This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/3075.1.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Great information. I just can't see myself driving that distance again. It's wonderful to know I can do it from from here. Thanks for all your help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McCarroll, Jobe, Conred, Rowland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/3075.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much for your prompt reply. Good info. I'll get right on it. Hopefully, I'll be lucky to find some records. Thanks again.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/3075.1.2.2 Message Board Post: The Handley Archives will answer your e-mails, as will most county or historical sites. Most let you know up front if & what they charge. A copy charge & postage is normal - some sites ask for a tax deductible "donation" - where you win with a tax break besides. I've had good success in giving details - full name, dates, anything that can pinpoint my particular family or person. "Anything on the X family" is just too hard. But, John X, b. 1750, d. about 1830, married to Sarah, children A, B, and C - this will help pinpoint who you are looking for. Too vague of info results in possibly getting 20 pages on the wrong person! Pinpointing dates helps too. If you know they died between the 1870 and 1880 census - but not sure when, you have at least narrowed the search to 10 years. Handley has lots of info - and you can search their website. When I find it there, I ask for copies of that specific item - saving them the time - for instance, an obit in a scrapbook. I sometimes also give a money range - say I'll pay up to $25 or $50 for info on X. THen they know that they can begin, and how much, what to go for first. If you only want to pay, say $5, they will look for obits first, but with a little more, they might print anything they find. In another county, I set a $25 limit, and recieved 90 pages worth of info - incredibly great stuff! But, you can always go back and ask for more if you need to narrow the search. They may then e-mail you to let you know what they have. Always pay promptly :-) And don't forget to give them a big thanks. We couldn't do research from a distance without them! Then - if you have put together a family history - donate it to the archives! Then your research is available for the family for years to come, long after we are gone. Best of luck!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/3075.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I sent an e-mail through the Handley Archives website. They responded and advised what the fees would be. They charge 20 cents a page and mail an invoice with the papers they provide from the microfilm copies. I haven't received anything yet. I'm listing the e-mail link below: archives@hrl.lib.state.va.us

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McCarroll, Fleming, Conrad and Rowland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/3075.1.2 Message Board Post: Thank you for the valuable hints you listed. Some of my ancestors lived in Frederick and Jefferson counties, mostly McCarrolls married to Jobe, Conrad, and Rowland. While we visited Brucetown and one of its cemeteries, we did not get to Winchester. It sounds as though I could send for info. Would it be better to call to find out the fees if they find anything or do they bill you? Thank you. Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/3078 Message Board Post: Dorcas Cooley b abt 1815 VA who married 20 May 1832 John Criner b abt 1815, son of Elizabeth Griffey. Frederick County Marriage Bonds, by Joan D. Hackett & Rebecca D. Good, FHL #975.5992 V2h, p.208 "19 May 1832 John Criner, son of Elizabeth Griffy, & Darcus Cooley. Bondsman, Elizabeth Griffy." Does anybody know anything about this family? Letter from Dorcas Criner transcribed as written ..... Winchester Va April the 12th 1857 dear daughter i now take this opertunity of aressing you a few lines to let you know that i am well at present hoping that you and your little son is enjoying the same good blesing you write to and that if you don't go to the west in such a short time you will bee up to see mee that i am most afrade that i will not get to see you lizey you must Come up if you can for i am All most Crazy to see you i (don't?) hear no more of the smallpox now the worst of it is over thare was one Death from it after Cutley i a was glad to hear that Peter was well when you heard from him you must write as oftin as you Can and i will do the same i wach the Cax* as regler as a Clock to see you Come if you Can Come up and stay all summer with mee i will be very glad indeed your cousin Maria sends her best love to you and says she would like vary much to see you and she says she will write to you as soon as she Can and you moust do the same nothing more at present i remon your Affectionate Mother till death Dorcus Criner write soon NOTE: Chrutley Cooley, age 16, in the Wythe County, VA 1850 census, son of Frances & Sarah Cooley. * Cax or Cox or Cas or Cos Curiously, in Winchester, Frederick co VA the 1850 census lists Dorcas age 51 (b 1799) with John age 35. the 1860 census lists Dorcas age 45 (b 1815) with John age 45, the 1870 census has no listing for them anywhere, the 1880 census lists Dorcas age 85 (b 1797) with John age 75.

Reception at Zirkle Mill slated for Saturday New owner wants to make facility part of community -- By Preston Knight (Daily Staff Writer) FORESTVILLE - Robert Andrews can speak at length about how a mill works - the parts vital to the whole process and the way in which those pieces were constructed. His words are a little more minced when it comes to describing what Saturday means to him. Andrews, co-owner of this historic Zirkle Mill, is hosting the first event at the facility since he and his sister, Sherryl Belinsky, purchased it earlier this year. The event is a reception slated for 3:30 p.m. after several other events are to take place in Mt. Jackson. Andrews, a descendant of one of the mill's builders who has had nine generations of family grow up around Forestville, bought the mill from Gordon D. "Sonny" Bowman after months of controversy surrounding historic properties and private ownership rights. Then-Gov. Mark Warner even had to weigh in at one point to stop the state-funded Frontier Culture Museum of Staunton from buying the mill from Bowman. The mill is on the National Register of Historic Places and the Virginia Landmarks Register. With Saturday's reception, Andrews is on his way to making the mill part of the community again. "I can't just decide to quit the deal and just let the mill sit there," he said. "It was built by my family. It's one of the few little physical artifacts left. It shows their industriousness, their ingenuity, just their plain hard work. "It is me. It's hard to put this into words." Andrews said he expects to have a report on the mill from Derek Ogden, a world-renowned millwright, to share with the public by Saturday. That report will detail what needs to be done to the mill now and what it will take to get it running again, which is one of Andrews' goals. "I would not be surprised if I got a $400,000 to $600,000 price tag to get it all the way back," he said. "If I can, I can. If I can't, I can't." One of the problems is that Bowman removed some of the original roller milling equipment to make room for a potential store for his business, Bowman Apple Products, Andrews said. "Mr. Bowman was not a very good caretaker for the mill," he said. However, Andrews said Ogden has told him that the mill, from a mechanical standpoint, could be brought back to operation. The mill's owners remain hushed on what other plans are being discussed. "We have tons of long-term plans," Andrews said. "Whe-ther or not I want to tell anybody is another story." The public can get its first close-up look at the mill Saturday, following a day designated for historic preservation. First, about 100 descendants of Johann Adam Rausch, who arrived in Pennsylvania in 1736 and moved to the Mt. Jackson area around 1745, will gather for their 80th family reunion at American Celebration on Parade. Every 10 years on a year ending with a six, the Roush & Allied Families Association holds its reunion in the Mt. Jackson area, said Andrews, who is a descendant of Rausch. The reunion ends before 3 p.m., when a reconsecration and dedication of a memorial of the old joint cemetery of St. Mary Pine Lutheran Church and Grace United Church of Christ occurs across from St. Mary's, at 7103 S. Middle Road in Mt. Jackson. The marker was erected last year, but dedication was delayed because people attending the reunion wanted to be a part of it, said Robert Frye, representative trustee from Grace United Church. In conjunction with the dedication, at 3:30 p.m., the Col. Fielding Lewis Chapter of the Sons of the American Revolution will hold a grave-marking ceremony for Rausch. Andrews is the chapter's vice president. The public is welcome to those two events, organizers said. Following the grave-marking will be the reception on the back porch of the mill on Quicksburg Road in Forestville. The parking lot across the street and the property itself have been cleaned up by getting rid of weeds, Andrews said. The public won't be turned away at the reception, either. "We've kind of worked under the theory that, 'Yeah, we own the mill, but it's your history,'" Andrews said. Anyone interested in the progress of the mill may want to free their schedule on Sept. 9, when the owners plan a bigger celebration. Andrews said he plans to hang a national landmark plaque at the mill and honor everyone who played a role in the fight to keep the structure from being sold to the Staunton museum. His Sons of American Revolution chapter will also meet at the mill on Sept. 9 and may have another grave-marking. "It will be a community celebration kind of thing," An-drews said. "We hope for that to be a really big one." Additionally, he and his sister will have more information on their organization, Old Dominion Preservation, which has filed for nonprofit status. Andrews had previously led the Save the Zirkle Mill Foundation, but decided on a name change. Having the mill owned by a foundation, he said, makes it eligible for more grants, not to mention ensuring it is in safe hands in the future. The board of directors for the foundation is currently being established. "We've always said the mill belongs to the community, and we're just caretakers of it," Andrews said. "Even though we're private owners, it's still a public service." For more information about the mill, visit www.historiczirklemill.org. * Contact Preston Knight at pknight@nvdaily.com D.L.M.F http://www.geocities.com/pifox1/index.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grapes, Krebs Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/3077 Message Board Post: This is going to be kind of long, sorry. I am looking at my paternal line here. G-Grandfather Virgil Benton Grapes, (22-Apr-1887 to 9-Oct-1968), GG-Grandfater John Thomas Grapes (7-Aug-1860 to 22-Jun-1916), GGG-Grandfather Isaac Newton Grapes (8-May-1816 to 4-Apr-1878). All born in Hampshire County, WV. GGGG-Grandfather David Grapes is a little hazy. I think he was born in Frederick County, VA before 1765 or so. 1810 Census - 45&Up. He died 1826, WV Estate Settlements compiled by Ross B. Johnson. This is the David that married Hannah Lemon 19-Apr-1795. His father, my GGGGG-Grandfather, was Jacob Grapes, mother Sarah. I've gotten this information from Heads of Families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 Virginia records of the state enumerations: 1782-1785, 1782 tax list of Col. Smith, Frederick County Deed book series compiled by Amelia C. Gilreath, and Hopewell Friends History 1734-1934 Frederick County Virginia, among others. Although there is no mention of births or baptisims, the information fits. Jacob Grapes's farm is listed as next to John Lemon's on the tax list and land sales. Jacob is also mentioned in several reasources as a witness to marriages and wills. His last name spelling goes a little off sometimes, Graps, Grips, etc... I have reason to believe that this is the same Jacob Krebs that married Sarah Fedele in PA. I've seen several postings on here and RootsWeb of others that think the same. However, I don't see any sources or notes listed to this. There are several listings of Krebs, Krepts, Cribs, Creps, among others in Frederick County that started showing up around the time Jacob left PA. Jacob Kreb's daughter Catherine's marriage records are in Frederick County. Sarah's father, Michael, will was appraised and executed in Frederick County. Abstracts of Wills, Inventories, Administration Accounts of Frederick County, Virginia 1743-1800 with cemetery inscriptions, rent rolls, and other data compiled by J. Estelle Stewart King P. 31 Fiddley, Michael Will 27 Jan 1770. March 1770 Son: Peter Fiddley. Daughters: Elizabeth ___, Sarah Grips (Gress), Easter Gress. Grandchildren: John, Jacob, Elizabeth, Henry, Mary, Abraham, and David Grips (Gress). Exr. Friend John Rees, Sr. The children's names are correct for Jacob and Sarah Krebs, and the spelling Grips is the one on the sale of land from Isaac Johnson to Jacob, going backwards through land records from the sale of land from Jacob Grapes to John Littler. All the information points to the Jacobs being the same person. My query is to determine if anyone has actual proof of this. I will be more than happy to share all my notes and sources if you want to see where I got my information, but I thought it would make this long post too long to read! Thank you for taking the time to even look at this mess.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Windle Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/3075.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you SO much for all the information. I'll try the Handley Archives first. I'm to the point where I'll try anything. I've tried contacting others connected to the same line (living ggg grandchildren of other siblings) but haven't gotten any responses, I keep hoping though. I appreciate your responses to my queries and all your help. Thanks!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/3075.1 Message Board Post: There are a few ways you can look for people in Frederick County. *********************** Sometimes marriage bonds have parents names. My books on Frederick County marriages don't specify this family, but the records may - they are on microfilm. *************** Try the Handley Archives in Winchester - they have lots of local and family history. They will answer by phone or e-mail if you don't live in the area. They have 2 books that have Windle information. http://www.hrl.lib.state.va.us/handley/default.asp use "search" "archives" and Windle "From the Rhine to the Shenandoah : eighteenth century Swiss & German pioneer families in the central Shenandoah Valley of Virginia and their European origins : Baker, Bly, Brubeck ... / " by Daniel W. Bly. Subject (1993) --and-- Hazel T. See collection. 1907-1989 ************** Look for wills or probate settlements on the Windle family in the Courthouse in Winchester. Even if they didn't have a will, there was probably a probate of the estate. These often mention family members & relation. Also pay attention to who bought items, it is often neighbors or family relations. ***************** Look for land dealings. If they owned land, they sold it, willed it, etc. *************** Look for marriage records of the people you know - siblings may be witnesses, parents may be named. Did they marry in a church, or by a minister - look for records still in that church. If they transferred memberships in a church, you may find a church in Frederick County. Often the records are still in that church's control & you might find clues. Marriages may be announced in a local newspaper, with names. ************* Look in local papers for obituaries. Parents, siblings, and often some family history is in the older ones. Again, Handley Archives has many old newspapers on microfilm. Follow all family members. The info may be missing from your line, but in other family lines. ************ Look for military records. A soldier may name parents of wife, or may be with siblings. **************** Follow census records. How many children are in each census with John & Eva? What ages & sexes? ***************** Look in cemeteries. Before 1850, many people were buried at home plots. After that, they may be in local cemeteries. Who is buried with them? Widowed parents may move in with their children. They may remarry. I found a widow buried with 2nd husband in the same 6 person plot as 1st husband. **************** Look for families of the same name moving at the same time. Siblings often moved together during that time. Maybe one of their descendants has a clue for you, or more info. Maybe John 1804's wife's family knows something. Maybe John 1828's siblings descendants know something. Trace all descendant branches to living persons, and you might find someone with info. **************** Contact any Ancestry trees that fit, even remotely. Their lost branch may be you! Post on county and name message boards. Include as much as you can. ***************** All that said - try the Handley Archives first. ************* Good luck!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/3076 Message Board Post: As of next week (8/1/2006) the catalog records of the Clarke County Historical Association archives will be on-line and searchable. We have uploaded 3500 archival records and 4300 photograph records (many with photo scans attached). Go to www.clarkehistory.org, and there should be a link to our cataloging. Also, all 25 of the CCHA magazine, the Proceedings, have been made into PDF files and are readable and downloadable. Vol 18 is the consolidtated index for Vol 1-17; afterwards each volume is indexed. We are excited that we are now available to many more people. Come see us!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Windle Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/3075 Message Board Post: I see a marriage between John Windle and Eve Anderson in Frederick County, 1794. Can anyone tell me how I might trace the children from this couple? My ggg grandfather was William (possibly John William) Windle, born 1804. His son John William was born July 1828 in Frederick County and they migrated to Pulaski County, VA between 1840 & 1850. I am stuck at William b. 1804. Any assistance/guidance would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/3074 Message Board Post: Looking for information on Anthony Moore of Middletown, VA. Died 1808. Wife, Margaret and children moved to Madisonville, OH. He had a mail contract with the U.S. Postal Service for service between Winchester, VA and Alexandria, VA around 1872 until his death.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2405.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Gordon, I heard that Elizabeth Blackburn died and William Wilson remarried another lady who had another 10 kids with him. Do you know her name?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/3072 Message Board Post: My genealogy6@aol.com has changed to genealogysix@aol.com. Thanks. Candee Hoff

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/1281.1298.2008.1 Message Board Post: My genealogy6@aol.com address has changed to genealogysix@aol.com. Thanks Candee Hoff.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/3071 Message Board Post: My genealogysix address has changed to genealogysix@aol.com. Thanks Candee Hoff

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2073.2075.3.1 Message Board Post: My new email address is Genealogysix@aol.com effective 2004. Candee Hoff 7/21/2005

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/3070.1.1 Message Board Post: Here's the record I have that mentions Solomon Turpin: From Abstracts of Virginia’s Northern Neck Warrants and Surveys, 1653-1781, Volume IV, compiled by Peggy Shomo Joyner, Portsmouth, VA: “Harman Greathouse for whom survd., assignee of Thomas Hartley, warrantee; 10 Oct. 1753-28 Mar. 1755; 275 a. where he (Hartley) lives on Poto. in the long bottom; adj. Greathouse, Wm. Bickerstaff. CC – Ezekial Rose & Henry Fraks, Junr. Surv. Thomas Rutherford.”, and, “Harman Greathouse for whom survd., assignee of Solomon Turpin of Frederick, warrantee; 10 Oct. 1753-28 Mar. 1755; 249 a. where he (Turpin) lives on Long Bottom of Poto.; adj. Thomas Rutherford. CC – Ezekial Rose & Henry Fraks, Junr. Surv. Thomas Rutherford.” Notice both transactions were done on the same day(s). Hartley and Turpin must have been neighbors. Greathouse acquired both of their tracts (which doesn't help much because he had several landholdings) Thomas Rutherford tended to use locals as his chain carriers--which leads me to suspect Henry Fraks, Jr. and Ezekiel Rose were also possibly neighbors of Hartley and Turpin. Anything you can do to nail down where on the Potomac River these men's tracts of land were would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Charles Frakes Scotts Valley, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2200.1.2.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Joanne, Thank you for the WIlson site. I'll have to look at it carefully. After being excited that Wm and Sarah Friend seemed to be our correct line, it may not work after all. The birthdates of the children I have don't seem to fit. Anyway, Eleanor Ruddell is said to have been the second wife of William Wilson whose first wife was Sarah Friend. My brother and I copied that from some information in the family history and museum in Friendsville, MD this summer. Esther