Pam- I am at a brick wall with the Carr line as well. Would you mind copying me on anything you get from your query to list that isn't otherwise posted to the list. I have not forgotten that I promised to e-mail you an image of Matilda. I am still trying to get someone to scan it for me. Sorry to be out of touch for so long. Thanks! -Don Don Lorton 2060 Airport Road Penhook, VA 24137