Oops, sorry I was off by ten years on Harry Lee. He must 91 by now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > The info I remember from Harry Lee King and Andrew Gravely was that it was > started by Shadrack but not sure he lived long to live in it. It was > taken over by a son. The National Register of Historic Places plaque > indicates circa 1780. My info indicates Shadrack died in 1783. > > Is Harry Lee still alive? Last time I saw him was in 2000 but I haven't > seen an obit. He would be about 101 now. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathe Martin" <kmartin@librarytech.com> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > >> When I talked with Harry King about his house a few years back, he >> said that he thought it had been built by Shadrach's son Larkin. I'm >> curious about it being built by Shadrach. Do you have a construction >> date? >> >> Great to meet cousins! >> >> Kathe Young Martin >> >> >>>Do you know the parents or origin of Charity Loftus, wife of William >>>Hunter? >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Bud Jones >>> To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:54 PM >>> Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? >>> >>> >>> Cuzn Carolyn, >>> This is getting toooo complicated! I have not tied the Robert Jones >>> that >>> performed the marriage of John Hale and Susannah Wade to my line >>> yet. I do >>> have a Robert Jones who was married to Marie VanMeter daughter of John >>> VanMeter and Sarah Bodine. This Robert was the father of the >>> revolutionary >>> war Thomas Jones that my sisters uesd to join the DAR. Don't know if >>> they >>> are one and the same Robert. >>> >>> Now getting to the Turners: I am decended from the same Shadrack and >>> Ann >>> Hill Turner as you, through their son William who married Jane Hunter. >>> My >>> line goes on down through their son Josiah Hunter Turner who married >>> Drucilla P. Philpot on 11 Mar 1810. Their son Meshack then married >>> Sarah >>> Ann DeShazo 7 Sep 1842. Their son George King Turner was my great >>> grandfather. >>> >>> Sarah Ann DeShazo's father was George King DeShazo. George's dad was >>> William of revolutionary war fame mentined in the earlier >>> e-mail. William's >>> wife Jane King's father was George King also in the war. George King >>> married Mary Niblet. >>> >>> Jane Hunter's parents were William Hunter and Charity Loftis. As you >>> know >>> Ben Franklin was the US's first postmaster-- well, he had a partner in >>> Virginia who was named William Hunter. I would love to prove these >>> two >>> William Hunters one and the same. >>> >>> I have been to William Turner, Josiah H. Turner, Meshack Turner and >>> George >>> K.Turner's graves. Do you know where Shadrack's grave is? I also >>> have a >>> picture of Shadrick's house in Henry, Virginia. It has been restored >>> by >>> another cousin (Harry Lee King Jr.-4th once removed to me) and is on >>> the >>> National Register. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> >>> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? >>> >>> >>> > Cuzn Bud, >>> > >>> > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who >>> > married >>> > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's >>> thought it >>> > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a >>> brother or >>> > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if >>> John >>> > was >>> > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could >>> have >>> > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, >>> but I >>> > have >>> > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't >>> know where she >>> > got the information. >>> > >>> > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, >>> according to >>> > Wingfield. A relative of yours? >>> > >>> > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son >>> William >>> > who married Jane HUNTER... >>> > >>> > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a >>> generation. >>> > >>> > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, >>> > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS >>> > >>> > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots >>> > Rebel King, The Har'ships and >>> > Rebel King, Bannok Burn >>> > >>> > See all the books we publish at: >>> > www.bruceandbruceinc.com >>> > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> >>> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM >>> > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson >>> RICHARDS,b. abt >>> > 1804, Floyd or Franklin >>> > >>> > >>> >> Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. >>> >> The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married >>> Sussannah >>> >> Wade >>> >> in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? >>> >> I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional >>> info on two of >>> >> his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have >>> >> John's >>> >> father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. >>> >> >>> >> My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could >>> have >>> >> used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info >>> where >>> >> William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching >>> to >>> >> Valley >>> >> Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under >>> Washington, was >>> >> in >>> >> many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General >>> Wayne at Stony >>> >> Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in >>> 1780 and went >>> >> on >>> >> to marry Jane King. >>> > >>> > >>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" >>> Roll >>> > Call. 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The info I remember from Harry Lee King and Andrew Gravely was that it was started by Shadrack but not sure he lived long to live in it. It was taken over by a son. The National Register of Historic Places plaque indicates circa 1780. My info indicates Shadrack died in 1783. Is Harry Lee still alive? Last time I saw him was in 2000 but I haven't seen an obit. He would be about 101 now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathe Martin" <kmartin@librarytech.com> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > When I talked with Harry King about his house a few years back, he > said that he thought it had been built by Shadrach's son Larkin. I'm > curious about it being built by Shadrach. Do you have a construction date? > > Great to meet cousins! > > Kathe Young Martin > > >>Do you know the parents or origin of Charity Loftus, wife of William >>Hunter? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Bud Jones >> To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? >> >> >> Cuzn Carolyn, >> This is getting toooo complicated! I have not tied the Robert Jones >> that >> performed the marriage of John Hale and Susannah Wade to my line >> yet. I do >> have a Robert Jones who was married to Marie VanMeter daughter of John >> VanMeter and Sarah Bodine. This Robert was the father of the >> revolutionary >> war Thomas Jones that my sisters uesd to join the DAR. Don't know if >> they >> are one and the same Robert. >> >> Now getting to the Turners: I am decended from the same Shadrack and >> Ann >> Hill Turner as you, through their son William who married Jane Hunter. >> My >> line goes on down through their son Josiah Hunter Turner who married >> Drucilla P. Philpot on 11 Mar 1810. Their son Meshack then married >> Sarah >> Ann DeShazo 7 Sep 1842. Their son George King Turner was my great >> grandfather. >> >> Sarah Ann DeShazo's father was George King DeShazo. George's dad was >> William of revolutionary war fame mentined in the earlier >> e-mail. William's >> wife Jane King's father was George King also in the war. George King >> married Mary Niblet. >> >> Jane Hunter's parents were William Hunter and Charity Loftis. As you >> know >> Ben Franklin was the US's first postmaster-- well, he had a partner in >> Virginia who was named William Hunter. I would love to prove these two >> William Hunters one and the same. >> >> I have been to William Turner, Josiah H. Turner, Meshack Turner and >> George >> K.Turner's graves. Do you know where Shadrack's grave is? I also have >> a >> picture of Shadrick's house in Henry, Virginia. It has been restored >> by >> another cousin (Harry Lee King Jr.-4th once removed to me) and is on >> the >> National Register. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> >> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? >> >> >> > Cuzn Bud, >> > >> > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who >> > married >> > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's >> thought it >> > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a >> brother or >> > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if >> John >> > was >> > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could >> have >> > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but >> I >> > have >> > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't >> know where she >> > got the information. >> > >> > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according >> to >> > Wingfield. A relative of yours? >> > >> > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son >> William >> > who married Jane HUNTER... >> > >> > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a >> generation. >> > >> > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, >> > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS >> > >> > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots >> > Rebel King, The Har'ships and >> > Rebel King, Bannok Burn >> > >> > See all the books we publish at: >> > www.bruceandbruceinc.com >> > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> >> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM >> > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson >> RICHARDS,b. abt >> > 1804, Floyd or Franklin >> > >> > >> >> Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. >> >> The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married >> Sussannah >> >> Wade >> >> in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? >> >> I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional >> info on two of >> >> his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have >> >> John's >> >> father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. >> >> >> >> My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could >> have >> >> used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info >> where >> >> William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching >> to >> >> Valley >> >> Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, >> was >> >> in >> >> many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General >> Wayne at Stony >> >> Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in >> 1780 and went >> >> on >> >> to marry Jane King. >> > >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" >> Roll >> > Call. 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When I talked with Harry King about his house a few years back, he said that he thought it had been built by Shadrach's son Larkin. I'm curious about it being built by Shadrach. Do you have a construction date? Great to meet cousins! Kathe Young Martin >Do you know the parents or origin of Charity Loftus, wife of William Hunter? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bud Jones > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:54 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > > Cuzn Carolyn, > This is getting toooo complicated! I have not tied the Robert Jones that > performed the marriage of John Hale and Susannah Wade to my line > yet. I do > have a Robert Jones who was married to Marie VanMeter daughter of John > VanMeter and Sarah Bodine. This Robert was the father of the > revolutionary > war Thomas Jones that my sisters uesd to join the DAR. Don't know if they > are one and the same Robert. > > Now getting to the Turners: I am decended from the same Shadrack and Ann > Hill Turner as you, through their son William who married Jane Hunter. My > line goes on down through their son Josiah Hunter Turner who married > Drucilla P. Philpot on 11 Mar 1810. Their son Meshack then married Sarah > Ann DeShazo 7 Sep 1842. Their son George King Turner was my great > grandfather. > > Sarah Ann DeShazo's father was George King DeShazo. George's dad was > William of revolutionary war fame mentined in the earlier > e-mail. William's > wife Jane King's father was George King also in the war. George King > married Mary Niblet. > > Jane Hunter's parents were William Hunter and Charity Loftis. As you know > Ben Franklin was the US's first postmaster-- well, he had a partner in > Virginia who was named William Hunter. I would love to prove these two > William Hunters one and the same. > > I have been to William Turner, Josiah H. Turner, Meshack Turner and George > K.Turner's graves. Do you know where Shadrack's grave is? I also have a > picture of Shadrick's house in Henry, Virginia. It has been restored by > another cousin (Harry Lee King Jr.-4th once removed to me) and is on the > National Register. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > > > Cuzn Bud, > > > > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who > > married > > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought it > > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother or > > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John > > was > > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could have > > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I > > have > > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't > know where she > > got the information. > > > > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according to > > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > > > > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son William > > who married Jane HUNTER... > > > > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. > > > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > > > See all the books we publish at: > > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson > RICHARDS,b. abt > > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > > > > >> Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > >> The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah > >> Wade > >> in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? > >> I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional > info on two of > >> his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have > >> John's > >> father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. > >> > >> My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could have > >> used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where > >> William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to > >> Valley > >> Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, was > >> in > >> many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General > Wayne at Stony > >> Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in > 1780 and went > >> on > >> to marry Jane King. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > > something about your Brick Wall person. > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Search this list's archived messages! > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" > Roll Call. 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I was wondering if there were any special hints or suggestions about visiting the county clerks office this summer. Jeannette

They were in Louisa Co. Va. and William Hunter was a son of Andrew Hunter of Louisa Co. That's all I know about them. Thanks. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Jones To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:27 PM Subject: [VAFRANKL] Charity Loftis Sorry, all I have in my computer file is her name, but I may be able to determine it's orgin from my paper "stack"! ----- Original Message ----- From: "gen42" <gen42@comcast.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > Do you know the parents or origin of Charity Loftus, wife of William > Hunter? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bud Jones > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:54 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > > Cuzn Carolyn, > This is getting toooo complicated! I have not tied the Robert Jones > that > performed the marriage of John Hale and Susannah Wade to my line yet. I > do > have a Robert Jones who was married to Marie VanMeter daughter of John > VanMeter and Sarah Bodine. This Robert was the father of the > revolutionary > war Thomas Jones that my sisters uesd to join the DAR. Don't know if > they > are one and the same Robert. > > Now getting to the Turners: I am decended from the same Shadrack and Ann > Hill Turner as you, through their son William who married Jane Hunter. > My > line goes on down through their son Josiah Hunter Turner who married > Drucilla P. Philpot on 11 Mar 1810. Their son Meshack then married Sarah > Ann DeShazo 7 Sep 1842. Their son George King Turner was my great > grandfather. > > Sarah Ann DeShazo's father was George King DeShazo. George's dad was > William of revolutionary war fame mentined in the earlier e-mail. > William's > wife Jane King's father was George King also in the war. George King > married Mary Niblet. > > Jane Hunter's parents were William Hunter and Charity Loftis. As you > know > Ben Franklin was the US's first postmaster-- well, he had a partner in > Virginia who was named William Hunter. I would love to prove these two > William Hunters one and the same. > > I have been to William Turner, Josiah H. Turner, Meshack Turner and > George > K.Turner's graves. Do you know where Shadrack's grave is? I also have a > picture of Shadrick's house in Henry, Virginia. It has been restored by > another cousin (Harry Lee King Jr.-4th once removed to me) and is on the > National Register. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > > > Cuzn Bud, > > > > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who > > married > > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought > it > > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother > or > > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John > > was > > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could > have > > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I > > have > > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where > she > > got the information. > > > > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according > to > > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > > > > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son > William > > who married Jane HUNTER... > > > > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. > > > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > > > See all the books we publish at: > > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. > abt > > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > > > > >> Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > >> The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah > >> Wade > >> in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? > >> I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two > of > >> his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have > >> John's > >> father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. > >> > >> My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could > have > >> used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info > where > >> William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to > >> Valley > >> Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, > was > >> in > >> many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at > Stony > >> Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and > went > >> on > >> to marry Jane King. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > > something about your Brick Wall person. > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Search this list's archived messages! > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. 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Sorry, all I have in my computer file is her name, but I may be able to determine it's orgin from my paper "stack"! ----- Original Message ----- From: "gen42" <gen42@comcast.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > Do you know the parents or origin of Charity Loftus, wife of William > Hunter? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bud Jones > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:54 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > > Cuzn Carolyn, > This is getting toooo complicated! I have not tied the Robert Jones > that > performed the marriage of John Hale and Susannah Wade to my line yet. I > do > have a Robert Jones who was married to Marie VanMeter daughter of John > VanMeter and Sarah Bodine. This Robert was the father of the > revolutionary > war Thomas Jones that my sisters uesd to join the DAR. Don't know if > they > are one and the same Robert. > > Now getting to the Turners: I am decended from the same Shadrack and Ann > Hill Turner as you, through their son William who married Jane Hunter. > My > line goes on down through their son Josiah Hunter Turner who married > Drucilla P. Philpot on 11 Mar 1810. Their son Meshack then married Sarah > Ann DeShazo 7 Sep 1842. Their son George King Turner was my great > grandfather. > > Sarah Ann DeShazo's father was George King DeShazo. George's dad was > William of revolutionary war fame mentined in the earlier e-mail. > William's > wife Jane King's father was George King also in the war. George King > married Mary Niblet. > > Jane Hunter's parents were William Hunter and Charity Loftis. As you > know > Ben Franklin was the US's first postmaster-- well, he had a partner in > Virginia who was named William Hunter. I would love to prove these two > William Hunters one and the same. > > I have been to William Turner, Josiah H. Turner, Meshack Turner and > George > K.Turner's graves. Do you know where Shadrack's grave is? I also have a > picture of Shadrick's house in Henry, Virginia. It has been restored by > another cousin (Harry Lee King Jr.-4th once removed to me) and is on the > National Register. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > > > Cuzn Bud, > > > > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who > > married > > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought > it > > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother > or > > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John > > was > > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could > have > > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I > > have > > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where > she > > got the information. > > > > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according > to > > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > > > > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son > William > > who married Jane HUNTER... > > > > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. > > > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > > > See all the books we publish at: > > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. > abt > > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > > > > >> Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > >> The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah > >> Wade > >> in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? > >> I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two > of > >> his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have > >> John's > >> father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. > >> > >> My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could > have > >> used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info > where > >> William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to > >> Valley > >> Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, > was > >> in > >> many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at > Stony > >> Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and > went > >> on > >> to marry Jane King. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > > something about your Brick Wall person. > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Search this list's archived messages! > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. 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Mary, gen42, Looks like we are cousins by way of Shadrack Turner, My name is Bud Jones, who are you? The only Charles Jones I have is Charles Henry Jones (b.31 dec 1836-d. 25 mar1900) son of Isaac Madison Jones and Emma Hill. This Charles married Sarah Sigmon (b.1834-d.3 aug 1893) on 17 dec 1863, in Franklin Co., Va. Isaac Madison Jones was the son of William Jones (1776-1848) who was the son of Thomas Jones (b. 5 jul 1748- d.22 mar 1830), the aformentioned revolutionary war soldier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gen42" <gen42@comcast.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? >I descend from Shadrack Turner and Ann Hill and also King's. King's are in >two different surname lines. > > Does anyone know if the Jones mentioned is related to Charles Jones who > married Mary "Polly" King abt. 1790? They were in Henry Co. VA. She was a > daughter of Rev. John King. I have been unable to find names of parents > of Charles Jones. His daughter, Betsy, married Sylvester Webb of Henry > Co. in 1816. > > Thanks for any information. > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carolyn Bruce > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > > Cuzn Bud, > > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who > married > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought it > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother or > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John > was > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could have > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I > have > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where > she > got the information. > > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according to > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son William > who married Jane HUNTER... > > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > See all the books we publish at: > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. > abt > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > > > Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > > The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah > > Wade > > in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? > > I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two > of > > his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have > John's > > father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. > > > > My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could > have > > used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where > > William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to > > Valley > > Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, > was > > in > > many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at > Stony > > Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and > went > > on > > to marry Jane King. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Do you know the parents or origin of Charity Loftus, wife of William Hunter? ----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Jones To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? Cuzn Carolyn, This is getting toooo complicated! I have not tied the Robert Jones that performed the marriage of John Hale and Susannah Wade to my line yet. I do have a Robert Jones who was married to Marie VanMeter daughter of John VanMeter and Sarah Bodine. This Robert was the father of the revolutionary war Thomas Jones that my sisters uesd to join the DAR. Don't know if they are one and the same Robert. Now getting to the Turners: I am decended from the same Shadrack and Ann Hill Turner as you, through their son William who married Jane Hunter. My line goes on down through their son Josiah Hunter Turner who married Drucilla P. Philpot on 11 Mar 1810. Their son Meshack then married Sarah Ann DeShazo 7 Sep 1842. Their son George King Turner was my great grandfather. Sarah Ann DeShazo's father was George King DeShazo. George's dad was William of revolutionary war fame mentined in the earlier e-mail. William's wife Jane King's father was George King also in the war. George King married Mary Niblet. Jane Hunter's parents were William Hunter and Charity Loftis. As you know Ben Franklin was the US's first postmaster-- well, he had a partner in Virginia who was named William Hunter. I would love to prove these two William Hunters one and the same. I have been to William Turner, Josiah H. Turner, Meshack Turner and George K.Turner's graves. Do you know where Shadrack's grave is? I also have a picture of Shadrick's house in Henry, Virginia. It has been restored by another cousin (Harry Lee King Jr.-4th once removed to me) and is on the National Register. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > Cuzn Bud, > > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who > married > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought it > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother or > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John > was > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could have > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I > have > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where she > got the information. > > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according to > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son William > who married Jane HUNTER... > > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > See all the books we publish at: > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. abt > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > >> Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. >> The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah >> Wade >> in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? >> I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two of >> his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have >> John's >> father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. >> >> My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could have >> used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where >> William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to >> Valley >> Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, was >> in >> many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at Stony >> Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and went >> on >> to marry Jane King. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. 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Cuzn Carolyn, This is getting toooo complicated! I have not tied the Robert Jones that performed the marriage of John Hale and Susannah Wade to my line yet. I do have a Robert Jones who was married to Marie VanMeter daughter of John VanMeter and Sarah Bodine. This Robert was the father of the revolutionary war Thomas Jones that my sisters uesd to join the DAR. Don't know if they are one and the same Robert. Now getting to the Turners: I am decended from the same Shadrack and Ann Hill Turner as you, through their son William who married Jane Hunter. My line goes on down through their son Josiah Hunter Turner who married Drucilla P. Philpot on 11 Mar 1810. Their son Meshack then married Sarah Ann DeShazo 7 Sep 1842. Their son George King Turner was my great grandfather. Sarah Ann DeShazo's father was George King DeShazo. George's dad was William of revolutionary war fame mentined in the earlier e-mail. William's wife Jane King's father was George King also in the war. George King married Mary Niblet. Jane Hunter's parents were William Hunter and Charity Loftis. As you know Ben Franklin was the US's first postmaster-- well, he had a partner in Virginia who was named William Hunter. I would love to prove these two William Hunters one and the same. I have been to William Turner, Josiah H. Turner, Meshack Turner and George K.Turner's graves. Do you know where Shadrack's grave is? I also have a picture of Shadrick's house in Henry, Virginia. It has been restored by another cousin (Harry Lee King Jr.-4th once removed to me) and is on the National Register. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > Cuzn Bud, > > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who > married > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought it > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother or > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John > was > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could have > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I > have > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where she > got the information. > > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according to > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son William > who married Jane HUNTER... > > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > See all the books we publish at: > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. abt > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > >> Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. >> The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah >> Wade >> in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? >> I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two of >> his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have >> John's >> father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. >> >> My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could have >> used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where >> William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to >> Valley >> Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, was >> in >> many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at Stony >> Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and went >> on >> to marry Jane King. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Pam, I checked (or re-checked, at my age, one never knows) on Theodric Thomas Gibson and could find nothing. The name sounds so familiar to me, but so does mine sometimes. He could be in Tazewell County in later years. Lots of Gibson's in Tazewell Co. The 1850 Tazewell Co. census might give you a clue. Jack B. Akers **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~varockbr/RevWarPension.html New Additions at Rockbridge County Alexander Kelso W9493 John Harris S37999 John Hunter R5404 John Green S37960 James and Martha Clarkson East W5070 George Vineyard S7794 Philip and Margaret Fix W7264 Thomas and Mary Hill Vines W2028 William and Hannah Snead Smith W2629 George Vineyard: S7794 also lived in Montgomery County VA Philip Fix: W7264 also lived in both Augusta and Loudoun Counties Thomas Vines: W2028 also lived in Augusta County William Smith: W2629 was born and lived in Augusta County

Gerald, The Susannah WADE who married John HALE in Franklin CoVA, in Mar 1789 was the daughter of John Utley WADE and Alice "Alley" WOODRUM/WIDROM m. Goochland CoVA 21 Oct 1763. To my knowledge the families are not related, but then "my knowledge" doesn't cover everything. Sorry. Carolyn HALE BRUCE, DAR, IBSSG, VBGS Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "GERALD PREAS" <gpreas@swbell.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: [VAFRANKL] WADE FAMILY > Was this Susannah Wade kin of Daniel Tyler family? > Daniel Tyler named one of his children Elizabeth Wade > Tyler and another Susannah. > > Gerald Preas > --- Carolyn Bruce <cdhbruce@cox.net> wrote: > >> Cuzn Bud, >> >> I descend from John and Susannah, also through their >> son William who married >> Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was >> born, but it's thought it >> was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility >> that he was a brother or >> cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes >> PRICE, and if John was >> born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army >> later, he could have >> participated in the Revolution. I have John's death >> date as 1833, but I have >> no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and >> I don't know where she >> got the information. >> >> By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert >> JONES, according to >> Wingfield. A relative of yours? >> >> What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann >> (HILL?) and son William >> who married Jane HUNTER... >> >> I also descend from KINGs... but before the >> Revolution by a generation. >> >> Carolyn HALE BRUCE, >> DAR, IBSSG, VBGS >> >> Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots >> Rebel King, The Har'ships and >> Rebel King, Bannok Burn >> >> See all the books we publish at: >> www.bruceandbruceinc.com >> (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> >> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was >> Simpson RICHARDS,b. abt >> 1804, Floyd or Franklin >> >> >> > Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. >> > The Hale of most likely age would have been John >> who married Sussannah >> > Wade >> > in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a >> bit too young? >> > I do not have his birth or death dates. I have >> additional info on two of >> > his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my >> ancestors. I have John's >> > father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no >> other info. >> > >> > My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I >> believe they could have >> > used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I >> have found info where >> > William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining >> up and marching to >> > Valley >> > Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette >> under Washington, was >> > in >> > many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with >> General Wayne at Stony >> > Point when it was captured. He was honorably >> discharged in 1780 and went >> > on >> > to marry Jane King. >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a >> "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the >> surname you seek in the subject and tell us >> something about your Brick Wall person. >> To contact Listowner: >> Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Search this list's archived messages! >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I descend from Shadrack Turner and Ann Hill and also King's. King's are in two different surname lines. Does anyone know if the Jones mentioned is related to Charles Jones who married Mary "Polly" King abt. 1790? They were in Henry Co. VA. She was a daughter of Rev. John King. I have been unable to find names of parents of Charles Jones. His daughter, Betsy, married Sylvester Webb of Henry Co. in 1816. Thanks for any information. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Bruce To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? Cuzn Bud, I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who married Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought it was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother or cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John was born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could have participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I have no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where she got the information. By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according to Wingfield. A relative of yours? What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son William who married Jane HUNTER... I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. Carolyn HALE BRUCE, DAR, IBSSG, VBGS Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. abt 1804, Floyd or Franklin > Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah > Wade > in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? > I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two of > his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have John's > father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. > > My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could have > used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where > William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to > Valley > Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, was > in > many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at Stony > Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and went > on > to marry Jane King. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What about Thomas Hale who did the 1890 census for Franklin county ? I thought he was listed a soldier when I read info on the census . Nancy **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Cuzn Bud, I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who married Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's thought it was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a brother or cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if John was born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could have participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but I have no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't know where she got the information. By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according to Wingfield. A relative of yours? What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son William who married Jane HUNTER... I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a generation. Carolyn HALE BRUCE, DAR, IBSSG, VBGS Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS,b. abt 1804, Floyd or Franklin > Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah > Wade > in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? > I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two of > his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have John's > father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. > > My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could have > used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where > William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to > Valley > Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, was > in > many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at Stony > Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and went > on > to marry Jane King.

Was this Susannah Wade kin of Daniel Tyler family? Daniel Tyler named one of his children Elizabeth Wade Tyler and another Susannah. Gerald Preas --- Carolyn Bruce <cdhbruce@cox.net> wrote: > Cuzn Bud, > > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their > son William who married > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was > born, but it's thought it > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility > that he was a brother or > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes > PRICE, and if John was > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army > later, he could have > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death > date as 1833, but I have > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and > I don't know where she > got the information. > > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert > JONES, according to > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann > (HILL?) and son William > who married Jane HUNTER... > > I also descend from KINGs... but before the > Revolution by a generation. > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > See all the books we publish at: > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was > Simpson RICHARDS,b. abt > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > > > Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > > The Hale of most likely age would have been John > who married Sussannah > > Wade > > in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a > bit too young? > > I do not have his birth or death dates. I have > additional info on two of > > his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my > ancestors. I have John's > > father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no > other info. > > > > My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I > believe they could have > > used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I > have found info where > > William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining > up and marching to > > Valley > > Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette > under Washington, was > > in > > many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with > General Wayne at Stony > > Point when it was captured. He was honorably > discharged in 1780 and went > > on > > to marry Jane King. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a > "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the > surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

Which John Bowman would this be? Is there anything printed on Levi Abraham Bowman, Brethren minister? He was my great grandfather. I know that he preached in Martinsville at Jones Chapel at the end of his life. He lived to be 101. He died when I was 25 years old. Gail Bowman Longton -------------- Original message from <cdossok@cox.net>: -------------- > To Andy Doss, > Would there be baptism records for this church or any other Brethren > churches specifically 'Dunkard' with records going back to mid 1860's? What is > your Doss line? Email soon. It's always nice to find a new Doss. > > Carl in OKC > > > > ---- "Doss wrote: > > In the 1840's, there was a Brethren (Church of the Brethren is the modern > Dunkard church) preacher named John Bowman who served many different churches. > You have to keep in mind preachers weren't usually stationed at one church in > those days. This John served some at what is now called the Germantown Brick > Church of the Brethren (close to Bonbrook). It is probably a misstep to say he > served in the Bonbrook area - he in fact served all over the place in Southern > Franklin County. > > > > Other facts - he could speak both German and English fluently. > > > > Source: The Brethren in Virginia, Roger E. Sappington 1973 > > > > Andy Doss > > (Former member of the Church of the Brethren, for 32 years) > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: vafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of S Rigney > > Sent: Tue 4/15/2008 11:00 PM > > To: VAFRANKL@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [VAFRANKL] John Bowman, Dunkard Clergyman > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I was wondering if anyone would have any information about a Dunkard Preacher > names John Bowman, ca. 1825-1860 in Bonbrook area of Franklin County. Curious > if anyone knows the church that he pastored, etc. > > Thanks so much for any help that you can offer. > > Sheila Rigney Harris > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. > Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something > about your Brick Wall person. > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Search this list's archived messages! > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. > Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something > about your Brick Wall person. > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Search this list's archived messages! > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. > Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something > about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married Sussannah Wade in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional info on two of his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have John's father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could have used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info where William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching to Valley Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, was in many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General Wayne at Stony Point when it was captured. He was honorably discharged in 1780 and went on to marry Jane King. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson RICHARDS, b. abt 1804,Floyd or Franklin > Hi, Bud. No, my initial qualifying ancestor was on my mother's side... > Jennings THOMPSON, b. in Amelia CoVA in 1762, drafted in early 1781 and > marched to Richmond and Williamsburg and several other places before being > made an Orderly Sergeant and sent off to obtain beef for the army > stationed > around Yorktown. By the time he returned the British had surrendered, so > he > was marched back to Amelia and discharged. Among those he served under was > Gen Lafayette, but I don't think he was ever in battle. I have about a > half-dozen others that I can use as "supplementals" when I get around to > it. > Littleberry VEST's father, John VEST, is one of those. > > Which HALE are you looking to prove was in the Rev. War? If you've been > looking? Not being able to find a particular fellow in the DAR's Patriot > Index does not mean that he didn't serve in the war, it just means that no > one has entered the DAR by qualifying on his service. There are many > thousands of people who would qualify a descendant for membership, if > their > service in the military or civilian government, or supplying necessary > things to the government, or even taking the Oath of Allegiance, can be > proved. By the way, the Sons of the Revolution organization doesn't accept > a > man for membership just because the DAR accepts his ancestor, and vice > versa. > > Which of your HALEs would have been of the right age (16-60... or > thereabouts) at the time of the Revolution? > > Let me know and I'll try to help. > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > See all the books we publish at: > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Simpson RICHARDS, b. abt 1804, Floyd or Franklin > > >> Carolyn, I see you are a member of the DAR, Did you qualify through the >> Hale line? I have not been able to find a Hale in my line who served in >> the >> revolution. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Bud. No, my initial qualifying ancestor was on my mother's side... Jennings THOMPSON, b. in Amelia CoVA in 1762, drafted in early 1781 and marched to Richmond and Williamsburg and several other places before being made an Orderly Sergeant and sent off to obtain beef for the army stationed around Yorktown. By the time he returned the British had surrendered, so he was marched back to Amelia and discharged. Among those he served under was Gen Lafayette, but I don't think he was ever in battle. I have about a half-dozen others that I can use as "supplementals" when I get around to it. Littleberry VEST's father, John VEST, is one of those. Which HALE are you looking to prove was in the Rev. War? If you've been looking? Not being able to find a particular fellow in the DAR's Patriot Index does not mean that he didn't serve in the war, it just means that no one has entered the DAR by qualifying on his service. There are many thousands of people who would qualify a descendant for membership, if their service in the military or civilian government, or supplying necessary things to the government, or even taking the Oath of Allegiance, can be proved. By the way, the Sons of the Revolution organization doesn't accept a man for membership just because the DAR accepts his ancestor, and vice versa. Which of your HALEs would have been of the right age (16-60... or thereabouts) at the time of the Revolution? Let me know and I'll try to help. Carolyn HALE BRUCE, DAR, IBSSG, VBGS Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Simpson RICHARDS, b. abt 1804, Floyd or Franklin > Carolyn, I see you are a member of the DAR, Did you qualify through the > Hale line? I have not been able to find a Hale in my line who served in > the > revolution.

Carolyn, I see you are a member of the DAR, Did you qualify through the Hale line? I have not been able to find a Hale in my line who served in the revolution. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> To: <VAFLOYD@rootsweb.com>; <VAFRANKL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: [VAFRANKL] Simpson RICHARDS, b. abt 1804, Floyd or Franklin > Simpson RICHARDS was my 2great-grandfather, though he was undoubtedly > beamed down from a UFO. Born about 1804, probably in Franklin CoVA, he > married there on 01 Nov 1832, Nancy VEST, dau of Littleberry and his first > wife, "Polly" (Mary?) MOORE. Any information or a suggested search > direction on him would be much appreciated. > > Simpson and Nancy had children: Sarah "Sallie", (abt. 1833); Mary Jane > (abt. 1834); Rachel Anglin (my great-grandmother, born 09 Oct 1836); > Anderson "Buck" (abt. 1838); Samuel R. (05 Mar 1840); Alice Ann "Ailey" > (27 Oct 1843); Martha (abt 1844); Catherine (abt. 1846); William J. (abt. > 1846); Fleming (abt. 1852). > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > See all the books we publish at: > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >