Thanks to all who answered. :) Linda

Linda; Radford, VA is an independent city. Tami P. Ramsey tami@i-plus.net Pulaski County VA GenWeb Coordinator & Listowner http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapulask/ Washington County VA GenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~vawashin/ Overton Co. TN GenWeb Coordinator & Listowner http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnoverto/overton.htm Fentress & Pickett Co. TN GenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnfentre/fent.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnpicket/pick.htm Webmaster Wilderness Road Regional Museum http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapulask/wrrm/index.htm Webmaster for New River Historical Society Homepage http://www.rootsweb.com/~vanrhs/ RAMSEY Family Webpage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ramsey/ SULSER Family Webpage & Listowner http://sulser.rootsweb.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Lewis <cityslic@ix.netcom.com> To: <VAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 6:30 PM Subject: [VAGEN-L] Independent Cities > Can someone confirm that these are all independent cities, and if I've > left any out? > > Alexandria > Chesapeake > Fairfax > Fredricksburg > Lynchburg > Manassas > Newport News > Petersburg > Poquoson > Richmond > Salem > > Thanks! > > Linda > >

Can someone confirm that these are all independent cities, and if I've left any out? Alexandria Chesapeake Fairfax Fredricksburg Lynchburg Manassas Newport News Petersburg Poquoson Richmond Salem Thanks! Linda

I have been asked to provide a list of volunteers (as of 1 April 2000) with their counties, email addresses and whether they're Co-CC or Assistant-CC. Here's the list I've prepared, with notation that several are post 1 April 2000 volunteers. Please let me know if the email address shown beside your name is NOT the one you wish to use for voting in the upcoming election. Regards, Freddie S. TAZEWELL (after 1 April) Armstrong, Amy E. (Profit) AmyeA@aol.com ALLEGHANY Arthur, Theodore W. t-arthur@home.com, CC PITTSYLVANIA Austin, Gayle gayle@gate.net, CC WASHINGTON (assisting) Becker, Mike mike@beckerweb.com, A-CC WISE Beverly, Robert rbeverly@compuserve.com, CC SHENANDOAH Blackford, Alley alleyb@worldnet.att.net, CC HALIFAX Bonham, Barbara Farthing msb@myfamily.org, CC (GRAYSON - RICHMOND) Bradley, Nancy Nancy@tlc-gen.com, CC GREENE Brubach, Betty bbrubach@mindspring.com, CC FAUQUIER Burgess, Jim burgess@surnames.com, CC SMYTH Cameron, Connie connie@naxs.com, CC (BLAND - WYTHE) Cameron, Joe cameronnet@naxs.com, CC NELSON Coffey, Wayne wcoffey@mindspring.com, CC (CUMBERLAND - LANCASTER) Courtney-Blizzard, Kelly Kellygirl3398@mpinet.net, CC FLOYD Dailey, Ron RonDailey@compuserve.com, CC LOUISA Dunn, Wayne trevilians@aol.com, CC RUSSELL Dye, Michael A. m.a.d.man@worldnet.att.net, CC PRINCESS ANNE Ellis, Laura Vaughn ladytopaz@home.com, CC KING AND QUEEN ESSEX Wright, Sue swright@iocc.com, CC AUGUSTA (Co-Host) Finley, Carmen J. finleyc@sonoma.edu, Co-CC BUCHANAN Fuller, Bill billflr@compunet.net, CC PAGE Gizzy, Ken kgissy@placercoe.k12.ca.us, CC (CLARKE - FREDERICK - KING GEORGE - WARREN) Goff, Christine cgcolo@juno.com GLOUCESTER Goodsell, Jane goodsell@pilot.infi.net, CC LOUDOUN Greene, Wayne wlgreene1@aol.com, CC (JAMES CITY - SURRY) Gregory, Eve egregory20@earthlink.net, CC (ALBEMARLE - ALEXANDRIA - CULPEPER - FAIRFAX - LEE - NORTHUMBERLAND - PRINCE WILLIAM - SCOTT - WESTMORELAND) Henderson, Yvonne hen1@idt.net, CC NEW KENT Jensen, Christine christine@wertin.net, CC HIGHLAND Kirk, Josh Van thevankirks@hotmail.com, CC RAPPAHANNOCK (after 1 April) Kreh, Tim Krehztim@yahoo.com (HENRICO - RICHMOND (City) ) Lett, Kevin T. ktlett@juno.com, CC ASC Lewis, Linda cityslic@ix.netcom.com (FREDERICKSBURG (City) - SPOTSYLVANIA) McGhee, Barry bmcghee@staffnet.com, CC (ACCOMACK - NORTHAMPTON) Middleton, Carol c.middleton@worldnet.att.net, CC (AMELIA - AMHERST - APPOMATTOX - BRUNSWICK - BUCKINGHAM - CAMPBELL - CHARLES CITY - DINWIDDIE - ELIZABETH CITY - GOOCHLAND - GREENSVILLE - ISLE OF WIGHT - LYNCHBURG (City) - NANSEMOND - NOTTOWAY - PETERSBURG - POWHATAN - PRINCE GEORGE - SOUTHAMPTON - SUSSEX) Morrison, Carol A. camorrison@ibm.net, CC ARLINGTON Nikitchyuk, Erin K. ane@bigfoot.com, CC NEWPORT NEWS (City) Page, Steven web-czar@rcn.com, CC WARWICK Pownall, Lori Beckett ladydruid1@home.com, CC CAROLINE Price, Peg bearpaw@alaska.net, CC (PULASKI - WASHINGTON) Ramsey, Tami tami@i-plus.net, CC SALEM ROANOKE Heath, Diana Kinzer Angel329@prodigy.net, CC MADISON Siebert, Sue pituso@mesh.net, CC (CHARLOTTE - MECKLENBURG) Spears, JoLee Gregory spearsj@bellsouth.net, CC SC & (BEDFORD - CARROLL - FRANKLIN - MONTGOMERY) Spradlin, Freddie fspradlin@earthlink.net, SC & CC (AUGUSTA CoHost - PATRICK CoHost) Stanley, Barbara bobnroa@pipeline.com, Co-CC DICKENSON Stanley, Dennis thefreak@wizard.net, CC NORFOLK Stover, Gracie ggracie@feist.com, CC PRINCE EDWARD (after 1 April) Taffet, Mary D. mdtaffet@syr.edu BATH Viellenave, Patricia wvgal@brantleytel.net FLUVANNA (after 1 April) Webb, Frank markedge@avana.net (ROCKINGHAM - ORANGE) Welch, Harriet hwelch@rica.net, CC GILES Wiegand, Paula pwiegand@erols.com, CC (HENRY - MIDDLESEX - MATHEWS - MARTINSVILLE (City) - POQUOSON (City) - YORK) Williams, Jim jimw@mindless.com, CC STAFFORD Williams, Kristy kdwiam@email.msn.com, CC (CHESTERFIELD - HANOVER - KING WILLIAM) Wood, Robert L. bobbywood@prodigy.net, CC (BOTETOURT - CRAIG - PATRICK (CoHost) - ROCKBRIDGE) Worthen, Rena doreatr@rbnet.com, CC

Oooops, Roanoke (City) is also linked from the VAGenWeb homepage Freddie S. > _The Hornbook of Virginia History_ lists 41 independent cities. > This list (except for Fairfax, and Manassas) has links on the > VAGenWeb homepage for pages separate from the county. > Also Manchester and Martinsville are linked. > > The list in "Hornbook" is > Alexandria > Bedford > Bristol > Buena Vista > Charlottesville > Chesapeake > Clifton Forge > Colonial Heights > Covington > Danville > Emporia > Fairfax > Falls Church > Franklin > Fredericksburg > Galax > Hampton > Harrisonburg > Hopewell > Lexington > Lynchburg > Manassas > Manassas Park > Martinsville > Newport News > Norfolk > Norton > Petersburg > Poquoson > Portsmouth > Radford > Richmond > Roanoke > Salem > South Boston > Staunton > Suffolk > Virginia Beach > Waynesboro > Williamsburg > Winchester > > > Freddie S. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Can someone confirm that these are all independent cities, and if I've > > left any out? > > > > Alexandria > > Chesapeake > > Fairfax > > Fredricksburg > > Lynchburg > > Manassas > > Newport News > > Petersburg > > Poquoson > > Richmond > > Salem > > > > Thanks! > > > > Linda > > > > >

_The Hornbook of Virginia History_ lists 41 independent cities. This list (except for Fairfax, and Manassas) has links on the VAGenWeb homepage for pages separate from the county. Also Manchester and Martinsville are linked. The list in "Hornbook" is Alexandria Bedford Bristol Buena Vista Charlottesville Chesapeake Clifton Forge Colonial Heights Covington Danville Emporia Fairfax Falls Church Franklin Fredericksburg Galax Hampton Harrisonburg Hopewell Lexington Lynchburg Manassas Manassas Park Martinsville Newport News Norfolk Norton Petersburg Poquoson Portsmouth Radford Richmond Roanoke Salem South Boston Staunton Suffolk Virginia Beach Waynesboro Williamsburg Winchester Freddie S. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Can someone confirm that these are all independent cities, and if I've > left any out? > > Alexandria > Chesapeake > Fairfax > Fredricksburg > Lynchburg > Manassas > Newport News > Petersburg > Poquoson > Richmond > Salem > > Thanks! > > Linda > >

Linda and others, I really appreciate that my request did not become personal. It is my hope that all three proposed amendments are sponsored so that we can vote on all three. If that happens, then whatever the outcome happens to be, the opinions of the majority of the voters will be known. If those majority opinions are known, then whatever happens to and within USGW cannot be construed to have been caused by a few or caused by malcontents or caused by any reason or anyone other than those who voted. There are people within USGW who never speak out but do vote (I used to be one). I am not saying what I wish the outcome to be other than I hope that after the election results are known, the archived messages for the ALL list will change and replies will be, "Hey, the people voted and this is what the majority wanted." Wouldn't that be lovely? Not everyone will like the outcome of the election but maybe we can all be a bit more acceptable of the outcome knowing that we all had a chance to vote on every issue. I will be voting yes for VA to sponsor all three proposed amendments. However, that does not mean I will be voting yes on all three if they are voted on during the election. For those of you wishing to know more about the candidates, it is not necessary to sub to the ALL list. You can read the archived messages instead. Type in a candidates name and you can then get to know the candidate, how he/she responds to others, how he/she feels about an issue. Usually, the original query will appear on a reply made by a candidate. You can also sub to the Daily Board Show. However, the author does give her own opinions and is sometimes biased and is sometimes incorrect. But, you can then use a keyword to get more info from the archived messages. The DBS is also amusing and gives comic relief at times. Alley Blackford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lewis" <cityslic@ix.netcom.com> To: <VAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [VAGEN-L] Did we vote on this???? > I don't think Bless you was a vote option. But I'll take it. <g> > > Linda > > > > > Bless you and thanks. > > > > Alley > > > >

There's been a motion to vote on whether or not VAGenWeb should sponsor one or more of the three proposed amendments to the USGenWeb By Laws. Before voting there may need to be discussion on the proposed amendments. Some CCs may want to ask for clarification on the meaning and/or purpose of a particular amendment. Before voting, there should be some agreement that a vote is in order, and whether voting should be by "secret ballot" or by ayes & nays on the list. Since VAGenWeb is such an informal group, there's not been a call for working out "set procedures" that I'm aware of. Regards, Freddie S.

I don't think Bless you was a vote option. But I'll take it. <g> Linda > > Bless you and thanks. > > Alley >

Bless you and thanks. Alley > I agree, Alley. Everyone should have an opportunity to vote, and it > should be done soon, since there is not much time. > > Freddie.. can you take the vote counts and report to this list and > state-coord list? > Everyone can vote yes, no, or abstain. > > Linda > >

Alley Blackford wrote: > > Linda, I'm not attempting to stir up controversy on this list nor am I > asking anyone's opinion. I would just like to have the opportunity to vote > on the issues. I agree, Alley. Everyone should have an opportunity to vote, and it should be done soon, since there is not much time. Freddie.. can you take the vote counts and report to this list and state-coord list? Everyone can vote yes, no, or abstain. Linda

Freddie, The various proposed amendments are found by going to the USGenWeb page and clicking on "Official USGW Project Business" which will take you to "Proposed Amendments to the By Laws" which will take you to the actual proposals. A minimum of 5 states as co-sponsors is required before the amendment can be placed on the ballot. Can we have the choice of voting on whether or not we wish to be a sponsor? Linda, I'm not attempting to stir up controversy on this list nor am I asking anyone's opinion. I would just like to have the opportunity to vote on the issues. I have never had a problem visiting more than one site to find archives and I would not have a problem if someone added another Shenandoah Co site through ALGN or whatever it is called or any of the other organizations found on the web. In fact, I would welcome the help. Delinking the other archives did bother me since I had not bookmarked it and could not find it again. I think voting on the issues would be in the best interests of the USGenWeb Project. Once the results were known, we would all know how the majority feels about the issues and everyone would have had a chance to voice their opinion, if so desired, by voting. If the results favored you, then the entire project would know. This also applies to the other two issues/amendments. I wish to have the opportunity to voice my opinion on issues by voting. If I am the only CC requesting this, then I withdraw my plea. If there is at least one more, then I hope our wishes are treated with respect by allowing us the opportunity to vote. Alley Blackford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freddie Spradlin" <fspradlin@earthlink.net> To: <VAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [VAGEN-L] Did we vote on this???? > I know of no plans for a Project-wide election on the various amendments > to the bylaws spawned by the seemingy endless controversy resulting from > the delinking of the "second" Archives Project pages ... > > My impression is that any vote within VAGenWeb would be advisory in > nature for our Regional Representative to the Advisory Board, and > perhaps after some action by them, there might be a vote on an amendment. > > I've not been following too closely, since I get turned off by the > vituperative > messages on the USGENWEB-ALL mailing list and hit my "delete" button, > FAST > > Regards, > Freddie S. > > > > >From the Daily Board Show came this announcement of voting. I don't > recall > > voting or being asked to vote on the Special Projects amendment. However, > I > > have been very busy with my recent move and may have missed this. If we > are > > voting on these amendments, please let me know. > > > > > > Amendment Update: We hear that opinion is running strongly in favor of the > > States' Rights Amendment in Arkansas. Votes have been taken in the > > NDGenWeb, the GAGenWeb, and the VAGenWeb on the Special Projects > > amendment, but no results on those are forthcoming. Proposed amendments > > can be viewed at: http://www.usgenweb.com/official/amendments.html. > > > > Alley Blackford > > alleyb@worldnet.att.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

From what I understand, proposed by-law amendments need to be sponsored by x-amount of XXGenWeb's to be placed on the ballot for the annual election that's coming up in August. I haven't read the amendments thoroughly, but will give an opinion if anyone wants it. I do know that certain folks are trying to break up the USGenWeb Archives and put them into the control of the XXGenWeb's. I would not agree with that. Since starting the USGenWeb Archives in June 1996, I've fought many attempts to either destroy or split them up, for one purpose or another. The Archives, operating under much stricter guidelines than the USGenWeb county sites, etc., have been successful and we now have about 4 megs of textual data, and 27 gigs of scanned images - for permanent free storage. The people that are trying to change the USGenWeb Archives, by destroying or splitting, are not active in that project. Linda Freddie Spradlin wrote: > > I know of no plans for a Project-wide election on the various amendments > to the bylaws spawned by the seemingy endless controversy resulting from > the delinking of the "second" Archives Project pages ... > > My impression is that any vote within VAGenWeb would be advisory in > nature for our Regional Representative to the Advisory Board, and > perhaps after some action by them, there might be a vote on an amendment. > > I've not been following too closely, since I get turned off by the > vituperative > messages on the USGENWEB-ALL mailing list and hit my "delete" button, > FAST > > Regards, > Freddie S.

>From the Daily Board Show came this announcement of voting. I don't recall voting or being asked to vote on the Special Projects amendment. However, I have been very busy with my recent move and may have missed this. If we are voting on these amendments, please let me know. Amendment Update: We hear that opinion is running strongly in favor of the States' Rights Amendment in Arkansas. Votes have been taken in the NDGenWeb, the GAGenWeb, and the VAGenWeb on the Special Projects amendment, but no results on those are forthcoming. Proposed amendments can be viewed at: http://www.usgenweb.com/official/amendments.html. Alley Blackford alleyb@worldnet.att.net

I know of no plans for a Project-wide election on the various amendments to the bylaws spawned by the seemingy endless controversy resulting from the delinking of the "second" Archives Project pages ... My impression is that any vote within VAGenWeb would be advisory in nature for our Regional Representative to the Advisory Board, and perhaps after some action by them, there might be a vote on an amendment. I've not been following too closely, since I get turned off by the vituperative messages on the USGENWEB-ALL mailing list and hit my "delete" button, FAST Regards, Freddie S. > >From the Daily Board Show came this announcement of voting. I don't recall > voting or being asked to vote on the Special Projects amendment. However, I > have been very busy with my recent move and may have missed this. If we are > voting on these amendments, please let me know. > > > Amendment Update: We hear that opinion is running strongly in favor of the > States' Rights Amendment in Arkansas. Votes have been taken in the > NDGenWeb, the GAGenWeb, and the VAGenWeb on the Special Projects > amendment, but no results on those are forthcoming. Proposed amendments > can be viewed at: http://www.usgenweb.com/official/amendments.html. > > Alley Blackford > alleyb@worldnet.att.net > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Are we going to vote on this? The USGenWeb Project Bylaws Proposed States' Rights Amendment BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF AMENDMENT All authority is vested at state (XXGenWeb) and local levels, including Special Projects; all grievances handled at XXGenWeb and local level only; prohibits national sanctions; does away with all national positions other than a national webmaster and national special project webmasters, each elected by the membership, and each with no authority other than website maintenance; all national list managers (State-Coord, USGW-CC-L, etc.) elected by subscribers; adds perpetual prohibition against commercial activity. CURRENT STATUS (06/02/00) Both the proposed amendment by TNGenWeb and the co-sponsorship of ORGenWeb were filed on 05/31/00. Co-sponsorship by NEGenWeb was filed on 06/01/00. A minimum of three more state projects must co-sponsor the amendment prior to Jul 1, 2000 for it to be placed on the July 1 ballot. FAQ: http://www.geocities.com/usgenwebamend/faq.html Alley Blackford Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb CC alleyb@worldnet.att.net

This is the first thing I have seen that makes any sense at all!!! Carmen Finley At 02:51 PM 06/04/2000 -0400, Alley Blackford wrote: >Are we going to vote on this? > >The USGenWeb Project Bylaws >Proposed States' Rights Amendment > > >BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF AMENDMENT >All authority is vested at state (XXGenWeb) and local levels, including >Special Projects; all grievances handled at XXGenWeb and local level only; >prohibits national sanctions; does away with all national positions other >than a national webmaster and national special project webmasters, each >elected by the membership, and each with no authority other than website >maintenance; all national list managers (State-Coord, USGW-CC-L, etc.) >elected by subscribers; adds perpetual prohibition against commercial >activity. > > > >CURRENT STATUS (06/02/00) >Both the proposed amendment by TNGenWeb and the co-sponsorship of ORGenWeb >were filed on 05/31/00. Co-sponsorship by NEGenWeb was filed on 06/01/00. A >minimum of three more state projects must co-sponsor the amendment prior to >Jul 1, 2000 for it to be placed on the July 1 ballot. > >FAQ: > >http://www.geocities.com/usgenwebamend/faq.html > >Alley Blackford >Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb CC >alleyb@worldnet.att.net > > > > > >

I recently received an email advising me that the Shenandoah Co VAGENWEB site was up for adoption. Imagine my surprise knowing it is my site that I adopted from Todd White almost TWO years ago in July 1998. This is Todd White's site: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2521/shendoah.htm .....still on the web announcing it needs to be adopted. This is my site, SHENANDOAH COUNTY VAGENWEB: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html Please update your links. Alley Blackford Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb CC alleyb@worldnet.att.net

Alley, This might be caused by some search engines such as yahoo.com or altavista.com, still returning Todd's site when someone searches on Shenandoah ... I run into the problem that they still refer folks to my old sites for counties, on delphi.com, although they've long been moved to rootsweb.com Regards, Freddie S. > I recently received an email advising me that the Shenandoah Co VAGENWEB > site was up for adoption. Imagine my surprise knowing it is my site that I > adopted from Todd White almost TWO years ago in July 1998.

----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Swafford (by way of Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net>) <sagitta56@earthlink.net> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 9:03 PM Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Nominations point of contact. > Sorry for any prior confusion. > > Northeast / North Central > Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New > Hampshire, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Wisconsin > Alice Gayley agayley@dgs.dgsys.com > > Northwest Plains > Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, > Oregon, South Dakota, Washington, Wyoming > Jerimiah Moerke moer0020@tc.umn.edu > > Southeast / Mid Atlantic > Alabama, Delaware, D.C., Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, > New Jersey, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West > Virginia > Vicki Shaffer tngibson@worldnet.att.net > > Southwest / South Central > Arizona, Arkansas, California, Hawaii, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Nevada, > New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah > Shirley Scott shirleyscott@juno.com > > > > >