Regarding things about a person's family on the Inter Net------I found an up to date down to the last most recently born child in perfect genealogical order on my family by accident in Google and realized that a relative had published it to Google after getting the info from a cousin of mine. Because I had done all the work and she was taking credit for it, as well as putting it on the Web, publicly; I was a tad bit upset. People had given me info on their family that was up to date and I had assured them I would never put it on public display and there it was in living breathing black and white. Technically, it was my fault for sharing it with anyone. Once info is in print and out of your hands in today's world it is apparently fair game. It is not the amateur genealogist but only identity theives who would misuse personal info. But info on living people should be kept off the web for security reasons anyway. Once we are dead we are fair game. Nevertheless I would give my eye teeth to get into the 1940 Census data. No one on this list abuses any info. Maybe that person complaining was just crabby that day. cjs **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
Carol, I've happened on some of my research also, that gave me no credit but I am hoping that someday, somehow, someone will see it and tell me all about Grandpa's two brothers who remain elusive. Connie On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:49 PM, <Carol503@aol.com> wrote: > Regarding things about a person's family on the Inter Net------I found an > up > to date down to the last most recently born child in perfect genealogical > order on my family by accident in Google and realized that a relative had > published it to Google after getting the info from a cousin of mine. > Because I had > done all the work and she was taking credit for it, as well as putting it > on the > Web, publicly; I was a tad bit upset. People had given me info on their > family that was up to date and I had assured them I would never put it on > public > display and there it was in living breathing black and white. > Technically, it > was my fault for sharing it with anyone. Once info is in print and out of > your hands in today's world it is apparently fair game. It is not the > amateur > genealogist but only identity theives who would misuse personal info. But > info > on living people should be kept off the web for security reasons anyway. > Once we are dead we are fair game. > Nevertheless I would give my eye teeth to get into the 1940 Census > data. > No one on this list abuses any info. Maybe that person complaining was > just crabby that day. > cjs > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > ********************************** > Note from List Administrator!!! > The Second Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ********************************** > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm<http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Evafloyd/floyd.htm> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Connie and Carol, I found all my work--my entire database, with notes, posted on the Internet about 15 years ago. I know how it got there, without my permission and without crediting me, and I am no longer using that research firm. My data file has been sold and re-sold to several genealogy companies over the years, and it is now on Ancestry.com's One World Tree and Rootsweb's World Connect Project...and probably a few other places that I don't know about. The problem is that my name has not been associated with all my work...sources...notes. The contact for my data is shown as: "Anonymous." I am sure that has caused me to miss having contacts from - who knows - hundreds of cousins in the years my data has been on the Internet. And...how would you feel if someone posted a message on a genealogy list that quoted your research notes word for word? That was how I found out about my information being on the Internet. I am always happy to find new cousins to share information with, but I am not happy about this experience. Neither of the two companies mentioned above will replace "anonymous" with my name...their modus operandi is to pass the buck..."Maybe (someone else) can help you with that." Yes, I could upload my family tree to both websites and elsewhere, and it would add to the tons of duplicate information already "out there." I forget about this until someone mentions a related problem. Thanks for "listening!" Striving to keep a positive attitude...and just crabby today. Paula Kelley Ward chachalady@sbcglobal.net "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort." - Herm Albright -----Original Message----- From: vafloyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vafloyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Connie Springs Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:23 PM To: vafloyd@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAFLOYD] Finding your work on the Internet (WAS: Folks Carol, I've happened on some of my research also, that gave me no credit but I am hoping that someday, somehow, someone will see it and tell me all about Grandpa's two brothers who remain elusive. Connie On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:49 PM, <Carol503@aol.com> wrote: > Regarding things about a person's family on the Inter Net------I found an > up > to date down to the last most recently born child in perfect genealogical > order on my family by accident in Google and realized that a relative had > published it to Google after getting the info from a cousin of mine. > Because I had > done all the work and she was taking credit for it, as well as putting it > on the > Web, publicly; I was a tad bit upset. People had given me info on their > family that was up to date and I had assured them I would never put it on > public > display and there it was in living breathing black and white. > Technically, it > was my fault for sharing it with anyone. Once info is in print and out of > your hands in today's world it is apparently fair game. It is not the > amateur > genealogist but only identity theives who would misuse personal info. But > info > on living people should be kept off the web for security reasons anyway. > Once we are dead we are fair game. > Nevertheless I would give my eye teeth to get into the 1940 Census > data. > No one on this list abuses any info. Maybe that person complaining was > just crabby that day. > cjs
Subject: Re: [VAFLOYD] Finding your work on the Internet (WAS: Folks > Connie and Carol, > > I found all my work--my entire database, with notes, posted on the > Internet about 15 years ago. I know how it got there, without my > permission and without crediting me, and I am no longer using that > research firm. My data file has been sold and re-sold to several > genealogy companies over the years, and it is now on Ancestry.com's One > World Tree and Rootsweb's World Connect Project...and probably a few > other places that I don't know about. > > The problem is that my name has not been associated with all my > work...sources...notes. The contact for my data is shown as: > "Anonymous." I am sure that has caused me to miss having contacts from > - who knows - hundreds of cousins in the years my data has been on the > Internet. And...how would you feel if someone posted a message on a > genealogy list that quoted your research notes word for word? That was > how I found out about my information being on the Internet. > > I am always happy to find new cousins to share information with, but I > am not happy about this experience. Neither of the two companies > mentioned above will replace "anonymous" with my name...their modus > operandi is to pass the buck..."Maybe (someone else) can help you with > that." Yes, I could upload my family tree to both websites and > elsewhere, and it would add to the tons of duplicate information already > "out there." > > I forget about this until someone mentions a related problem. Thanks > for "listening!" > > Striving to keep a positive attitude...and just crabby today. > > Paula Kelley Ward > chachalady@sbcglobal.net > "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy > enough people to make it worth the effort." - Herm Albright > I know what you mean Paula. I usually am willing to send people what I have when they are looking for someone as I have had numberous people help me. Will this one perspm, whom I thought I was sending a ged file to of one of my lines, got it, it turned out I had sent him y entire data base on both sides of my family. Much of it undocumented and some not proven. He posted it all on World Connect. Just looked and apparently it is no longer on WoldConnect,, BUT there are other who have posted referenceing "sargentgedcom.ftw". So apparently others have copied it and posted it. One in Particular was a Story Low Sargent who I had looked for for years. My parents had told me he was buried in the Dunlap Cemetery, the town Iwas born and grew up in, but never could find a headstone. It was quite by accident that I found where his grave was, marked only by a field stone. None of the postings gave reference to my research only the GEDCOM file. It makes my blood boil whn people do that. When I get information I, when I remember to, always put the person's name and/or contact in as the source. Well that is my two cents worth. John Sowers in Lawrence, KS researching Sowers, John, Miller, Booth. Eller, Sargent and other related families. sowgenealogy@sunflower.com -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 167 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
lWell you only have about 4 yrs to go and you can access the 1940 census. that will be the first census that I should show up on. John ----- Original Message ----- From: <Carol503@aol.com> To: <vafloyd@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [VAFLOYD] Folks > Regarding things about a person's family on the Inter Net------I found an > up > to date down to the last most recently born child in perfect genealogical > order on my family by accident in Google and realized that a relative had > published it to Google after getting the info from a cousin of mine. > Because I had > done all the work and she was taking credit for it, as well as putting it > on the > Web, publicly; I was a tad bit upset. People had given me info on their > family that was up to date and I had assured them I would never put it on > public > display and there it was in living breathing black and white. > Technically, it > was my fault for sharing it with anyone. Once info is in print and out of > your hands in today's world it is apparently fair game. It is not the > amateur > genealogist but only identity theives who would misuse personal info. But > info > on living people should be kept off the web for security reasons anyway. > Once we are dead we are fair game. > Nevertheless I would give my eye teeth to get into the 1940 Census > data. > No one on this list abuses any info. Maybe that person complaining was > just crabby that day. > cjs > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > ********************************** > Note from List Administrator!!! > The Second Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ********************************** > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1316 - Release Date: 3/6/2008 > 6:58 PM > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 158 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len