This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/3077.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, but I already have all of what you posted. I am trying to find if there is definite proof that Jacob Grapes is Jacob Krebs. I think so, and I've seen many posting that other people do, too. I know that many times there is no definite proof, and assumptions have to be made. I don't want to assume unless I can find something beside common first names, and similiar birthdates. My current project on this line is tracing the land transactions backwords. I'm hoping that one spelling will be common between PA and VA. So far, I've gotten Grapes, Graps, Graves, Grips, and Gripes. Marriage records, death records, and baptisims haven't gotten me past Jacob, although there is extensive information on his descendants. I live in VA, so I am fairly local to the information. Easy access :-) I just am having a hard time with a couple of people due to poor documentation.