There was no West Virginia in 1860. It did not become West Virginia until 1863.

In a message dated 6/1/99 11:09:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, you wrote>> > Gasp! As a native of Giles County and a Southerner, I can tell you that > Giles County was NEVER a part of West Virginia. and more's the pity... [sorry, just have to defend my West "by God" Virginia ;-)

Does anyone know who Owen Conley is. He apparently travelled with Joseph Rowe to Knox or Warren Co., IL (1830).

Nancy, There were and are many Altizer's in Montgomery and Floyd Counties, which are close to Giles. You also may want to check Monroe. If you find your HOBBS, let me know. I'm always trying to connect another one :-) Bill Hobbs Pam Kerschner wrote: > Nancy, > > Sorry, I found no reference to Annabelle Virginia Hobbs or > David C. Altizer in the Giles County Virginia 1860 Annotated > Census, Giles County Virginia History - Families (Vol. I) or Vol. II. > > Good luck in your search, > Pam Kerschner > > ==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/

Nancy, Sorry, I found no reference to Annabelle Virginia Hobbs or David C. Altizer in the Giles County Virginia 1860 Annotated Census, Giles County Virginia History - Families (Vol. I) or Vol. II. Good luck in your search, Pam Kerschner

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Gasp! As a native of Giles County and a Southerner, I can tell you that Giles County was NEVER a part of West Virginia. Actually part of Monroe County was used to form Giles (unless it was Mercer County, but I think Monroe- I'm doing this from memory). Monroe and Mercer Counties are now in West Virginia. BUT that was in 1806, long before there was a West Virginia. Hope this clears things up for you. Mike Fletcher

Could any one tell me if Giles County was a part of West VA. in 1860 Thanks Bobby

Could you please check for family of Annabelle Virginia Hobbs records bet. 1860 and 1870. I do not know her parents or siblings names. She is mmy grandmother. Perhaps even marriage records would give parents name. She married David C. Altizer probably abt. 1880. Thank you so much. nancy in florida

Thank You Pam!! All your information helped alot. I appreciate all your work. Maybe I can return the favor sometime. -----Original Message----- From: Pam Kerschner <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Mary Margaret Johnston & Isaac Edward Conley Brenda, In the 1860 Annotated Giles County Virginia census, I found the following related entries: 55 $ - /$60 Allen Conley, 30, VA Martha, 24 Mary, 11/12 Allen md Martha Diamond, 14 May 1858, d/o Calvin & Lucinda (Diamond) Diamond, Allen, d/o John & Mary Connelly. 102 $ - /$ - Andrew Hughs, 38, Farm Tenant, VA Lidia, 25 Thomas J., 6 Milton, 5 Julia, 3 Delia, 1 Andrew md Lydia Burton, 24 Jun 1851, d/o Elias & Edith (Perdue) Burton. Lydia d. 17 Jun 1876, 50 yrs., Lunacy. Elias Burton md Edith Perdue, 25 Sep 1830. Elias, Will 8 Apr 1843, probated Oct 1843. Thomas J. md Mary O. Conley, 21 Aug 1877, d/o Skidmore & Alice (Muncey) Conley. 106 $2000/$400 Thomas Wilburn, 39, Farmer, VA Druzilla, 36 Elbert, 8 John M., 6 Nancy, 3 Mary E., 1 Thomas md Druzilla Thompson Hughes, 7 Feb 1852, d/o Reuben & Margaret (Thompson) Hughes. Thomas, d/o Richard & Latisha (Thompson) Wilburn. Thomas d. 15 Jan 1892, 72 yrs. Druzilla d. 1 Aug 1892, 64 yrs. Thomas' Will 12 Jan 1892, probated 1892, mentions wife Druzilla, children: William E., Thomas, John M., Winton, Mary, Nancy Jane, & Sarah V. Peters. John M. md Sarah Conley, 25 Mar 1875, d/o Skidmore & Aisly Conley. Nancy md Francis M. Viers, 23 Dec 1879, s/o John & Elvira Viers, b. Pulaski Co. Mary E. md Jacob H. Carper, 9 Nov 1875, s/o John & Sarah Carper. 115 $ -/$310 Skidmore Conley, 40, Farm tenant, VA Elsie, 40 John W., 18 James C., 17 Emeatta, 14 Samuel F., 10 Matilda E., 8 Mary, 5 Sarah, 2 Skidmore md Alice Munsey, 20 Nov 1840, d/o Samuel & Elizabeth (Simpkins) Munsey. Skidmore, s/o John & Mary (Munsey) Conley. Elsie d. 5 Jul 1885, 68 yrs. James C. killed 25 Jul 1864 in Civil War. Samuel F. md (1) Hannah Haskett, 24 Nov 1872, d/o Isaac & Martha Haskett, b. Randolph Co. NC; (2) Eliza J. Whittaker, 2 Feb 1893. Sarah md John M. Wilbern, 25 Mar 1875, s/o Thomas & Druzcilla (Hughs) Wilbern. Matilda E. md William Munnay, 9 Aug 1877, widower, s/o Edward & Polly Munnay, b. Orange Co. NC. Mary md Thos. J. Hughes, 21 Aug 1877, s/o Andrew J. & Lydia (Burton) Hughes. 118 $4000/$508 William Conley, 42, Farmer, VA Mary Conley, 77 Housekeeper Narcissa Conley, 25, Domestic John Muncey, 16, Farm Laborer James W. Conley, 16, Farm Laborer William, s/o John & Mary (Muncey) Conley, did not marry; he died 23 Oct 1885, Consumption. John Conley md Mary Muncey, 18 Oct 1803, Montgomery Co. VA. John & Mary Conley in Giles 1850 Census; John 75, Mary 65. Narcissa md John Crain, 7 Apr 1870, s/o Thomas & Catherine Crain, b. Pittsylvania Co. VA. 854 $1000/$100 (In Bland Co VA 1870 Census) Samuel Muncey, 73, Farmer, VA Elizabeth, 72 Tunis Muncey, 27 Mary C. Muncey, 18 Samuel md Elizabeth Simpkins, 8 Apr 1817, d/o William & Sarah (Dorin) Simpkins. Samuel b. 7 Nov 1786, s/o Holton & Elsie (Layne) Muncey. Holton md Alice Layne, 4 Mar 1776, d/o Tunis & Margaret (Van Pelt) Layne. Holton d. 1830 Wythe Co. VA; Alice (Elsie) d. 28 Aug 1855, 96/-/3 yrs. in Giles. Alcie, d/o Samuel, md Skidmore Conley, 30 Nov 1840, s/o John & Mary (Muncey) Conley. Tunis Muncy md Mary C. Clark, 1 Dec 1859, d/o James & Mahala (Folden) Clark, b. Monroe Co. (now) WV. Tunis was in Co. F, 8th Regiment, Cavalry Brigade, in Civil War. 899 $ - /$ - John Conley, 50, Farm Laborer, VA Chloe, 52 Isaac, 21 John L.,18 Susannah, 75 Superannuated Nancy Conley, 60 John md Chloe Conley, 8 Jan 1833 by Rev. Landon Duncan; he charged $2.00. John, s/o John & Mary (Munsey) Conley. Isaac Conley md (1) Eliza J. French, 19 Mar 1866, d/o Gordon & Mary French of Mercer Co. WV; (2) Annie Conley, 27 Jul 1887, d/o Allan & Martha Conley. Gordon French was killed 22 Jul 1865, 49/1/- at Kernstown, VA in Civil War, s/o Reuben & Naomi (Meador) French who md 29 Feb 1812, s/o James & Susannah (Hughes) French. Reuden, Will 9 Apr 1827, recorded May 1827. John L. Conley d. 12 Apr `888, 48 yrs., Brights Disease, unmarried.

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Brenda, In the 1860 Annotated Giles County Virginia census, I found the following related entries: 55 $ - /$60 Allen Conley, 30, VA Martha, 24 Mary, 11/12 Allen md Martha Diamond, 14 May 1858, d/o Calvin & Lucinda (Diamond) Diamond, Allen, d/o John & Mary Connelly. 102 $ - /$ - Andrew Hughs, 38, Farm Tenant, VA Lidia, 25 Thomas J., 6 Milton, 5 Julia, 3 Delia, 1 Andrew md Lydia Burton, 24 Jun 1851, d/o Elias & Edith (Perdue) Burton. Lydia d. 17 Jun 1876, 50 yrs., Lunacy. Elias Burton md Edith Perdue, 25 Sep 1830. Elias, Will 8 Apr 1843, probated Oct 1843. Thomas J. md Mary O. Conley, 21 Aug 1877, d/o Skidmore & Alice (Muncey) Conley. 106 $2000/$400 Thomas Wilburn, 39, Farmer, VA Druzilla, 36 Elbert, 8 John M., 6 Nancy, 3 Mary E., 1 Thomas md Druzilla Thompson Hughes, 7 Feb 1852, d/o Reuben & Margaret (Thompson) Hughes. Thomas, d/o Richard & Latisha (Thompson) Wilburn. Thomas d. 15 Jan 1892, 72 yrs. Druzilla d. 1 Aug 1892, 64 yrs. Thomas' Will 12 Jan 1892, probated 1892, mentions wife Druzilla, children: William E., Thomas, John M., Winton, Mary, Nancy Jane, & Sarah V. Peters. John M. md Sarah Conley, 25 Mar 1875, d/o Skidmore & Aisly Conley. Nancy md Francis M. Viers, 23 Dec 1879, s/o John & Elvira Viers, b. Pulaski Co. Mary E. md Jacob H. Carper, 9 Nov 1875, s/o John & Sarah Carper. 115 $ -/$310 Skidmore Conley, 40, Farm tenant, VA Elsie, 40 John W., 18 James C., 17 Emeatta, 14 Samuel F., 10 Matilda E., 8 Mary, 5 Sarah, 2 Skidmore md Alice Munsey, 20 Nov 1840, d/o Samuel & Elizabeth (Simpkins) Munsey. Skidmore, s/o John & Mary (Munsey) Conley. Elsie d. 5 Jul 1885, 68 yrs. James C. killed 25 Jul 1864 in Civil War. Samuel F. md (1) Hannah Haskett, 24 Nov 1872, d/o Isaac & Martha Haskett, b. Randolph Co. NC; (2) Eliza J. Whittaker, 2 Feb 1893. Sarah md John M. Wilbern, 25 Mar 1875, s/o Thomas & Druzcilla (Hughs) Wilbern. Matilda E. md William Munnay, 9 Aug 1877, widower, s/o Edward & Polly Munnay, b. Orange Co. NC. Mary md Thos. J. Hughes, 21 Aug 1877, s/o Andrew J. & Lydia (Burton) Hughes. 118 $4000/$508 William Conley, 42, Farmer, VA Mary Conley, 77 Housekeeper Narcissa Conley, 25, Domestic John Muncey, 16, Farm Laborer James W. Conley, 16, Farm Laborer William, s/o John & Mary (Muncey) Conley, did not marry; he died 23 Oct 1885, Consumption. John Conley md Mary Muncey, 18 Oct 1803, Montgomery Co. VA. John & Mary Conley in Giles 1850 Census; John 75, Mary 65. Narcissa md John Crain, 7 Apr 1870, s/o Thomas & Catherine Crain, b. Pittsylvania Co. VA. 854 $1000/$100 (In Bland Co VA 1870 Census) Samuel Muncey, 73, Farmer, VA Elizabeth, 72 Tunis Muncey, 27 Mary C. Muncey, 18 Samuel md Elizabeth Simpkins, 8 Apr 1817, d/o William & Sarah (Dorin) Simpkins. Samuel b. 7 Nov 1786, s/o Holton & Elsie (Layne) Muncey. Holton md Alice Layne, 4 Mar 1776, d/o Tunis & Margaret (Van Pelt) Layne. Holton d. 1830 Wythe Co. VA; Alice (Elsie) d. 28 Aug 1855, 96/-/3 yrs. in Giles. Alcie, d/o Samuel, md Skidmore Conley, 30 Nov 1840, s/o John & Mary (Muncey) Conley. Tunis Muncy md Mary C. Clark, 1 Dec 1859, d/o James & Mahala (Folden) Clark, b. Monroe Co. (now) WV. Tunis was in Co. F, 8th Regiment, Cavalry Brigade, in Civil War. 899 $ - /$ - John Conley, 50, Farm Laborer, VA Chloe, 52 Isaac, 21 John L.,18 Susannah, 75 Superannuated Nancy Conley, 60 John md Chloe Conley, 8 Jan 1833 by Rev. Landon Duncan; he charged $2.00. John, s/o John & Mary (Munsey) Conley. Isaac Conley md (1) Eliza J. French, 19 Mar 1866, d/o Gordon & Mary French of Mercer Co. WV; (2) Annie Conley, 27 Jul 1887, d/o Allan & Martha Conley. Gordon French was killed 22 Jul 1865, 49/1/- at Kernstown, VA in Civil War, s/o Reuben & Naomi (Meador) French who md 29 Feb 1812, s/o James & Susannah (Hughes) French. Reuden, Will 9 Apr 1827, recorded May 1827. John L. Conley d. 12 Apr `888, 48 yrs., Brights Disease, unmarried.

My mailbox is being overrun with geneaological email searches. Thank you. Elaine

Pam, thank you for your time. I do have Issac's father who was born @ 1853. His name was Samual F. Conley. The only thing I have for his parents are Their partial names as S. and Alice Conley. Again thanks for the look-ups. -----Original Message----- From: Pam Kerschner <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 7:58 AM Subject: Mary Margaret Johnston & Isaac Edward Conley >Brenda, > >Sorry, I can't help you with Mary Margaret Johnston and >Isaac Edward Conley; they were born too late to be included >in the 1860 census. If you have ancestors who would be in the >1860 census, I would gladly check for them. > >Pam > > >==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/ > > > >

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Brenda, Sorry, I can't help you with Mary Margaret Johnston and Isaac Edward Conley; they were born too late to be included in the 1860 census. If you have ancestors who would be in the 1860 census, I would gladly check for them. Pam

Yes, I have dates. Mary was born on April 5, 1899. Issac was born June 26,1893. They were married on July 31, 1916. Issac died on November 7,1964, and Mary died on February 25, 1967. I was just talking to my Mother today and she was saying she remembered Issac's Mother dying around Christmas and they buried her on Christmas Day. Thank you for taking time and looking this up for me. It will be a big help if I can get Mary's parents names. -----Original Message----- From: Pam Kerschner <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, May 30, 1999 8:40 PM Subject: Re: 1860 Giles County, Virginia Annotated Census >Brenda Cumbee, > >Do you have any dates on Mary Margaret Johnston >and Isaac Edward Conley? That would make it >easier for me to know if I have found the correct family. > >Looking forward to helping you, >Pam Kerschner > > >==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/ > > > >

Yes, I do. I have it as April 5, 1899. This is from her personal Bible that my Mother has. I'd appreciate any information you have. I have her Brothers as George Johnston, Wilmer Johnston, Harvey Johnston and Lacy Johnston. A Sister as Ethel Johnston. A Half-brother as Charles Duncan, and a Half-sister as Sadie Duncan. She died on Feb. 25,1967. Thank you for your interest. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, May 30, 1999 12:34 AM Subject: Re: The Giles, Allegheny and Jackson Artillery >Hi Brenda, do you have a date of birth for your grandmother? >Bobby > > >==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/ > > > >

Brenda Cumbee, Do you have any dates on Mary Margaret Johnston and Isaac Edward Conley? That would make it easier for me to know if I have found the correct family. Looking forward to helping you, Pam Kerschner

Elke Hall wrote: > > Rick, I believe that the 'old man' was John Lybrook. He died in December > 1837,on 26 Dec 1837, the Giles Co. court ordered his estate appraised and it > was probably sold in January. The way I read the letter, it seems the > Lybrooks did not like Joseph Atkins. Apparently Betsy and Sally lived in > their father's house for a while, he must have been hard to get along with > (when he went drinking with Col. Snidow?). (They lived a dreadful life > before and after his death). Joseph Atkins asked Betsy to marry him, she > got all her wedding garments ready and then he changed his mind. > After the sale of John Lybrook's estate, Sally moved in with her brother and > Betsy moved to her sister Evalina, who was married to Josiah Lumpkins. > Joseph Atkins visited Betsy there and they were married at her sister and > brother-in-law's house. The Atkins' had a big party, but the Lybrooks were > not invited. > > Do you have more info on Betsy and Joseph Atkins? Elke I kind of concluded that "the old man" must be John Lybrook - thanks for confirming that. 1) Do you think that "Betsey" is Elizabeth? All the pieces seem to fit together, but I'm hesitant to make that assumption. 2) I'm curious as to the meaning of "spent considerable time dressing Betsey". Could that mean that Betsey had a fondness for clothing and her father, John (or someone else), gave her a lot of money for clothing? Thanks again, Rick Hunter