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    1. Re: Mary Farmer & George Grice
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/2704.1.1 Message Board Post: "Frederick County Marriage Bonds" by Hackett & Good p. 67 27 Dec 1806, George Grice & Mary Farmer, daughter of John Farmer of Frederick County, the bondsman. This couple couldn't be the parents of a John Grice born in 1760, but possibly are related??? "Frederick County Marriages" by Vogt & Kethley p. 162 John Grice & Deborah Sumption, 19 Jan 1792, minister Wm Harvey John & Deborah aren't in the bonds book, which usually lists at least the brides father in early marriages. Sorry.

    09/29/2004 11:08:41
    1. Re: Runnymeade
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ferguson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/2380.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm sorry I don't have any further information regarding Hugh Ferguson or his siblings. Good luck on your search.

    09/29/2004 07:39:49
    1. Will of John Farmer/Bower
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2704.1 Message Board Post: Will of John Farmer/Bower probated 6 Nov 1810 named as one of his children Mary GRICE (wife of George Grice) to have one of his tracts situated in Lancaster Co. PA. Perhaps you can find out more about the above couple in that location. Said John Farmer must have changed his name from John Bower (late of Lancaster Co. PA). I have compiled in book form the Frederick Co. VA Will Books 1-9 covering the years of 1743-1816. E-mail me directly if interested.

    09/29/2004 04:19:13
    1. John Grice
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/2704 Message Board Post: Looking for the family of John Grice. He was born in Va in 1760 and he was living in Federick County, Va in the 1780's and 1790's. He later moved to Columbiana County, Ohio where he died in 1843. He married Debroah Sumption in Va. His father may have been George Griste.

    09/29/2004 03:16:33
    1. Re: Looking for info on Shepherd McKay
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mckay Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2399.4.3 Message Board Post: I have been trying to get in touch about Shepperd Mckay but it doesn't go through On your email address. Would you reply.Thanks, Pauline

    09/28/2004 04:11:54
    1. Re: John & Barbara Stickley of VA
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stickley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/1560.1630.2 Message Board Post: Hey Paul, are you in Ohio? I am in MI now but am from Urbana, OH where I had a great uncle Paul. Regarding the Stickleys, from my research I determined that they were part of the Anabaptists called the Church of the Brethren or Dunkards that came from Guggisberg, Switzerland near Bern. They came along with the Amish and the Mennonites who were all pacifists that threatened the Swiss economy that was based on mercenary armies bring money back into the economy. Religion was the excuse for murder and mayhem against these people causing many to flee to the Netherlands which is where Johanne Stockli fled with his parents and later he came to the colonies and eventually settled in Strasburg, VA in 1719. The name was eventually changed to Stickley. The Shenandoah Valley in VA was originally settled by mostly Germans and Swiss as they came down from PA with a sprinkling of Irish to give flavor.

    09/27/2004 12:24:59
    1. Re: 1810 Frederick Co. VA Census
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BARTLETT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2681.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I've had very good luck solving this type of question using the Personal Property Tax List - a list of males over 21 that was made every year from 1782 to 1850+ Both parents would have to be alive in 1804 and probably be listed in 1805. By reviewing the microfilm (from LDS at any FHC) you can see when the family came and left Frederick Co, VA. I've traced BARTLETTs/BERKLEYs this way from Loudoun Co and to Montgomery Co and KY...

    09/27/2004 10:30:32
    1. Re: Carroll & Shue
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CARROLL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2703.3 Message Board Post: "The German Element Of The Shenandoah Valley of Virginia" John W. Wayland "The Valley Germans-County Records" Page 70 From the Records of Augusta and Frederick 1748 July 28, 29:-JACOB DYE and MARY his wife (both making their mark) sell to EPHRIAM LOVE (21), late of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania for 60 pounds 5 shillings 377 acres "on ye head Draughts of Muddy Creek under the North Mountain," adjoining DANIEL HARRISON.- Witnesses: PETER SCHOLL, WILLIAM WHITE, WILLIAM CARROLL (mark). A D C B 2-15-19. (21) EPHRAIM LOVE lived in what is now Rockingham County. He was a captain in the French and Indian War, as is shown by the military schedule of 1758, in th e7th volume of Hening's Statues. PETER SCHOLL, the first witness to this sale, had been appointed a captain of militia in 1742. "French & Inidan War in Frederick County, Virginia" by Norman L. Baker Index Page 200 CHEW, Ensign Colby, 101 CHEW, Lt. Colby, 115, 117 Page 101 ----------The next morning, BAKER sent out another party under Ensign COLBY CHEW which tracked the men over the North Mountain.--------------- Page 117 --------Lieutenants JAMES BAKER and COLBY CHEW were among the officers killed--------------- "Fairfax Land Suit" by Hunter Branson McKay Index Page 165 CARROLL (CARRYL): Joseph 92, Wm. 30, 34, 98, 109. CHEW: John 103, Larkin 103, Larkin Jr. 103, Thomas

    09/27/2004 10:18:44
    1. Re: Mathias SIVEY, SIVY, etc.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/2503.1.2 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Mathias Sivey, Sivy, Civey. How do I get a passenger list of the St. Andrew in 1750?? Thank you for your help. Gretchen Civey Bates

    09/27/2004 10:11:51
    1. Re: Wagoner or Stine/Stein or Michael Price
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/1025.1020.1 Message Board Post: Thank you. I appreciate the answer. There is another daughter, Dorothy Stine b. 1903. She was my husband's grandmother.

    09/27/2004 08:53:06
    1. 1810 Frederick Co. VA Census
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2681.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Found on the 1810 Frederick Co. VA listed: Benj., Elizabeth, Job & John. One could be the father/mother of your Wm. born 1805. This family were members of Hopewell Frederick. Listed a Benj. Pugh married on 6 Jul 1795 by the Baptist. a Job Pugh charged with neglected meeting on 2 May 1796. I would first tried to get a death record in Iowa, copy of his marriage bond, then through land deed perhaps narrow down the year he removed from VA to Iowa. Then you can find out more information about the above Pugh on the 1810 census. The family removed from Chester Co. PA to VA. One of the emigrates was a John Pugh born 16 Dec 1688 in Wales died 24 Jan 1687 East Chester Co. PA.

    09/27/2004 07:45:10
    1. Wm. Carroll
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2703.2 Message Board Post: Wm. Carroll mentioned in Hopewell Friends History, living on Smith Creek, Frederick Co. VA, mentioned he held a meeting of Quakers at his home. His will dated 21 Dec 1758 probated 5 Jun 1759, mentioned a wife Jane, son George, son Joseph (the younger), daughter Mary, two youngest daughters: Katherine & Jane and also devised 3 pounds to be used for the building of Quaker Meeting House in the area. His will included in my book of abtracts of Frederick Co. VA Wills 1-9 books, years 1743-1816. If interested e-mail me directly.

    09/27/2004 07:16:55
    1. Re: Carroll & Shue
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carroll Shue Gibbons Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2703.1.1 Message Board Post: MJ, Thank you so much for your reply. I was leaning toward believing Mary Ann Shue was the daughter of Abraham Shue and Susanna Gibbons, but the fact that they had another daughter named Mary C just didn't seem right. I have different info on the 1830 Census though: 1830 US VA Census Rockingham Co, Pg 261 Stated Abraham Shue, 1 male under 5, 1 male 5-10, 2 males 10-15, 1 male 15-20, 1 male 40-50, 1 female under 5, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 20-30, 1 female 30-40, 1 female 60-70 Anyway, I now know that Mary Ann's father was Abraham. I just have to find which one. Thank you again for all of the info you sent on the Carroll, Shue and Gibbons. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me. Sandi Whitty

    09/27/2004 07:08:08
    1. Re: Carroll & Shue
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/2703.1 Message Board Post: It seems that Mary Ann was the daughter of Abraham Shoe, per her marriage bond. I did find an Abraham Shoe marrying a Susanna Gibbons in 1816, the right timing to be her father, in Shenandoah County. Then I found an Abraham marrying a widow in 1833. IF this is the same Abraham, that would mean that Susanna Gibbons Shoe probably died before the 1833 wedding. 1830 census has only 1 Abraham Shue. He is in Rockingham County, VA. He is 40-50 years old in 1830. He has a house full of children 5 boys: 1 under 5, 1 5-10, 2 10-15, 1 15-20 4 girls 2 under 5 2 5-10 2 women 20-30 In 1830, Mary Ann should be 12? (1830-1818), but if she was born before 1810, she could be one of the ones listed as 20-30?? But then it doesn't fit for her to be the child of an 1816 marriage...... Hmmm.... Per "Frederick County Marriage Bonds" by Hackett & Good p. 225 (Bond date may not be marriage date, but could be slightly earlier, as well as actual marriage date) 2 Jun 1835, James Carroll & Mary Ann Shoe, daughter of Abraham Shoe, the bondsman. p. 214 This may be the above Abraham, or his son, or no relation.... 9 Jul 1833, Abraham Shoe & Thursay Bateman, widow of John Bateman. Bondsman, Edwin Hart. (I don't find a marriage bond for John & Thursay Bateman.) Per "Frederick County Marriages" by Vogt & Kethley p. 55 lists Carrol, Daniel & Elizabeth Emett, 1 Dec 1791; minister Lewis Chastain Carroll, Colin & Ann Littler, 6 Sept 1792, min Wm Harvey Carroll, Daniel, & Elizabeth Emmitt, 29 Nov 1791; d. of Jacob & Barbara (is this the same as the above CARROL listing??) Carroll, Dempsey & Jane Arnold, 4 Jan 1822, min James Walls Carroll, James & Mary Ann Shoe, 2 Jun 1835, b. Abraham Shoe Carroll, Jesse & Genny Niutt, 18 Feb 1800, min James Walls Carroll, John & Philadelphia Ashby, 25 Jul 1822, min Thomas Littleton Carroll, William & Elizabeth Morgan, 16 Oct 1800; min Alexander Balmain p. 273 Carroll, Ann & Thomas Young, 16 Oct 1800, min Alexander Balmain Per "Shenandoah County Marriages" by Vogt & Kethley p. 195 Shoe, Abraham & Susanna Gibbons, 9 Apr 1816, bondsman, John Gibbons Show, Augustine & Dorothy Stickley, 18 Jun 1803, Bondsman, Christian Stover Shoe, Joseph & Margaret Trouberg, 4 Jun 1801: widow p. 291 Gibbons, Sarah & James Tribbet, 4 Jan 1816, daughter of Isaac (also lists Susannah, as above) p. 101 Gibbons, John & Elizabeth Keffer, 1 Jul 1810, daughter of John Keffer This marriage of John & Elizabeth is not the right time to be parents of Susanna, perhaps a brother? Or a second marriage? Could Susanna be related to Sarah Gibbons & Isaac? There are several Gibbons listed in "Historical Records of Old Frederick County, VA" by Dr. Wilmer Kerns, but none that connect to the above. They are all born mid 1700's. On p. 165-167 Dr. Kerns lists what seems to be the above "Emmitt/Emett" family as EMMART. He lists Jacob & Barbara EMMART as having a son Henry. The rest of the listings seems to be descendants of this Henry. 1850 census Rockingham Co. VA Shue, Abraham, 64, tanner, b. VA Shue, Susan, 56 (this fits the 1816 marriage, and eliminates this Abraham as being the one married to THursay Bateman...) Rebecca, 33 Mary, 21 (unlikely that they would have 2 daughters named Mary???- or could this be a granddaughter???) Samuel, 16 1830 also has an Abraham Shoe in Berkeley Co., VA Males 1 5-10 1 15-20 1 30-40 Females 1 15-20 (seems to fit your Mary Ann???) 1 30-40 Good Luck!

    09/27/2004 06:34:29
    1. Re: Wagoner or Stine/Stein or Michael Price
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/1025.1020 Message Board Post: Descendants of Geroge Washington Stine 1 Geroge Washington Stine 1859 - . +Emma (Emily) Brill 1860 - ... 2 Samuel M. Stine ... 2 Bennet C. Stine ... 2 Luther Stine ... 2 Viola Stine ... 2 Inez Stine

    09/27/2004 04:09:57
    1. Re: Davis Family
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gAC.2ACE/1774.1 Message Board Post: Oh, hope this fits for you-- I have lots of Cull info and later on my family has Fletcher Davis in it!!!1 ==== Mary Nancy Cull (F) b. circa 1740, d. circa 1808, #5443 Last Edited 5 Mar 2003 Charts Alexander Ancestor chart Pedigree for Alexander Christopher Mullins Birth* circa 1740 Orange, Virgina Marriage* circa 1760 Edward Davis; Frederick, Virginia Married Name Davis Death* circa 1808 Mercer, Kentucky CoParent circa 1738 Edward Davis Daughter* 21 February 1763 Ruth Davis+ Judith Cull

    09/27/2004 04:05:48
    1. Carroll & Shue
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CARROLL, SHUE, SHUH Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2703 Message Board Post: James (Robert?) Carroll, born abt 1807 VA, married Mary Ann Shue, born abt 1818 VA, 1835 in Frederick Co, VA. By 1836 they were in OH where their first child was born. I am trying to find any family of James and Mary Ann. I have no other early information on this couple. Thank you, Sandi Whitty [email protected]

    09/27/2004 12:56:10
    1. Re: Runnymeade
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ferguson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2380.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Is Hugh Ferguson possibly related to Henry Ferguson(born about 1760 in Virginia)? My gggg grandfather Henry Ferguson was in Frederick Co. Virginia and moved to Harrison County Kentucky and to Grant Co Kentucky and died in Grant Co Kentucky in 1825. His son Henry Ferguson(born 1811) in Kentucky is my ggg Grandfather. Henry (1811) had a half brother from his fathers second marriage that was named Hugh Ferguson. I believe that the family also might have spent some time in Sevior Co. Tenn. between Frederik Co. Virginia and Harrison and Grant Co. Kentucky.

    09/23/2004 02:34:09
    1. Re: Will Book 6
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2702.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the information. What I have to go on at this point is a one-page family tree handed down to me in the 1950's by Morton's grand-daughter, Mary Bourn Barnett. On this one-page, tree Morton's wife is simply listed Elizabeth Greenlee -- no other info on her. Her father is listed as David Greenlee whose spouse's last name is shown as CRUM and the note that "both died before 1832". Wes

    09/22/2004 08:46:13
    1. Re: Martin Bowen or Morton Bowen
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gAC.2ACE/2702.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the information. I do not have a copy of the marriage bond. All I have to go on at this point is a one-page family tree handed down to me in the 1950's by Morton's grand-daughter, Mary Bourn Barnett. Wes

    09/22/2004 08:42:16