Linda: In the book "Over the Mountain Men Their Early Court Records in Southwest Virginia" by Anne Lowry Worrell, 1934, reprint by GPC 1996, p. 17, there are listed 5 Potter marriages. The one for Moses you quote is: Potter, Moses, and Frances Kirby, dau. Dicey Bartee - July 14, 1789 Most of the entries appear to be bonds, certainly those with Sureties named were bonds. After a bond was filed the couple could have been married the same day or at a later date in a church or at home, etc., supplying us with the reason we often find so many discrepancies in marriage dates. Many old publications or manuscripts on families often cited the date of the bond as the marriage date. It's nice to have both for one's own family, but a lot of the time we have to settle for either the bond date or a minister's return after the actual marriage ceremony took place. In the entry above for Moses there is no surety listed. I can't guess why. If Frances K. was actually the daughter (yes, it was abbreviated as dau.) of Dicey Bartee, then I will venture a guess Frances' mother Dicey had remarried by July 14 '89. BILL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Starr81" <starr81@ix.netcom.com> To: <VAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 2:05 PM Subject: [VAFRANKL] Moses Potter / Frances Kerby marriage > Does anyone have access to the marriage records, or transcription > of the marriage records, for Franklin Co.? The marriage for Moses Potter > and Frances Kerby is found variously as 1789 and 1799 and a couple years > in between. Thanks in advance for this look-up if anyone can do it for > me. Linda Starr > > > ==== VAFRANKL Mailing List ==== > Messages from this mailing list are "warranted" to be virus free ... > BUT some virus might masquerade as a mailing list message ... > ALWAYS be careful with unexpected attachments to email messages. > >

Does anyone have access to the marriage records, or transcription of the marriage records, for Franklin Co.? The marriage for Moses Potter and Frances Kerby is found variously as 1789 and 1799 and a couple years in between. Thanks in advance for this look-up if anyone can do it for me. Linda Starr

Queries posted the past week to this VAGenWeb QueryPage mentioned the following surname(s): ARRINGTON, BOARD, CLACK, CLAIBORNE, COON, CRAFT, LEMON, PERDUE, SMITH, TONEY, WRIGHT For those of you wanting to read these new queries, they are located at URL: <a href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafrankl/fran-qry.htm"> http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafrankl/fran-qry.htm </a> Regards, Freddie S. Fspradlin@earthlink.net 3448 W. 170th St, Torrance, CA 90504-2402

"Sur." usually stood for Surety. The persons name following the Sur. was most likely the Surety for the marriage. Some states referred to it as Bondsman. Lowell RickieBlas@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Listers, > I found the abbreviation "Sur." before a name in a marriage record book from > 1807. It reads: Asenath Arthur m. David Sink Aug 22, 1807. Sur. John > Arthur. Does anyone know what the "Sur." means? > Thanks so much and have a great evening!!! > Rickie L. > > Mrs. Rickie Bennett Longfellow > Researching: Arts, Arthur, Banks, Bartlett, Belcher, Bennett, Blankenship, > Blevins, Boyd, Burrell, Clay, Cockrell, Crab, Dillon, Earl/Earles, Frogley, > Greathouse, Green, Hale, Isham, Jefferson, Longfellow, Mason, McLaughlin, > Miller, Mitchell, Monnett, Murphy, Patrick, Perdue, Prior, Read, Rostofer, > Sigman, Slabaugh, Slagle, Smith, Snyder, Vadakin, Wickiser, Wingo, Sink/Zinch > and a boatload of others. (A pun intended!) > > ==== VAFRANKL Mailing List ==== > The Franklin Co VAGenWeb "Surname Register" is located at URL: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafrankl/fran-sur.htm

The following files were uploaded to the Franklin County Archives in June. You may view these files at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/franklin.htm Ferguson Deed Abstracts, 1793-1799 (frgsn1.txt), file size 4.0 kb, submitted June 2000 by Bushy Hartman Ferguson/Lewellen Marriage Bond, 1829 (frgsn1.txt), file size 1.7 kb, submitted June 2000 by Bushy Hartman McGuire/Ferguson Marriage Bond, 1829 (mcguire1.txt), file size 1.6 kb, submitted June 2000 by Bushy Hartman McGuire/Rucker Marriage Bond, 1829 (mcguire2.txt), file size 2.0 kb, submitted June 2000 by Bushy Hartman Many thanks to our submitters! Won't you consider preserving & sharing your treasured documents by submitting a transcription of your own? What a wonderful way to show pride in your heritage while insuring these resources will still be around for future generations! Thank you, Jeannie Watts, archivist. ************* Now Available: "The Descendants of John Thomas Clay, Jamestown Immigrant and son of Sir John Clay of Wales" Also available: "The Descendants of James Bailey & Lucy Simms" For more info: http://www.trellis.net/users/madamx

Hi Listers, I found the abbreviation "Sur." before a name in a marriage record book from 1807. It reads: Asenath Arthur m. David Sink Aug 22, 1807. Sur. John Arthur. Does anyone know what the "Sur." means? Thanks so much and have a great evening!!! Rickie L. Mrs. Rickie Bennett Longfellow Researching: Arts, Arthur, Banks, Bartlett, Belcher, Bennett, Blankenship, Blevins, Boyd, Burrell, Clay, Cockrell, Crab, Dillon, Earl/Earles, Frogley, Greathouse, Green, Hale, Isham, Jefferson, Longfellow, Mason, McLaughlin, Miller, Mitchell, Monnett, Murphy, Patrick, Perdue, Prior, Read, Rostofer, Sigman, Slabaugh, Slagle, Smith, Snyder, Vadakin, Wickiser, Wingo, Sink/Zinch and a boatload of others. (A pun intended!)

Surnames: From VA, Maryland. DC. Carter, Kendall, Carlisle, Cole.Cross.Crown.Bennett.Bolton.Ford.Fox Butt, Newstead.Redman, Oden.Offutt.Utterback.Peddicord, Trammell.Helfin.Lane.Sealock.Rutherford, Mahorney, Daymude Grimes, Bennett, Barton, the list goes on. Date: July 16, 2000 Time: 12am - 5pm Place: Bohrer Park ****Formerly named Summit Hall Gaithersburg, MD Bohrer Park has a swimming pool And a miniature Golf on the premises However, there is an additional cost To use these facilities. We are located in the pavilion that has Picnic tables and grills for us to use. . You will need to bring a covered dish And beverages and lawn chairs. I am asking for a contribution of $10.00 per family Or $5.00per single person. Depending on the Number of families that respond with the $10.00 or $5.00 contribution, any excess funds over The amount of the rental of the park will be Applied to the purchase of paper products and Meat. Charcoal, etc. Please remember to bring pictures Of your family, ancestors/descendents. I will have a computer there to scan Pictures and other information. For more information, please contact Jan jcart54@aol.com

Looking for Moses Mayes 1775- 1820. Thanks, Max.

Does anyone have information on this Sleaton/Slaton or Dis Hong family June 6 1799, Drury HODGES was Surety for Edmond Smith Sleator (this last name is probably SLEATON) and Susanah DIS HONG in Franklin Co. VA. "Marriage bonds of Franklin Co. VA 1786-1858" by Wingfield page 208 I believe this Edmond Smith Sleaton may be related to the John and Edmund Slayden listed below. Susananh HODGES was the daughter of Edmund HODGES & Nepathia Walker, Susananh married John SLAYDEN, who had among other children an Edmund SLAYDEN born 2/13/1777 and died 11/9/1841 in Hopkins Co. KY. His grave has E. SLATON. He is named in his fathers will as Edmund SLAYDEN, and in Edmond HODGES will as Edmond SLAYTON. Most Ky records show the spelling as SLATON thanks for the help Mike

I am working to verify the dates of available vital records for Franklin County? I have...... Births 1853- Marriage 1785- Death 1853- If the above are true, are all records available at the courthouse? Also, can anyone lend insight into when any switches were made from registers to certificates? I want to make sure I am getting the best information available. I have heard stories of researchers elsewhere being given copies of the registers only, when a certificate was also be available with more information. As an f.y.i., Ancestry.com has a database available for FREE until 7/10/00. I found a few names in it, so it must be pretty large. I hope this is appropriate; I am not a marketing rep. or the like. http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4725.htm Thanks for any insight regarding the vital records, Chris Straight Fairchild, WI

I had a question on this site, and had an e-mail from helenRobinson@worldnet.att.net, I wrote to this address and it bounced back to me as undeliverable. Please contact me again. I do have information for you. Margaret Marheinek@aol.com

Queries posted the past week to this VAGenWeb QueryPage mentioned the following surname(s): ANGELL, GARDNER, GIBSON, HALL, HILL, KINSEY, MARTIN, MEADOWS, ROSS, SAUNDERS, TYRE, TYREE, WILLIAMS For those of you wanting to read these new queries, they are located at URL: <a href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafrankl/fran-qry.htm"> http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafrankl/fran-qry.htm </a> Regards, Freddie S. Fspradlin@earthlink.net 3448 W. 170th St, Torrance, CA 90504-2402

In a message dated 6/30/00 2:49:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Marheinek@aol.com writes: << I am still trying to find my John Robinson's wife's name. He may have served in teh Revolutionary War, and left VA with his two sons, George and Edward, for NC in late 1780s. My John was son of Thomas Robinson and Judith Legrand of Franklin Co., VA. >> Hi! I saw your above post and checked into my files. I was at a brick wall with my Edward ROBINSON/ROBERTSON b. 1770-1780 m. Mary COGAR in Franklin Co., VA in 1804. Then, I came across Edward and Mary at FamilySearch.com. I'm very leary about "stuff on the internet". There was a woman who submitted several generations of Edward and his ancestors. I wrote to her and she forwarded me her research with sources. Seemed to me like she really did her homework. According to her findings, John ROBERTSON'S wife was Elizabeth -?-. There son, Edward was my gggg grandfather. George would be Edward's brother. I do not know where George went, but Edward and his wife Mary COGAR settled in Braxton Co., (W)VA. He died there about 1836. John ROBERTSON was the s/o Thomas ROBINSON and Jane Magdaline LEGRAND. Thomas ROBINSON was the s/o John ROBINSON and Tabitha JONES. I have her information here, but have really not had time to really read it to make sense of it. She has this line back to England. I will be on vacation and won't be able to check email regularly, but get in touch with me and see what we can do. Remind me, because sometimes I get sooo much email I can not catch up with it all in a timely manner. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Cindy Ethier-Kostka Plymouth Co., MA http://members.aol.com/JCCEKOST/1index.html email: JCCEKOST@aol.com (primary email address) or ATWOOD1862@aol.com (for Atwood discussion list only) listowner for RIFFLE-L and SKINNER-L

Does anyone know what JOSEPH ROBINSON would have signed his name with the mark "Joseph R Robinson" on a deed between William Cox and Lucy Cox and John Robinson. This deed was from Cumberland Co, VA 26th Aug 1754. Other signers were Field Bradshaw, George Robinson and this Joseph. I have 3 Josephs in the index, but no clue as to one that would have signed with the "R". Also whose son this George was. Just trying to place these people. I am still trying to find my John Robinson's wife's name. He may have served in teh Revolutionary War, and left VA with his two sons, George and Edward, for NC in late 1780s. My John was son of Thomas Robinson and Judith Legrand of Franklin Co., VA.

I'm searching for information on James Adams who was born in Franklin Co., VA, on March 5, 1795, and died August 2, 1857, in Jasper Co, GA. James moved to Elbert Co., GA, from VA in 1818 or 1819. He married Frances Herndon on June 28, 1820. I need the names of James' parents, grandparents, etc, and his brothers and sisters, if he had any. I have undocumented data that James' parents are Thomas Adams, born 1761 and died 1844, and Mary White Adams. This information came from research done by one of James' grandsons. Ginger Virgina A. Perry ginger@canes.gsw.edu Sytems Analyst/Programmer phone: 912 931-2074 Administrative Computing Department fax: 912 931-2089 Georgia Southwestern State University Americus, GA 31709

John, I looked thru some Bedford, Campbell, Franklin published records here & found no Clifton and very little on Wood(s). Have you scoured Amherst Co. records? Obviously you've found proof for Austin's birth in Amherst, and Amherst had been in existence for 30 years before 1791. Was Austin born in 1791 or 1794-1797? Have you obtained either/or a Marriage Bond - Minister's return for the marriage between Austin & Eliza Woods? If so, what other names appear if any? Groping for clues. BILL HUNT From: "john p mcmenamin" <mack165@juno.com> To: <VAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:12 AM Subject: [VAFRANKL] ] AUSTIN CLIFTON 1791-1868 > > > --------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: john p mcmenamin <mack165@juno.com> > To: clifton-genealogy@egroups.com, CLIFTON-L@rootsweb.com > Cc: VAFRANKLIN-L@rootsweb.com, VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:05:47 -0700 > Subject: [clifton-genealogy] AUSTIN CLIFTON 1791-1868 > Message-ID: <20000628.070556.-30499.5.mack165@juno.com> > > I've asked this before , but maybe someone new has joined our lists and > may recognize my CLIFTON's: > Austin Clifton, born 1794/1797 in Amherst Co, VA and married Eliza > Woods(born 3/1804 in Franklin Co, VA). I can't seem to find much about > his father/mother: Jonathan Clifton, born about 1767 and married Ursley > Wood 6/16/1795 in Campbell Co, VA . He died after 1850 in Franklin Co, > VA. > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, John(Napa, CA) > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. > http://click.egroups.com/1/4634/14/_/145645/_/962201457/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To Post a message, send it to: clifton-genealogy@eGroups.com > > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: > clifton-genealogy-unsubscribe@eGroups.com > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > ==== VAFRANKL Mailing List ==== > The Franklin Co VAGenWeb "Surname Register" is located at URL: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafrankl/fran-sur.htm > >

--------- Forwarded message ---------- From: john p mcmenamin <mack165@juno.com> To: clifton-genealogy@egroups.com, CLIFTON-L@rootsweb.com Cc: VAFRANKLIN-L@rootsweb.com, VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:05:47 -0700 Subject: [clifton-genealogy] AUSTIN CLIFTON 1791-1868 Message-ID: <20000628.070556.-30499.5.mack165@juno.com> I've asked this before , but maybe someone new has joined our lists and may recognize my CLIFTON's: Austin Clifton, born 1794/1797 in Amherst Co, VA and married Eliza Woods(born 3/1804 in Franklin Co, VA). I can't seem to find much about his father/mother: Jonathan Clifton, born about 1767 and married Ursley Wood 6/16/1795 in Campbell Co, VA . He died after 1850 in Franklin Co, VA. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, John(Napa, CA) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/4634/14/_/145645/_/962201457/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Post a message, send it to: clifton-genealogy@eGroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: clifton-genealogy-unsubscribe@eGroups.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Queries posted the past week to this VAGenWeb QueryPage mentioned the following surname(s): LEGRAND, LUNEY, PROFITT, ROBERTSON, ROBINSON, ROBONSON, STEPHENS For those of you wanting to read these new queries, they are located at URL: <a href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafrankl/fran-qry.htm"> http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafrankl/fran-qry.htm </a> Regards, Freddie S. Fspradlin@earthlink.net 3448 W. 170th St, Torrance, CA 90504-2402

Please note the following announcement concerning a family reunion of the descendants of Thomas Otey Ingram and Sarah Deborah Hatcher. Ingram Family Reunion Knob Primitive Baptist Church Sunday August 6th, 2000 Picnic Shed and Church open by 10:00 a.m. Short business meeting at 1:30 Covered dish lunch at 2:00 p.m. Any questions e-mail Ronald Ingram at <roi1@swva.net> or or Carl Ingram at <cingram@neocomm.net>. Sunday, Aug 6th will mark another year which has come and gone since our last reunion. To my knowledge we have only lost one member of the Ingram Family since the last reunion. This was Herman Ingram (Uncle Thomas Otey Ingram's oldest son) who past away in Florida. Please plan to attend and help us make this a memorable reunion. I am counting on each of you to spread the word to all the family and friends. Please bring any ideas and suggestions to help increase the attendance and make our reunion interesting and successful. Bring a covered dish and any things which may be of interest to the families, such as old photos, family bibles, old stories, etc. The church has bathrooms and picnic area is pretty shady. Please bring folding chairs. The church is located on Knob Church Road in Henry, Va. Directions from US 220: from Martinsville take a left on State Route 605 or from Roanoke take a right on State Route 605, then go approximately 9 miles on State Route 605 until you come to Mill Creek Baptist Church, at the Church take a left on State Route 798 (Knob Church Road) and go approximately 2 miles and house is on the left. If anyone has other family members email address, please send them to me and I will resend this message about two weeks before the reunion. Hope to see all of you all there Ronald Ingram 525 Knob Church Road Henry, Va 24102 <roi1@swva.net> -- Visit our genealogy web page at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=evaden

Hello Franklin County Researchers. I will need to sign off from the list for awhile in July so I'll post my request. I'm searching for the parents of my gr gr grandmother Lucinda MANNING. I believe she was born in 1804 Franklin County. Lucinda was first marr. to Robert RUSSELL about 1825. Her second marr. was to my gr gr grandfather Thomas ADAMS 1836 probably in Ky. I believe Lucinda had a sister named Catherine MANNING who was born abt. 1811. Catherine marr. William Watson ADAMS 3/7/1833 in Nicholas County, Ky. William Watson ADAMS was a brother to my Thomas ADAMS. I'm quite sure Lucinda & Catherine were sisters because William Watson & Catherine had a daughter named Lucinda ADAMS born 1834. I believe the father of Lucinda & Catherine was either William or Henry MANNING, could have been William Henry MANNING. I'm interested in any data regarding this MANNING family. Thanks in advance for your help. Ed Jones New Palestine, In.