JoAnne, Couldn't find anything on Eli or Mary. Here are the Hudsons that are listed: Arnold Arthur Chapman Creed Creed P. Crete Daniel Ellis Emily George Gladys l Isaac Jacob James James D Jean Jennie K. John John Easley Joseph Juanita Lizzie Lizzie E. Lulu Madison Mary(14 years old on the 1870 census) Nancy Paschal Patrick Roland Susan William Willie Wm Wm M I would suggest that you go to the library there and look at the copies that they have. I also heard they have some for sale there. The Giles Research Group have both Volumes for sale,but I only have a mailing address for them. I have read on the mail list that the Historical Society there has a lot of information and are very helpful, but I am sorry I do not have their address. Maybe someone else on the list might have it. Sorry I got your hopes up and then wasn't able to find any information. Good luck in your search. Phyllis

Do you know where I can find Giles County census online??? Thanks.

HiYa Carole! 1840 GILES COUNTY CENSUS RECORDS There is a Thomas Harris listed with these listings: 1 child in the 10-15 age group MALE 1 person in the 70-80 age group MALE 1 person in the 40-50 age group FEMALE 1 person in the 60-70 age group FEMALE SOURCE: GILES HISTORY II Page 39 ====================================================== "Carole M. Barger" wrote: > Is there anyone who could do a lookup for me on the 1840 Giles County > Census? I am looking for any information on Thomas Harris and his wife > Catherine. They were married in 1831. Thomas was born abt. 1763 and > Catherine was born abt. 1800. She was the daughter of Stephen and Phebe > McPherson. I would really appreciate any information anyone might have on > either of these families.

I have their marriage date of Feb. 9, 1843 in Giles Co, VA. And that she was d/o Isaac Epling & Annie Leggerwood. I have 8 siblings listed for her. And then Isaac was s/o Paul Epling, alias John Miller. Marilee ADKINS, BALLARD, BATEMAN, BLANKENSHIP, BROOKING, BROYLES, BUCKLAND, CARR, CECIL, COOK, COX, ELLISON, FARLEY, FLESHMAN, GOODWIN, HALSTEAD, HARRY, HARVEY, HOUCHINS, KESSINGER, KIRKPATRICK, LILLY, LIVELY, MADDY, MANN, MCGHEE, MEADOR/ MEADOWS, MICHAEL, MILLER, PAYNE, RAMSEY, SIMS, STEP, THOMPSON, TUGGLE, WADE, WHITTEN, WILEY, WISEMAN, WILHOIT, WYANT, WYKLE, most of Va/Wv area. "Don't sit under the family tree with anyone else but me!" ==== Richard Epling wrote: > Anything on the John Price, born about 1816, who married Margaret Epling in > Montgomery or Giles Co. in 1842? > > Richard > > ==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/

Hi Phyllis, would you please see if there is any mention of Caudills in your book? thanks, steve brown

Do you happen to know of a man named Gar Ganoe/Gunno from the Rich Creek area?

Oh my gosh - I just lost my breath!!! I am desperately trying to find some info on my grandparents, Eli C. Hudson and Mary Matilda (Hawkins) Hudson (he was born in 1882 and she in 1884) - I have some info on him but ABSOLUTELY nothing on her - it is as if she never existed. I've heard she was born in Sparta, NC - but perhaps also in/around Galax, VA. If I could just find something on her parents/siblings, I would be so happy. There is a rumor that her father's name was Jeff Hawkins, and also that she was related somehow to Davey Crockett. I still have an uncle that lives in Rich Creek and I love it there. We'll be going to Beckley, WV next week and I hope to check some records. We'll only be about an hour away from Rich Creek - do you know if the books are still for sale somewhere? Thank you so much - JoAnne

Jo Anne, There are Hudsons mentioned in both Volumes of the books Give me some ideas of first names and I will see what it says about them. Phyllis

Phyllis - could you see if there is anything on "Hudson" families in your book? Thank you - JoAnne - I'd kinda like to know before I try to get a copy

Thanks so much, but I've already checked that source. Please take a look at the section in the Giles History Vol. 1, which lists the children of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale Lucas, there are only 3 children listed. If you visit the LDS Ancestral File site, and look at the family of Thomas and Hannah Hale Lucas, there are 12 children listed for the family. Something is amiss! I appreciate you posting the information you found. Part of the problem is that there were at least 3 William Lucas's that lived in the area of Giles County, and Montgomery County Virginia at the same time, and it is hard to keep them all straight in the records. I do not have any hard feelings against the authors of the Giles County History, nor against the people submitting the information to the Ancestral File. Everyone is entitled to a few mistakes! I just want to find enough documents so that I can submit a correction to the Ancestral File. A Lucas correspondent recently sent me a copy of an old family chart, which measures about 18 inches by 24 inches. On the bottom of the chart it says "Compiled by Chas. Deforest Lucas copied by Rod Lucas." The old chart answered a lot of my questions, but not all of them! The chart only lists the descendants of Captain John Lucas, and the other branches of the Lucas family are not listed. So, the chart DID list "my" William Lucas, with the correct parents, and the correct wife! Now, if I can just learn some more about the other William Lucas. (supposedly born 1803, in Montgomery County, Virginia, the son of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale.) Thanks for pitching in with your information to try and help me out. Lottie Hendricks Mesa, Arizona -----Original Message----- From: Jackie <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, August 01, 1999 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Hannah Hale Lucas >Hi, Don't know if this helps or not? But from the "Giles County >Virginia"....history-families....on page 19....the confusion could >be?...there is a listing of PARKER LUCAS...then next to the listing is >WILLIAM LUCAS. About Parker Lucas....son of Charles and Kathleen (Annie ) >Kawood...d.wp. May 1835, married Margaret------?said to be the daughter of >Michael and Margaret (Killian ?) Price, Children; then it list the >children.....several. VIII. Thomas (probably) ma. 3-28-1801 HANNAH HALE. >Children; 1. EMMALINE married, 9-26-1831 PETER BELLER and 2. MARY >m.11-16-1825 JESSE ADAMS. If you would like the rest of the names of their >children I'd be happy to send them....hope this is what you are looking for? >Also there's this...LUCAS, HANNAH; (death) January 28, 1860 (P.S. I see >William Lucas, married an Elizabeth Price....she was b. ca. 1750. d. after >1840...cenus Kanawha County...WVa. 90-100 yrs. old. Jackie [email protected] >-----Original Message----- >From: Lee Hendricks ELN <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Sunday, August 01, 1999 3:34 PM >Subject: Fw: Hannah Hale Lucas > > >>Thanks for the idea, but I have no records of my Lucas family living in >>Indiana. They lived in the Giles County and Montgomery County area in >>Virginia, and thus I'm thinking that the "mystery" Local History book would >>be from that area. >> >>Thanks again for your input. Lottie Hendricks >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Elisi Julia <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: Sunday, August 01, 1999 8:13 AM >>Subject: Fw: Hannah Hale Lucas >> >> >>>There is a New Castle, IN - named for Chief New Castle I think - please >>>don't quote me on that. But there is definitely a New Castle, Indiana. >>>Hope this helps. >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: Lee Hendricks ELN <[email protected]> >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 10:13 PM >>>Subject: Re: Hannah Hale Lucas >>> >>> >>>> Kathy, >>>> >>>> I am so glad to hear from a descendant of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale >>>> Lucas! I am not from their direct line, even though you would think so >>>if >>>> you looked at the LDS Ancestral File. I know this may be confusing, but >>>> I'll try to explain below. >>>> >>>> Someone, at some time, submitted information to the Ancestral File, >>>listing >>>> a William Lucas as being the son of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale. That >>>> same William Lucas is listed in the Ancestral File as being married to >>>> Esther McKim Carson. >>>> >>>> I have found in my research that there is an error either in the parent >>>> linking, or in the spouse linking, because my 3rd great grandfather, >>>William >>>> B. Lucas, who married Esther McKim Carson was the son of Samuel Lucas >and >>>> Catherine Davis. Not the son of Thomas and Hannah Hale Lucas! >>>> >>>> Have you found a son named William Lucas