, Loudoun Co. William HARRIS md. Hannah. Children: Esther b. 7 Sep 1744 in VA Martha b. 29 Sep 1746 in VA William Jr. b. 19 Oct 1748 in VA, md. Elizabeth HOLMES Daniel b. 14 Nov 1751 in VA Hannah b. 13 Feb 1753 in VA Jesse b. 24 Feb 1755 in VA Samuel b. 22 Mar 1757 in VA, md. Margaret HOLMES Mary b. 7 Apr 1759 My ancestor is a Jesse HARRIS who was born about the same time as the Jesse above. I have no proof he is mine but I would like to see if anyone would have information on this family! Thanks, Donna Merrill

Dear subscriber of New Kent Co., VA I will try to be on the look-out for your Randolph ancestor in early Albemarle Co. In the meantime, try this VA State Library website: http://image.vtls.com/collections/cc_archive.html#gene Some Virginia wills, inventories, administrations from Clayton Torrence's book are listed above. Of course, much NEW (really old) material has been found since he published his book. The Antient Press (www.antientpress.com) has published some early records of Albemarle Co. Their books are not cheap--but they are so thorough that the compilers (the Sparacios) won several awards--and the blessings of many of us genealogists--for their diligence! Take a look also on that URL at the Virginia land grants, particularly for Jones. I do know there were some Joneses in Albemarle Co., as one of my Harris ladies married a Foster Jones, whose father is said to have been Mosias Jones, formerly of Louisa Co. Look for the name Overton as I believe that Jones and Overton were some early patentees in Virginia, and they probably clustered in the same places. Suggestion for finding an ancestor (or a present-day cousin) on the internet: Try search engine www.google.com Put the proper name of your ancestor in quotation marks. Up will come MANY li stings (at least for Jones), but by scurrying through the few words that appear, you will be able to determine whether there is any genealogical info. Click on the word "cached" in case anything turns up which interests you. Even though a name is uncommon, it seems there may be someone of current days who has that name!! Frustrating, but interesting! For instance, I was looking for a brother-in-law of one of my ancestresses. His name was Jeremiah Poston of early Caswell Co., NC. Darned if there is not some scientist (I think I remember) who now bears that name!!! Please be aware that Hanover Co. records (except for land grants and some merchants' accounts, the latter published in some recent volumes of The Magazine of Virginia Genealogy and a vestry book - I think) have largely been destroyed, making it one of Virginia's famed "burned counties." However, many Louisa Co. records still exist, Louisa Co. having been formed in 1742 from Hanover Co., and the early deeds of Louisa Co. refer to many residents of Hanover Co. For Louisa Co., the parent county of Albemarle, Mrs. Rosalie Edith Davis of Manchester, MO has abstracted/published the deeds and some tax lists and some vestrybooks and processioning records (Fredericksville Par.) of Louisa Co. I have her e-mail address should you be interested in purchasing any of her very reasonably priced paperbacks. These were published many years ago, and I know she is still selling them, but I'm not sure of her age--so a word of caution--buy while you can. If they have nothing of interest to you, donate them to your favorite genealogical library. That's what I do, and at times, people come up to me at that library and thank me for donating that book--he/she has found an ancestor there!!! I do not have J. Estelle King's book of Albemarle Co. wills. It is at a nearby LDS library, but I am so busy when there (I volunteer and at times teach a class) that I don't do look-ups for people. I'm sure there is a copy of King's book at the VA State Library in Richmond. Please see if the book has been filmed by LDS. Check their online catalog at www.familysearch.org The link to the catalog is on the lower right, and just above it is a link to over 3,000 worldwide Fam Hist Centers. Hope there is one near you. If so, you can order the film from Salt Lake City for a small fee. Otherwise, you can request a special form at your LDS center for photocopies to be made of the index of King's book. Then later, you can order the pages that apply to your ancestors. There is a small fee, but it's cheaper than your going to Salt Lake City! While searching the catalog, search for all the places where your ancestors lived. You will be amazed at the holdings of the Fam Hist Library--many of which have been filmed. Also, ask your public librarian about interlibrary loan, especially from the VA State Library. I was able to borrow recently from a KY community college a book on early Kentucky land grants. It had to be read in my own country library, but it was a lot cheaper than buying the book. Do your book & film window shopping at the FHL catalog, and if the book has NOT been filmed, ask your librarian about interlibrary loan. Print out the listing so that you can provide as much info as possible. Most librarians, at least in California, are NOT interested in family history--except that of celebrities, so we genealogists have to educate them. (My apologies to librarians who are genealogists--a rare breed, indeed!) Incidentally, the Randolph family was very prominent in Virginia during colonial times. This is from processioning records of Fredericksville Parish, Louisa Co. concerning a Randolph: (p. 54 of vestrybook) In obedience to an Order of Vestry dated 28th Sept. 1752, we have peaceably & quietly processioned all the land in our precincts Except one line between John Jouet & Mathew Jouet one line between Thos. Balld. Smith & Bev. [Beverly] Randolph and one line between the said Randolph & John Holt who fail'd to give their attendance. 26th March 1752. (Rosalie Edith Davis, FREDERICKSVILLE PARISH VESTRY BOOK INDENTURES AND PROCESSIONG RETURNS 1742-1787, Vol. 2 [Manchester, MO: Published by author, 1981], p. 17) Incidentally, although I know little of the Randolphs, I have collected a fair amount of info on the father of Matthew and John Jouett: Matthew Jouett the elder. Reasons: 1) One John Jouett married one of my Harris ladies 2) the sister of these brothers by the name of Henrietta Jouett married one Joseph Williams later of Lunenburg Co., VA. Joseph Wms. is one of my great-umpteen uncles! See if your local library has copies of Cavaliers and Pioneers, which are abstracts of the aforementioned land grants of colonial Virginia (but not Northern Neck). You are bound to find some Randolphs!!! E.W.Wallace (female)

Trueman Farris asked about Graves Harris of Warren County KY. He was almost surely the son of George and Sarah (-----) Harris of Hanover County VA and Warren County KY. The information I have about this family follows. It appears from Trueman Farris' message that some of the following information about the children of Graves Harris may well be inaccurate. I'd certainly welcome any additions to this information. Best wishes. Scott Swanson Department of History Butler University 4600 Sunset Avenue Indianpolis, Indiana 46208-3485 [email protected] [George/Sarah] *George Harris of St Martin's Parish/Hanover County and Warren County KY; probably son of William Harris of Wolf Swamp, St Martin's Parish/Hanover County; died May 1824 Warren County KY; will dated 4 October 1822, proven May 1824 Warren County KY; 1810 census Warren County KY; married -----: Sarah -----; children: 1. Graves Harris of Warren County KY and Johnson County MO; born ca. 1773; died May 1849 Johnson County MO; removed to Warren County KY ca. 1807; 1810 census Warren County KY; removed to Johnson County MO ca. 1841; married 15 October 1799 Louisa County: Elizabeth Wheeler, daughter of Mark and Frances (Hudson) Higgason Wheeler, born ca. 1777, died ca. 1851 Johnson County MO; children: 1. Carter O. Harris; born 16 October 1800 Louisa County VA; died 22 November 1860 Jackson County AL; married 17 September 1835 Madison County AL: Mary Anne Hudson 2. William H. Harris; born 1804 Lousia County VA; married Susan ----- 3. Wheeler O. Harris; born ca. 1805 Lousia County VA; died ca. 1869 Lafayette County MO; married ca. 1825 KY: Roseanne Collins 4. Nancy Harris; born 1814 KY; died MO; married 4 July 1837 Warren County KY: Constant R. Brim 5. George W. Harris; born ca. 1819 Warren County KY; died MO; married 9 February 1843 Lafayette County MO: Mary Anne Young 6. James H. Harris; born 25 June 1817 Warren County KY; died 4 December 1890 Johnson County MO; married 10 June 1845 Johnson County MO: Sarah Jane Arterberry 7. Elizabeth Harris; born September 1814 Warren County KY; married 31 March 1856 Johnson County MO: John Epperson 8. Lucy Harris; born ca. 1820 Warren County KY; died MO; married Caleb May 9. Mary Harris; born ca. 1825 Warren County KY; died 3 March 1848 Johnson County MO: Leander Creasmen 10. Frances E. Harris; born 1828 Warren County KY; died 21 October 1903 Henry County MO: married 8 June 1848 Johnson County MO: William T. Collins 11. Charles Hudson Harris; born ca. 1823 Warren County KY; died MO; married 7 May 1846 Lafayette County MO: Hulda Collins 2. William Hudson Harris; born 1775; married 5 October 1805 Warren County KY: Catherine Anderson; children: 1. James Harris; married 27 January 1817 Warren County KY: Nancy Johnson 2. Thomas H. Harris; born ca. 1803; married 21 January 1822 Warren County KY: Martha E. Skiles 3. Alexander C. Harris; born ca. 1809; married 19 December 1841 Warren County KY: Mary Wilkerson 4. Nancy L. Harris; born ca. 1821; died Warren County KY; married George L. Blewert 3. Elizabeth Dickson Harris; born ca. 1783; died 30 November 1838 KY; married 9 October 1802 VA: Major Holland of Fluvanna County VA 4. Frances Harris; born ca. 1784; married Hezekiah Holland 5. Sarah Harris; born ca. 1785; married 13 January 1807 Lincoln County KY: Charles Epperson 6. George Overton Harris Jr; born ca. 1790; died 10 November 1855 Warren County KY; married 5 April 1813 Warren County KY: Elizabeth Holland 7. Mary Graves Harris; born ca. 1793; married James Thomas 8. Lucy Overton Harris; born ca. 1799; died Jackson County MO; married 1 26 November 1817: Allen Johnson; married second 24 October 1823: Richard Merritt

Sue, If you are planning on doing some genealogy research, I would suggest the Hanover Courthouse. The Deed Books, Will Books, etc. are all right there & the Pamunkey branch library is within walking distance & there is a wealth of research there too. If you are going to Shockoe Cemetery in Richmond, be sure to go during DAYLIGHT hours and have someone else with you, preferrably a strong man. It is definitely not located in the safest of areas. Where are you coming from & I'll send you detailed directions. Sheri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] Tidbit of Info > Sherri - I'll be driving through Hanover area next week but will only have a > day for research. Can you suggest the best place to gain alot of really good > information quickly. I'll be looking for anything on my James H. Lester I > can find. I'll also want to visit Shockloe (SP?) Cemetery. Do you know > where it is located? > > Thanks > Sue > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 9:33 AM > Subject: [VAHANOVE] Tidbit of Info > > > > Here's a lil' tidbit of one portion of Hanover County history & surnames > to > > pass along for those interested. Surnames are in CAPS. > > > > On 30 May, 1805, by deed, 450 acres (including the area formerly known as > > Dungarvan-now known as Pebble Creek) were transferred from John SEABROOK > and > > his wife Ann to Edward Garland SYDNOR at a cost of thirteen hundred and > > fifty pounds current money of Virginia. > > > > At a court of monthly session held for Hanover County at the Courthouse on > > Wednesday, the 28th of August, 1805. > > > > (Copied from the original deed, loaned to F.W. Sydnor by Mrs. Nelson, > which > > was the property of Walter Sydnor Sr., Atty.) > > > > Other deeds to this property can be found at- > > http://www.savinggraves.com/usa/va/pebblecreek/index.html > > > > Edward Garland SYDNOR b.1769 and his wife, Sally WHITE ca.1775 had several > > children, including William B. SYDNOR 1806-1862. > > > > William B. SYDNOR married Sarah T. AUSTIN 1812-1879. > > Sarah T. AUSTIN was the daughter of William Smith AUSTIN 1788-1866 and his > > wife, Nancy WINN 1794-1849. These families were neighbors, the AUSTIN's > > living at Walnut Lane which adjoined Meadow Farm on Cold Harbor Road and > > also adjoined Oakley Hill where William B. SYDNOR's brother, Edward, > lived. > > > > Edward Garland SYDNOR and wife, Sally WHITE lived at Dungarvan and below > is > > a brief excerpt regarding that home. > > > > Excerpt taken from > > The Sydnor Family Saga by Sydnor Thompson, Jr. > > (Monarch Printers, Inc. - 2000 HB. NF. Book # 0108054) > > > > Dungarvan, The Residence of the Sydnor Family, Hanover Co, VA > > fn. 4, p. 53 > > > > This Johnston house is the old Dungarvan mansion, for many years owned by > > the late Edward Sydnor, and its quaint-looking Dutch-gabled roof is > > associated with the very earliest recollections of the writer. > > And now, as I stand gazing upon its dear old walls, all perforated with > the > > destroyer's artillery, the sweet scents of childhood again pass vividly > > before me in rapid panoramic brightness, and I think of the dear ones who > > welcomed me then and there; but they have been sleeping in yonder > graveyard, > > and from heave (if departed spirits witness or know of the wicked deeds > done > > on earth) they behold the widespread desolation of the hearthstones where > > men, children, and grandchildren, nephews and nieces, gathered around the > > aged couple. > > > > >From A Diary of the War by Professor William S. White, Jr., Helena, AR > > (copied from a newspaper clipping) > > > > FYI---The "yonder graveyard" referred to is one of the two same graveyards > > being destroyed now at Pebble Creek in Hanover Co. > > > > Sheri Millikin > > Hanover, VA > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Sherri - I'll be driving through Hanover area next week but will only have a day for research. Can you suggest the best place to gain alot of really good information quickly. I'll be looking for anything on my James H. Lester I can find. I'll also want to visit Shockloe (SP?) Cemetery. Do you know where it is located? Thanks Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 9:33 AM Subject: [VAHANOVE] Tidbit of Info > Here's a lil' tidbit of one portion of Hanover County history & surnames to > pass along for those interested. Surnames are in CAPS. > > On 30 May, 1805, by deed, 450 acres (including the area formerly known as > Dungarvan-now known as Pebble Creek) were transferred from John SEABROOK and > his wife Ann to Edward Garland SYDNOR at a cost of thirteen hundred and > fifty pounds current money of Virginia. > > At a court of monthly session held for Hanover County at the Courthouse on > Wednesday, the 28th of August, 1805. > > (Copied from the original deed, loaned to F.W. Sydnor by Mrs. Nelson, which > was the property of Walter Sydnor Sr., Atty.) > > Other deeds to this property can be found at- > http://www.savinggraves.com/usa/va/pebblecreek/index.html > > Edward Garland SYDNOR b.1769 and his wife, Sally WHITE ca.1775 had several > children, including William B. SYDNOR 1806-1862. > > William B. SYDNOR married Sarah T. AUSTIN 1812-1879. > Sarah T. AUSTIN was the daughter of William Smith AUSTIN 1788-1866 and his > wife, Nancy WINN 1794-1849. These families were neighbors, the AUSTIN's > living at Walnut Lane which adjoined Meadow Farm on Cold Harbor Road and > also adjoined Oakley Hill where William B. SYDNOR's brother, Edward, lived. > > Edward Garland SYDNOR and wife, Sally WHITE lived at Dungarvan and below is > a brief excerpt regarding that home. > > Excerpt taken from > The Sydnor Family Saga by Sydnor Thompson, Jr. > (Monarch Printers, Inc. - 2000 HB. NF. Book # 0108054) > > Dungarvan, The Residence of the Sydnor Family, Hanover Co, VA > fn. 4, p. 53 > > This Johnston house is the old Dungarvan mansion, for many years owned by > the late Edward Sydnor, and its quaint-looking Dutch-gabled roof is > associated with the very earliest recollections of the writer. > And now, as I stand gazing upon its dear old walls, all perforated with the > destroyer's artillery, the sweet scents of childhood again pass vividly > before me in rapid panoramic brightness, and I think of the dear ones who > welcomed me then and there; but they have been sleeping in yonder graveyard, > and from heave (if departed spirits witness or know of the wicked deeds done > on earth) they behold the widespread desolation of the hearthstones where > men, children, and grandchildren, nephews and nieces, gathered around the > aged couple. > > >From A Diary of the War by Professor William S. White, Jr., Helena, AR > (copied from a newspaper clipping) > > FYI---The "yonder graveyard" referred to is one of the two same graveyards > being destroyed now at Pebble Creek in Hanover Co. > > Sheri Millikin > Hanover, VA > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Here's a lil' tidbit of one portion of Hanover County history & surnames to pass along for those interested. Surnames are in CAPS. On 30 May, 1805, by deed, 450 acres (including the area formerly known as Dungarvan-now known as Pebble Creek) were transferred from John SEABROOK and his wife Ann to Edward Garland SYDNOR at a cost of thirteen hundred and fifty pounds current money of Virginia. At a court of monthly session held for Hanover County at the Courthouse on Wednesday, the 28th of August, 1805. (Copied from the original deed, loaned to F.W. Sydnor by Mrs. Nelson, which was the property of Walter Sydnor Sr., Atty.) Other deeds to this property can be found at- http://www.savinggraves.com/usa/va/pebblecreek/index.html Edward Garland SYDNOR b.1769 and his wife, Sally WHITE ca.1775 had several children, including William B. SYDNOR 1806-1862. William B. SYDNOR married Sarah T. AUSTIN 1812-1879. Sarah T. AUSTIN was the daughter of William Smith AUSTIN 1788-1866 and his wife, Nancy WINN 1794-1849. These families were neighbors, the AUSTIN's living at Walnut Lane which adjoined Meadow Farm on Cold Harbor Road and also adjoined Oakley Hill where William B. SYDNOR's brother, Edward, lived. Edward Garland SYDNOR and wife, Sally WHITE lived at Dungarvan and below is a brief excerpt regarding that home. Excerpt taken from The Sydnor Family Saga by Sydnor Thompson, Jr. (Monarch Printers, Inc. - 2000 HB. NF. Book # 0108054) Dungarvan, The Residence of the Sydnor Family, Hanover Co, VA fn. 4, p. 53 This Johnston house is the old Dungarvan mansion, for many years owned by the late Edward Sydnor, and its quaint-looking Dutch-gabled roof is associated with the very earliest recollections of the writer. And now, as I stand gazing upon its dear old walls, all perforated with the destroyer's artillery, the sweet scents of childhood again pass vividly before me in rapid panoramic brightness, and I think of the dear ones who welcomed me then and there; but they have been sleeping in yonder graveyard, and from heave (if departed spirits witness or know of the wicked deeds done on earth) they behold the widespread desolation of the hearthstones where men, children, and grandchildren, nephews and nieces, gathered around the aged couple. >From A Diary of the War by Professor William S. White, Jr., Helena, AR (copied from a newspaper clipping) FYI---The "yonder graveyard" referred to is one of the two same graveyards being destroyed now at Pebble Creek in Hanover Co. Sheri Millikin Hanover, VA

[email protected] wrote: > Also, at LDS > centers there is available on CD-ROM for $5.00 the catalog for the Fam Hist > Library at Salt Lake City. That library has MANY films for all the counties > in Virginia, not to mention on Virginia itself. You can access their catalog online at: http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Ann -- Ann Avery Hunter Richmond, Virginia mailto:[email protected]

You will find some information on the early Graves families of Virginia in one of the older issues of Wm & Mary Quarterly and probably in one of the volumes of Virginia Genealogies published by Genealogical Publishing Co. (I have it on CD-ROM, but in switching to a new computer [CPU], I find the computer does not want to read any of Family Archive Viewer disks!! Such a shame! Maybe we will get the reader repaired one of these days.) Anyway, a small tip--Look in all the seven volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers (colonial land grant abstracts of Virginia) for the name Graves and then try to find Harrises in the same vicinity--generally the watercourse. An early Henry Graves was in Hanover Co., VA, and some "orphans" of Henry Graves--names William Graves and Elijah Graves--are found in Louisa Co. records (colonial era). Elijah died testate, I believe, in Mecklenburg Co., VA. Generally, in genealogy you should work backwards from what you know to what you don't know, so that you don't connect up with the wrong families. However, I find that even that time on unsuccessful research is not wasted--I learn about the time and the place. But, maybe you are in a hurry! Some of us have been at this hobby for decades! Henry Graves of early Hanover Co. is linked--I don't know whether they were brothers or not--to one Ralph Graves whose wife was --- Womack. The will of one William Womack in Goochland Co. will tell you more about the wife of Ralph Graves--and her several sisters--and one brother, William Womack, Jr. Henry Graves bought some land in Goochland Co., and some of those records have been abstracted by Benjamin B. Weisiger III and are on microfiche at FHL in Salt Lake City. They can be brought to your local center for 15 cents apiece. (He also did some abstracts of Henrico Co. and several other counties.) Also, if you have any idea of the Virginia origins of your ancestors, you may want to examine Virginia Historical Index by Earl G. Swem--which is on at least a hundred microfiche in all LDS family history centers, I am told. I know it is in the LDS center which I use. Again, this is an index only, and you will have to note in the preface what journals (and the VA Calendar of State Papers) these names appear. Good luck to you. Oh, yes, if there is an LDS center near you, purchase the Research Outline for Virginia. It needs to be updated, but still it will give you some ideas of where to search--and what is on film. Also, at LDS centers there is available on CD-ROM for $5.00 the catalog for the Fam Hist Library at Salt Lake City. That library has MANY films for all the counties in Virginia, not to mention on Virginia itself. E.W.Wallace a great user of LDS facilities