--WebTV-Mail-13621-1109 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-13621-1109 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQzLGn/kfNPIZKxykWQdkvb7sHQCgIUOME72LFYZ+2+9R7sGJ63s3s4LH4= From: LeeFinds@webtv.net (Susan Herrmann) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:23:47 -0500 (EST) To: Bervi@aol.com Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Fwd: Re: Family of Walter Bernard Message-ID: <1371-3A8C56F3-1568@storefull-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Bervi@aol.com's message of Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:11:16 EST Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-18895-791 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) --WebTV-Mail-18895-791 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Thanks Peter == my date for Walter Scott Bernard's birth is pretty firm -- so it looks like both of these young Walters are too old -- the youngest one by 4 years. I took another look at the Walter and the Ann in the Sarah Bernard household in Little River County again and from the way the names are written it really does look like they are Chitwood children -- not Bernard . Perhaps the 1880 cencus would clarify that situation. Susan --WebTV-Mail-18895-791 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.96) by storefull-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 4ED8B139; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:13:59 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: leefinds@webtv.net Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F7D1E7 for <LeeFinds@webtv.net>; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from Bervi@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id 2.9f.11425123 (3859) for <LeeFinds@webtv.net>; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:11:16 -0500 (EST) From: Bervi@aol.com Message-ID: <9f.11425123.27bd83d4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:11:16 EST Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] Fwd: Re: Family of Walter Bernard To: LeeFinds@webtv.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 In a message dated 2/15/01 7:26:53 AM, LeeFinds@webtv.net writes: << Robert and Sarah Bernard had a son WALTER that married an ABIGAIL HUMBRICK at age 44 >> Lee, Hope this is of some help Peter Ramsey 1870 census recently pub'd by Bev Merritt shows following 2 entries for a Walter Bernard: -=-=-=- Rocky Mt. East Dist. Hse17 Abegail Hambrick, 38, Housekeeping William, 30, farm labor Charles, 16, farm labor Asa, 12 Walter, 9 Jefferson 8 Nicholas 6 Sallie 4 Ray 2 Walter Bernard 40 carpenter Lucy Gibson 24 domestic servant Hse 175 Thomas H. Bernard, 46, Farmer Sallie A. 39, Housekeeping Walter 17, farm labor Arthur 11, at home Zadok 6 Willie T. 3 Nancy O. Eudaily 60, W/occ Ellen V. Orr 17, at school ================= --WebTV-Mail-18895-791-- --WebTV-Mail-13621-1109--

--WebTV-Mail-16456-1023 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-16456-1023 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAogDX4DXsFqfW0Bs3hV8zVDKjx8ICFAD7lQPncXHewNS8O1RksZu8DZMl From: LeeFinds@webtv.net (Susan Herrmann) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:07:30 -0500 (EST) To: VAFRANKL-L@webroots.com Subject: the rest of the Bernard letter Message-ID: <5304-3A895BC2-3710@storefull-106.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sorry, Bambi and everyone, this web tv can really be annoying sometimes, it is so easy to accidently send you letter before your ready Thanks for the help any one can send me. Walter Scott Berard would not talk about his father so there seems to be some mystery here. Thanks, Susan --WebTV-Mail-16456-1023--

--WebTV-Mail-6647-816 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-6647-816 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQ+rxDwGQFIIh4+XjyT4JNkS1LEOAIVAL1h9HXFH6ltyYcUNB3QahQb7RVK From: LeeFinds@webtv.net (Susan Herrmann) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:59:54 -0500 (EST) To: VAFRANKL-L@webroots.com Subject: Re: Family of Walter Bernard Message-ID: <5304-3A8959FA-3701@storefull-106.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Bambi Woods" <bambi@ithink.net>'s message of Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:39:33 -0500 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-20042-1999 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) --WebTV-Mail-20042-1999 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Bambi, I am looking for the father of my great grandfather Walter Scott Bernard. APPARENTLY, his father's name was also WALTER. (I can't say I'm absolutly convinced as I've been given incorrect info about him before) . According to the Arkansas 1900 cencus he was born in Virginia and so was his father. Walter S.B. was born Oct 1865. His mother born in New Jersey. I'm told his mother's last name was Scott. And he's a descendant from Pocahontas (at least that jives w the Scott) I had been told he had a sister named Ida but that was recently corrected to ANN. So , having heard it was Ann instead of Ida, I decided to take another look at some notes I took years ago on the 1870 Franklin county cencus. What I found was a 40 yr old Walter Bernard apparently living alone in Rocky Mount Township (unusual for a man that age in those times) and a little Walter of the right age (within a year) and a little Ann living in a Bernard household also in Rocky Mount. Well, actually I can't tell from my notes if these are children of a John Chitwood who apparently is the husband of Ruth Bernard. But I know from reading the VAFRANKL archives that Robert and Sarah Bernard had a son WALTER that married an ABIGAIL HUMBRICK at age 44 (date doesn'texactly jive w cencus but is prtett clear the census takers weren't terribly carefull about ages) So I can only say I suspect I have found the right branch of the family tree. I don't have alot to go on. Wlater Scott Bernard ran away from home at age 13 and apparently never went home. So the only cencus he would be on with his parents is 1870. But his sister Ann would likely have stayed home and I know she married an Emmet Allen (he was a banker or was it doctor? in Mobile Alabama) So a list of marriages of these children might nail the question. --WebTV-Mail-20042-1999 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-102-6.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.43) by storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-102-6.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 889AA103; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:41:01 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: leefinds@webtv.net Received: from pompano.ithink.com (pompano.ithink.com [207.190.0.12]) by smtpin-102-6.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDC91CF for <LeeFinds@webtv.net>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from davidwoods (sandbar121.ithink.net [207.190.11.121]) by pompano.ithink.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.6) with SMTP id <B0012563492@pompano.ithink.com> for <LeeFinds@webtv.net>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:30:14 -0500 Message-ID: <002c01c09501$9e7e5800$790bbecf@davidwoods> From: "Bambi Woods" <bambi@ithink.net> To: "Susan Herrmann" <LeeFinds@webtv.net> References: <10556-3A86C91F-657@storefull-107.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Family of Walter Bernard Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:39:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Susan- Please write to me reference Abigail and Walter Bernard. I have a great deal of information on this family and may be able to help you. To my knowledge, Walter Bernard was never married previous to Abigail Hambrick. The children that are listed for them are Abigail's. The later children are Walters, but since some were born previous to their marriage it is difficult to sort out which children were positively Walters. Who is the greatgrandfather you are tracing? Bambi Hambrick Woods bambi@ithink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Herrmann" <LeeFinds@webtv.net> To: <VAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: Family of Walter Bernard > > This is for Donna (ktryga11) or any others who can send additional info; > > Donna, in your post 89deda6a.35f5a44a@aol.com you say: > > "Abagail Humbrick, age 41 d/o Elizabeth Unknow, married Watten (Walter) > Bernard, age 44, s/o Robert and Sarah Bernard, married on 2-3-1871... I > have several marriages for children of Walter and Abagail Bernard if you > need them" > > My Request : > Would you please send me all the names dates and > marriages of these children -- actually of ANY of the children of this > Walter Bernard. > > It's very likely that he had children from a previous marriage and one > of these children is my great great grandfather, the dates would assist > me greatly in solving a long term mystery. Possibly the children from > Walter''s first marriage are listed as his and Abagail"s > > Thanks so much , > > Susan > > > ==== VAFRANKL Mailing List ==== > TO UNSUBSCRIBE from this mailing list, send a message to > VAFRANKL-L-request@rootsweb.com containing only the one word > unsubscribe. 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Searching for information on Peachy Dodson. He is found on the 1880 Franklin County Census in the Brown Hill District. Please contact Beverly at beverlym@swva.net. Thank you.

It was no problem at all! ----------------------------------------- At 12:40 PM 02/12/2001 -0500, you wrote: >My two cents worth. >I don't feel like asking for more work for someone who is already >volunteering their >time in order to help others in their research. >Sincerely, Donna > > >==== VAFRANKL Mailing List ==== >Franklin Co., Va. List Archives >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?listname=VAFRANKL > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

My two cents worth. I don't feel like asking for more work for someone who is already volunteering their time in order to help others in their research. Sincerely, Donna

VAFRANKL has been added to the subject line. Barb S. List Administrator

Don; I use the Rules Wizard in MS Outlook to automatically sort my email into folders. I've got a folder for each list I belong to. So all emails going to an address with VAFRANKL-L on the To line goes into a folder called VA Franklin Co. Some of my folders for very remote surnames I only read once every 2-3 weeks and delete most of it based on the Subject line. It lets me focus on one surname or county at a time - particularly helpful when I'm involved in a threaded discussion... I also have the Wizard sort the rest of my known mail for me. Virtually the only thing left in my in box is spam which I can quickly delete by reviewing Subject lines... By the way I vote for the list name in the subject line, too, but it's not as critical for me. Hope this helps (let the PC work for you) Jim Bartlett, Gaithersburg, MD jimbartlett@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Don L. Fox [SMTP:donfox@cybertrails.com] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 2:34 PM To: VAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Subject line entry Will the list administrator please arrange to have VAFRANKL-L put in the subject line of all messages sent through the list? Almost all of the other rootsweb lists do that. It makes it faster to know what to open or delete. Thanks Don L. Fox DonFox@cybertrails.com ==== VAFRANKL Mailing List ==== Franklin Co., Va. List Administrator Barbara Stanley bobnroa@pipeline.com or VAFRANKL-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

