Dear Charles, I took a look at the census for James & Sarah Trail Graley and for John Terry & Nancy Graley. I have no other documents, but I would guess that you are right. John & Nancy live near William Allen & Susannah in 1850 & 1860. William & Susannah's daughter, Ruth Allen married Thomas Graley (b. abt 1812) Thomas and Nancy were probably siblings. William & Susannah's daughter, Elizabeth married William Trail, who is most likely Sarah Trail's brother. Both are probably children of Thomas Trail. Also, it seems to fit the M.O. The Trail's and the Terry's were millers. They married later in life. Many members of these families migrated north to Mercer Co., West VA. I could always find marriage records for the Trail's and Allen's in either Floyd or Franklin. I didn't see anything for John Terry and Nancy Graley. Judging by the age of her oldest child in 1850, I would guess they would have been married around 1836. I know some other couples who I can't find any marriage record for around then. I think some were lost. Good luck. I will let you know if I find anything. Linda Jo Groton, MA [email protected] Subject: Shooting & Runnet Bag creek people Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:46:44 EDT Hey all, Are any of you Shooting and Runnet Bag Creek people familiar with any Graley, Trail, or Terry persons from ca. 1800-1860? These are my groups in that area. John Terry (b. Buckingham Co., ca. 1790) came to the area (ca.1830?) and married Nancy Graley (b. 1815). He was a blacksmith and miller (according to the census) and died in the 1860s. He was a lot older than she was. She moved with her children to Monroe Co. after he died, where they were living in 1870. I think he may have been the son of a Joseph Terry, Rev.War vet, but I have no documentation. I'm fairly certain she was the daughter of James Graley and Sarah Trail. I really need information other than census data, such as deeds and such, that might give me clues or specific facts that I cannot find elsewhere. Any information would be appreciated. Charles