Mt Ivy Christian Church, I thought the address was Redwood , Va. Go down 40 East, pass Redwood Market, go about a 1/2 mile and turn left. When you get to the road that goes either bares to the right, bears to the left or goes straight. GO straight (it use to be rt. 655) Go for several miles and you will hit a forks of the road, you can go staight , right or left. Go straight. Stay on that road until it ends and on he right is Mr. Ivy Church. Keep in mind these are memories of how I gotto the church as a teenager, I could take you now, but I don't know all the road numbers. when you are at thechurch you will see the lake. Thanks, donna ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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The only info I have is from Scott Co Death records that my James C Hale was son of Johnathan Hale .Johnathan Hale's death record lists age which made him born around 1796 and lists place of birth as Franklin Co,Va.Death record states that he was born to Richard and Mattilde (hard to Read ??)Hale .My brother has voluntered to do dna test for this but I am not sure which test to use .What company did you use? Nancy ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi, KY girl, My dad was born at Callaway, about five miles (on twisting roads) north of Ferrum, VA. Pigg River flows between those two towns. Dad was the son of Walker Claytor HALE, son of Lewis Peter HALE, son of William N(ichols) HALE, son of John HALE. We have (meaning my brother) joined the HALE DNA research, and we are NOT descendants of Joseph HALE who d. in Patrick CoVA 1804. We are NOT descendants of Nicholas HALE of 1600s Lancaster CoVA. We are NOT descended from Edward HALE who d. Giles CoVA 1820. We are distant kin to Archelaus HALE, (3 markers off out of 37) and Thomas HALE, Rev. War soldier (4 markers off out of 37). Sometimes researchers refer to our branch as the "Turner's Creek HALEs". Hope this helps. Carolyn HALE BRUCE Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!)

Thank you, Donna. Now when I come see you we can start making a list of places to go see when we are messing in old cemeteries in that area! ; ) Kay In a message dated 7/19/07 7:15:27 PM Mountain Daylight Time, ddoss4@cox.net writes: > Scruggs is off Rt. 122 near Moneta and Halesford Bridge area of Smith Mtn. > Lake. > > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:47 PM > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Mt Ivy Christian Church Records > > Thanks, Suzy, there were a bunch of those that don't show the light of day > now unless one can find a knowledgable "local". > Kay > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

This url to a Mapquest map shows Scruggs, VA, being east of Burnt Chimney and close to Smith Mountain Lake. Don't know if you can just click on it and get there, but you can go to Mapquest.com and simply put Scruggs VA in the appropriate boxes to get to this same map. http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=Scruggs&state=VA&zipcode= I, too am a TURNER descendant, but I believe mine were in the opposite end of the county... Hope this helps, Carolyn HALE BRUCE Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: <KMorris568@aol.com> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Mt Ivy Christian Church Records > Thanks Sheila -- The Saunders and Turners were ancestral family names. > Now > hmmm, I wonder where Scrugs, VA was located. I looked in my Atlas and > couldn't > find it now. >snip< >

Could you give me the location of the Hales in that area? Nancy Jenkins ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Scruggs is off Rt. 122 near Moneta and Halesford Bridge area of Smith Mtn. Lake. -----Original Message----- From: vafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KMorris568@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:47 PM To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Mt Ivy Christian Church Records Thanks, Suzy, there were a bunch of those that don't show the light of day now unless one can find a knowledgable "local". Kay In a message dated 7/19/07 2:29:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time, SuzyH2610@aol.com writes: > My Gazetteer of Virginia only lists it as "post village in Franklin > County" > > Suzy ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, Wow, I'm so happy I've had interest in this info. I haven't really had a lot of time to sit down and reply to everyone, but I thought I'd send a note to the list and tell ya'll what I will do as soon as I have time. Beverly Merritt administers the Franklin County Homepage and she has emailed me to see if I would like to put this info. on that website so that others can search it. I promise I will type it up for her as soon as I can. I have it hand-transcribed in a 70 page notebook, so it will take a little time. I can certainly do look-ups, but there are some names that have many entries, probably too many to list (w/out