This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jAC.2ACE/538.2.1.1 Message Board Post: While not my direct line, Joseph, Leonard and Henry B. CARR were the brothers of my gr gr gr grandfather, Martin Luther Carr, all born in area that became HARDY CO VA, or GRANT WV now. Blackburn and Bonham may have come into family in VA, if not, in IL. Davis, Creamer/Cramer, Shook, Grubb, Alexander, Teeter, Hand, and others came from VA. Phillips, Cox, Wilderman, Rittenhouse, TAte, Barker, Smith, Higgins, Garrett, and more came into in ST.CLAIR IL or counties they kids moved to. Allens were in IL and OH. White in VA. Some may have been from IN. Sauers/Sowers, Suet/ Sweet, SHORT, GARRISON, McComb /McComas, McBride, Hutson, and more came into ours in JASPER CO IL. My son, who was a Johnson(gr grandfathr William from ENGLAND) who was engaged to a PAUL, whose folks were from WAYNE and she lives there now. She married an ALLEN from Xenia IL. We also had WHITESIDES & WHITECHURCH, HALBERT, MOORE, WOODS, and others, some from MONROE IL, some from ST.CLAIR. We also had WOODS from OH & IN. While not related to Rev. David Badgely, he is related to my sisters husband, who is a HAND/HANDY/HANDLEY/HADLEY. I have both HANDS & BADGELY, with VALENTINE back to early 1700's in NJ & NY. WRIGHT is on both my mom & dad's sides. Also COOK/KOCH. Joseph, Henry B. & Leonard came to IL in 1798 to New Design MONROE CO IL. Joseph & Henry moved to ST.CLAIR 1803. Joseph had sons, 4 best known are Abner, married 1st a PHILLIPS, Jacob, married Nancy COX, Conrad married a PHILLIPS, I think the 4th son was Henry C, I forget who he married, there were other sons also, and sisters, Phebe married a Wilderman, Sarah? married 1st Henry WILDERMAN, 2nd Robert Higgins, Hannah married a HIGGINS, another married a SMITH, . This was the 1st generation there through Joseph. I don't have Henry B.s family straight yet, and Conrads kids I have, and his daughter Mary married Nelson BARKER. Info on my broken computer. Some lived in Smithton. They also married POTTERS and THOMPSONS. The Fergusons, Anderson, Morris/Morrison, Temple, a few more Irish surnames, Tates, Bennet, and such came in the next generation I believe. We also have TERRELL which is sometimes translated from German Script as FERREL/FARRELL. I am sure I am fo! rgeting a few. Clorisa married John GARRISON, one of JACOB & Nancy Cox CARRS daughters married HALBERT, who married UNDERWOOD after she died. I know a few of Conrads boys went to WHITE/POPE/GALLITEN/HARDIN & FULTON CO.'s in there live-time. A couple were in Blackhawk Wars with WHITESIDES. I know HIGGINS & SMITH were in MARION & CLAY CO and I believe ended up in CRAWFORD, JASPER, and surrounding counties. Some in WABASH were Osborns and Breese went. Osborns were in NY & NJ with HANDS 1695. Also SYKES/SIKES, STITES, WRIGHT, STUBBS, and more. My computer is broke, and all my hard-copy is in storage as I live in 1 room now. Joseph Carr and his kids seem to be the most recognized. HAND ended up in Greenfield GREENE IL. Do any of these sound familiar? GINNY 2 at ginnynumbertwo@yahoo.com PLEASE USE THIS ADDRESS.