This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DeeAnnBuck Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.frederick/5897.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You can find on the Frederick Co. VA Birth Registry, listed: "Mary A. Grubs born in Sep 1854 in Pine Hills, Frederick Co. VA, daughter Charles & Elizabeth Grubs" Father listed as being Farmer. So you might check land deeds. John Vogt's marriage book has Charles Grubbs & Elizabeth Clevenger on 13 Aug 1844 in Frederick Co. VA. Family unit listed on 1850 Frederick Co. VA census: Charles 32, Elizabeth 28, Andrew J. 5, Charles W. 3, John W. 3. all born in VA. You can follow the unit down in time in the other census. I have she parents as Martin & Elizabeth (Chism) Clevenger married in Frederick Co. VA. They had at least five children. I believe you will find lots of family histories done on both Grubbs (various spelling) & Clevenger. And you will find both surnames in various records for Frederick Co. VA. I have in the past placed posting on my cousin Michael L. McKay web site for Grubb family. I believe others are interested in your surname. www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/8030 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.