almost transcribing the whole book anyway). ( : Please continue to send requests and I will get to them as soon as I can, but I will also work on getting this info. to Beverly as soon as I can, too. I'm really glad folks are interested. BTW, Scruggs is in Franklin County at Smith Mountain Lake. If you are trying to find it on a map, look for Rt. 122 at the area very close to the Bedford/Franklin County line. 122 intersects with Rt. 616. Follow 616 basically all the way out and that is Scruggs. The road ends (pretty much) at Smith Mtn. Lake (area of the lake is called Gills Creek). The lake was built in the early 60s, and much of the land where my relatives lived is now under water or very near the water. Since I have become interested in my family's history, I have been saddened that the lake covers so much of their history. There was a footbridge over a little river (large creek, whatever) where my mother used to go fishing and I have a cute picture of her with a beau holding fishing poles. ( : Sheila ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433

The Pigg River, on my Franklin County Early Settlement, appears to start in the Western Part of Franklin County, Va meanders Eastward. Now, where does it end, Walker Creek, ? This map has so many early names, 1700s, and size about 2" x 3'. I think the map can be ordered from Franklin County Historical Society. It is hand lettered so look ups would be too hard. I do have the Turners, Dickerson's, Burwell, some Hales, and a Parker kin easy access to their locations. Gerald Preas Dallas Tx

Thanks, Suzy, there were a bunch of those that don't show the light of day now unless one can find a knowledgable "local". Kay In a message dated 7/19/07 2:29:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time, SuzyH2610@aol.com writes: > My Gazetteer of Virginia only lists it as "post village in Franklin > County" > > Suzy ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Now what is of interest is Sarah Hatcher born 1661 is married twice once to Matthew Turpin and then to Joseph Tanner ,thus these folks are my Cousin lines off William Hatcher born 1613 and died on swift creek Henrico Co. Va. and will also be cousin to my Choate lines and to my Renfro Lines. Sarah Hatcher is off the Lines of Edward Hatcher married to Mary Ward. Sarah hatcher's brother Edward Hatcher and his in law Robert Burton own lands on Tuckahoe Creek in 1680-1700 era. His neighbor is one Michael Johnson who died 1718 on Tuckahoe Creek lands in this time era are in Henrico Co. Va. Michael Johnson is the DNA that I match to on my Hudson Johnson lines who died in 1828 Dickson Co. Tn that are married to the Choate-Renfro Connections. Then they marry into the William Hatcher lines of Dickson and Humphreys County Tn. ----- Original Message ----- From: janethunter703@aol.com<mailto:janethunter703@aol.com> To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com<mailto:vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rentfroes Hello Everyone, A branch of this Renfro family being discussed eventually wound up in Dade County Missouri, where they moved right in and in some cases intermarried with my Bird, Choate, Simmons & other families (and their fellow travelers) who had origins in Franklin County...via Robertson County TN (area around Cross Plains and east almost to White House on the Sumner County border -- deeds refer to Sulphur Fork of the Red River). The connections with the Renfros are found in many places in between and beyond, following various branches of these families hither and yon. The patriarch of this Dade County branch was Absalom Renfro, and wife Mary Penn. He is said to be the son of Lewis Renfro and Sarah Absalom, son of James Renfro and Lydia Harris, son of William Renfro and Elizabeth Cheney. I got this information from the following WorldConnect website which has an awful lot of documentation, though I have problems with the Quaker Pennsylvanians ending up in James City County VA (wayy over on the Chesapeake Bay), as is indicated. Maybe some of you can enlight me on this, though it makes sense with the Turpin connection. The following link is to Moses Renfro and (a) Hannah Rentfro and (b) Elizabeth Turpin. _http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=deloreswilley&id=I12882_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=deloreswilley&id=I12882<http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=deloreswilley&id=I12882>) I have separate connections with the Turpin family, via my Bentleys in Powhatan Co. VA in the late 1700s, early 1800s. I have not researched any of the above Renfros, but thought you all might like all the information hidden in the above website (regardless of accuracy to which I can't attest). Best Regards, Janet (Baugh) Hunter ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour<http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com<mailto:doreatr@rbnet.com> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl<http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interesting as my Renfro's are also married into the Choate and the Byrd-Bird families in Dickson and Humphreys County Tn. I descend from the below Choate-Renfro connections. Then they marry into the Bird families of Humphreys County Tn. Eleanor Renfro born aby 1775 married to John R. Choate born abt 1770 Lunenburg County Va. John Choate died 1835 in Dickson Co. Tn. John R. Choate is the son of Squire Choat and his wife Elizabeth Keith. ( My line of descent) Eleanor Renfro had a sister named Elizabeth Renfro and a brother named Robert Renfro Elizabeth Renfro was married to Thomas Kyle Choate ( a cousin to John R. Choate) As Thomas Kyle Choate comes off Thomas Choate and Elizabeth Ann Keith of Halifax County Va. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: janethunter703@aol.com<mailto:janethunter703@aol.com> To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com<mailto:vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rentfroes Hello Everyone, A branch of this Renfro family being discussed eventually wound up in Dade County Missouri, where they moved right in and in some cases intermarried with my Bird, Choate, Simmons & other families (and their fellow travelers) who had origins in Franklin County...via Robertson County TN (area around Cross Plains and east almost to White House on the Sumner County border -- deeds refer to Sulphur Fork of the Red River). The connections with the Renfros are found in many places in between and beyond, following various branches of these families hither and yon. The patriarch of this Dade County branch was Absalom Renfro, and wife Mary Penn. He is said to be the son of Lewis Renfro and Sarah Absalom, son of James Renfro and Lydia Harris, son of William Renfro and Elizabeth Cheney. I got this information from the following WorldConnect website which has an awful lot of documentation, though I have problems with the Quaker Pennsylvanians ending up in James City County VA (wayy over on the Chesapeake Bay), as is indicated. Maybe some of you can enlight me on this, though it makes sense with the Turpin connection. The following link is to Moses Renfro and (a) Hannah Rentfro and (b) Elizabeth Turpin. _http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=deloreswilley&id=I12882_ (http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=deloreswilley&id=I12882<http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=deloreswilley&id=I12882>) I have separate connections with the Turpin family, via my Bentleys in Powhatan Co. VA in the late 1700s, early 1800s. I have not researched any of the above Renfros, but thought you all might like all the information hidden in the above website (regardless of accuracy to which I can't attest). Best Regards, Janet (Baugh) Hunter ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour<http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com<mailto:doreatr@rbnet.com> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl<http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Suzy, ELIMINATE the underscores before and after the URL. That's the trick. Sometimes they appear with parentheses in these emails (done upon sending the email not before)...Same goes. You need the whole thing (not half). Address should start with "http" and end with "I12882". Copy and paste, then get rid of the underscores if you can't copy and paste without them. I just double checked and it works. Great documentation there! (Or documents anyway). Good Luck! Janet In a message dated 7/19/2007 1:43:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SuzyH2610@aol.com writes: _http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=deloreswilley&id=I12882_ Janet, The above web site doesn't work for me. I tried the whole thing and then cut it in half. Any suggestions? Suzy ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In a message dated 7/19/2007 1:19:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, KMorris568@aol.com writes: Thanks Sheila -- The Saunders and Turners were ancestral family names. Now hmmm, I wonder where Scrugs, VA was located. I looked in my Atlas and couldn't find it now. I appreciate you taking the time to post. Kay Morris My Gazetteer of Virginia only lists it as "post village in Franklin County" Suzy ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Thanks Sheila -- The Saunders and Turners were ancestral family names. Now hmmm, I wonder where Scrugs, VA was located. I looked in my Atlas and couldn't find it now. I appreciate you taking the time to post. Kay Morris In a message dated 7/17/07 5:59:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time, sarkyrie@yahoo.com writes: > Hello, > I wanted to let anyone who was interested know that I have records from Mt. > Ivy Christian Church in Scruggs, VA dated from 1895 to the early 1900s. I > was fortunate enough to borrow the church register a few years ago, and I > transcribed the whole book. I do not have the ability at this time to publish > this information (nor do I know if I could legally), but I would be glad to do > lookups for anyone who is interested in information from this period of time. > > > By the way, I looked up Dickenson for KMorris568@aol.com and there were no > entries. Some of the names listed are: > > Ayers > Bradley > Brown > Dillon > Dudley > English > Hutcherson > Martin > Maxey > McBride > Pagans > Pasley > Saunders > Turner > Wilson > Wuergler > Yeatts > > I would hope that I could help someone out there. ( : > Sheila Rigney > sarkyrie@yahoo.com > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi Jan -- I know those headaches. In my parent's last 40 years of life they lived in Cahokia, St. Clair Co., IL. Across the street were close friends by the name of Norman. I know that Norman family were long time IL residents with ancestors in the same IL area you are looking. Jefferson Co. is in the middle of southern Illinois and St. Clair Co. is an hour drive directly east and located on the Missippi River across from St. Louis, MO. Most of the people I grew up with in Cahokia lived there to work in St. Louis. At the moment I cannot recall the given name of the father of that Norman family but I'll check Mom's phone book. They had several children and when I left our old home in Cahokia one of the daughter's still lived across the street with her husband and family. I don't know if that is any help but clues are clues till you start digging and then sometimes they become facts! Kay Morris In a message dated 7/17/07 3:49:32 PM Mountain Daylight Time, OnTheRanch@hughes.net writes: > So, does anyone have connections between any of these surnames that > might help me broaden my search? I would REALLY appreciate any help you > can give on this matter. ************************************** Get a sneak > peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Thank you Don and Gerald -- It's nice to possibly put this puzzle in place. My mother (1911 - 2003) would comment about this family friend and that. I kept my ears open for any clues to possible family ties. These two families -- the Dickinsons and the Overstreets -- she mentioned often. I believe they were close friendships of the Hodges family that extended way back to their years in Franklin Co.; then the friendships continued when they moved to MO. My grandfather (1879 - 1935) was a newspaper owner/editor and also a MO state legislator. He had the opportunity to travel extensively throughout the state and was able to keep up many old family ties. Unfortunately the part of my family that had posession of his personal papers and those of older members of the family deliberately burned them all in a fit of spite. I know that included letters written to family and associates by both my great grandfather (during his years serving in the Civil War) and my grandfather's personal journals. What a loss! But I appreciate both of you taking the time to maybe sort out the meaning of saving this little newspaper clipping for me. Kay Morris In a message dated 7/17/07 11:26:43 AM Mountain Daylight Time, gpreas@swbell.net writes: > Thomas Overstreet Jr named one his sons George > Dickinson Overstreet, and George moved to Jackson > County Mo on 1850 Census. There is some unknown > connections to Overstreets, Robertsons, and Dickinson. > Jeffery Robertson surety for Littleberry and Polly > Higgins, marriage Bedford County Va 1816, brother of > George. These families lived in Bedford and Franklin > Counties 1780s. > gerald preas > dallas tx > --- DDickenson@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 7/17/2007 7:17:34 A.M. Pacific > > Daylight Time, > > KMorris568@aol.com writes: > > > > My great-great grandfather Isham Hodges, born ca > > 1792, was also a blacksmith > > and farmer in the same area of Franklin Co. > > > > > > > > Evidence that the Hodges and Dickensons owned > > adjacent land in Franklin Co. > > (John Dickenson was my 4th great grandfather and the > > grandfather of Samuel > > Noten Dickenson). > > > > > > February 1, 1781 - Henry Co., VA > > John Dickenson received patent for 219 acres on > > both sides of Pigg River, > > adjoining William Hodges' land. (Patents C, page > > 231) > > > > March 1, 1781 - Henry Co., VA > > John Dickenson received patent for 420 acres on > > Pigg River, adjoining Isham > > Hodges. (Patents C, page 507) > > > > > > > > Don Dickenson ************************************** Get a sneak peek of > the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In a message dated 7/19/2007 5:21:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, janethunter703@aol.com writes: _http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=deloreswilley&id=I12882_ Janet, The above web site doesn't work for me. I tried the whole thing and then cut it in half. Any suggestions? Suzy ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour