Virginia, My interest was peaked by your post as I have Saunders, and a brother of my John Hyde Saunders, Jr., moved to Pittsylvania area as an early settler (Peter Hyde Saunders). There is considerable information on his descendants in "Roots in Virginia" by Nathaniel Claiborne Hale. I have a gedcom which I believe includes all of that information from the "Saunders Treehouse" website at www.familytreemaker.com (I don't know exactly what the URL is, but if you go there and enter a search for Lipscomb Wash, my ggg grandfather who m. Elizabeth Saunders, niece of Peter Hyde, it will come up quickly as there is very little on Lipscomb). I didn't find a Mary Saunders marrying Silas Payne there, BUT like most family histories the book seems to folllow a small group of Peter Hyde Saunders descendants, mostly those from Judge Fleming Saunders. Also re PAYNES. There is an online book on the Joseph and Phoebe Payne family of Bedford Co VA, that veers south to Franklin and then points beyond. The URL is: http://w3.one.net/~evaughan/vaughan/wilson.htm There are some Silas Paynes there, but they are too late, but there might be some clues to help you. It has an index (see link for it). FYI, Elizabeth Saunders sister Sarah, daughter of John Hyde Saunders Jr., married Roderick PAYNE. 1827 in Powhatan Co VA. Peter Hyde was the only one of the children of John Hyde Saunders Sr. to migrate to the VA "frontier" and is acknowledged with his Pittsylvania land in John Hyde Sr.s will. Best Regards, Janet (Baugh) Hunter