Cuzn Bud, I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who married Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought it was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother or cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John was born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could have participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I have no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where she got the information. By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according to Wingfield. A relative of yours? What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son William who married Jane HUNTER... I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. Carolyn HALE BRUCE, DAR, IBSSG, VBGS Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. abt 1804, Floyd or Franklin > Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah > Wade > in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? > I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two of > his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have John's > father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. > > My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could have > used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where > William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to > Valley > Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, was > in > many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at Stony > Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and went > on > to marry Jane King.

Was this Susannah Wade kin of Daniel Tyler family? Daniel Tyler named one of his children Elizabeth Wade Tyler and another Susannah. Gerald Preas --- Carolyn Bruce <cdhbruce@cox.net> wrote: > Cuzn Bud, > > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their > son William who married > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was > born, but it's thought it > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility > that he was a brother or > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes > PRICE, and if John was > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army > later, he could have > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death > date as 1833, but I have > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and > I don't know where she > got the information. > > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert > JONES, according to > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann > (HILL?) and son William > who married Jane HUNTER... > > I also descend from KINGs... but before the > Revolution by a generation. > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > See all the books we publish at: > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was > Simpson RICHARDS,b. abt > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > > > Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > > The Hale of most likely age would have been John > who married Sussannah > > Wade > > in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a > bit too young? > > I do not have his birth or death dates. I have > additional info on two of > > his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my > ancestors. I have John's > > father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no > other info. > > > > My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I > believe they could have > > used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I > have found info where > > William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining > up and marching to > > Valley > > Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette > under Washington, was > > in > > many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with > General Wayne at Stony > > Point when it was captured. He was honorably > discharged in 1780 and went > > on > > to marry Jane King. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a > "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the > surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

I descend from Shadrack Turner and Ann Hill and also King's. King's are in two different surname lines. Does anyone know if the Jones mentioned is related to Charles Jones who married Mary "Polly" King abt. 1790? They were in Henry Co. VA. She was a daughter of Rev. John King. I have been unable to find names of parents of Charles Jones. His daughter, Betsy, married Sylvester Webb of Henry Co. in 1816. Thanks for any information. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Bruce To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? Cuzn Bud, I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who married Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought it was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother or cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John was born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could have participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I have no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where she got the information. By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according to Wingfield. A relative of yours? What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son William who married Jane HUNTER... I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. Carolyn HALE BRUCE, DAR, IBSSG, VBGS Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. abt 1804, Floyd or Franklin > Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah > Wade > in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? > I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two of > his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have John's > father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. > > My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could have > used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where > William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to > Valley > Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, was > in > many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at Stony > Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and went > on > to marry Jane King. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, gen42, Looks like we are cousins by way of Shadrack Turner, My name is Bud Jones, who are you? The only Charles Jones I have is Charles Henry Jones (b.31 dec 1836-d. 25 mar1900) son of Isaac Madison Jones and Emma Hill. This Charles married Sarah Sigmon (b.1834-d.3 aug 1893) on 17 dec 1863, in Franklin Co., Va. Isaac Madison Jones was the son of William Jones (1776-1848) who was the son of Thomas Jones (b. 5 jul 1748- d.22 mar 1830), the aformentioned revolutionary war soldier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gen42" <gen42@comcast.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? >I descend from Shadrack Turner and Ann Hill and also King's. King's are in >two different surname lines. > > Does anyone know if the Jones mentioned is related to Charles Jones who > married Mary "Polly" King abt. 1790? They were in Henry Co. VA. She was a > daughter of Rev. John King. I have been unable to find names of parents > of Charles Jones. His daughter, Betsy, married Sylvester Webb of Henry > Co. in 1816. > > Thanks for any information. > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carolyn Bruce > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > > Cuzn Bud, > > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who > married > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought it > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother or > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John > was > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could have > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I > have > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where > she > got the information. > > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according to > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son William > who married Jane HUNTER... > > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > See all the books we publish at: > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. > abt > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > > > Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > > The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah > > Wade > > in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? > > I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two > of > > his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have > John's > > father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. > > > > My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could > have > > used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where > > William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to > > Valley > > Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, > was > > in > > many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at > Stony > > Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and > went > > on > > to marry Jane King. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Cuzn Carolyn, This is getting toooo complicated! I have not tied the Robert Jones that performed the marriage of John Hale and Susannah Wade to my line yet. I do have a Robert Jones who was married to Marie VanMeter daughter of John VanMeter and Sarah Bodine. This Robert was the father of the revolutionary war Thomas Jones that my sisters uesd to join the DAR. Don't know if they are one and the same Robert. Now getting to the Turners: I am decended from the same Shadrack and Ann Hill Turner as you, through their son William who married Jane Hunter. My line goes on down through their son Josiah Hunter Turner who married Drucilla P. Philpot on 11 Mar 1810. Their son Meshack then married Sarah Ann DeShazo 7 Sep 1842. Their son George King Turner was my great grandfather. Sarah Ann DeShazo's father was George King DeShazo. George's dad was William of revolutionary war fame mentined in the earlier e-mail. William's wife Jane King's father was George King also in the war. George King married Mary Niblet. Jane Hunter's parents were William Hunter and Charity Loftis. As you know Ben Franklin was the US's first postmaster-- well, he had a partner in Virginia who was named William Hunter. I would love to prove these two William Hunters one and the same. I have been to William Turner, Josiah H. Turner, Meshack Turner and George K.Turner's graves. Do you know where Shadrack's grave is? I also have a picture of Shadrick's house in Henry, Virginia. It has been restored by another cousin (Harry Lee King Jr.-4th once removed to me) and is on the National Register. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > Cuzn Bud, > > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who > married > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought it > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother or > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John > was > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could have > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I > have > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where she > got the information. > > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according to > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son William > who married Jane HUNTER... > > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > See all the books we publish at: > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. abt > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > >> Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. >> The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah >> Wade >> in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? >> I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two of >> his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have >> John's >> father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. >> >> My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could have >> used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where >> William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to >> Valley >> Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, was >> in >> many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at Stony >> Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and went >> on >> to marry Jane King. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >