I have a John Bowman (1821-1903) born and died in Franklin County, Va. and married to Sarah Flora. Will be happy to share what I have on these Bowmans. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <glongton@bellsouth.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] John Bowman, Dunkard Clergyman > Which John Bowman would this be? Is there anything printed on Levi Abraham > Bowman, Brethren minister? He was my great grandfather. I know that he > preached in Martinsville at Jones Chapel at the end of his life. He lived > to be 101. He died when I was 25 years old. > Gail Bowman Longton > -------------- Original message from <cdossok@cox.net>: -------------- > > >> To Andy Doss, >> Would there be baptism records for this church or any other Brethren >> churches specifically 'Dunkard' with records going back to mid 1860's? >> What is >> your Doss line? Email soon. It's always nice to find a new Doss. >> >> Carl in OKC >> >> >> >> ---- "Doss wrote: >> > In the 1840's, there was a Brethren (Church of the Brethren is the >> > modern >> Dunkard church) preacher named John Bowman who served many different >> churches. >> You have to keep in mind preachers weren't usually stationed at one >> church in >> those days. This John served some at what is now called the Germantown >> Brick >> Church of the Brethren (close to Bonbrook). It is probably a misstep to >> say he >> served in the Bonbrook area - he in fact served all over the place in >> Southern >> Franklin County. >> > >> > Other facts - he could speak both German and English fluently. >> > >> > Source: The Brethren in Virginia, Roger E. Sappington 1973 >> > >> > Andy Doss >> > (Former member of the Church of the Brethren, for 32 years) >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: vafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of S Rigney >> > Sent: Tue 4/15/2008 11:00 PM >> > To: VAFRANKL@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [VAFRANKL] John Bowman, Dunkard Clergyman >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi Everyone, >> > I was wondering if anyone would have any information about a Dunkard >> > Preacher >> names John Bowman, ca. 1825-1860 in Bonbrook area of Franklin County. >> Curious >> if anyone knows the church that he pastored, etc. >> > Thanks so much for any help that you can offer. >> > Sheila Rigney Harris >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------- >> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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The only Edward Jones I have was born 16 Apr 1814 in Franklin Co., the son of William Jones (1776-1848) and Elizabeth Hill (1789-1861) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Hodges" <vhodges131@verizon.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Keeping up with the Joneses > Does anyone hae any information on Edward (Ned) Jones? > > Edward Jones bond to marry Betsey Hodges, dau. Robert, Jul. 25, 1805, Sur. > Wilson Mattox. Md. by John Ashworth. Wingfield, The Marriage Bonds of > Franklin County, Virginia 1786-1858, 130. > > Robert Hodges named daughter Elizabeth Jones in his will dated Aug. 15, > 1823, probated Nov. 5, 1832. Franklin Co. (Va.) Will Book 3/517. > > These are possibly the same family: > 1850 Census, Franklin Co., Va., p. 132b. Oct. 13, 1850, 1077/1073 > > > > Elizabeth Jones wf50 farmer 200 > > Sarah A. wf18 > > Rufina wf15 > > > > Possibly Franklin Co., Va. 1860 Census (NE) 359/355: > > > > Elizabeth Jones 71 > > Sarah 31 > > Rufina 28 > > > > 358/354 > > Jesse Jones 33 > > Sarah E. 22 > > Rosabel E. 5 mo. > > Thomas T. 39 > > > > Jesse Jones bond to marry Sarah E. Helm, Nov. 18, 1858. Wingfield, > Marriage > Bonds 131. > > > > But when daughter Dolly married Robert Mitchell Hodges Dec. 3, 1860, her > name was given as Dolly Hodges, 35, daughter of Ned Jones and Betsy > Hodges. > > > > It is likely Edward Jones is the sone Edward mentioned in this sketch. > Esther (Hessie) Stewart was a grandaughter of Robert Hodges. > > > > (From Page 549 of "History of Morgan County, Illinois, 1878) > > JONES, ROBERT A., representative farmer of Morgan County, was born in > Morgan > County, Tenn., in 1818; his father, Waitman Jones was born in Franklin > County, Virginia, in 1797; tracing this family further, Robert A., the > grandfather, was born in England, in 1748, of a wealthy and distinguished > family; he acquired a liberal education, and became one among the noted > scholars of England; he then married an English lady, who died in England, > and whose name is unknown; by this marriage two children: Edward and > Phoebe; > to better his fortunes he crossed the Atlantic, years before steamboats > were > seen on the broad waters; settling in Franklin County, Virginia, he there > married Miss Susan Richards, by whom he had eight children, six of whom > grew > to maturity; names: Edward, Phoebe, Reuben, Elizabeth, Waitman, and Susan; > Robert A. Jones died in Virginia, after a long and busy life; Waitman, the > father of the subject of this notice, grew up in Virginia and Tennessee, > where he married Miss Esther Stewart; by this marriage twelve children: > Robert, Mary, Brice, Susannah, Reuben, Edward, Elah, Phoebe, Elizabeth, > Esther Jane, Hannah A., and Winny C.; Mr. Jones settled some five miles > from > Waverly, in Morgan County, in 1828; he had on arrival but $9.50 in money, > and a pony; his family small, but each strove and worked for a better > condition of affairs; in Morgan county the old folks passed the remainder > of > their lives, where they were living witnesses of the stirring scenes of > western life. Robert, who heads this sketch, grew up on the homestead, > and > when old enough attended the subscription schools; his present liberal > education was derived by his own indomitable will, long after his > schooling > ended; Mr. Jones married, in Macoupin County, Miss Letitia Ann England; by > this marriage fourteen children; Catherine M., Elah, Minerva, Martha Ann, > John, Lucinda, Elizabeth, Esther J., Susannah, Mary m., Waitman A., Jas. > P., > Wm. D., and Samuel E., ten of whom are living; Mr. Jones, like many men of > enterprise, commenced life with little save a rugged will; his first tax > receipt as for 37 cents, a vast difference compared to his present > prosperous condition, owning 600 acres of valuable land, and Waverly > property, and takes a front rank as a farmer and citizen of this county. I > don't find anything on Edward from 1805 until he is mentioned in the > marriage record in 1860.There is a lot more on these families from the > Chestnut Creek area (Hodges, Stewart, Richards, Jones, England) who > intermarried and many of whom moved first to Tennessee and then to > Illinois:http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~makaylor/gen-stew.htmlBob > Hodges > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have William Turner Jr.'s second marriage to Exony Turner (1771-1820 or 30 in Wayne Co.,Ky) in 1811. Exony was his first wife's sister and family history has it she raised her sister's children. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gen42" <gen42@comcast.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > William Hunter, born abt. 1733, Louisa Co. Va., son of Andrew Hunter and > Jane (? Pleasants). > > William and Charity Loftus Hunter had children named Jane, (wife of Wm. > Turner) born 1758, Louisa Co., died 1851 Franklin Co. Va. > John Hunter, born abt. 1760; George Hunter, and William Hunter JR, born > 1765. Born in Louisa Co., but may have died Franklin Co. I only know > about Wm. Hunter Sr. and Charity. > > Jane Hunter Turner was a sister of William Hunter Jr. > > Shadrack Turner had a daughter, Mary. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bud Jones > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:09 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > I think we have two or more William Hunters! > > Shadrack Turner had a daughter Mary (could be Mary Jane) ( b. 1755 or > 65 - > d. abt 1809 in Wayne Co. Ky.) that married a William Hunter Jr. by 1792. > Mary had a brother William Turner (1753-1845) that married Jane Hunter > (1758-1851) in Pittslyvania Co. Va. 17 Apr 1773. > > Could William Hunter Jr. be Jane Hunter's brother, both children of > William > Hunter and Charity Loftis? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doss, Andy" <ADoss@stanleyfurniture.com> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > > Actually - the "Will" could be legitimate. > > It is dated 1806, Franklin County - but no probate date is given - > could > > have been years till he died. > > > > I also submit that William Hunter did NOT die in Louisa County. He > moved > > to Franklin County and died there (whether the Will I have is real or > not, > > it could be in Library of VA files). > > > > I can prove that William Hunter was in Franklin County (and likely died > > there): > > > > 1) Franklin County Deeds, Book 5, p.499, 11 Apr 1808.William Hunter of > > Franklin County to Jane Turner. Wit: John Turner; Josiah Turner; Joseph > > Pollard turner. > > > > 2) Franklin County Deeds, Book 7, p.36, 12 Nov 1813. William Hunter of > > Franklin County to "my beloved daughter" Jane Turner; 62 acres on Town > > Creek. > > > > So this is evidence enough to show that William died die in Franklin - > > however there is no record of his death (there is also no record of his > > death in Louisa County). The above wills are probably an indication he > was > > preparing his estate as he got elderly. > > > > Andy Doss, President > > Col. George Waller Chapter, S.A.R. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: vafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of gen42 > > Sent: Sat 4/26/2008 3:28 PM > > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > > > > > > Dates don't work and William Hunter, father of Jane, lived and died in > > Louisa Co. Va. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bud Jones > > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > > > > I believe Franklin Co.wasn't establisher until 1786. If the will > > perdates > > you may want to look in the predecessor counties. > > > > The story I spoke of about William Hunter being associated with Ben > > Franklin > > came from page 96 of "Franklin- The Essential Founding Father" by > James > > Strodes, ISBN 0-89526-163-4. > > It indicates that about 1861 William Hunter of Williamsburg was Ben's > > fellow > > deputy postmaster general. It says an aling William would ultamatly > > leave > > most of his business to Ben. > > Is this the William Hunter (b.1738) that was married to Charity Loftus > > and > > the father of Jane (b. 1758) who married William Turner in 1773? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Doss, Andy" <ADoss@stanleyfurniture.com> > > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > > > > > Here is an even better question for my fellow William Hunter > > > descendants: > > > > > > I have seen transcriptions of a William Hunter will on the internet. > > Has > > > anyone seen this, and has anyone obtained a source for it? > > > I have not seen it in the Will Book or Court records at Franklin > County > > > in the many times I have been there. However - I could have > overlooked > > > it. > > > > > > Andy Doss > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" > Roll > > > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell > us > > > something about your Brick Wall person. > > > To contact Listowner: > > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Search this list's archived messages! > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > > Call. 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William Hunter, born abt. 1733, Louisa Co. Va., son of Andrew Hunter and Jane (? Pleasants). William and Charity Loftus Hunter had children named Jane, (wife of Wm. Turner) born 1758, Louisa Co., died 1851 Franklin Co. Va. John Hunter, born abt. 1760; George Hunter, and William Hunter JR, born 1765. Born in Louisa Co., but may have died Franklin Co. I only know about Wm. Hunter Sr. and Charity. Jane Hunter Turner was a sister of William Hunter Jr. Shadrack Turner had a daughter, Mary. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Jones To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will I think we have two or more William Hunters! Shadrack Turner had a daughter Mary (could be Mary Jane) ( b. 1755 or 65 - d. abt 1809 in Wayne Co. Ky.) that married a William Hunter Jr. by 1792. Mary had a brother William Turner (1753-1845) that married Jane Hunter (1758-1851) in Pittslyvania Co. Va. 17 Apr 1773. Could William Hunter Jr. be Jane Hunter's brother, both children of William Hunter and Charity Loftis? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doss, Andy" <ADoss@stanleyfurniture.com> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > Actually - the "Will" could be legitimate. > It is dated 1806, Franklin County - but no probate date is given - could > have been years till he died. > > I also submit that William Hunter did NOT die in Louisa County. He moved > to Franklin County and died there (whether the Will I have is real or not, > it could be in Library of VA files). > > I can prove that William Hunter was in Franklin County (and likely died > there): > > 1) Franklin County Deeds, Book 5, p.499, 11 Apr 1808.William Hunter of > Franklin County to Jane Turner. Wit: John Turner; Josiah Turner; Joseph > Pollard turner. > > 2) Franklin County Deeds, Book 7, p.36, 12 Nov 1813. William Hunter of > Franklin County to "my beloved daughter" Jane Turner; 62 acres on Town > Creek. > > So this is evidence enough to show that William died die in Franklin - > however there is no record of his death (there is also no record of his > death in Louisa County). The above wills are probably an indication he was > preparing his estate as he got elderly. > > Andy Doss, President > Col. George Waller Chapter, S.A.R. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: vafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of gen42 > Sent: Sat 4/26/2008 3:28 PM > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > > Dates don't work and William Hunter, father of Jane, lived and died in > Louisa Co. Va. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bud Jones > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:09 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > I believe Franklin Co.wasn't establisher until 1786. If the will > perdates > you may want to look in the predecessor counties. > > The story I spoke of about William Hunter being associated with Ben > Franklin > came from page 96 of "Franklin- The Essential Founding Father" by James > Strodes, ISBN 0-89526-163-4. > It indicates that about 1861 William Hunter of Williamsburg was Ben's > fellow > deputy postmaster general. It says an aling William would ultamatly > leave > most of his business to Ben. > Is this the William Hunter (b.1738) that was married to Charity Loftus > and > the father of Jane (b. 1758) who married William Turner in 1773? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doss, Andy" <ADoss@stanleyfurniture.com> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > > Here is an even better question for my fellow William Hunter > > descendants: > > > > I have seen transcriptions of a William Hunter will on the internet. > Has > > anyone seen this, and has anyone obtained a source for it? > > I have not seen it in the Will Book or Court records at Franklin County > > in the many times I have been there. However - I could have overlooked > > it. > > > > Andy Doss > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > > something about your Brick Wall person. > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Search this list's archived messages! > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. 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I think we have two or more William Hunters! Shadrack Turner had a daughter Mary (could be Mary Jane) ( b. 1755 or 65 - d. abt 1809 in Wayne Co. Ky.) that married a William Hunter Jr. by 1792. Mary had a brother William Turner (1753-1845) that married Jane Hunter (1758-1851) in Pittslyvania Co. Va. 17 Apr 1773. Could William Hunter Jr. be Jane Hunter's brother, both children of William Hunter and Charity Loftis? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doss, Andy" <ADoss@stanleyfurniture.com> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > Actually - the "Will" could be legitimate. > It is dated 1806, Franklin County - but no probate date is given - could > have been years till he died. > > I also submit that William Hunter did NOT die in Louisa County. He moved > to Franklin County and died there (whether the Will I have is real or not, > it could be in Library of VA files). > > I can prove that William Hunter was in Franklin County (and likely died > there): > > 1) Franklin County Deeds, Book 5, p.499, 11 Apr 1808.William Hunter of > Franklin County to Jane Turner. Wit: John Turner; Josiah Turner; Joseph > Pollard turner. > > 2) Franklin County Deeds, Book 7, p.36, 12 Nov 1813. William Hunter of > Franklin County to "my beloved daughter" Jane Turner; 62 acres on Town > Creek. > > So this is evidence enough to show that William died die in Franklin - > however there is no record of his death (there is also no record of his > death in Louisa County). The above wills are probably an indication he was > preparing his estate as he got elderly. > > Andy Doss, President > Col. George Waller Chapter, S.A.R. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: vafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of gen42 > Sent: Sat 4/26/2008 3:28 PM > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > > Dates don't work and William Hunter, father of Jane, lived and died in > Louisa Co. Va. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bud Jones > To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:09 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > I believe Franklin Co.wasn't establisher until 1786. If the will > perdates > you may want to look in the predecessor counties. > > The story I spoke of about William Hunter being associated with Ben > Franklin > came from page 96 of "Franklin- The Essential Founding Father" by James > Strodes, ISBN 0-89526-163-4. > It indicates that about 1861 William Hunter of Williamsburg was Ben's > fellow > deputy postmaster general. It says an aling William would ultamatly > leave > most of his business to Ben. > Is this the William Hunter (b.1738) that was married to Charity Loftus > and > the father of Jane (b. 1758) who married William Turner in 1773? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doss, Andy" <ADoss@stanleyfurniture.com> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > > > > Here is an even better question for my fellow William Hunter > > descendants: > > > > I have seen transcriptions of a William Hunter will on the internet. > Has > > anyone seen this, and has anyone obtained a source for it? > > I have not seen it in the Will Book or Court records at Franklin County > > in the many times I have been there. However - I could have overlooked > > it. > > > > Andy Doss > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > > Call. 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Hi, Bud, The Sarah Catherine "Sally" SIGMON (I have her as b. 05 Dec 1818) who m. Lewis HALE (b. 26 Dec 1818), is my great-grandmother. She was the daughter of Peter SIGMON, Sr. and (I believe) his first wife (some say her name was Mary Unknown, some say Mary HALE, some say she was an Indian woman, name unknown). We have thus far been unable to find out from where Peter SIGMON and his first wife came. The earliest record I'm aware of is from when he signed the 1785 legislative petition requesting the formation of Franklin CoVA. Peter SIGMON obtained a marriage bond in Franklin CoVA 05 April 1819 (Wingfield's **Marriage Bonds**) to wed Catherine WILLIS, a much younger widow with seven young children by her first husband, Bennett WILLIS. Bennett died while in military service at Radford, VA, 18 Jan 1814; he and Catherine NOSSEMAN married 13 Nov 1800, Monroe County, Virginia (now West Virginia) and had children: John Bennett WILLIS m. Mary Frances WINFREY; Mary WILLIS m. Peter SIGMON, Jr.; Elizabeth WILLIS m. Joseph SIGMON; David WILLIS m. Susannah WINFREY; Jonathan WILLIS m. Arabella PFLIEGER; Rachel WILLIS m. Samuel PALMER; Hugh WILLIS m. Susan ROBERTS (of North Carolina). (See Juanita SIGMON HALSTEAD's **THE SIGMONS OF VIRGINIA**, Scott Depot, West Virginia, 1986.) The elder Peter SIGMON died 22 Aug 1837. It is not impossible that he fathered the Sarah SIGMON who was born abt 1834, but unlikely. He and Catherine had been married since 1819 without (to my knowledge) having other children. However, in Nov 1829, the younger Peter SIGMON married Mary WILLIS, one of the above seven children of Bennett and Catherine WILLIS. According to the Franklin CoVA US Census of 1860, Peter SIGMON, Jr. and his wife, Mary, listed a daughter named Sarah, age 25, which would have made her the age of the Sarah SIGMON who m. Charles Henry JONES in 1863. Robert SIGMON (son of Peter SIGMON, Sr.) and his first wife, Elizabeth GIBSON (m. Dec. 1839 - Wingfield) had a daughter named Sarah "Sally" SIGMON, b. 27 July 1843. Robert N. SIGMON, son of Robert and Elizabeth, was b. 28 Jul 1861, d. 29 Jul 1952, m. (according to my record) Martha Eleanor VIA, about 1889, had a daughter b. August 1898 named Sarah B (Blanche?) SIGMON. She is one year old on the 1900 Franklin CoVA Census, p. 28 A, Blackwater District, taken June 9th, 1900. This is the way I think the "Sarah SIGMONs" go. Hope this helps. Carolyn HALE BRUCE, DAR, IBSSG, VBGS Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:52 PM Subject: [VAFRANKL] Sarah Sigmon > Carolyn, > > I have four Sarah Sigmons in my files: <snip>

Actually - the "Will" could be legitimate. It is dated 1806, Franklin County - but no probate date is given - could have been years till he died. I also submit that William Hunter did NOT die in Louisa County. He moved to Franklin County and died there (whether the Will I have is real or not, it could be in Library of VA files). I can prove that William Hunter was in Franklin County (and likely died there): 1) Franklin County Deeds, Book 5, p.499, 11 Apr 1808.William Hunter of Franklin County to Jane Turner. Wit: John Turner; Josiah Turner; Joseph Pollard turner. 2) Franklin County Deeds, Book 7, p.36, 12 Nov 1813. William Hunter of Franklin County to "my beloved daughter" Jane Turner; 62 acres on Town Creek. So this is evidence enough to show that William died die in Franklin - however there is no record of his death (there is also no record of his death in Louisa County). The above wills are probably an indication he was preparing his estate as he got elderly. Andy Doss, President Col. George Waller Chapter, S.A.R. ________________________________ From: vafrankl-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of gen42 Sent: Sat 4/26/2008 3:28 PM To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will Dates don't work and William Hunter, father of Jane, lived and died in Louisa Co. Va. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Jones To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will I believe Franklin Co.wasn't establisher until 1786. If the will perdates you may want to look in the predecessor counties. The story I spoke of about William Hunter being associated with Ben Franklin came from page 96 of "Franklin- The Essential Founding Father" by James Strodes, ISBN 0-89526-163-4. It indicates that about 1861 William Hunter of Williamsburg was Ben's fellow deputy postmaster general. It says an aling William would ultamatly leave most of his business to Ben. Is this the William Hunter (b.1738) that was married to Charity Loftus and the father of Jane (b. 1758) who married William Turner in 1773? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doss, Andy" <ADoss@stanleyfurniture.com> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > Here is an even better question for my fellow William Hunter > descendants: > > I have seen transcriptions of a William Hunter will on the internet. Has > anyone seen this, and has anyone obtained a source for it? > I have not seen it in the Will Book or Court records at Franklin County > in the many times I have been there. However - I could have overlooked > it. > > Andy Doss > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone hae any information on Edward (Ned) Jones? Edward Jones bond to marry Betsey Hodges, dau. Robert, Jul. 25, 1805, Sur. Wilson Mattox. Md. by John Ashworth. Wingfield, The Marriage Bonds of Franklin County, Virginia 1786-1858, 130. Robert Hodges named daughter Elizabeth Jones in his will dated Aug. 15, 1823, probated Nov. 5, 1832. Franklin Co. (Va.) Will Book 3/517. These are possibly the same family: 1850 Census, Franklin Co., Va., p. 132b. Oct. 13, 1850, 1077/1073 Elizabeth Jones wf50 farmer 200 Sarah A. wf18 Rufina wf15 Possibly Franklin Co., Va. 1860 Census (NE) 359/355: Elizabeth Jones 71 Sarah 31 Rufina 28 358/354 Jesse Jones 33 Sarah E. 22 Rosabel E. 5 mo. Thomas T. 39 Jesse Jones bond to marry Sarah E. Helm, Nov. 18, 1858. Wingfield, Marriage Bonds 131. But when daughter Dolly married Robert Mitchell Hodges Dec. 3, 1860, her name was given as Dolly Hodges, 35, daughter of Ned Jones and Betsy Hodges. It is likely Edward Jones is the sone Edward mentioned in this sketch. Esther (Hessie) Stewart was a grandaughter of Robert Hodges. (From Page 549 of "History of Morgan County, Illinois, 1878) JONES, ROBERT A., representative farmer of Morgan County, was born in Morgan County, Tenn., in 1818; his father, Waitman Jones was born in Franklin County, Virginia, in 1797; tracing this family further, Robert A., the grandfather, was born in England, in 1748, of a wealthy and distinguished family; he acquired a liberal education, and became one among the noted scholars of England; he then married an English lady, who died in England, and whose name is unknown; by this marriage two children: Edward and Phoebe; to better his fortunes he crossed the Atlantic, years before steamboats were seen on the broad waters; settling in Franklin County, Virginia, he there married Miss Susan Richards, by whom he had eight children, six of whom grew to maturity; names: Edward, Phoebe, Reuben, Elizabeth, Waitman, and Susan; Robert A. Jones died in Virginia, after a long and busy life; Waitman, the father of the subject of this notice, grew up in Virginia and Tennessee, where he married Miss Esther Stewart; by this marriage twelve children: Robert, Mary, Brice, Susannah, Reuben, Edward, Elah, Phoebe, Elizabeth, Esther Jane, Hannah A., and Winny C.; Mr. Jones settled some five miles from Waverly, in Morgan County, in 1828; he had on arrival but $9.50 in money, and a pony; his family small, but each strove and worked for a better condition of affairs; in Morgan county the old folks passed the remainder of their lives, where they were living witnesses of the stirring scenes of western life. Robert, who heads this sketch, grew up on the homestead, and when old enough attended the subscription schools; his present liberal education was derived by his own indomitable will, long after his schooling ended; Mr. Jones married, in Macoupin County, Miss Letitia Ann England; by this marriage fourteen children; Catherine M., Elah, Minerva, Martha Ann, John, Lucinda, Elizabeth, Esther J., Susannah, Mary m., Waitman A., Jas. P., Wm. D., and Samuel E., ten of whom are living; Mr. Jones, like many men of enterprise, commenced life with little save a rugged will; his first tax receipt as for 37 cents, a vast difference compared to his present prosperous condition, owning 600 acres of valuable land, and Waverly property, and takes a front rank as a farmer and citizen of this county. I don't find anything on Edward from 1805 until he is mentioned in the marriage record in 1860.There is a lot more on these families from the Chestnut Creek area (Hodges, Stewart, Richards, Jones, England) who intermarried and many of whom moved first to Tennessee and then to Illinois:http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~makaylor/gen-stew.htmlBob Hodges

Dates don't work and William Hunter, father of Jane, lived and died in Louisa Co. Va. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Jones To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will I believe Franklin Co.wasn't establisher until 1786. If the will perdates you may want to look in the predecessor counties. The story I spoke of about William Hunter being associated with Ben Franklin came from page 96 of "Franklin- The Essential Founding Father" by James Strodes, ISBN 0-89526-163-4. It indicates that about 1861 William Hunter of Williamsburg was Ben's fellow deputy postmaster general. It says an aling William would ultamatly leave most of his business to Ben. Is this the William Hunter (b.1738) that was married to Charity Loftus and the father of Jane (b. 1758) who married William Turner in 1773? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doss, Andy" <ADoss@stanleyfurniture.com> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > Here is an even better question for my fellow William Hunter > descendants: > > I have seen transcriptions of a William Hunter will on the internet. Has > anyone seen this, and has anyone obtained a source for it? > I have not seen it in the Will Book or Court records at Franklin County > in the many times I have been there. However - I could have overlooked > it. > > Andy Doss > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe Franklin Co.wasn't establisher until 1786. If the will perdates you may want to look in the predecessor counties. The story I spoke of about William Hunter being associated with Ben Franklin came from page 96 of "Franklin- The Essential Founding Father" by James Strodes, ISBN 0-89526-163-4. It indicates that about 1861 William Hunter of Williamsburg was Ben's fellow deputy postmaster general. It says an aling William would ultamatly leave most of his business to Ben. Is this the William Hunter (b.1738) that was married to Charity Loftus and the father of Jane (b. 1758) who married William Turner in 1773? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doss, Andy" <ADoss@stanleyfurniture.com> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] William Hunter will > Here is an even better question for my fellow William Hunter > descendants: > > I have seen transcriptions of a William Hunter will on the internet. Has > anyone seen this, and has anyone obtained a source for it? > I have not seen it in the Will Book or Court records at Franklin County > in the many times I have been there. However - I could have overlooked > it. > > Andy Doss > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carolyn, I have four Sarah Sigmons in my files: The Sarah (b.1834) you speak of married Isaac Madison Jones's son Charles Henry Jones. Their wedding of 17 Dec 1863 date came for Lala Willis's bible. I have her as the daughter of Peter Sigmon Sr. (b. 1803) and Mary ? (b.1813). I guess it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for Mary's last to be Willis. My second Sarah (b.1819) was married to Lewis Hale (1818-1885) in Franklin Co. on 20 Nov 1840. I have her parents as Peter Sigmon and Catherine Willis (no dates on either). My third Sarah (name and birth in 1843 is all info I have) was the daughter of Robert Sigmon (1816-1895) and Elizabeth Gibson (1820-1895). Robert and Elizabeth were married 6 Dec 1839 in Franklin Co. My final Sarah had a middle name of Blanch ( no other info) was the daughter of Robert N. Sigmon (1861-1952) and Mary Ellen Via (1868-1971). They were married in Franklin Co. 3 Oct 1889. I have Robert N. as the son of the aformentioned Robert and Elizabeth and brother of the third Sarah above. Could it be that 1816 Robert and 1819 Sarah were siblings? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > Bud, your Sarah SIGMON, b. 1834, m. Isaac Madison JONES... is she the > daughter of Peter SIGMON, Jr., and Mary WILLIS? I descend from Peter > SIGMON, > Sr., and his first wife, through their daughter Sarah SIGMON, b. 1818, d. > 1888, m. 20 Nov 1840 in Franklin CoVA, Lewis Peter HALE. They were my > great-grandparents. > > My KING connection is one Sarah KING who m. Thomas CHANCELLOR 14 Mar 1757 > in > Goochland CoVA. I descend from their daughter Judith Ann, who m. Castleton > WADE (brother to Suzanna WADE, wife of John HALE) 31 Jan 1787 in > Goochland. > Unfortunately I know nothing about Sarah KING's parents or siblings. Any > info on them would be greatly appreciated. > > William HUNTER... that would be cool... to prove he was FRANKLIN's > partner. > Good luck. > > I have not been to any of those gravesites, nor Shadrack's homeplace. I'd > love to have a copy of that photo, if possible. > > Your many-times cousin, > C. > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > > See all the books we publish at: > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Please be aware of the subject Line. I'm getting complaints. Thank's my friends. Rena

Thanks, Cousin Carolyn. It's just been one of those names that I think could reveal clues that I've thus far not been able to uncover. Kathe >Cousin Kathe, the specific Castleton we're referring to >(Castleton/Casselton/etc.) WADE, was born in Goochland CoVA. It may have >been a name from a place there, from another ancestor family friend that he >was named after, or from a town in "the old country", I have no idea. Like >you, I have wondered about that name and some other "unique" given names. >Sorry I can't help. > >C. > >Carolyn HALE BRUCE, >DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > >Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots >Rebel King, The Har'ships and >Rebel King, Bannok Burn > >See all the books we publish at: >www.bruceandbruceinc.com >(Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kathe Martin" <kmartin@librarytech.com> >To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:33 PM >Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > > > Carolyn: > > > > Do you have ANY idea where the Castleton name comes from? I encounter > > it every once and a while and have always wondered about it. Without > > any answer, though. > > > > Thanks. Kathe > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" >Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and >tell us something about your Brick Wall person. >To contact Listowner: >Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Search this list's archived messages! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cousin Kathe, the specific Castleton we're referring to (Castleton/Casselton/etc.) WADE, was born in Goochland CoVA. It may have been a name from a place there, from another ancestor family friend that he was named after, or from a town in "the old country", I have no idea. Like you, I have wondered about that name and some other "unique" given names. Sorry I can't help. C. Carolyn HALE BRUCE, DAR, IBSSG, VBGS Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathe Martin" <kmartin@librarytech.com> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > Carolyn: > > Do you have ANY idea where the Castleton name comes from? I encounter > it every once and a while and have always wondered about it. Without > any answer, though. > > Thanks. Kathe

>Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:56:15 EDT >From: ThuleVet62@aol.com >Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] First Burial Marker >To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <c34.2f3cf9aa.354215af@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Pam, I checked (or re-checked, at my age, one never >knows) on Theodric >Thomas Gibson and could find nothing. The name >sounds so familiar to me, but so >does mine sometimes. He could be in Tazewell County >in later years. > Lots of >Gibson's in Tazewell Co. The 1850 Tazewell Co. >census might give you > a clue. > Jack B. Akers Thank you, Jack for checking. I know he was born in Franklin Co., but in 1850 he is in Pittsylvania Co. with his wife, Mary Ann Owens and a daughter, Martha. After that, they moved to Grayson Co. There is another Theodric Gibson in, (I think) Floyd Co, but he is about 10 years younger. Pam Binion ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Carolyn: Do you have ANY idea where the Castleton name comes from? I encounter it every once and a while and have always wondered about it. Without any answer, though. Thanks. Kathe >Bud, your Sarah SIGMON, b. 1834, m. Isaac Madison JONES... is she the >daughter of Peter SIGMON, Jr., and Mary WILLIS? I descend from Peter SIGMON, >Sr., and his first wife, through their daughter Sarah SIGMON, b. 1818, d. >1888, m. 20 Nov 1840 in Franklin CoVA, Lewis Peter HALE. They were my >great-grandparents. > >My KING connection is one Sarah KING who m. Thomas CHANCELLOR 14 Mar 1757 in >Goochland CoVA. I descend from their daughter Judith Ann, who m. Castleton >WADE (brother to Suzanna WADE, wife of John HALE) 31 Jan 1787 in Goochland. >Unfortunately I know nothing about Sarah KING's parents or siblings. Any >info on them would be greatly appreciated. > >William HUNTER... that would be cool... to prove he was FRANKLIN's partner. >Good luck. > >I have not been to any of those gravesites, nor Shadrack's homeplace. I'd >love to have a copy of that photo, if possible. > >Your many-times cousin, >C. > >Carolyn HALE BRUCE, >DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > >Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots >Rebel King, The Har'ships and >Rebel King, Bannok Burn > >See all the books we publish at: >www.bruceandbruceinc.com >(Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >The SECOND Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" >Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and >tell us something about your Brick Wall person. >To contact Listowner: >Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Search this list's archived messages! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >VAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bud, your Sarah SIGMON, b. 1834, m. Isaac Madison JONES... is she the daughter of Peter SIGMON, Jr., and Mary WILLIS? I descend from Peter SIGMON, Sr., and his first wife, through their daughter Sarah SIGMON, b. 1818, d. 1888, m. 20 Nov 1840 in Franklin CoVA, Lewis Peter HALE. They were my great-grandparents. My KING connection is one Sarah KING who m. Thomas CHANCELLOR 14 Mar 1757 in Goochland CoVA. I descend from their daughter Judith Ann, who m. Castleton WADE (brother to Suzanna WADE, wife of John HALE) 31 Jan 1787 in Goochland. Unfortunately I know nothing about Sarah KING's parents or siblings. Any info on them would be greatly appreciated. William HUNTER... that would be cool... to prove he was FRANKLIN's partner. Good luck. I have not been to any of those gravesites, nor Shadrack's homeplace. I'd love to have a copy of that photo, if possible. Your many-times cousin, C. Carolyn HALE BRUCE, DAR, IBSSG, VBGS Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!)

Here is an even better question for my fellow William Hunter descendants: I have seen transcriptions of a William Hunter will on the internet. Has anyone seen this, and has anyone obtained a source for it? I have not seen it in the Will Book or Court records at Franklin County in the many times I have been there. However - I could have overlooked it. Andy Doss

Hi Bud: To tell you the truth, I don't know. I haven't seen him since then, so I don't know. He was pretty spry when I last saw him, which was probably around 1999. He was still telling us about training his dog to find groundhogs. And I haven't heard news to indicate he's not still with us, but I'm no longer living in the region. He told us something about the construction date being in the late 1780's/early 1790's. He had a particular reason for believing that it was Larkin who built it, but I don't remember it. If 1780 IS an accurate date, then it would probably have been Shadrach's home. His will mentioned something about the house being built at the time of his death, or at least the time of writing his will. Kathe >The info I remember from Harry Lee King and Andrew Gravely was that it was >started by Shadrack but not sure he lived long to live in it. It was taken >over by a son. The National Register of Historic Places plaque indicates >circa 1780. My info indicates Shadrack died in 1783. > >Is Harry Lee still alive? Last time I saw him was in 2000 but I haven't >seen an obit. He would be about 101 now. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kathe Martin" <kmartin@librarytech.com> >To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:17 AM >Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > > > > When I talked with Harry King about his house a few years back, he > > said that he thought it had been built by Shadrach's son Larkin. I'm > > curious about it being built by Shadrach. Do you have a construction date? > > > > Great to meet cousins! > > > > Kathe Young Martin > > > > > >>Do you know the parents or origin of Charity Loftus, wife of William > >>Hunter? > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Bud Jones > >> To: vafrankl@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:54 PM > >> Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > >> > >> > >> Cuzn Carolyn, > >> This is getting toooo complicated! I have not tied the Robert Jones > >> that > >> performed the marriage of John Hale and Susannah Wade to my line > >> yet. I do > >> have a Robert Jones who was married to Marie VanMeter daughter of John > >> VanMeter and Sarah Bodine. This Robert was the father of the > >> revolutionary > >> war Thomas Jones that my sisters uesd to join the DAR. Don't know if > >> they > >> are one and the same Robert. > >> > >> Now getting to the Turners: I am decended from the same Shadrack and > >> Ann > >> Hill Turner as you, through their son William who married Jane Hunter. > >> My > >> line goes on down through their son Josiah Hunter Turner who married > >> Drucilla P. Philpot on 11 Mar 1810. Their son Meshack then married > >> Sarah > >> Ann DeShazo 7 Sep 1842. Their son George King Turner was my great > >> grandfather. > >> > >> Sarah Ann DeShazo's father was George King DeShazo. George's dad was > >> William of revolutionary war fame mentined in the earlier > >> e-mail. William's > >> wife Jane King's father was George King also in the war. George King > >> married Mary Niblet. > >> > >> Jane Hunter's parents were William Hunter and Charity Loftis. As you > >> know > >> Ben Franklin was the US's first postmaster-- well, he had a partner in > >> Virginia who was named William Hunter. I would love to prove these two > >> William Hunters one and the same. > >> > >> I have been to William Turner, Josiah H. Turner, Meshack Turner and > >> George > >> K.Turner's graves. Do you know where Shadrack's grave is? I also have > >> a > >> picture of Shadrick's house in Henry, Virginia. It has been restored > >> by > >> another cousin (Harry Lee King Jr.-4th once removed to me) and is on > >> the > >> National Register. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Carolyn Bruce" <cdhbruce@cox.net> > >> To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:44 PM > >> Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? > >> > >> > >> > Cuzn Bud, > >> > > >> > I descend from John and Susannah, also through their son William who > >> > married > >> > Betsy WADE. I don't know when or where John was born, but it's > >> thought it > >> > was somewhere around 1765. There's a possibility that he was a > >> brother or > >> > cousin to Rev. War Vet Thomas HALE who married Agnes PRICE, and if > >> John > >> > was > >> > born a few years earlier, and/or went into the army later, he could > >> have > >> > participated in the Revolution. I have John's death date as 1833, but > >> I > >> > have > >> > no documentation. The date came from my cousin, and I don't > >> know where she > >> > got the information. > >> > > >> > By the way, John and Susannah were married by Robert JONES, according > >> to > >> > Wingfield. A relative of yours? > >> > > >> > What TURNER? I descend from Shadrack, married Ann (HILL?) and son > >> William > >> > who married Jane HUNTER... > >> > > >> > I also descend from KINGs... but before the Revolution by a > >> generation. > >> > > >> > Carolyn HALE BRUCE, > >> > DAR, IBSSG, VBGS > >> > > >> > Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > >> > Rebel King, The Har'ships and > >> > Rebel King, Bannok Burn > >> > > >> > See all the books we publish at: > >> > www.bruceandbruceinc.com > >> > (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Bud Jones" <Bud.C.Jones@cox.net> > >> > To: <vafrankl@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:35 AM > >> > Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Rev. War HALE patriot? was Simpson > >> RICHARDS,b. abt > >> > 1804, Floyd or Franklin > >> > > >> > > >> >> Carolyn, thanks for the info and offer of help. > >> >> The Hale of most likely age would have been John who married > >> Sussannah > >> >> Wade > >> >> in Franklin Co 17 Mar 1789. He may have been a bit too young? > >> >> I do not have his birth or death dates. I have additional > >> info on two of > >> >> his sons William and Thomas, both of whom are my ancestors. I have > >> >> John's > >> >> father as Thomas who married Jane Armstrong but no other info. > >> >> > >> >> My sisters are DAR members from Thomas Jones. I believe they could > >> have > >> >> used our Turner and DeShazo ancestors as well. I have found info > >> where > >> >> William DeShazo was a contentinal soldier, Joining up and marching > >> to > >> >> Valley > >> >> Forge in spring of 1777. He served with Lafayette under Washington, > >> was > >> >> in > >> >> many battles, the most noted were Monmoth and with General > >> Wayne at Stony > >> >> Point when it was captured. 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