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    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] Discussion on Oakwood Cemetery
    2. I live near Richmond and as recently as this past summer attended a funeral at Oakwood. Granted, it is not the "jewel" it was in it's early years, the surrounding area has fallen victim to poverty and drugs have wreaked havoc in the apartment complexes nearby but I'd say overall the cemetery is not in as horrible condition as some have reported. Sure there are stones that are damaged or toppled but I'd say this is as much from age as much as vandalism, shrubs might have been removed due to disease or damage from the many ice storms this area is plagued with. I have a wide range of relatives buried there including a Rochelle cousin that died at Malvern Hill, immigrant maternal grandfather and Va born grandmother and my biological grparents and grgrandmother. My bio-grandfather was even a caretaker at Oakwood for many years in the early 1900's. All of their graves are quite presentable. So don't despair so at the condition of your ancestors resting places-things are doubtfully as bad as you think. It is more the area surrounding it that is in such as sad state.......and this is much sadder because these folks are living. Hope you all have a very Merry Christmas season! Donna Rochelle Kennedy Christmas is not a day nor a season but a state of mind....

    12/25/2005 04:13:24
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] Discussion on Oakwood Cemetery
    2. Diane S
    3. Laura - the courage of those men, most poor farmers who could not ever hope to own a slave, and the women they left behind, boggles my mind! I have done enough research to know the hardships involved for both and the movie 'Cold Mountain' came pretty close to the truth - happy endings were rare and all who returned were never the same again. Boys left for adventure and to fight for a premise that I am sure many never even understood. They just knew their 'country', their state, called them, and they answered - so many - and so many dead - so many families left desolate. I found David's widow, Huldah (my brick wall but according to Franklin County marriage record - Quailes - I just can't find her family!) in the same place, living with one of her daughters, Martha, a widow at age 22, both are working as a seamstress. By 1880, Martha has remarried - and I find Huldah, who had again cheated on her age (she did every census getting younger and younger), working as a housekeeper for an e! lderly couple in Madison County, Ga. - and I lose her there... my own ancestor, Nancy, the oldest child of Huldah and David moved to S.C. with her soldier husband, W. B. Quailes, Anderson Sharpshooters, - severely wounded in the head at Frazier's farm, he recovered and was present at Appomattox. There my great-grandmother was born and William tried farming - didn't take long and the young family moved to Atlanta. There, during the flu epidemic of 1869, after nursing her oldest child, Willie Johnston, he died at 7 1/2 yrs., 6 mos. later, Nancy, weakened by the flu, dies in childbirth with an un-named daughter. My great-grandmother was Nancy's only living child. None of the family knew anything about the story of the McDonald family until I began searching and I am just happy I was able to find them! is it o.k. if I wish everyone a Merry Christmas? well, I just did... Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: JONESDOGS@aol.com To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] Discussion on Oakwood Cemetery Diane and all... Wow! Those words made tears swell in my eyes and my heart aches with pride for those brave souls that whatever brought them to feel so strongly on one side or another that they gave their lives. I pray we never see that day in this country again. There's a lot to be said..."United We Stand, Divided We Fall." L'est we Forget! My great grandfather fought for the CSA. He owned no slaves either. He was captured at Missionary Ridge, put in prison in Rock Island, Illinois. He was released on some sort of prisoner exchange. He joined again. Had he been caught...he'd have been shot on the spot. When the war was over, he was somewhere near Atlanta...he walked to Nashville, where his family sent a wagon for him to bring him back to Nelson Co. Ky. Merry Christmas Laura Louisville, Ky. ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005

    12/22/2005 06:17:59
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] Discussion on Oakwood Cemetery
    2. Diane and all... Wow! Those words made tears swell in my eyes and my heart aches with pride for those brave souls that whatever brought them to feel so strongly on one side or another that they gave their lives. I pray we never see that day in this country again. There's a lot to be said..."United We Stand, Divided We Fall." L'est we Forget! My great grandfather fought for the CSA. He owned no slaves either. He was captured at Missionary Ridge, put in prison in Rock Island, Illinois. He was released on some sort of prisoner exchange. He joined again. Had he been caught...he'd have been shot on the spot. When the war was over, he was somewhere near Atlanta...he walked to Nashville, where his family sent a wagon for him to bring him back to Nelson Co. Ky. Merry Christmas Laura Louisville, Ky.

    12/22/2005 12:37:31
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones
    2. Diane S
    3. Marie - the housing unit there is the one that was closed - and soon, I hope the buildings will come down. What does it matter - upright or flat - mark his grave and honor him - that is what it means... nothing more. You will feel so good when you see it there and know that others will pass that way and know who lies there. The upright stones are being replaced because of upkeep - and I can understand that... my own soldier, my young husband, an Airborne Ranger Lt. like under a marble base with a VA furnished flat marker... and below is my own memorial - with the last date missing, of course. I prefer to nourish a garden with my ashes... and such is fitting since I have been married to my present husband for 39 yrs. He will be buried at Arlington. You will feel so much better just to have it done! Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: mwj819@aol.com To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones Diane - I will email you a name and number of a possible SCV group to do your dedication. They are working on taking over the Oakwood cemetery Confederate section. I have also just recently located one of my gggrandfathers who also died in one of the general hospitals in downtown Richmond, he was listed incorrectly on the regisers so if you see anything that might be your guy check it out - it would have saved me three years! My Andrew B. Walker of the 22nd Va. Inf. was listed as A. B. Walker, Ga. after looking at it harder no A. B. Walker listed in Ga. Inf. and the date of burial was a day after the death of Andrew. The Confederate Museum has copies of the register of burials- they too were buried in mass numbers three to a grave marker. I did not know about the right side and left side of the road but my guy is on the right side and he died in 1862. We have not ordered a marker yet as they will not let uprights in yet and I am hoping when the SCV take over I will b! e ! able to get an upright. I visit out at Oakwood often - it is not a real good place to go alone - and the Confederates are on the front wall where a apartment complex is located that is known to be very rough - the whole area is - so not go in the evening or by yourself! I would almost be scared to have a dedication out there - you could be shot! Marie -----Original Message----- From: Diane S <dsanfilippo303@adelphia.net> To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:20:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones John, there is a database of Georgia soldiers buried in Hollywood in the ga archives of GenWeb and/or RootsWeb. I found my 3x great grandfather, David Aldrin McDonald buried in Oakwood, and have since had his grave marked - he was from Athens, Ga. and died in Chimborazo #8, I think without looking... and another tip - soldiers who died at Chimborazo were buried at Oakwood. I have tried and tried to find a Sons group to have a small dedication service for David's marker, to no avail. Its sad to live in the Capitol of the Confederacy and not be able to find anyone to honor an ancestor - whether he was from any of the Confederate states! Oh, Ricky, at Oakwood is most helpful in locating the soldiers and we followed him out to the 1862 cemetery and he found the grave for us - much, much better marked than Hollywood - although not as lovely or prestigious. Ricky has a list in his office with names and grave sites, however I found the information on the unit's website. I also have a great-great-uncle buried among the unknown at Oakwood - I think my husband breathed a sigh of relief... The sad thing is that at Hollywood, the soldiers were buried three to a grave, coffins laid out like cord wood in trenches, some not as deep as usual, and often, when 'business' was heavy, days went by before burial, rendering the entire site a horrific scene. Its quiet and peaceful now - the neighborhood is not the best and visitors should be well advised to leave way before dusk, but the old cemetery, unlike the new, exudes a feeling of sadness, but dignity. If you visit go by and visit David's grave - the 1862 graves are on the right side of the road and the 1864 on the left. Look for the gazebo on the left - take a straight line from the left corner marker, across the street and in three markers - and you will find David's grave. What a wonderful service you are offering for those who do not live in the area! Diane S ----- Original Message ----- From: JOHN TAYLOR To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones Karen, Your best bet would be to contact the Mississippi State Archives - Mississippi Confederate Soldiers records should be on file by unit, and you already know that he was in Co. A 11th Mississippi Infantry. The records will be on microfilm and also any widow's pension applications. Do you know if he was buried in Ashland? We have a mass grave in the Woodland Cemetery in Ashland in which approximately four hundred Confederate Soldiers are buried. There is only one marker stating that they are Confederate Unknowns, but the marker is incorrect. approximately 200 of them are known and there is a record of them at the Library of Virginia in Richmond. We had so many soldiers from our sister states die in Virginia and for many reasons they could not be sent home for burial. Many of them lie in unmarked graves in Hollywood Cemetery, Oakwood Cemetery, and Woodland Cemetery in Ashland. Many of them are known and usually their graves are marked only by a number that corresponds to their name information. If you can determine that N. Jones was buried in Virginia please let me know and I will try to locate his grave for you. Your obedient servant, John Henry Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: <pooka@arn.net> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1250 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for info on N. Jones. He was in Co. A. 11th Miss Infantry. He > was a private He joined the Confederate Infantry March 1, 1862 at Spring > Dale. Miss. He died at Ashland, Virginia. I am trying to find what the > N. stood for? Could it have been Norman or Norbert? Did he have a wife, > or does anyone know when he was born, or his parents? > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest > List > to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    12/22/2005 11:20:17
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] Discussion on Oakwood Cemetery
    2. Diane S
    3. Charlotte and Marie - Honestly, I did not find any horrific conditions in the old cemetery - its like a world unto its own... not even a part of the new cemetery which is pock marked with new graves of the recently slain victims/members of the drug culture in the housing.. I went with the idea of moving my ancestor back to the family cemetery in Banks Co., Ga., not knowing then of the hasty and otherwise disgusting manner of the burial of the soldiers. I kept researching and also found someone with a website saying how disgusting the present state of the cemetery is, however I am not even sure he was in the same place I visited. Yes, I can see the abandoned bldgs. of the vacated housing, but just the roofs and just barely... otherwise, it was clean, I found no disfigured markers, there were undisturbed Confederate flags on some of the graves, and I felt a 'calm' and peace overcome my previous trepidation. It took just a few minutes of standing there and I decided that David was where he should be - with his fellow soldiers. What caused this then elderly, 47, man to join the Army when he did not have to join? I had to mull all that through my head, and the answer I came up with was that he wanted to! He craved the excitement and the camaraderie! of young men headed for battle, and he believed in the cause. David owned no slaves - never did - his father did but his father died when he was 14 and was a Rev. War veteran. David did not take to farming so he moved to the city and took a job as supervisor of street laborers. No, I would not disturb his rest, even had I been able to identify his bones, which would have required expensive DNA, I would leave him where he knew he might wind up when he left Ga., in a common grave with fellow soldiers. As we turned to leave, I vowed to mark his grave so all would know his name, and I softly whispered, not just to David, but the hundreds of unmarked graves, 'Rest in peace, old soldier, your job is done'. Next time I went back a gleaming bronze marker had been installed in the place where David's head rested in the hard clay of Virginia - not unlike the clay of Georgia - the same, yet different, as were all those men who lay there, side by side, bone touching bone, and I felt pride - pride in all of them, and pride in myself for finding him after all these years! Go, visit Oakwood - close your eyes as you pass through the new cemetery, but be sure to open them as you head down the hill towards the creek - its another world. Merry Christmas everyone! ----- Original Message ----- From: mwj819@aol.com To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] Discussion on Oakwood Cemetery Charlotte - You describe it just as my mother, Patricia McDonough Walker described it - as she went out there when little and played and picniced at the cemetery that was in walking distance of so many homes. Her grandfather James Allen cut the grass out there with a blade lawnmover (I don't know what you call a lawnmover without a motor) and kept up all of my family members grave sites which I am ashamed to say are not in very good condition today. It is a disgrace to all of our ancestors not just at Oakwood but at the other city owned cemeteries for the way they are kept up. That is one reason at my mothers death a few years back we picked Mt. Calvary which is kept very nice and is not owned by the city!! I have visited most of the city owned one and I think Oakwood is the worse! Marie -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Geier <chargerfree@mindspring.com> To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:57:36 -0700 Subject: [VAHANOVE] Discussion on Oakwood Cemetery Recent discussions on the condition of Oakwood Cemetery have saddened me greatly. I well remember as a child in the 50's, visiting often this then well-manicured and 'perpetually' maintained cemetery in which my paternal great grandmother, grandmother and uncles are buried. There was always a feeling of gracefulness and quiet peace and dignity to this 'resting place' - this land which my great grandmother, Emily Cooke Shore Watkins sold to the city of Richmond August 16, 1854. We were not permitted to walk on any graves back then, though as children we were often awestruck at some of the magnificent grave monuments. The last I heard, a marker for one of my uncles is missing, and someone has cut down the gentle white lilac shrub my grandmother planted at the head of her youngest son's grave. There are supposedly one or two spaces left in grandmother's lot, and I had often imagined I might rest in peace there one day with the Woody's Funeral Home officiating as they have for! a! ll family members buried there. Hearing of the deterioration of Oakwood and its surroundings makes that sound not so desireable now. For reasons unknown to us descendants, our CSA veteran grandfather, Robert Dandridge Clarke chose to be buried in 1916 at his home, 'Old Tavern Farm' in Quinton, New Kent County rather than in Oakwood. Charlotte Clarke Geier ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. 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    12/22/2005 11:15:17
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] Discussion on Oakwood Cemetery
    2. Charlotte - You describe it just as my mother, Patricia McDonough Walker described it - as she went out there when little and played and picniced at the cemetery that was in walking distance of so many homes. Her grandfather James Allen cut the grass out there with a blade lawnmover (I don't know what you call a lawnmover without a motor) and kept up all of my family members grave sites which I am ashamed to say are not in very good condition today. It is a disgrace to all of our ancestors not just at Oakwood but at the other city owned cemeteries for the way they are kept up. That is one reason at my mothers death a few years back we picked Mt. Calvary which is kept very nice and is not owned by the city!! I have visited most of the city owned one and I think Oakwood is the worse! Marie -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Geier <chargerfree@mindspring.com> To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:57:36 -0700 Subject: [VAHANOVE] Discussion on Oakwood Cemetery Recent discussions on the condition of Oakwood Cemetery have saddened me greatly. I well remember as a child in the 50's, visiting often this then well-manicured and 'perpetually' maintained cemetery in which my paternal great grandmother, grandmother and uncles are buried. There was always a feeling of gracefulness and quiet peace and dignity to this 'resting place' - this land which my great grandmother, Emily Cooke Shore Watkins sold to the city of Richmond August 16, 1854. We were not permitted to walk on any graves back then, though as children we were often awestruck at some of the magnificent grave monuments. The last I heard, a marker for one of my uncles is missing, and someone has cut down the gentle white lilac shrub my grandmother planted at the head of her youngest son's grave. There are supposedly one or two spaces left in grandmother's lot, and I had often imagined I might rest in peace there one day with the Woody's Funeral Home officiating as they have for a! ll family members buried there. Hearing of the deterioration of Oakwood and its surroundings makes that sound not so desireable now. For reasons unknown to us descendants, our CSA veteran grandfather, Robert Dandridge Clarke chose to be buried in 1916 at his home, 'Old Tavern Farm' in Quinton, New Kent County rather than in Oakwood. Charlotte Clarke Geier ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

    12/22/2005 06:16:01
    1. Discussion on Oakwood Cemetery
    2. Charlotte Geier
    3. Recent discussions on the condition of Oakwood Cemetery have saddened me greatly. I well remember as a child in the 50's, visiting often this then well-manicured and 'perpetually' maintained cemetery in which my paternal great grandmother, grandmother and uncles are buried. There was always a feeling of gracefulness and quiet peace and dignity to this 'resting place' - this land which my great grandmother, Emily Cooke Shore Watkins sold to the city of Richmond August 16, 1854. We were not permitted to walk on any graves back then, though as children we were often awestruck at some of the magnificent grave monuments. The last I heard, a marker for one of my uncles is missing, and someone has cut down the gentle white lilac shrub my grandmother planted at the head of her youngest son's grave. There are supposedly one or two spaces left in grandmother's lot, and I had often imagined I might rest in peace there one day with the Woody's Funeral Home officiating as they have for all family members buried there. Hearing of the deterioration of Oakwood and its surroundings makes that sound not so desireable now. For reasons unknown to us descendants, our CSA veteran grandfather, Robert Dandridge Clarke chose to be buried in 1916 at his home, 'Old Tavern Farm' in Quinton, New Kent County rather than in Oakwood. Charlotte Clarke Geier

    12/22/2005 12:57:36
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones
    2. Diane S
    3. Hello John - My husband and I have lived in Powhatan County for almost 30 yrs. and I KNOW how rough Richmond can be - and is! Our sons are still nearby, and our youngest lives in that rough neighborhood near VCU where that man who murdered that girl lived... in fact just around the corner! He is almost totally blind, works at Kroger's, and has to walk - he has been 'mugged' several times, once when I was on the phone with him! We bought him a cell phone after that so he does not have to use a phone booth! Our oldest lives in a nice neighborhood in Mechanicsville, is director of marketing at Paramount, King's Dominion... but he attended VCU and I often wondered why a parent would send a child to college there! Michael was an adult by then - so on his own... his frat. house was not in the best are either... plus just to get to Hollywood, its best to lock doors and roll up windows. Once inside the gates, it is safe, and we have even picnicked there with out-of-town guests - its lovely, but the old cemetery at Oakwood is not nearly as bad as I thought it would be! Just one nearby project is closed and attracts vagrants, and the other has the highest murder rate in Richmond! Tough beat!! but visitors should be duly warned... Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: JOHN TAYLOR To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones Diane, What Marie says is true of Oakwood. I have been a police officer for the City of Richmond for twenty five years adn for twenty three years Church Hill and Fulton Hill was my assigned area. You certainly don't want to go there alone. Whenever the SCV was having a dedication there, I used to park my police car near the entrance where I could see what was going on but at the same time not detract from the ceremony. If there had been any problems I would have been there within seconds. I will be retiring in two more months, but some of the rookies I trained are also SCV members and they will also try to keep an eye on Oakwood. Your servant, John Henry Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: <mwj819@aol.com> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > Diane - I will email you a name and number of a possible SCV group to do > your dedication. They are working on taking over the Oakwood cemetery > Confederate section. I have also just recently located one of my > gggrandfathers who also died in one of the general hospitals in downtown > Richmond, he was listed incorrectly on the regisers so if you see anything > that might be your guy check it out - it would have saved me three years! > My Andrew B. Walker of the 22nd Va. Inf. was listed as A. B. Walker, Ga. > after looking at it harder no A. B. Walker listed in Ga. Inf. and the date > of burial was a day after the death of Andrew. The Confederate Museum has > copies of the register of burials- they too were buried in mass numbers > three to a grave marker. I did not know about the right side and left > side of the road but my guy is on the right side and he died in 1862. We > have not ordered a marker yet as they will not let uprights in yet and I > am hoping when the SCV take over I will be ! > able to get an upright. I visit out at Oakwood often - it is not a real > good place to go alone - and the Confederates are on the front wall where > a apartment complex is located that is known to be very rough - the whole > area is - so not go in the evening or by yourself! I would almost be > scared to have a dedication out there - you could be shot! Marie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diane S <dsanfilippo303@adelphia.net> > To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:20:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > > > John, there is a database of Georgia soldiers buried in Hollywood in the > ga > archives of GenWeb and/or RootsWeb. I found my 3x great grandfather, David > Aldrin McDonald buried in Oakwood, and have since had his grave marked - > he was > from Athens, Ga. and died in Chimborazo #8, I think without looking... and > another tip - soldiers who died at Chimborazo were buried at Oakwood. I > have > tried and tried to find a Sons group to have a small dedication service > for > David's marker, to no avail. Its sad to live in the Capitol of the > Confederacy > and not be able to find anyone to honor an ancestor - whether he was from > any of > the Confederate states! > Oh, Ricky, at Oakwood is most helpful in locating the soldiers and we > followed > him out to the 1862 cemetery and he found the grave for us - much, much > better > marked than Hollywood - although not as lovely or prestigious. Ricky has a > list > in his office with names and grave sites, however I found the information > on the > unit's website. > I also have a great-great-uncle buried among the unknown at Oakwood - I > think my > husband breathed a sigh of relief... > The sad thing is that at Hollywood, the soldiers were buried three to a > grave, > coffins laid out like cord wood in trenches, some not as deep as usual, > and > often, when 'business' was heavy, days went by before burial, rendering > the > entire site a horrific scene. > Its quiet and peaceful now - the neighborhood is not the best and visitors > should be well advised to leave way before dusk, but the old cemetery, > unlike > the new, exudes a feeling of sadness, but dignity. If you visit go by and > visit > David's grave - the 1862 graves are on the right side of the road and the > 1864 > on the left. Look for the gazebo on the left - take a straight line from > the > left corner marker, across the street and in three markers - and you will > find > David's grave. > What a wonderful service you are offering for those who do not live in the > area! > Diane S > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JOHN TAYLOR > To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:32 PM > Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > > > Karen, > > Your best bet would be to contact the Mississippi State Archives - > Mississippi Confederate Soldiers records should be on file by unit, and > you > already know that he was in Co. A 11th Mississippi Infantry. The records > will be on microfilm and also any widow's pension applications. Do you > know > if he was buried in Ashland? We have a mass grave in the Woodland > Cemetery > in Ashland in which approximately four hundred Confederate Soldiers are > buried. There is only one marker stating that they are Confederate > Unknowns, but the marker is incorrect. approximately 200 of them are > known > and there is a record of them at the Library of Virginia in Richmond. We > had so many soldiers from our sister states die in Virginia and for many > reasons they could not be sent home for burial. Many of them lie in > unmarked graves in Hollywood Cemetery, Oakwood Cemetery, and Woodland > Cemetery in Ashland. Many of them are known and usually their graves are > marked only by a number that corresponds to their name information. If > you > can determine that N. Jones was buried in Virginia please let me know and > I > will try to locate his grave for you. > > Your obedient servant, > > John Henry Taylor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pooka@arn.net> > To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:20 PM > Subject: [VAHANOVE] N. 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    12/21/2005 06:44:51
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones
    2. JOHN TAYLOR
    3. Diane, What Marie says is true of Oakwood. I have been a police officer for the City of Richmond for twenty five years adn for twenty three years Church Hill and Fulton Hill was my assigned area. You certainly don't want to go there alone. Whenever the SCV was having a dedication there, I used to park my police car near the entrance where I could see what was going on but at the same time not detract from the ceremony. If there had been any problems I would have been there within seconds. I will be retiring in two more months, but some of the rookies I trained are also SCV members and they will also try to keep an eye on Oakwood. Your servant, John Henry Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: <mwj819@aol.com> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > Diane - I will email you a name and number of a possible SCV group to do > your dedication. They are working on taking over the Oakwood cemetery > Confederate section. I have also just recently located one of my > gggrandfathers who also died in one of the general hospitals in downtown > Richmond, he was listed incorrectly on the regisers so if you see anything > that might be your guy check it out - it would have saved me three years! > My Andrew B. Walker of the 22nd Va. Inf. was listed as A. B. Walker, Ga. > after looking at it harder no A. B. Walker listed in Ga. Inf. and the date > of burial was a day after the death of Andrew. The Confederate Museum has > copies of the register of burials- they too were buried in mass numbers > three to a grave marker. I did not know about the right side and left > side of the road but my guy is on the right side and he died in 1862. We > have not ordered a marker yet as they will not let uprights in yet and I > am hoping when the SCV take over I will be ! > able to get an upright. I visit out at Oakwood often - it is not a real > good place to go alone - and the Confederates are on the front wall where > a apartment complex is located that is known to be very rough - the whole > area is - so not go in the evening or by yourself! I would almost be > scared to have a dedication out there - you could be shot! Marie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diane S <dsanfilippo303@adelphia.net> > To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:20:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > > > John, there is a database of Georgia soldiers buried in Hollywood in the > ga > archives of GenWeb and/or RootsWeb. I found my 3x great grandfather, David > Aldrin McDonald buried in Oakwood, and have since had his grave marked - > he was > from Athens, Ga. and died in Chimborazo #8, I think without looking... and > another tip - soldiers who died at Chimborazo were buried at Oakwood. I > have > tried and tried to find a Sons group to have a small dedication service > for > David's marker, to no avail. Its sad to live in the Capitol of the > Confederacy > and not be able to find anyone to honor an ancestor - whether he was from > any of > the Confederate states! > Oh, Ricky, at Oakwood is most helpful in locating the soldiers and we > followed > him out to the 1862 cemetery and he found the grave for us - much, much > better > marked than Hollywood - although not as lovely or prestigious. Ricky has a > list > in his office with names and grave sites, however I found the information > on the > unit's website. > I also have a great-great-uncle buried among the unknown at Oakwood - I > think my > husband breathed a sigh of relief... > The sad thing is that at Hollywood, the soldiers were buried three to a > grave, > coffins laid out like cord wood in trenches, some not as deep as usual, > and > often, when 'business' was heavy, days went by before burial, rendering > the > entire site a horrific scene. > Its quiet and peaceful now - the neighborhood is not the best and visitors > should be well advised to leave way before dusk, but the old cemetery, > unlike > the new, exudes a feeling of sadness, but dignity. If you visit go by and > visit > David's grave - the 1862 graves are on the right side of the road and the > 1864 > on the left. Look for the gazebo on the left - take a straight line from > the > left corner marker, across the street and in three markers - and you will > find > David's grave. > What a wonderful service you are offering for those who do not live in the > area! > Diane S > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JOHN TAYLOR > To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:32 PM > Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > > > Karen, > > Your best bet would be to contact the Mississippi State Archives - > Mississippi Confederate Soldiers records should be on file by unit, and > you > already know that he was in Co. A 11th Mississippi Infantry. The records > will be on microfilm and also any widow's pension applications. Do you > know > if he was buried in Ashland? We have a mass grave in the Woodland > Cemetery > in Ashland in which approximately four hundred Confederate Soldiers are > buried. There is only one marker stating that they are Confederate > Unknowns, but the marker is incorrect. approximately 200 of them are > known > and there is a record of them at the Library of Virginia in Richmond. We > had so many soldiers from our sister states die in Virginia and for many > reasons they could not be sent home for burial. Many of them lie in > unmarked graves in Hollywood Cemetery, Oakwood Cemetery, and Woodland > Cemetery in Ashland. Many of them are known and usually their graves are > marked only by a number that corresponds to their name information. If > you > can determine that N. Jones was buried in Virginia please let me know and > I > will try to locate his grave for you. > > Your obedient servant, > > John Henry Taylor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pooka@arn.net> > To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:20 PM > Subject: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1250 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Looking for info on N. Jones. He was in Co. A. 11th Miss Infantry. He > > was a private He joined the Confederate Infantry March 1, 1862 at > Spring > > Dale. Miss. He died at Ashland, Virginia. I am trying to find what > the > > N. stood for? Could it have been Norman or Norbert? Did he have a > wife, > > or does anyone know when he was born, or his parents? > > > > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send > > only the word > > UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the > Digest > > List > > to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. 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    12/21/2005 06:40:04
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones
    2. JOHN TAYLOR
    3. Dear Diane, I am very proud of you and your efforts to locate your ancestor's grave in Hollywood Cemetery and have it marked. I am the commander of the General Robert E. Lee Camp # 1589 Sons of Confederate Veterans, and one of the members of my camp is Bill Ward. Bill is the director of the Southern Soldiers Remembrance Fund and what we do is to obtain markers for our Confederate Dead at Hollywood who have no markers. The markers are free of charge from the government, but in that Hollywood is a private cemetery, we have to pay $100.00 for Hollywood personnel to install them. We have been doing this for some years now, and it is a project of our camp. We periodically have a dedication each year on the markers that have been installed, along with color guard, firing squad, chaplain, and speakers. If you would like I could give you Bill Ward's E-Mail and you could ask him to include David Aldrin McDonald in the next dedication and I will personally attend his dedication in uniform. He could notify you when the dedication ceremony would be held so that you could attend. Oakwood Cemetery is a whole different problem. The Confederate Section at Oakwood is presently under the control of the City of Richmond and the Oakwood Trust. Thousands of the graves are unmarked, and quite a few of the marked graves have been vandalized or damaged by cemetery workers. We (Sons of Confederate Veterans) have been trying very hard to take over the responsibility of the Confederate Section and get the graves marked appropriately and as quickly as possible. The International Sons of Confederate Veterans donated $55,000.00 to be used toward that project and we have increased the annual dues to our members by $6.00 each for Virginia members to help maintain the Confederate Section of Oakwood. Unfortunately we have been running into problems with the Oakwood Trust and we may have to go to court to get the job done. It appears to be a pride or power thing. Sooner or later we will get it done. There were of course thousands who died at Chimborazo and were just buried around the area of Oakwood. Many of these mass graves are paved over by East Richmond Road outside of the cemetery boundaries. I have the honour to remain Madam, Your most humble and obedient servant John Henry Taylor johnhenrytaylor@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane S" <dsanfilippo303@adelphia.net> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > John, there is a database of Georgia soldiers buried in Hollywood in the > ga archives of GenWeb and/or RootsWeb. I found my 3x great grandfather, > David Aldrin McDonald buried in Oakwood, and have since had his grave > marked - he was from Athens, Ga. and died in Chimborazo #8, I think > without looking... and another tip - soldiers who died at Chimborazo were > buried at Oakwood. I have tried and tried to find a Sons group to have a > small dedication service for David's marker, to no avail. Its sad to live > in the Capitol of the Confederacy and not be able to find anyone to honor > an ancestor - whether he was from any of the Confederate states! > Oh, Ricky, at Oakwood is most helpful in locating the soldiers and we > followed him out to the 1862 cemetery and he found the grave for us - > much, much better marked than Hollywood - although not as lovely or > prestigious. Ricky has a list in his office with names and grave sites, > however I found the information on the unit's website. > I also have a great-great-uncle buried among the unknown at Oakwood - I > think my husband breathed a sigh of relief... > The sad thing is that at Hollywood, the soldiers were buried three to a > grave, coffins laid out like cord wood in trenches, some not as deep as > usual, and often, when 'business' was heavy, days went by before burial, > rendering the entire site a horrific scene. > Its quiet and peaceful now - the neighborhood is not the best and visitors > should be well advised to leave way before dusk, but the old cemetery, > unlike the new, exudes a feeling of sadness, but dignity. If you visit go > by and visit David's grave - the 1862 graves are on the right side of the > road and the 1864 on the left. Look for the gazebo on the left - take a > straight line from the left corner marker, across the street and in three > markers - and you will find David's grave. > What a wonderful service you are offering for those who do not live in the > area! > Diane S > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JOHN TAYLOR > To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:32 PM > Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > > > Karen, > > Your best bet would be to contact the Mississippi State Archives - > Mississippi Confederate Soldiers records should be on file by unit, and > you > already know that he was in Co. A 11th Mississippi Infantry. The records > will be on microfilm and also any widow's pension applications. Do you > know > if he was buried in Ashland? We have a mass grave in the Woodland > Cemetery > in Ashland in which approximately four hundred Confederate Soldiers are > buried. There is only one marker stating that they are Confederate > Unknowns, but the marker is incorrect. approximately 200 of them are > known > and there is a record of them at the Library of Virginia in Richmond. We > had so many soldiers from our sister states die in Virginia and for many > reasons they could not be sent home for burial. Many of them lie in > unmarked graves in Hollywood Cemetery, Oakwood Cemetery, and Woodland > Cemetery in Ashland. Many of them are known and usually their graves are > marked only by a number that corresponds to their name information. If > you > can determine that N. Jones was buried in Virginia please let me know and > I > will try to locate his grave for you. > > Your obedient servant, > > John Henry Taylor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pooka@arn.net> > To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:20 PM > Subject: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1250 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Looking for info on N. Jones. He was in Co. A. 11th Miss Infantry. He > > was a private He joined the Confederate Infantry March 1, 1862 at > Spring > > Dale. Miss. He died at Ashland, Virginia. I am trying to find what > the > > N. stood for? Could it have been Norman or Norbert? Did he have a > wife, > > or does anyone know when he was born, or his parents? > > > > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send > > only the word > > UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the > Digest > > List > > to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. 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    12/21/2005 06:18:50
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones
    2. Diane - I will email you a name and number of a possible SCV group to do your dedication. They are working on taking over the Oakwood cemetery Confederate section. I have also just recently located one of my gggrandfathers who also died in one of the general hospitals in downtown Richmond, he was listed incorrectly on the regisers so if you see anything that might be your guy check it out - it would have saved me three years! My Andrew B. Walker of the 22nd Va. Inf. was listed as A. B. Walker, Ga. after looking at it harder no A. B. Walker listed in Ga. Inf. and the date of burial was a day after the death of Andrew. The Confederate Museum has copies of the register of burials- they too were buried in mass numbers three to a grave marker. I did not know about the right side and left side of the road but my guy is on the right side and he died in 1862. We have not ordered a marker yet as they will not let uprights in yet and I am hoping when the SCV take over I will be ! able to get an upright. I visit out at Oakwood often - it is not a real good place to go alone - and the Confederates are on the front wall where a apartment complex is located that is known to be very rough - the whole area is - so not go in the evening or by yourself! I would almost be scared to have a dedication out there - you could be shot! Marie -----Original Message----- From: Diane S <dsanfilippo303@adelphia.net> To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:20:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones John, there is a database of Georgia soldiers buried in Hollywood in the ga archives of GenWeb and/or RootsWeb. I found my 3x great grandfather, David Aldrin McDonald buried in Oakwood, and have since had his grave marked - he was from Athens, Ga. and died in Chimborazo #8, I think without looking... and another tip - soldiers who died at Chimborazo were buried at Oakwood. I have tried and tried to find a Sons group to have a small dedication service for David's marker, to no avail. Its sad to live in the Capitol of the Confederacy and not be able to find anyone to honor an ancestor - whether he was from any of the Confederate states! Oh, Ricky, at Oakwood is most helpful in locating the soldiers and we followed him out to the 1862 cemetery and he found the grave for us - much, much better marked than Hollywood - although not as lovely or prestigious. Ricky has a list in his office with names and grave sites, however I found the information on the unit's website. I also have a great-great-uncle buried among the unknown at Oakwood - I think my husband breathed a sigh of relief... The sad thing is that at Hollywood, the soldiers were buried three to a grave, coffins laid out like cord wood in trenches, some not as deep as usual, and often, when 'business' was heavy, days went by before burial, rendering the entire site a horrific scene. Its quiet and peaceful now - the neighborhood is not the best and visitors should be well advised to leave way before dusk, but the old cemetery, unlike the new, exudes a feeling of sadness, but dignity. If you visit go by and visit David's grave - the 1862 graves are on the right side of the road and the 1864 on the left. Look for the gazebo on the left - take a straight line from the left corner marker, across the street and in three markers - and you will find David's grave. What a wonderful service you are offering for those who do not live in the area! Diane S ----- Original Message ----- From: JOHN TAYLOR To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones Karen, Your best bet would be to contact the Mississippi State Archives - Mississippi Confederate Soldiers records should be on file by unit, and you already know that he was in Co. A 11th Mississippi Infantry. The records will be on microfilm and also any widow's pension applications. Do you know if he was buried in Ashland? We have a mass grave in the Woodland Cemetery in Ashland in which approximately four hundred Confederate Soldiers are buried. There is only one marker stating that they are Confederate Unknowns, but the marker is incorrect. approximately 200 of them are known and there is a record of them at the Library of Virginia in Richmond. We had so many soldiers from our sister states die in Virginia and for many reasons they could not be sent home for burial. Many of them lie in unmarked graves in Hollywood Cemetery, Oakwood Cemetery, and Woodland Cemetery in Ashland. Many of them are known and usually their graves are marked only by a number that corresponds to their name information. If you can determine that N. Jones was buried in Virginia please let me know and I will try to locate his grave for you. Your obedient servant, John Henry Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: <pooka@arn.net> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1250 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for info on N. Jones. He was in Co. A. 11th Miss Infantry. He > was a private He joined the Confederate Infantry March 1, 1862 at Spring > Dale. Miss. He died at Ashland, Virginia. I am trying to find what the > N. stood for? Could it have been Norman or Norbert? Did he have a wife, > or does anyone know when he was born, or his parents? > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest > List > to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    12/21/2005 05:59:12
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones
    2. Diane S
    3. John, there is a database of Georgia soldiers buried in Hollywood in the ga archives of GenWeb and/or RootsWeb. I found my 3x great grandfather, David Aldrin McDonald buried in Oakwood, and have since had his grave marked - he was from Athens, Ga. and died in Chimborazo #8, I think without looking... and another tip - soldiers who died at Chimborazo were buried at Oakwood. I have tried and tried to find a Sons group to have a small dedication service for David's marker, to no avail. Its sad to live in the Capitol of the Confederacy and not be able to find anyone to honor an ancestor - whether he was from any of the Confederate states! Oh, Ricky, at Oakwood is most helpful in locating the soldiers and we followed him out to the 1862 cemetery and he found the grave for us - much, much better marked than Hollywood - although not as lovely or prestigious. Ricky has a list in his office with names and grave sites, however I found the information on the unit's website. I also have a great-great-uncle buried among the unknown at Oakwood - I think my husband breathed a sigh of relief... The sad thing is that at Hollywood, the soldiers were buried three to a grave, coffins laid out like cord wood in trenches, some not as deep as usual, and often, when 'business' was heavy, days went by before burial, rendering the entire site a horrific scene. Its quiet and peaceful now - the neighborhood is not the best and visitors should be well advised to leave way before dusk, but the old cemetery, unlike the new, exudes a feeling of sadness, but dignity. If you visit go by and visit David's grave - the 1862 graves are on the right side of the road and the 1864 on the left. Look for the gazebo on the left - take a straight line from the left corner marker, across the street and in three markers - and you will find David's grave. What a wonderful service you are offering for those who do not live in the area! Diane S ----- Original Message ----- From: JOHN TAYLOR To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones Karen, Your best bet would be to contact the Mississippi State Archives - Mississippi Confederate Soldiers records should be on file by unit, and you already know that he was in Co. A 11th Mississippi Infantry. The records will be on microfilm and also any widow's pension applications. Do you know if he was buried in Ashland? We have a mass grave in the Woodland Cemetery in Ashland in which approximately four hundred Confederate Soldiers are buried. There is only one marker stating that they are Confederate Unknowns, but the marker is incorrect. approximately 200 of them are known and there is a record of them at the Library of Virginia in Richmond. We had so many soldiers from our sister states die in Virginia and for many reasons they could not be sent home for burial. Many of them lie in unmarked graves in Hollywood Cemetery, Oakwood Cemetery, and Woodland Cemetery in Ashland. Many of them are known and usually their graves are marked only by a number that corresponds to their name information. If you can determine that N. Jones was buried in Virginia please let me know and I will try to locate his grave for you. Your obedient servant, John Henry Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: <pooka@arn.net> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1250 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for info on N. Jones. He was in Co. A. 11th Miss Infantry. He > was a private He joined the Confederate Infantry March 1, 1862 at Spring > Dale. Miss. He died at Ashland, Virginia. I am trying to find what the > N. stood for? Could it have been Norman or Norbert? Did he have a wife, > or does anyone know when he was born, or his parents? > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest > List > to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/207 - Release Date: 12/19/2005

    12/21/2005 05:20:31
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] Re: N. Jones
    2. Diane S
    3. Sandy - I am very interested in finding a Jones, possibly named Philip - with a daughter, Elizabeth... Anyone? Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: [VAHANOVE] Re: N. Jones This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1250.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I have been doing some research on the Jones family here in Hanover County. Did your N. Jones live at one time in Hanover or have family here? Also do you know where he was buried? VA or Miss.? You can write me off list. Sandy Mycatrigsby@verizon.net ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2/208 - Release Date: 12/20/2005

    12/21/2005 05:07:33
    1. Re: N. Jones
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1250.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I have been doing some research on the Jones family here in Hanover County. Did your N. Jones live at one time in Hanover or have family here? Also do you know where he was buried? VA or Miss.? You can write me off list. Sandy Mycatrigsby@verizon.net

    12/21/2005 02:47:03
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones
    2. JOHN TAYLOR
    3. Karen, Your best bet would be to contact the Mississippi State Archives - Mississippi Confederate Soldiers records should be on file by unit, and you already know that he was in Co. A 11th Mississippi Infantry. The records will be on microfilm and also any widow's pension applications. Do you know if he was buried in Ashland? We have a mass grave in the Woodland Cemetery in Ashland in which approximately four hundred Confederate Soldiers are buried. There is only one marker stating that they are Confederate Unknowns, but the marker is incorrect. approximately 200 of them are known and there is a record of them at the Library of Virginia in Richmond. We had so many soldiers from our sister states die in Virginia and for many reasons they could not be sent home for burial. Many of them lie in unmarked graves in Hollywood Cemetery, Oakwood Cemetery, and Woodland Cemetery in Ashland. Many of them are known and usually their graves are marked only by a number that corresponds to their name information. If you can determine that N. Jones was buried in Virginia please let me know and I will try to locate his grave for you. Your obedient servant, John Henry Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: <pooka@arn.net> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: [VAHANOVE] N. Jones > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1250 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for info on N. Jones. He was in Co. A. 11th Miss Infantry. He > was a private He joined the Confederate Infantry March 1, 1862 at Spring > Dale. Miss. He died at Ashland, Virginia. I am trying to find what the > N. stood for? Could it have been Norman or Norbert? Did he have a wife, > or does anyone know when he was born, or his parents? > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest > List > to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

    12/20/2005 01:32:27
    1. N. Jones
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1250 Message Board Post: Looking for info on N. Jones. He was in Co. A. 11th Miss Infantry. He was a private He joined the Confederate Infantry March 1, 1862 at Spring Dale. Miss. He died at Ashland, Virginia. I am trying to find what the N. stood for? Could it have been Norman or Norbert? Did he have a wife, or does anyone know when he was born, or his parents?

    12/20/2005 09:20:49
    1. Nelson Family of Virginia
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1249 Message Board Post: I currently have a copy of the Descendants of Thomas Nelson of Virginia by Hauk, from which I will do lookups. This has many, but not all, branches of this family. Thanks Elaine

    12/19/2005 03:51:21
    1. CROSS, RICHARD/JOSEPH
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CROSS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VBC.2ACI/1248 Message Board Post: I am looking for the parents of Richard Cross born 1772. He married Mary Lake 1796 & came to Harrison Co. VA (WV) early 1800's. His brother Joseph married Mary Yates and also settled in Harrison Co. Joseph died early 1800's.Richard died 1854. Any help appreciated.

    12/12/2005 03:09:20
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] Taylor family
    2. Diane S
    3. John - Well I have vindicated my Ga. ancestors by moving back to Virginia - in fact, within 'spitting' distance of you... I am in Powhatan County, not too far a leap from Orange, Hanover, etc. and I have neglected working this well researched line far too long... most of my family originated or stayed in Virginia long enough to call it 'home', and I have come 'home' for them! I would be interested in seeing if I have connected the dots correctly - I had so much advice so early in my quest, and not knowing anything and feeling very 'dumb' for asking for records, I just thanked my cousins for their hard work and entered the data... never wanting to question. My father's family, the Stark line, is from Hanover, and old Col. John Starke was the Col. of the Hanover Militia during the Revolution - granted more a 'title' of respect, still he had to have a lot of friends to be given this position. He was also a member of the committee of safety, and that helped too. All my families, so far, I have traced back to 17th century Virginia or Maryland - a couple came over with William Penn, a Quaker few who ! did not stay in the religion very long, Butler and Ballenger to name two, perhaps Bond - but haven't a clue - yet. They say here in Virginia, if one is related to the Taylor's, they are related to everyone who is fortunate enough to trace their roots back here... ;-) I am beginning to believe it! Of course the Herndon's and Pendleton and Gaines families were all well represented! Have you been down to Orange to see that wonderful little park? Diane Diane, It is the same line. The Taylor Family and the Pendleton Family were pretty tight even when they lived in England before coming to the Colonies. As cousins they intermarried to preserve the land holdings. The Orange county line evolved from Colonel George Taylor and seemed to move eastward. The John Taylor of Caroline line was related - John Taylor of Caroline was raised by his uncle Edmund Pendleton. John Taylor married Lucy Penn (daughter of the signer) and their descendants pretty much moved south to Hanover, & Louisa County County. Thanks for sharing, John Henry Taylor

    12/10/2005 10:32:26
    1. Re: [VAHANOVE] Taylor family
    2. JOHN TAYLOR
    3. Diane, It is the same line. The Taylor Family and the Pendleton Family were pretty tight even when they lived in England before coming to the Colonies. As cousins they intermarried to preserve the land holdings. The Orange county line evolved from Colonel George Taylor and seemed to move eastward. The John Taylor of Caroline line was related - John Taylor of Caroline was raised by his uncle Edmund Pendleton. John Taylor married Lucy Penn (daughter of the signer) and their descendants pretty much moved south to Hanover, & Louisa County County. Thanks for sharing, John Henry Taylor johnhenrytaylor@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane S" <dsanfilippo303@adelphia.net> To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] Taylor family > John - > My Taylor's wound up in Elbert County, Ga. when Mary Ann Gaines b. 1742 > Orange County, Va. married Captain Edward Herndon. b. 1738 Orange County, > Va. > She was the daughter of James Gaines b. 1710 and Mary Pendleton b. 1717. > > Mary was the daughter of Henry Pendleton b. 1683 Old Rappahannock County, > and > > Mary Bishop Taylor b. 1688 Caroline County. was the daughter of Col. James > Taylor I b. 1634/5 and his 2nd wife, Mary Bishop Gregory b. 1665. > > Thus, my Taylor line is pretty far back, but its still there. I was in > Orange County not too long ago and parked in front of a delightful little > park in memory of this Taylor family. > > The tentacles have stretched far and wide! > Diane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JOHN TAYLOR > To: VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] 32 graves unearthed next to Wal-Mart > > > Beth, > > Most all of us Virginia Taylors started out in Carlisle England to New > Kent, > King & Queen, Essex, and migrated to Caroline, Hanover, Louisa, > Goochland, > and Orange County. A good number of them moved to Kentucky after rec. > land > warrants, and a good number moved to North Carolina. The other 90 % of > us > stayed right here in Virginia. Most of us descended from James Taylor > 1st > or his two brothers. James Taylor 1st died in 1698 and had 13 children. > As > you probably already know, we Taylors bred like rabbits and married our > cousins, hence keeping the lands intact. Let me know the names of you > Essex > County Taylors and I will see how they tie in. > > Take Care, > > John Henry Taylor > > My E-Mail address is johnhenrytaylor@comcast.net > 729 Royal Crescent Drive > Richmond, Virginia 23236 > Home Ph # 804-794-0704 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <EMAMAMAX@aol.com> > To: <VAHANOVE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] 32 graves unearthed next to Wal-Mart > > > > This note is to John Henry Taylor who sent a response concerning the > > unearthed graves in Hanover County. > > > > I wondered where your TAYLOR's are from? > > > > Mine are out of King & Queen County, moved to Essex for a bit, then on > to > > Middlesex. > > > > Would like to know if your Taylor's are connected to mine. > > > > Beth Maxwell > > > > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > > political > > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > flames, > > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > > removal. > > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the > Digest List > to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: > 12/9/2005 > > > > ==== VAHANOVE Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hanover Co., VA mailing list, send > only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to VAHANOVE-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest > List > to VAHANOVE-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

    12/10/2005 11:41:01