If there such a thing as a vote, I also would like the subject line used. Linda

I'll vote for that!!!! Hope the change is made soon. Edna Clack << Will the list administrator please arrange to have VAFRANKL-L put in the subject line of all messages sent through the list? Almost all of the other rootsweb lists do that. It makes it faster to know what to open or delete. >>

This is for Donna (ktryga11) or any others who can send additional info; Donna, in your post 89deda6a.35f5a44a@aol.com you say: "Abagail Humbrick, age 41 d/o Elizabeth Unknow, married Watten (Walter) Bernard, age 44, s/o Robert and Sarah Bernard, married on 2-3-1871... I have several marriages for children of Walter and Abagail Bernard if you need them" My Request : Would you please send me all the names dates and marriages of these children -- actually of ANY of the children of this Walter Bernard. It's very likely that he had children from a previous marriage and one of these children is my great great grandfather, the dates would assist me greatly in solving a long term mystery. Possibly the children from Walter''s first marriage are listed as his and Abagail"s Thanks so much , Susan

Will the list administrator please arrange to have VAFRANKL-L put in the subject line of all messages sent through the list? Almost all of the other rootsweb lists do that. It makes it faster to know what to open or delete. Thanks Don L. Fox DonFox@cybertrails.com

Permelia born about 1802, probably in Franklin County, Va. , she had several children with a William Brown. I would like to know who her parents are? Who William's parents are? Was William marriage to someone else and he and Permelia had all these children on the side. Children I have are : 1. William T.H. Brown 2.Silas H. Brown married Elizabeth Sloan 3.James H. Brown m. Julia Perdue 4.Sarah H. Brown m. Calvin Forbes 5.Mahala ...................... Can anyone tell me about this family. 1860 Franklin County,Va Census N.E. District HH 439 Permelia Hutts 58 fe 1450.00 85.00 Eliza Hutts 28 fe Wm.T.H.Brown 26 m carpenter 145.00 Sarah Forbes 20 fe Calvin E.Forbes 27 male farmer 80.00 Mahala Brown 18 fe

Wonderful ideas you have! Beverly was in this morning and brought your book. I have enjoyed looking at it, and so much information is there for researchers. Thanks and I have turned in the invoice for your payment. Pat --- VAFRANKL-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > VAFRANKL-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 10 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Family Reunions > [Ktrygal1@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > DO NOT post/reply to VAFRANKL-D@rootsweb.com (DIGEST > mode) > Send all post/replies to VAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > All messages will be saved and sent to DIGEST > subscribers in turn. > DO NOT "quote" digest messages in their entirety > when replying to > one of its component parts. Delete the irrelevant > portions. > And remember to change the SUBJECT line to something > relevant. > You may search the archived postings to this list at > URL: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VAFRANKL > > Always be careful about opening unexpected > attachments, > particularly if you don't recognize the email > address of > the sender. > > > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:09:54 EST > From: Ktrygal1@aol.com > To: VAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Family Reunions > > Are you planning a family reunion? > > A group of local genealogist and historians who have > written books that have > something to do with the history and/or the > genealogy of Franklin County, Va., > this group will come to your family reunion and set > up a table and offer > their books for sale. > There are also some in the group that will do > research. > There is one in the group that will take a child, > grandchild, grandparents, > parents, yourself etc. and make a book of your > family. > > If you want a family cookbook, everyone in the > family could send in their > favorite recipes and photo's and this could be made > into a book. > > If you have a big family and you would like to do > newsletter's a couple times > a year, to tell stories of the family, announce > births, deaths, marriages > etc., put in recipes, > announce important dates, info about the annual > reunions. We have someone in > the group who can do this for your family. > > If you are interested please contact: > Donna Brown Wilkes > 2935 Iron Ridge Road > Rocky Mount, VA 24151 > 540-483-3392 > ktrygal1@aol.com > > THANK YOU! > > "A project without end, life goes on, history is > made everyday, it is the > task of each one of us to correct, restore and > preserve our family history > for future generations." > Donna > __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Are you planning a family reunion? A group of local genealogist and historians who have written books that have something to do with the history and/or the genealogy of Franklin County, Va., this group will come to your family reunion and set up a table and offer their books for sale. There are also some in the group that will do research. There is one in the group that will take a child, grandchild, grandparents, parents, yourself etc. and make a book of your family. If you want a family cookbook, everyone in the family could send in their favorite recipes and photo's and this could be made into a book. If you have a big family and you would like to do newsletter's a couple times a year, to tell stories of the family, announce births, deaths, marriages etc., put in recipes, announce important dates, info about the annual reunions. We have someone in the group who can do this for your family. If you are interested please contact: Donna Brown Wilkes 2935 Iron Ridge Road Rocky Mount, VA 24151 540-483-3392 ktrygal1@aol.com THANK YOU! "A project without end, life goes on, history is made everyday, it is the task of each one of us to correct, restore and preserve our family history for future generations." Donna

<< George Washington Lavinder served in the 19th Va. Infantry in the Civil War- No documents to back this up.>> Hey all, I don't believe (but could be wrong) that George Washington Lavinder served in any Civil War unit officially as he was, according to our family tradition a cripple and used a crutch or cane from an early age. This crutch or cane was taken from George and used as a weapon to kill him in some kind of altercation on the courthouse steps at Rocky Mount. My Gr Gr grandfather Lewis Lavinder is supposed to have revenged the murder of his father and hid out in West Virginia for awhile, but came back at a later date and married Emma Goode in Franklin Co., Virginia. My Gr grandmother was born at Ferrum, Franklin Co., Virginia and later moved to Monroe and then Fayette Co., West Virginia. The Lavinder family of West Virginia was very heavy into the coal industry and were very involved in the mine wars of West Virginia. Any information that expands what is already known of the incident at Rocky Mount would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan Cook _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

George Washington Lavinder, asking for any information about his death.  I have two stories. 1. He went to a political meeting on crutches, his son Lewis was with him. A fight broke out and George was killed.  Later Lewis went and found the man that killed his father and Lewis killed him, then he fled to West Va. 2.The article in the Salem-Ledger on June, 18, 1870. Headlines- Fatal Affray at Rocky Mount, VA. A George Lavinder on the 6th of June, 1870 was in Rocky Mount over an incident about a dog. Other's involved include Otto Goplin, Justice Henderson, a Bowles man. George died from a cracked skull the next night. George had a son with him. He left behind a wife and six children George Washington Lavinder was born about 1820 in Franklin County, Va. and died June, 1870 in Franklin County, Va., he was the son of William and Rachel Parcell Lavinder. He married Sarah Ann (Sallie) Stegall (Stegal,Steagal,Stagal) Jan. 1851 in Franklin County, Va. Sarah Ann Stegall was the daughter of Drinkard and Jane Warren Stegall. Other info: George Washington Lavinder served in the 19th Va. Infantry in the Civil War- No documents to back this up. If you have any information on any of the above please email me or write to me at , Donna Brown Wilkes, 2935 Iron Ridge Road, Rocky Mount, Va 24151 Thank you, Donna p.s. I am happy to share info.

The updated and final Franklin County migration summary, that many of you helped to compile, can be found at the following URL: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3412/Migration.html Thanks again to everyone for their contributions and as my Grandma Coleman used to say, "Ya'll come!" Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 >To: bobnroa@pipeline.com >From: Beverly Merritt <beverlym@swva.net> > >Hi Barb, >I just ran across something interesting and I don't know how to post it, >would you please? > >In Deed Book 10, Page 497, James Young is listed as alias Lamb. This might >be important for those searching the Young or Lamb lines. No explanation >of why the alias, it's just mentioned there. Maybe these aliases are why >we can't find some names, maybe we should start an alias list. I know >there are several Fergusons that were alias Thornton & vice versa. > >Thanks, Beverly

At 08:35 PM 01/28/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Can anyone give me the e-mail address for the Franklin Co. VA Genealogical >and Historical Society? >I appreciate the help, >Donna in CA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is no longer a Genealogical Society. Franklin County Historical Society Mailing address: P.O. Box 905 Rocky Mount, VA 24151 Location: 95 Floyd Ave., Rocky Mount, VA (the old Dr. Colley medical building now housing Franklin County Retail Merchants Assn.) Telephone: (540) 483-1890, Fax (540).483-6828, E-mail fchs@neocom.net >==== VAFRANKL Mailing List ==== >The Franklin Co VAGenWeb "Family WebPage" list is located at URL: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafrankl/fran-web.htm > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog