Jeff, Will put the FTM report in the mail tomorrow but my printer is out of ink so cannot copy for you the photo of James H Harlow or the map from Bill Tiernan (this just isn't my day for mechanical gadgets!) and will be in DC tomorrow so will have to send the photo and map on TUES - Re Bessie Dudley - she married George Pace (the bad news - Fluvanna and Albemarle Co are LOADED with Paces! The good news - there are so many you might have good luck tracing their descendants!) and they had at least two children - Claude and Evelyn. Again, according to Bill Tiernan, Bessie and George ran a small store in the Cunningham community. And Cunningham always was and is small - doesn't have its own PO even - just a few square miles of "neighborhood" in the country - a crossroads really - If you want to hire someone to help with the research in the Fluvanna/Albemarle area, you might try Alice Owens at caddowens@juno.com. She might even do some work for free, if you only need a couple quick things from the Fluvanna clerk's office and it is on her way. I corresponded with her off and on about a mutual surname (Goodman) and even met her once when I was in Fluvanna clerk's office and she happened to be there. Seems very nice but I cant vouch for her work since I have never hired her. I also suggest you list your surname(s) on the Fluvanna genweb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb. This is a great Internet resource for info on Fluvanna co and its families and through it you can get info on the Fluvanna library hours (they actually have a nice little genealogy section for such a small place - almost exclusively devoted to Fluvanna genealogy and worth checking out. I found some neat things there related to the Hadens.) and info on the hours of the county clerk's office and what records they have there. Also, the Fluvanna Co Historical Society - onlyopen on Sundays I think but their publication has all kinds of info about the County and County families and the Fluvanna Library has all the back issues and indexes - I have found that fellow-researchers are usually good about helping and will even do lookups if they are going to a clerk's office or courthouse - for free. You can find them on the county lists - . check out : vaalbema-d@rootsweb.com vafluvan-l@rootsweb.com These are the county lists that people use to communicate info about familyand events in Fluvanna and Albemarle co's - you can get on the list and get their messages automatically via emailwhen the lists are distributed- worth it - I have found some info and leads that way - the membership to the lists is free... Through the Fluvanna genweb page you can also get to the Albemarle Co page and list your names there in case any of your relatives moved to that County (Charlottesville is in Albemarle.) You may already be familiar with the genweb system but if not you will see that every co in the nation has (or hopefully will have) a page for genealogy and the whole rootsweb network is a great resource. In checking the book "Fluvanna Co VA Death records 1853-1896" I find: Dudley, Rosa, L. (white Female) d. 3 Feb. 1884, of consumption, aged 21 yrs, d/o Ralph and Florilla Dudley, b. Fluv, brother reported. Thomas Dudley 's father was R.S. Dudley and his mother's name was something like Fonilla (I couldn't read her name clearly) - wonder if this Ralph and Florilla are the parents of your 2nd gr grandfather, Thomas Dudley...? The same book has an entry: Dudley, Jerry M (white male) [farmer] d. Aug 10, 1888 of malarial fever, aged 33 yr, s/o Ralph S and T Dudley, b. Fluvanna, T Dudley mother rept. Could be the authors of the book simply misread F for T and this is also part of your family...I've seen names spelled different ways or misspelled - it happens - if you go to Fluvanna Co yourself, the death records at the clerk's office would be worth checking out to see whether you can make out the names and initials here and make some connections or at least some guesses. Also, if you check the marriage records of some of these folks you can trace their parents and make connections. Now here's a good one: Dudley, Ralph S. (white male) [farmer] d. 9 May 1891 of consumption, aged 70 yrs, s/o Jacob and Patsy Dudley, b. Fluv. If you can prove that Ralph S is your 3rd gr grandfather, this one entry also gives you HIS parents, your 4th gr grandparents! Fluvanna Co also has copies of wills and estate administration papers (that's where I found the info about Amanda Tompkins having her property auctioned off after her husband Lancelot's death) - check these out to see if any of your relatives appear - wills esp can give info on children and relationships - Also deeds, although I have never used them - also at the clerk's office - I think the clerk's office also has some census records - starting in 1850, the census records include names and other info on household members - before that they only included the name of the H of H with other household members simply counted as numbers (ie, 3 white, 3 female) YES!!!! Found them!!! I just checked my cd of 1850 VA census and there they are - !! But in 1850 your Dudleys lived in Albemarle Co : Ralph S Dudley, aged 35, male, farmer, value of real estate owned = $5000 Sarah, 23,female Jane, 6 female Margaret, 4, female Thomas R, 3, male Leroy, 2, male William Hughes, 62, male, wheelwright Elijah Hughes, 22, male, laborer Lilburn Hughes, 18, male Malinda Hughes, 16, female John Dudley, 24, male, laborer Henry Eades, 23 ,male Your Thomas Dudley was born in Nov 1847 in Albemarle Co according to the 1900 census- I bet this is him! But then, who's this Sarah woman in the household if his mother was Fonilla? Unless Sarah died and Fonilla/Florilla was the stepmother...? If this Ralph S was 35 in 1850 (and mind you, the ages aren't always right, depending on who is giving the census taker the info - sometimes if no one was home the census taker went to the neighbors and took their opinions on ages, places of birth, etc.! And since many of these people were illiterate they might not always be clear themselves on just how old they or their relatives are...) he was born circa 1815....the Ralph S who died in 1891 of consumption (which is TB in case you didn't know) would have been born circa 1821 - the record doesn't say who reported his death - if it was a neighbor, he could have guessed at the age - could be your ancestor... Jeez, I hope I am not taking all the fun out of this for you - believe me, there will be PLENTY more for you to research on your own...just thought I'd help but hope this doesn't ruin the thrill of the hunt for you...it's just that I paid good money for these resources and want to be able to help others so they don't have to pay for them! Also I hope I amnot telling you things you already know about other genealogy resources, etc., (like the gen web pages, lists, etc.) - if so plse forgive my aggressive enthusiasm! I know I didn't give you a chance to get a word in edgewise when we spoke today - I am usually not so obnoxious, really...my apologies. Will send the FTM report tomorrow and the photocopies on TUES - best of luck to you in your research and let's keep in touch - Louise

Subject: [VAGEN-L] SK Census CD's SK Publications has prepared a VA page for ordering census cd's, which results in getting the images online for free access to all. http://www.skpub.com/genie/censuscd/va.html The page offers a way for groups to order/initiate the cd processing so the cost per person can be reduced. If there's enough interest, our list members might benefit together. PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH OUR ENTIRE MAILING LIST ! glenn

Mary - my Adams originated in Stafford Co and migrated to "Black Walnut" Halifax Couny - I do not have a Mary Adams, but I did not keep up with the siblings of my ancestors. My line is below - as you can see I am descended twice from these Adams - Good Luck Descendants of John Adams 1 John Adams b: 1640 . 2 John Adams, Jr. b: Abt. 1647 in Stafford County, Va ..... +Katherine Napier b: 1651 in Stafford, Virginia .... 3 Gabriel Adams b: 1690 in Stafford County, Va ........ +Priscilla Pearson b: 1700 in Stafford County, Va ....... 4 John Adams, Sr b: 1742 in Stafford, Va ........... +Susan Wood b: 1730 in Brunswick, Va ........... 5 William Adams b: 1756 in Black Walnut, Halifax Co., Va ............... +[1] Elizabeth Boyd b: 1761 in Halifax County, Va .............. 6 [2] Richard Adams .................. +[3] Nancy Ann Brown Tucker b: 1799 ................. 7 [4] Mary Susan Adams b: 1823 d: 1862 in Fluvanna County, Va ..................... +[5] Thomas Anderson Hughes b: 1821 in Fluvanna County, VA d: Apr 07, 1862 in Fluvanna County, Va ..................... 8 [6] Eldridge Tucker Hughes b: Mar 18, 1846 in Cliffden, Fluvanna Co., Va d: Feb 1936 in Columbia, VA ......................... +[7] Rebekah Poe ..................... *2nd Wife of [6] Eldridge Tucker Hughes: ......................... +[8] Nancy Ann Beverley Perkins b: Oct 18, 1849 in Fluvanna County, Va d: Sep 04, 1883 in Fluvanna County, Va aka: Nannie ................. 7 [9] Mary Elizabeth Acree Adams b: May 03, 1828 in Virginia d: May 10, 1888 ..................... +[10] Albert Washington Traylor ................. 7 [11] Jane Page Adams b: Aug 14, 1825 ..................... +[12] William Archer Traylor ..................... 8 [13] Virginia Adams Traylor .............. 6 [14] John Adams II .................. +[15] Rebecca Randolph Tucker b: 1787 ................. 7 [16] Eliza Tucker Adams ..................... +[17] Joseph H Turner d: in Columbia, Va ..................... 8 [18] Harriette Wilmer Turner b: Abt. 1840 ......................... +[19] Charles Edward Cosby b: Nov 19, 1837 in Halifax, Va d: Nov 07, 1897 in Columbia, Va ..................... *2nd Husband of [18] Harriette Wilmer Turner: ......................... +[20] Joseph Shelton ..................... 8 [21] Jane Adams Turner ......................... +[22] Abraham (Pete) Shepherd III ...........

Can you tell me where your John ADAMS family was from? I have two CLARKSON brothers, Benjamin and Joseph who settled in Fluvanna Co from Essex Co. Their parents were James CLARKSON and Mary ADAMS. James and Mary were married by Jessie Carter but I don't know where and have not been able to find her family. Possibly King and Queen Co where there was a Rev. Jessie Carter. Any advice or connections? Mary -- http://sites.netscape.net/mbuchholzm/dakotawools.htm mailto:shepherd@iw.net Mary Buchholz HCR 62, Box 7 Belle Fourche, SD 57717 605-892-4268 phone & fax CLARKSON/BUCHHOLZ/MORIARTY/REITER/DOOLITTLE/ BANCROFT/MORSE/CARR/HAMMOND/TANNER/FOSTER/FORTH

Does anyone know of an old tavern in this county tbelonged many years ago to Giles Allegre? The name may be the Lafayette Tavern now. Would there be a chance that there would be a picture of this existing? Giles Allegre, Sr is my family line.

I'm trying to find Joseph H Turner - He was first listed in the Fluvanna Co., Va (Columbia) census in 1940 and lastly in 1970. He married Eliza Tucker Adams, dau of John Adams, II and Rebecca Tucker( of Powhatan Co) in 1834. They had two daughters that I know of, Harriet Wilmer Turner(my ggrandmother) and Jane Adams Turner. Someone emailed me that a Joseph H Turner had buried his mother and that her name was Mary Hart, but I have lost the email and can't substantiate it. I am very, very anxious to find the ancestors of Joseph H Turner. CAN ANYONE HELP ME???? ...........Jane Hughes Lomel

Wondered if someone with knowledge of estate settlements might be able to lead me in the right direction. In March 1838 the will of Micajah MANLEY of Fluvanna County was presented in court. In it he mentions bequeaths to "the children of my son, Hesakier, shall have an equal sher of what will be sold at my Sale". Hezekiah MANLEY died in Fluvanna Co. in 1834 (no probate record). His widow, Susan (BASS) MANLEY, married again in 1836 to William CURRIER. The names of Hezekiah's children are unknown, although I suspect they may have been Samuel MANLEY, b.1829 and Caroline MANLEY b. 1830, possibly others. In 1849 Caroline MANLEY married in Albemarle Co. to Shadrach BISHOP and at that time asked Shadrach to be her legal guardian, as she was an orphan over the age of 16 and had no guardian. My question is this - would there have been any documentation distributing the estate of Micajah MANLEY that would mention these "children" by name? Are there any other sources that I should be checking to help determine the names of these children? Any help/suggestions appreciated. Thanks. Steve in Ontario

Hi Sharon: Thanks for answering my query. Yes, I do have abit more information on Lucy and her family. Lucy E. McLAIN married William James CLEMENTS on 16 November 1871 at Fluvanna County, VA. The full entry reads: 16 November 1871, Fluvanna County, VA, Circuit Court, P.91, line 70 GROOM - Wm. J. CLEMENTS, white, age 21, single, born Fluvanna, son of Peter F. & Martha E. CLEMENTS, farmer BRIDE - Lucy E. McLAIN, white, age 22, single, born Fluvanna, dau. of M.G. & Elizth. McLAIN Minister - Wm. S. Parrish William's birth and death dates are taken from his Death Certificate #26164, recorded at Henrico Co. The information was supplied by his daughter, Mrs. Gertrude Childress. The Fluvanna Death records lists the death of Lucy CLEMENTS on 29 January 1876 - here is the entry: FLUVANNA COUNTY DEATH REGISTER, 1867-69 Page 49, Line 9 CLEMENTS, Lucy E., white, female, died 29 January 1876, died at Fluvanna, age 30 years, of childbirth, born at Fluvanna, parents Matt & Elizabeth McLain, consort of William J. Clements, informant - husband. Lucy's son, name unknown, died in Fluvanna in March 1876, age 2 months. She may have had twins in January 1876 when she died, as there was a daughter, Laura, who according to census information was born in Jan.1876 also. She was also the mother of William's daughters - Lelia G. (b1874) and Laura E. (b.Jan. 1876). My interest is actually through William's second wife, Lady Bugg Bishop. Would be interested in comparing notes on the McLAIN family - I'm also a MANLEY researcher (Tabitha MANLEY = Geroge McLAIN). Steve in Ontario -----Original Message----- From: Findme123@aol.com <Findme123@aol.com> To: VAFLUVAN-L@rootsweb.com <VAFLUVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: January 10, 2000 12:43 PM Subject: [VAFLUVAN] Re: VAFLUVAN-D Digest V00 #3 In a message dated 1/9/00 10:54:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, VAFLUVAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << 1. William James CLEMENTS 1850-1933 m(1) Lucy McLAIN 1871 >> I have this marriage in my files. Lucy McLain was sister to Sarah M McLain who md Henry Clay Whitton. Whitton is my line. I do have some McLain info to share if you are interested. Could you tell me a marriage date and place for them and possibly the death date of Lucy? Also what are your sources for William Clements dates? Sharon

JOHN AND THOMAS WINCHESTER were in GUILFORD COUNTY, NC maybe as early as 1768 or earlier. I am looking for any WINCHESTER that may have been in VIRGINIA prior to the date of 1768. I feel my Winchester family migrated from Virginia into North Carolina. Therefore, some 52 Counties list are being contacted in hopes someone has information on the WINCHESTER FAMILY in Virginia prior to 1768. Thank you, WARREN WINCHESTER

In a message dated 1/9/00 10:54:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, VAFLUVAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << 1. William James CLEMENTS 1850-1933 m(1) Lucy McLAIN 1871 >> I have this marriage in my files. Lucy McLain was sister to Sarah M McLain who md Henry Clay Whitton. Whitton is my line. I do have some McLain info to share if you are interested. Could you tell me a marriage date and place for them and possibly the death date of Lucy? Also what are your sources for William Clements dates? Sharon

Hi Duncan researchers, In the Spring, 1999 issue of "The Bulletin" publication of the Fluvanna County Historical Society, # 67 p. 21 is an article called "The Peyton Saga" and written by Ellen Miyagawa deals with the will of bachelor John Peyton. John was living with a Mrs. Mary Duncan, who had seven children. Her children were John Duncan, Howell Lewis Langham Duncan, Robert Peyton Duncan (youngest, born c.1799), Nancy, Patty, Salley, and Betsey. Ms Miyagawa suggested that this Mary might be the wife of John Duncan, brother of George. John and George married daughters of Robert Hall. From the Will of Robert Hall. "WILL: PR 8 May 1760 St. Ann's Parish Richard Hall, wife Ann and children Elizabeth, John, Richard, Mary Trent, Ann Duncan, Jane Duncan, grandchild John Hall Trent, son-in-law, George Duncan, and John Duncan. Executor, wife Ann Hall, d. Elizabeth Hall and Thomas Tindall. Witness; Wm. Ballus, Thomas Ballow and Thomas Robinson." Here is the group sheet of John and Jane Duncan family. - ------------------------------------------------ (1) 1. John D. Duncan Birth Date: 23 Aug 1730 Birth Place: Glasgow, Scotland Death Date: 1807 Spouse: Jane Hall Spouse Father: Richard Hall (1704-1760) Spouse Mother: Ann Duncan Children: Lavinia "Viney"; Spicey; George B.; Claiborne; Elizabeth; Charles; Nancy; Vina; William; Wiatt; Wortley; Polly; John; Patsy; So I believe that Mary was the wife of William Duncan. Source is below. Annotations from "The Diary of Robert Rose" p. 245 Martin Duncan and his wife Mary were indentured servants of William Cabell. In 1741, Cabell brought a sixteen-gallon still from England for use at Warminster. Settler purchased "muscovy sugar" (unrefined brown sugar) from the West Indies, or made their own sugar. Robert Beverley, in 1705, described some of the process which began by "wounding the trunk of the tree and placing a receiver under the wound". The sap collected was boiled, and the reduced syrup ran into molds to form cakes. Diary of Robert Rose: Jan 26 1750/1 married George Duncan and Anne Hall of Albemarle Co. at the home of William CABELL's "Warminster". Married at Ballenger's Creek was cancel due to snow. George Duncan, who probably was a kinman of Martin Duncan, an indentured servant of Cabell Martin was married to Mary, also an indentured servant of William Cabell. Snow prevented Rose's attendance at the new Ballenger's Creek Church. William Cabell was a Physician. I believe that this William maybe the brother of John and George and that William's wife names Mary maybe the Mary in John Peyton's will. Does anyone have any information about William Duncan and his wife Mary? Michèle When answering, please leave original message along with all replies to jog my memory. WW2 Warbrides Experience http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710/WarBrides.html KIDD KONNECTIONS: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710 THOMAS FAMILY GENEALOGY: http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas FLUVANNA CO., VIRGINIA HOMEPAGE: http://members.aol.com/leeintn/private/fluvanna/michele.htm Host of BRAGG, CARR, DABNEY, INGRAM and KIDD surname mailing lists. For information: http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas/maillist.html

--part1_6a.6a0e1255.25aa8b8c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Last one - same list - hope this is not redundant info for folks - I find it exciting: << The US govt has a USGS mapping information site at: http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html The questionnaire asks for basic info. I put in Mountain View Church in Haralson County, Georgia. The answer came back with coordinates for latitude and longitude (rocket science). I wrote those down and then put the same coordinates into the query screen on the mapping program. Bingo, came up with the pinpointed locations of two different churches (cemeteries) on a map that shows you where they are by the road system. It's not always that easy, but the resources are there. I know USGS has a million times more geographic info than a CD program, so with the two you have a strong chance of finding places that might not show in the CD search part. >> --part1_6a.6a0e1255.25aa8b8c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Cloversc@aol.com From: Cloversc@aol.com Full-name: Cloversc Message-ID: <14.14ebffd0.25aa2373@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:46:27 EST Subject: Fwd: [DOVER] Maps/Finding Places To: HHaden@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_6a.6a0e1255.25aa2373_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 --part2_6a.6a0e1255.25aa2373_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part2_6a.6a0e1255.25aa2373_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-za03.mx.aol.com (rly-za03.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.99]) by air-za02.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:35:49 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-za03.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:35:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04107; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:34:11 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:34:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> Old-To: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:33:16 -0800 Message-ID: <NPEHINHHFLFIMEGJPCNHMEFMCDAA.ddover1793@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Subject: [DOVER] Maps/Finding Places Resent-Message-ID: <H_Sbs.A.o_.it7d4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/3135 X-Loop: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com I haven't done the map thing in awhile but want to share some help after just checking something for someone on the list. The US govt has a USGS mapping information site at: http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html The questionnaire asks for basic info. I put in Mountain View Church in Haralson County, Georgia. The answer came back with coordinates for latitude and longitude (rocket science). I wrote those down and then put the same coordinates into the query screen on the mapping program. Bingo, came up with the pinpointed locations of two different churches (cemeteries) on a map that shows you where they are by the road system. It's not always that easy, but the resources are there. I know USGS has a million times more geographic info than a CD program, so with the two you have a strong chance of finding places that might not show in the CD search part. I don't know if the program Lou talked about has the latitude and longitude search ability. The Precision Mapping CD I have does, as does several others. I hope Bettie finds Martha Ann. She is a possible connection with Samuel G. Dover in Carroll County, Georgia. Dennis ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Please DO NOT send info on people who are still alive, such as birth dates and ect. Remember EVERY THING goes into the archives, Once there it CAN NOT be removed!! --part2_6a.6a0e1255.25aa2373_boundary-- --part1_6a.6a0e1255.25aa8b8c_boundary--

--part1_66.66e18559.25aa8b18_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From the same surname list as the info about the Walmart CD... << There "was" another CD mapping program called Precision Mapping 2.0 that showed streams and creeks along with cemeteries. It is an unbelievable help in trying to check deed descriptions. The program was updated to a newer version which dropped much of the earlier info and concentrated more on current highways, etc. I believe I found all the known creeks for the Dover families in Buncombe ... and two or three which were about a 1/2 mile from each of the others ... and possibly placed Bailey Dover (the elder), and by census the older John Dover (1820), close to Fred, John, Elijah and Jeptha (1830). >> --part1_66.66e18559.25aa8b18_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Cloversc@aol.com From: Cloversc@aol.com Full-name: Cloversc Message-ID: <c5.c59992f0.25aa231f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:45:03 EST Subject: Fwd: [DOVER] [Fwd: Cool cd at wal mart for $9.95] To: HHaden@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_66.66e18559.25aa231f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 --part2_66.66e18559.25aa231f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part2_66.66e18559.25aa231f_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.36]) by air-yh04.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 15:34:44 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 15:34:36 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18214; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:32:57 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:32:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> Old-To: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: RE: [DOVER] [Fwd: Cool cd at wal mart for $9.95] Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:32:06 -0800 Message-ID: <NPEHINHHFLFIMEGJPCNHCEFLCDAA.ddover1793@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3877A22D.2F481677@ix.netcom.com> Resent-Message-ID: <Uwvj1C.A.dcE.575d4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/3134 X-Loop: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com I haven't seen this one yet but will check it out. There "was" another CD mapping program called Precision Mapping 2.0 that showed streams and creeks along with cemeteries. It is an unbelievable help in trying to check deed descriptions. The program was updated to a newer version which dropped much of the earlier info and concentrated more on current highways, etc. I believe I found all the known creeks for the Dover families in Buncombe ... and two or three which were about a 1/2 mile from each of the others ... and possibly placed Bailey Dover (the elder), and by census the older John Dover (1820), close to Fred, John, Elijah and Jeptha (1830). Small irony here is that we have a Dover cousin (2000) who lives on a hill near Asheville overlooking these locations who is a descendant of Elijah Dover. Lindsey thinks he found the remnants of another home of Elijah's on another area of Turkey Creek. Also living in Ashville is a confirmed (my opinion) descendant of Fred & Jane Dover, born in Alabama, who told Lindsey his older family took him to this same area when he was a kid and told him their old Dover ancestors had lived there. I had already corresponded and talked to Harry Dover on the telephone ... mostly because we share close Alabama locations in the 1850's+. For us Buncombe cousins, this should be a big question. Harry and his family were not genealogists, they had their family lore. From the genealogy research, we're missing "any" Frederick Dover in 1840 Buncombe. He's back by 1850 (someone is). I suspect the 1840 Frederick Dover (& Margaret) was a neighbor to Bailey Dover in Rabun County, Georgia in 1840 who moved to Gilmer County, Georgia by 1860. ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Some of the information you see may not be verified. Remember to verify sources yourself. --part2_66.66e18559.25aa231f_boundary-- --part1_66.66e18559.25aa8b18_boundary--

--part1_95.95f3e2da.25aa8a9d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The info below was sent to me by a researcher who got it from a surname list - neither of us has checked this out but I pass it along in case it is true - >To all my fellow researchers. My brother is a truck driver. He gave me a >program today that just blew my mind. It is a travel program that he >purchased at Walmart for $9.95. It is called Travel Maps USA by Cosmi. It >shows all the cemeteries in the United States. All the County Roads. And all >the main roads. You can search by Address, City, State, County, Zip Code, >Airport, and Other Places. In Other Places you can put the name of the >Cemetery that you are trying to find and it will show you exactly where it >is. You can zoom in on the cemetery and it will show you the layout of the >cemetery. > >When you first find the cemetery it shows 2 crosses side by side. Click on >them and the cemetery layout will appear. No more asking anyone how to get >to that cemetery. You can put in your address and the address of the >cemetery and it will give you turn by turn directions to it. Let me tell you >it is a must for all of us researchers and the price is right and you can get >it at your nearby walmart. When you look for it it will be in a cd case on a >rack. It is not in a box. There are no instructions with the program. The >program has a built in help file. Take my word for it, it is a must for all >of us researchers. Please email me if you have any questions. I will be glad >to answer them. >> --part1_95.95f3e2da.25aa8a9d_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Cloversc@aol.com From: Cloversc@aol.com Full-name: Cloversc Message-ID: <1d.1d1b92a9.25aa2304@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:44:36 EST Subject: Fwd: [DOVER] [Fwd: Cool cd at wal mart for $9.95] To: HHaden@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_95.95f3e2da.25aa2304_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 --part2_95.95f3e2da.25aa2304_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part2_95.95f3e2da.25aa2304_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (rly-zb05.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.5]) by air-zb01.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:47:24 1900 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:47:04 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25603; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:46:37 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:46:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3877A22D.2F481677@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 12:46:37 -0800 From: Lou Morton Ellis <LEllis@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: "Arledge, Morton & Mary" <morton@arledge.com>, DOVER-L@rootsweb.com, MORTON-L@rootsweb.com, Cutbirth List <cutbirth@egroups.com>, "King, Elouise" <heking@gateway.net>, "Odneal, Hugh Marvin" <humaod@sockets.net>, "Trott, Bill & Barbara" <whtrott@aol.com>, Wilcoxson Family <WILCOXSON-L@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [DOVER] [Fwd: Cool cd at wal mart for $9.95] Resent-Message-ID: <tCIPyD.A.rPG.NY4d4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/3133 X-Loop: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com FROM MY LINDSEY LIST -- SOUNDS GOOD TO ME! I'LL LOOK FOR IT THE NEXT TIME I GET TO WAL MART. LOVE ON LINE (LOL), LOU -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Cool cd at wal mart for $9.95 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:10:34 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: LINDSAY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 00:05:47 -0500 From: Josephine Lindsay Bass <jbass@digital.net> Reply-To: LINDSAY-L@rootsweb.com To: LINDSAY-L@rootsweb.com i haven't tried it - but will look for the cd next time i am in wal-mart, which is not often. josie >To all my fellow researchers. My brother is a truck driver. He gave me a >program today that just blew my mind. It is a travel program that he >purchased at Walmart for $9.95. It is called Travel Maps USA by Cosmi. It >shows all the cemeteries in the United States. All the County Roads. And all >the main roads. You can search by Address, City, State, County, Zip Code, >Airport, and Other Places. In Other Places you can put the name of the >Cemetery that you are trying to find and it will show you exactly where it >is. You can zoom in on the cemetery and it will show you the layout of the >cemetery. > >When you first find the cemetery it shows 2 crosses side by side. Click on >them and the cemetery layout will appear. No more asking anyone how to get >to that cemetery. You can put in your address and the address of the >cemetery and it will give you turn by turn directions to it. Let me tell you >it is a must for all of us researchers and the price is right and you can get >it at your nearby walmart. When you look for it it will be in a cd case on a >rack. It is not in a box. There are no instructions with the program. The >program has a built in help file. Take my word for it, it is a must for all >of us researchers. Please email me if you have any questions. I will be glad >to answer them. > >Linda > jbass@digital.net 216 Beach Park Lane Cape Canaveral, FL 32920-5003 Home of The *HARRISON* Repository & *MY FAMILY* http://moon.ouhsc.edu/rbonner/harintro.htm Our Family WWW: http://moon.ouhsc.edu/rbonner/index.htm LINDSAY & HARRISON Surnames & CSA-HISTORY Roots Mail List GENCONNECT: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html Data Managed by beautiful daughter Becky Bass Bonner and me, Josephine Lindsay Bass ==== LINDSAY Mailing List ==== Search Rootsweb Archives for your Lindsay (All spellings). http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=Lindsay ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/dov/DoverWill http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/dov/DoverObits http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/dov/DoverBios http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/dov/DoverPens http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/dov/DoverDeed http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/dov/DoverBibl --part2_95.95f3e2da.25aa2304_boundary-- --part1_95.95f3e2da.25aa8a9d_boundary--

Michele, A Percy Kidd and Blanche Kidd are listed as two of the children of James Kidd and Ella G. Richardson in the Descendents of John Woodson pages under Generation 8. See http://trevilians.com/others/wood3.htm#top. Might be them but I have no other info other than having seen those names listed and can't vouch for the data. Diane Pratt Michele wrote: > Hi, > > The following KIDDS were found in the Bapt. Ch. Cem. Can anyone identify > these Kidds? > > Percy Gray Kidd > Rosa Mildred Kidd > Blanche Kidd Andrews > > Michèle

Thought I would try posting my "brick wall" and see if anyone can guide me in the right direction! Looking for the parentage of Peter Francis CLEMENTS "Frank", born 1828 in Fluvanna Co. He married there in 1849 to Martha E. BUSBY. Both Frank/Peter and Martha were living in Scottsville, Albemarle Co. in 1900, but appear to have died by 1910. This is the time period in which death certificates were not kept - correct?? Is there a cemetery in Scottsville which is recorded and accessible?? Their children were (would like to make contact with ANY descendants!) 1. William James CLEMENTS 1850-1933 m(1) Lucy McLAIN 1871 m(2) Lady Bugg BISHOP (1857-1914) 1879 2. John Richard CLEMENTS b1852 m. Elizabeth KIRBY 1879 living in 1915 in Scottsville 3. George Francis CLEMENTS b.1856 m. Susan Elizabeth FARISH 1877 living in 1900 in Scottsville 4. Charles Henry CLEMENTS b.1858 m. Sarah Elizabeth KIRBY 1880 living in 1915 in Scottsville 5. Montgomery E. CLEMENTS b.1861 m. Laura J. BROOKS 1882 living in 1915 in Scottsville 6. Robert Andrew CLEMENTS b1864 m. Sallie M. THOMAS 1892 living in 1915 in Scottsville 7. Thomas Lee CLEMENTS b.1866 m. Willie - about 1892 living in Ellicott City, Howard Co. Maryland in 1915 8. Ida Bell CLEMENTS b. 1869 - no further information 9. Willie M. CLEMENTS (f) b. 1871 - no further information Are any of these name familiar? Would like to hear from anyone with interest in these families. Thanks. Steve in Ontario, Canada

Hi, The following KIDDS were found in the Bapt. Ch. Cem. Can anyone identify these Kidds? Percy Gray Kidd Rosa Mildred Kidd Blanche Kidd Andrews Michèle When answering, please leave original message along with all replies to jog my memory. WW2 Warbrides Experience http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710/WarBrides.html KIDD KONNECTIONS: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710 THOMAS FAMILY GENEALOGY: http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas FLUVANNA CO., VIRGINIA HOMEPAGE: http://members.aol.com/leeintn/private/fluvanna/michele.htm Host of BRAGG, CARR, DABNEY, INGRAM and KIDD surname mailing lists. For information: http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas/maillist.html

The following files were uploaded to the Fluvanna Co. Archives in December. You may view these files at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/fluvanna.htm Corrections to the Will of Hugh Rice Morris, 1773 (morris2.txt), file size 1.5 kb, submitted December 1999 by Evelyn Mann Stevens Will of Hezekiah Holland, 1816 (holland1.txt), file size 7.8 kb, submitted December 1999 by Evelyn Mann Stevens Will of John Holland, 1773 (holland2.txt), file size 5.4 kb, submitted December 1999 by Evelyn Mann Stevens Will of John Melton, 1794 (melton1.txt), file size 2.8 kb, submitted December 1999 by Charlotte Cosner Will of Robert Burton Payne, 1784 (payne1.txt), file size 2.5 kb, submitted December 1999 by Charlotte Cosner Many thanks to our submitters! Won't you consider preserving & sharing your treasured documents by submitting a transcription of your own? What a wonderful way to show pride in your heritage while insuring these resources will still be around for future generations! Thank you, Jeannie Watts, archivist. ************* Jeannie Watts Now Available: "The Descendants of John Thomas Clay, Jamestown Immigrant and son of Sir John Clay of Wales" Also available: "The Descendants of James Bailey & Lucy Simms" For more info: http://www.trellis.net/users/madamx

Thanks Jane. I have a volunteer. Michèle When answering, please leave original message along with all replies to jog my memory. WW2 Warbrides Experience http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710/WarBrides.html KIDD KONNECTIONS: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710 THOMAS FAMILY GENEALOGY: http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas FLUVANNA CO., VIRGINIA HOMEPAGE: http://members.aol.com/leeintn/private/fluvanna/michele.htm Host of BRAGG, CARR, DABNEY, INGRAM and KIDD surname mailing lists. For information: http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas/maillist.html ----- Original Message ----- From: THELOMELS@aol.com To: VAFLUVAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday 4 January 2000 19:35 Subject: [VAFLUVAN] Help Wanted - 'The Bulletin' Michelle - I may be able to help you index the fall bulletin, but please, let me know exactly what is involved. And then, I will be decide if I can help. ..........Jane Lomel

Michelle - I may be able to help you index the fall bulletin, but please, let me know exactly what is involved. And then, I will be decide if I can help. ..........Jane Lomel