belonging to the Thomas Lucas >>>> family? I have no argument that Thomas and Hannah Hale Lucas may have >>had >>>a >>>> son named William. In fact, I would welcome further documentation from >>>> anyone who has a source, other than the Ancestral File, which lists >>>> William's name as one of their sons. >>>> >>>> For several years I assumed that the Ancestral File information was >>>correct, >>>> until I started contacting the submitters of the information, and asking >>>> them about their sources. I contacted 3 of the submitters of the >>>> information, and none of them had copies of any documents that they >could >>>> share with me, listing William as one of the sons of Thomas Lucas. >>>> >>>> I wasn't trying to be a stickler, I was just trying to document my >>>pedigree, >>>> and they were not able to help me. The only clue I got was that one of >>>the >>>> submitters of the information told me that she found a book about local >>>> history, which was written sometime before the early 1970's, that >>>> supposedly had info. in it on several generations of the Lucas family. >>>She >>>> said that the local history book stated that Thomas Lucas had a son >named >>>> William. >>>> >>>> Evidently part of the title of the book had the word "Castle" in it. >She >>>> thought it might have been Fin Castle, or New Castle, or something like >>>> that. Does this "ring a bell" with anyone? I don't think it was the >>>> Briefs of Wills and Marriages of Fincastle County, because she made it >>>sound >>>> like the information was typed in narrative form, with a few details >>about >>>> each Lucas family... >>>> >>>> To make a long story short, I had a break through earlier this spring, >>>when >>>> one of my correspondents found a copy of an old letter, written in 1861 >>by >>>> "William Lucas" and "Esther Mc. Lucas" to William's father, Samuel >>>Lucas. >>>> Since then, I have been able to find 3 or 4 additional sources which >>>> indicate that the William Lucas who married Esther McKim Carson was the >>>son >>>> of Samuel Lucas and Catherine Davis. >>>> >>>> Someone needs to make a correction to the Ancestral File and get this >>>> straightened out. I am more than willing to submit a correction >>>> to the Ancestral File, but I thought that as a courtesy to those who >have >>>> already submitted information on this family, that I should try and find >>>out >>>> more information and documentation, before submitting a request for a >>>> correction to be made. >>>> >>>> Would be happy to share Family Group Records, and documentation with any >>>who >>>> are interested in my branch of the Lucas Family. I have not typed >>>> information up regarding the lateral lines of the Lucas family, just my >>>> direct line, which follows: >>>> >>>> Charles Lucas > Captain John Lucas> Samuel Lucas>William B. Lucas >>>>Alexander >>>> Carson Lucas > Martin Luther Lucas> Virda Ellen Lucas... Virda Lucas >was >>>my >>>> grandmother. >>>> >>>> I did find one additional clue in the IGI records of the LDS church. >>>There >>>> is a "William T. Lucas" listed in that source, who is listed as being >the >>>> son of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale Lucas. The 1850 census lists the >>>> middle initial of "my " William Lucas as being "B." Can you, or >anyone >>>> else out there, help me find any source documents on the William T. >>>Lucas? >>>> Or is it just an error that got started 20 or more years ago, that has >>>never >>>> been fixed? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lottie Hendricks >>>> Mesa, Arizona >>>> >>>> >>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Saturday, July 31, 1999 4:54 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Hannah Hale Lucas >>>> >>>> >In a message dated 7/31/99 2:33:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >>>> >[email protected] writes: >>>> > >>>> ><< In it are Hannah Hale and Thomas >>>> > Lucas and a list of their children. There are alot of Lucas' in it >and >>>if >>>> > you want, I will send you all that, I find in it. >> >>>> >Hi Wanda, >>>> > >>>> >I'm a descendant of Thomas and Hannah LUCAS and am interested in what >>you >>>> >have on the LUCAS family.Could you send it to me also ? >>>> > >>>> >Kathy Lucas Bertrem >>>> >[email protected] >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >>>> >Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? >>>> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >>>> Older Giles County Queries are indexed at: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/quindex.html >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >>==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >>The latest Giles County queries are at: >>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Giles >> >> >> > > >==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/ > > >

Wanda, Thanks so much for typing up the information from INCREASE IN PRICES. I would like to re-state my plea to be contacted by any descendants of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale Lucas who might be able to help me out. If you notice in the information found in the INCREASE IN PRICES Thomas and Hannah Hale Lucas are listed as being the parents of 10 children. In the LDS Ancestral File Records, Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale Lucas are listed as being the parents of 12 children. Among the children that are listed for this couple in the Ancestral File is a son, William Lucas. Can anyone who has done research on this family please tell me if you have found any documents which would indicate that Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale Lucas had a son named William? Thank you, Lottie Hendricks Mesa, Arizona -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, August 01, 1999 10:09 AM Subject: Re: Hale/Lucas and Harless Price book >First off the book I got info from is as follows: INCREASE IN PRICES, Some >Descendants of David and Agnes (Hoffman) Price of 17th Century Germany, >compiled by Anne Hayden(Price) Yates and W. Conweay Price, Ph.D. The address >is >Ms. Anne Yates, P.O. Box 2047, Ridgecrest, CA 93556. Price is $39.00. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------ >Hannah Hale daughter of Agnes Price & Thomas Hale born Montgomery Co 1784 >died 1-29-1860 married Montgomery Co 3-28-1801 Thomas Lucas born 1780. > >1. Froun(?) Born 5-29-1801 or 1802 >2. Peggy born 1803 married Zacaharus Lafon >3.Edward born 1805 >4. Charles born 1806 died 7-30-1881 married Sarah? >5. Thomas H. born 1807 married November 1828 Mahala Harless (Thomas H. had a >son named William Samuel born 1832/34 married Nancy S. Lucas) > >6. Isaac born 1810 died 7-8-1866 married 12-20-1839 Elizabeth Lafon >7. Nancy born 1811 married Henry Price >8. Agnes born 1813 married 5-5-1842 Jonathan Bradley >9. Andrew born 1815 married Sarah Lucas >10. Mary Elizabeth born 1824 married William Andrew Williams > > >I hope this helps someone. >Wanda L. Thacker > > > > >==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >Older Giles County Queries are indexed at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/quindex.html > >

I will certainly be looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you again for your help. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 2:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 1840 Census I'll let you know what I find. Joyce ==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/

The G.C.Va.,history book. A William Anderson m. Rebecca Harriss. Surety, William Anderson and Thomas Harriss. Dec. 13,1817. Jesse McPherson and Nancy Harress; Surety,Jesse McPherson and Thomas Harriss. Aug.25,1833. Thomas Samuel Harris 1912-1971 b. Thessalia Church Cem. ---------- Information from the G.C. History Vol.2: 1810 Census: Thomas Harris 2--0/10 male 1--26/40 male 1--0/10 female 1--2/16 female 2--16/20 female 1--26/45 female 1840 census: Thomas Harris 1--15/20 male 1--70/80 male 1--40/50 female 1--60/70 female --- "Carole M. Barger" <[email protected]> wrote: > Is there anyone who could do a lookup for me on the > 1840 Giles County > Census? I am looking for any information on Thomas > Harris and his wife > Catherine. They were married in 1831. Thomas was > born abt. 1763 and > Catherine was born abt. 1800. She was the daughter > of Stephen and Phebe > McPherson. I would really appreciate any > information anyone might have on > either of these families. > > > ==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page > recently? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/ > > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

Thanks for the idea, but I have no records of my Lucas family living in Indiana. They lived in the Giles County and Montgomery County area in Virginia, and thus I'm thinking that the "mystery" Local History book would be from that area. Thanks again for your input. Lottie Hendricks -----Original Message----- From: Elisi Julia <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, August 01, 1999 8:13 AM Subject: Fw: Hannah Hale Lucas >There is a New Castle, IN - named for Chief New Castle I think - please >don't quote me on that. But there is definitely a New Castle, Indiana. >Hope this helps. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Lee Hendricks ELN <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 10:13 PM >Subject: Re: Hannah Hale Lucas > > >> Kathy, >> >> I am so glad to hear from a descendant of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale >> Lucas! I am not from their direct line, even though you would think so >if >> you looked at the LDS Ancestral File. I know this may be confusing, but >> I'll try to explain below. >> >> Someone, at some time, submitted information to the Ancestral File, >listing >> a William Lucas as being the son of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale. That >> same William Lucas is listed in the Ancestral File as being married to >> Esther McKim Carson. >> >> I have found in my research that there is an error either in the parent >> linking, or in the spouse linking, because my 3rd great grandfather, >William >> B. Lucas, who married Esther McKim Carson was the son of Samuel Lucas and >> Catherine Davis. Not the son of Thomas and Hannah Hale Lucas! >> >> Have you found a son named William Lucas belonging to the Thomas Lucas >> family? I have no argument that Thomas and Hannah Hale Lucas may have had >a >> son named William. In fact, I would welcome further documentation from >> anyone who has a source, other than the Ancestral File, which lists >> William's name as one of their sons. >> >> For several years I assumed that the Ancestral File information was >correct, >> until I started contacting the submitters of the information, and asking >> them about their sources. I contacted 3 of the submitters of the >> information, and none of them had copies of any documents that they could >> share with me, listing William as one of the sons of Thomas Lucas. >> >> I wasn't trying to be a stickler, I was just trying to document my >pedigree, >> and they were not able to help me. The only clue I got was that one of >the >> submitters of the information told me that she found a book about local >> history, which was written sometime before the early 1970's, that >> supposedly had info. in it on several generations of the Lucas family. >She >> said that the local history book stated that Thomas Lucas had a son named >> William. >> >> Evidently part of the title of the book had the word "Castle" in it. She >> thought it might have been Fin Castle, or New Castle, or something like >> that. Does this "ring a bell" with anyone? I don't think it was the >> Briefs of Wills and Marriages of Fincastle County, because she made it >sound >> like the information was typed in narrative form, with a few details about >> each Lucas family... >> >> To make a long story short, I had a break through earlier this spring, >when >> one of my correspondents found a copy of an old letter, written in 1861 by >> "William Lucas" and "Esther Mc. Lucas" to William's father, Samuel >Lucas. >> Since then, I have been able to find 3 or 4 additional sources which >> indicate that the William Lucas who married Esther McKim Carson was the >son >> of Samuel Lucas and Catherine Davis. >> >> Someone needs to make a correction to the Ancestral File and get this >> straightened out. I am more than willing to submit a correction >> to the Ancestral File, but I thought that as a courtesy to those who have >> already submitted information on this family, that I should try and find >out >> more information and documentation, before submitting a request for a >> correction to be made. >> >> Would be happy to share Family Group Records, and documentation with any >who >> are interested in my branch of the Lucas Family. I have not typed >> information up regarding the lateral lines of the Lucas family, just my >> direct line, which follows: >> >> Charles Lucas > Captain John Lucas> Samuel Lucas>William B. Lucas >>Alexander >> Carson Lucas > Martin Luther Lucas> Virda Ellen Lucas... Virda Lucas was >my >> grandmother. >> >> I did find one additional clue in the IGI records of the LDS church. >There >> is a "William T. Lucas" listed in that source, who is listed as being the >> son of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale Lucas. The 1850 census lists the >> middle initial of "my " William Lucas as being "B." Can you, or anyone >> else out there, help me find any source documents on the William T. >Lucas? >> Or is it just an error that got started 20 or more years ago, that has >never >> been fixed? >> >> Thanks, >> Lottie Hendricks >> Mesa, Arizona >> >> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Date: Saturday, July 31, 1999 4:54 PM >> Subject: Re: Hannah Hale Lucas >> >> >In a message dated 7/31/99 2:33:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >> >[email protected] writes: >> > >> ><< In it are Hannah Hale and Thomas >> > Lucas and a list of their children. There are alot of Lucas' in it and >if >> > you want, I will send you all that, I find in it. >> >> >Hi Wanda, >> > >> >I'm a descendant of Thomas and Hannah LUCAS and am interested in what you >> >have on the LUCAS family.Could you send it to me also ? >> > >> >Kathy Lucas Bertrem >> >[email protected] >> > >> > >> >==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >> >Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/ >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >> Older Giles County Queries are indexed at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/quindex.html >> > >

From GILES COUNTY VIRGINIA HISTORY AND FAMILIES, Vol 1: " COBURN - Thomas and Cynthia Ford Coburn were the parents of William Thomas Coburn born in Giles County on June 14, 1830. William was a millright in Monroe Co. when he married Sarah Broyles on Jan 1, 1854. Later in life, he became a self-taught doctor and was known as 'Dr. Billy' often making his medicines from herbs. He and Sarah were the parents of 4 sons; Henry B., Alfred Berman, George W., & Allen Green Coburn. George W & Whelhelmina Priddy Coburn were parents of William, Georgia, Lonice B., H. Jenkins, Agnes and Melvina......" I have a picture postcard, ca. 1906 with a distant view of the N&W station at Narrows. If you would like a copy, I can scan it and send it to you. J. Tracy At 02:08 AM 8/1/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Recent email correspondence reminded me that one of the "holes" >in my McKinney line is the identification of the parents of: > >Hamner Jenkins "Jenks" COBURN (1883-1949), md. Cleo McKinney. >He was station agent for the N&W at Narrows VA in the 40s. >His obituary said he had a brother L.C. Coburn, and a sister Mrs. Harry >Burgess (of Chattanooga, TN) > >Children: Lonice Earl, George Fred, and Margaret Louise (Mrs Warren Morris) > >Does anyone know his parents? > >Regards, >Freddie S. > >[email protected] 3448 W. 170th St., Torrance, CA 90504-2402 > > >==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/ >

Is there anyone who could do a lookup for me on the 1840 Giles County Census? I am looking for any information on Thomas Harris and his wife Catherine. They were married in 1831. Thomas was born abt. 1763 and Catherine was born abt. 1800. She was the daughter of Stephen and Phebe McPherson. I would really appreciate any information anyone might have on either of these families.

I'll let you know what I find. Joyce

First off the book I got info from is as follows: INCREASE IN PRICES, Some Descendants of David and Agnes (Hoffman) Price of 17th Century Germany, compiled by Anne Hayden(Price) Yates and W. Conweay Price, Ph.D. The address is Ms. Anne Yates, P.O. Box 2047, Ridgecrest, CA 93556. Price is $39.00. Here is what I found on the Hales that were asked about. John Michael Price baptized in Roman Catholic Church in Offenbach, Germany 10-9-1718 and died Montgomery Co., between July and October 1802. His wife was named Margaretha Killian born 1721 Rheinland, Pfaltz, Germany d/o Andreas Killian who immigrated to Philadelphia 23 Sept 1732. She was mentioned in his will, "I give my son-in-law Michael Price, husband of my daughter Margaret, one shilling sterling." The book Increase in Prices by Anne Hayden(Price) Yates and W.Conway Price Ph.D, says that in Outlines of Montgomery County Families by H.L. Price wrote that the first tract of land acquired by purchase in the present Montgomery Co was deeded to Philip Harless and Michael Price and consisted of 600 ac more or less on lower Tom's Creek. Children: 1.David born 1744 married 1. Elizabeth Prillaman 2. Hannah? 2.Michael Jr.born 1748 married Esther Francisco 3. Alexander born 1765 married Philipina ? 4. Margaret born abt 1750 married Parker Lucas 5. George born 1752 married Rachel Shields Bender 6.Agnes born abt 1759 married Thomas Hale 7.Jacob born abt 1760 married Johannah(Hannah) Harless 8.John Henry born 12-2-1791 married Elizabeth Ann Grissom 9. Christian married 5-3-1794 Nancy Grissom 10. Elizabeth born abt 1761 married William Lucas Generation 2 Margaret Price d/o John Michael Price born abt 1750 married Parker Lucas Sr. of Sinking Creek Giles Co,VA probably son of Capt. John Lucas who was stationed at Dunkard's Bottom 1765 son of Charles and Kathleen Kawood Lucas . Parker was a minister and a member of C apt John Lucas' Co of Militia. Children: 1. Price Lucas married Giles Co., 1-26-1815 2. Parker Jr. 3. David married Montgomery Co 11-7-1809 Marie/Mary (Polly) Hale 4. Susanna married Giles Co 11-28-1835 Charles Straley 5. William died Oct 1820 married Montgomery VA 8-3-1802 Sarah johnston 6. Charles died 1808/09 married Ann 6. Thomas married 3-28-1801 Hannah Hale 7. Margaret married Giles Co 2-26-1811 Isiah Hale Agnes Price d/o John Michael born Augusta Co abt 1759 will pro Montgomery co 9-6-1841 married Montgomery Co 1781. Thomas Hale born Montgomery Co abt 1755 will Pro Craig's Crk July 1802 lived on Tom's Crk. 1. William born abt 1788 married Montgomery Co March 11 or 18 1811 Catherine Snidow d/o John. 2. Jacob born 8-20-1781 3. Job born 9-5-1796 4. Elizabeth born Montgomery 1786 married Montgomery Co November 7 or 12 1801 Edward Lucas died 1860 s/o Charles Jr. and Ann 5. Hannah born 1784 married Thomas Hale(above) 6. Mary(Polly) born abt 1782/90 married Montgomery Co 11-7-1809 David Lucas(above) 7. Margaret born Abt 1792 married Montgomery Co 4-10-1812 Robert Ault 8. Nancy born abt 1798 married Sept 12 or 29 1826 Peter Bowles 9. Thomas Jr. married Giles Co 8-10-1811 Mary Agnes Lucas Elizabeth Price daughter of John Michael Price born abt 1761 died after 1840 married Montgomery Co 10-2-1782 William Lucas born Pittsylvania Co 7-25-1749 died Berkeley, Cabell or Logan Co.,WV 1834 son of Charles and Kathleen Kawood Lucas. William served as Pvt in Revolutionary War. 1. Nancy 2. Ralph 3.John married 12-7-1807 Mary(Polly)Fry born 1788 d/o George Jr. and Keziah 4. Mary married Montgomery Co 6-5-1789 John Cline 5. William Jr. born 1796 married 10-17-1815 Keziah Fry died before 1840 d/o George Jr. and Keziah 6. Rachel married 6-8-1816 James Chapman Hannah Hale daughter of Agnes Price & Thomas Hale born Montgomery Co 1784 died 1-29-1860 married Montgomery Co 3-28-1801 Thomas Lucas born 1780. 1. Froun(?) Born 5-29-1801 or 1802 2. Peggy born 1803 married Zacaharus Lafon 3.Edward born 1805 4. Charles born 1806 died 7-30-1881 married Sarah? 5. Thomas H. born 1807 married November 1828 Mahala Harless (Thomas H. had a son named William Samuel born 1832/34 married Nancy S. Lucas) 6. Isaac born 1810 died 7-8-1866 married 12-20-1839 Elizabeth Lafon 7. Nancy born 1811 married Henry Price 8. Agnes born 1813 married 5-5-1842 Jonathan Bradley 9. Andrew born 1815 married Sarah Lucas 10. Mary Elizabeth born 1824 married William Andrew Williams The only Delilah Hale I found was listed as daughter of Johnny Hale and ? Johnny was born before 1844 this may be the correct Delilah since her brother Dow had a daughter Ellen who married John Meadows. I hope this helps someone. Wanda L. Thacker

I am still searching for information on David Lucas born c 1801 who married Margaret Farley. They are supposed to be the parents of Meredith Lucas, but I can't find proof. Any help or suggestions are very welcome. Phyllis

Hi, Don't know if this helps or not? But from the "Giles County Virginia"....history-families....on page 19....the confusion could be?...there is a listing of PARKER LUCAS...then next to the listing is WILLIAM LUCAS. About Parker Lucas....son of Charles and Kathleen (Annie ) Kawood...d.wp. May 1835, married Margaret------?said to be the daughter of Michael and Margaret (Killian ?) Price, Children; then it list the children.....several. VIII. Thomas (probably) ma. 3-28-1801 HANNAH HALE. Children; 1. EMMALINE married, 9-26-1831 PETER BELLER and 2. MARY m.11-16-1825 JESSE ADAMS. If you would like the rest of the names of their children I'd be happy to send them....hope this is what you are looking for? Also there's this...LUCAS, HANNAH; (death) January 28, 1860 (P.S. I see William Lucas, married an Elizabeth Price....she was b. ca. 1750. d. after 1840...cenus Kanawha County...WVa. 90-100 yrs. old. Jackie [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Lee Hendricks ELN <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, August 01, 1999 3:34 PM Subject: Fw: Hannah Hale Lucas >Thanks for the idea, but I have no records of my Lucas family living in >Indiana. They lived in the Giles County and Montgomery County area in >Virginia, and thus I'm thinking that the "mystery" Local History book would >be from that area. > >Thanks again for your input. Lottie Hendricks > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elisi Julia <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Sunday, August 01, 1999 8:13 AM >Subject: Fw: Hannah Hale Lucas > > >>There is a New Castle, IN - named for Chief New Castle I think - please >>don't quote me on that. But there is definitely a New Castle, Indiana. >>Hope this helps. >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Lee Hendricks ELN <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 10:13 PM >>Subject: Re: Hannah Hale Lucas >> >> >>> Kathy, >>> >>> I am so glad to hear from a descendant of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale >>> Lucas! I am not from their direct line, even though you would think so >>if >>> you looked at the LDS Ancestral File. I know this may be confusing, but >>> I'll try to explain below. >>> >>> Someone, at some time, submitted information to the Ancestral File, >>listing >>> a William Lucas as being the son of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale. That >>> same William Lucas is listed in the Ancestral File as being married to >>> Esther McKim Carson. >>> >>> I have found in my research that there is an error either in the parent >>> linking, or in the spouse linking, because my 3rd great grandfather, >>William >>> B. Lucas, who married Esther McKim Carson was the son of Samuel Lucas and >>> Catherine Davis. Not the son of Thomas and Hannah Hale Lucas! >>> >>> Have you found a son named William Lucas belonging to the Thomas Lucas >>> family? I have no argument that Thomas and Hannah Hale Lucas may have >had >>a >>> son named William. In fact, I would welcome further documentation from >>> anyone who has a source, other than the Ancestral File, which lists >>> William's name as one of their sons. >>> >>> For several years I assumed that the Ancestral File information was >>correct, >>> until I started contacting the submitters of the information, and asking >>> them about their sources. I contacted 3 of the submitters of the >>> information, and none of them had copies of any documents that they could >>> share with me, listing William as one of the sons of Thomas Lucas. >>> >>> I wasn't trying to be a stickler, I was just trying to document my >>pedigree, >>> and they were not able to help me. The only clue I got was that one of >>the >>> submitters of the information told me that she found a book about local >>> history, which was written sometime before the early 1970's, that >>> supposedly had info. in it on several generations of the Lucas family. >>She >>> said that the local history book stated that Thomas Lucas had a son named >>> William. >>> >>> Evidently part of the title of the book had the word "Castle" in it. She >>> thought it might have been Fin Castle, or New Castle, or something like >>> that. Does this "ring a bell" with anyone? I don't think it was the >>> Briefs of Wills and Marriages of Fincastle County, because she made it >>sound >>> like the information was typed in narrative form, with a few details >about >>> each Lucas family... >>> >>> To make a long story short, I had a break through earlier this spring, >>when >>> one of my correspondents found a copy of an old letter, written in 1861 >by >>> "William Lucas" and "Esther Mc. Lucas" to William's father, Samuel >>Lucas. >>> Since then, I have been able to find 3 or 4 additional sources which >>> indicate that the William Lucas who married Esther McKim Carson was the >>son >>> of Samuel Lucas and Catherine Davis. >>> >>> Someone needs to make a correction to the Ancestral File and get this >>> straightened out. I am more than willing to submit a correction >>> to the Ancestral File, but I thought that as a courtesy to those who have >>> already submitted information on this family, that I should try and find >>out >>> more information and documentation, before submitting a request for a >>> correction to be made. >>> >>> Would be happy to share Family Group Records, and documentation with any >>who >>> are interested in my branch of the Lucas Family. I have not typed >>> information up regarding the lateral lines of the Lucas family, just my >>> direct line, which follows: >>> >>> Charles Lucas > Captain John Lucas> Samuel Lucas>William B. Lucas >>>Alexander >>> Carson Lucas > Martin Luther Lucas> Virda Ellen Lucas... Virda Lucas was >>my >>> grandmother. >>> >>> I did find one additional clue in the IGI records of the LDS church. >>There >>> is a "William T. Lucas" listed in that source, who is listed as being the >>> son of Thomas Lucas and Hannah Hale Lucas. The 1850 census lists the >>> middle initial of "my " William Lucas as being "B." Can you, or anyone >>> else out there, help me find any source documents on the William T. >>Lucas? >>> Or is it just an error that got started 20 or more years ago, that has >>never >>> been fixed? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Lottie Hendricks >>> Mesa, Arizona >>> >>> >>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> Date: Saturday, July 31, 1999 4:54 PM >>> Subject: Re: Hannah Hale Lucas >>> >>> >In a message dated 7/31/99 2:33:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >>> >[email protected] writes: >>> > >>> ><< In it are Hannah Hale and Thomas >>> > Lucas and a list of their children. There are alot of Lucas' in it and >>if >>> > you want, I will send you all that, I find in it. >> >>> >Hi Wanda, >>> > >>> >I'm a descendant of Thomas and Hannah LUCAS and am interested in what >you >>> >have on the LUCAS family.Could you send it to me also ? >>> > >>> >Kathy Lucas Bertrem >>> >[email protected] >>> > >>> > >>> >==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >>> >Have you visited the Giles County VaGenWeb page recently? >>> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/ >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >>> Older Giles County Queries are indexed at: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagiles/quindex.html >>> >> >> > > >==== VAGILES Mailing List ==== >The latest Giles County queries are at: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Giles > > >