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    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Point Lookout Prison
    2. Carolyn Bruce
    3. Hi, Linda, In my database I have listed a Creed HALE, son of Jeremiah Pickett HALE and Nancy Jane WADE. Same guy? If so, we're probably cousins. Carolyn HALE BRUCE Virginia Beach, VA bhaney wrote: > My great-great-great-uncle, Creed Hale, was imprisoned > there. I have never visited there but possiblly one day I > will. I have visited Fort McHenry in Maryland where one of > my ancestors was held as a prisoner of war before being sent > to Elmira Prison in NY during the Civil War. > > Linda >

    06/16/2010 06:48:21
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers&AllenEdward Mann
    2. Phoebe Poff
    3. I remember all that happening too John. We only lived two blocks away on First Avenue. Remember driving by the corner of Tyler and Fairfax Sts and observing that same scene. Phoebe -----Original Message----- >From: John Ford <johnlford@embarqmail.com> >Sent: Jun 15, 2010 5:59 PM >To: vafloyd@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers&AllenEdward Mann > > > >> John - thanks for the information! That is so sad about the 2 families >> that >> the husband killed them. Especially when the children are killed or seen >> it. >> That is so sad. >> >> Sharon >> > >Sharon: I remember the killings like it was yesterday. My step-dad and I >were headed up toward Bethel in his old '38 Chevy and we heard the news on >the radio that Joe Howell had killed his family. We turned around and drove >the 3 or so miles to their house. When we got there there were police cars >every where and bloody mattresses in the yard. Still hard to comprehend. >Joe hadn't been back from the war that long, people said he was >"Shell-shocked" and he was sure he was about to loose his job, so he took >that way out. > >I had been in their house before and Joe was a really nice person. > >The Guy Mills thing is a little different - Loma Fay was messing around and >Guy found out about it, so he killed her, and then shot himself. > >I was born and raised about a mile from the Wurzburgers. > >John in Ohio > > > To contact Listowner: >Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com >View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message bye

    06/15/2010 04:05:18
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers &AllenEdward Mann
    2. Jeanne Mower
    3. Thank You, Clarence, that was very helpful! Jeanne On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Clarence Sanderson < crsanderson@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Noah akers 1872 floyd d 8 may 1931 married rowena hylton 15 mar 1893 floyd > co vfa > children hattie annabelle akers 25 may 1904 elgood mercer co wv d 5 Nov > 1980 athens mercer co wv > married homer franklin harvey 13 jul 1897 d 6 mar 1966 6 children > major lawrence akers 3 jan 1910 elgood mercer co wv d 27 aug 2009 richmond > va married maggie meadows > dau anna sylvadeam akers m john s hurst III > > > > nothing on the others > Clarence > > > ________________________________ > From: Jeanne Mower <geniebug@kuragari.com> > To: vafloyd@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 5:01:24 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers > &AllenEdward Mann > > I have a few Akers who married into my Weddle and Hylton families, and I > don't know anything else about them. If someone could help me with dates > and parents I would be grateful. > J.M. Akers b abt 1844 marr Cornelia Jane Weddle > Noah Akers b abt 1872 marr Rowena Hylton > Sarah M Akers b _____ marr Madison B Hylton > Pamela Howard Akers b ______marr John Weddle > > Thank You, Jeanne > > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Ford <johnlford@embarqmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Sharon: > > > > As you wish: > > > > Charles Cleveland Wurzburger, born 4 Sept. 1884, Miller, Mo. married > Josie > > C. Akers, born 24 Mar 1897, died 22 June 1974 in Radford, Va. Charles > > (Charlie) died 31 May 1966. They are both buried at Westview Cemetery in > > Radford. > > > > Charlie was the son of Adolph and Amanda Jane Fetters Wurzburger. Adolph > > was born in Baden Baden, Germany. They had one other son, Lawrence > (Lars) > > Grover Wurzburger. Adolph and Amanda are buried at Big Sand Cemetery, > > Floyd > > County, Va. > > > > Old man Charlie was a blacksmith, among other things. As he told it, if > > you > > would add up all his work experience, he would have been 300 years old. > > Yes, I knew Charlie and Josie. I knew them very well. My first job was > > helping Charlie in his blacksmith shop. > > > > Charlie and Josie had 6 children: > > 1. Charles Wilson Wurzburger Sr., born 4 Jan 1924, dies 7 Oct 1992. He > > married Mary Lou (Sue) Ford, my niece. She was born 19 Feb 1929 and died > > 22 > > Dec 1978. They are buried in Westview Cemetery in Radford. They had 3 > > sons, > > 2 of which are still alive. Gil died recently. He lived on the > > Montgomery/Floyd County line. > > > > 2. Ruby Wurzburger married Alfred Duncan > > > > 3 Evelyn Wurzburger married Edward (Eddie) Small. They had children. > > > > 4. Rosie Wurzburger married Jack Smith. > > > > 5. Lucille Wurzburger, born 19 July 1926 married Joe Howell. They had 2 > > daughters, Dottie Jo born 16 June 1947 and Judy born 16 Feb 1953. On 18 > > May > > 1954 Joe Howell murdered Lucille, Dottie Jo and Judy, then killed > himself. > > They are all buried at Westview Cemetery in Radford. > > > > 6. Loma Fay Wurzburger born 1931 married Guy Mills. They had one > daughter > > (still alive). Guy murdered Loma Fay then killed himself (in 1954). The > > daughter apparently witnessed the shootings. Charlie and Josie raised > the > > girl after that. > > > > Much of this information is first-hand, and some from my grand nephew - a > > grandson of Charlie and Josie. > > > > I have newspaper clippings for the murders. I also came across a clipping > > of > > a soldier's letter from Howard Akers to his sister Josie. > > > > My mother was a MANN, but from the southwest Virginia clan. > > > > John > > > > > Yes I would love it! All I have is: > > >> Sharon: > > >> > > >> I have a good deal of information on Charles & Josie Akers Wurzburger, > > if > > >> you would like it. > > >> > > >> John in Ohio > > > > > > > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/15/2010 03:11:10
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Point Lookout Prison
    2. Burdine Dickerson was a prisoner of war at Johnson's Island Prison. Fortunately he lived to come home to Floyd. Kasia

    06/15/2010 12:24:16
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Point Lookout Prison
    2. John Ford
    3. Kat: We have a "Confederate" prison up on Lake Erie - Johnson's Island - that was used to house mostly Confederate officers. Most were starved to death but a couple managed to escape when the lake froze over. The cemetery is preserved and fenced, but a lot of the stones really don't tell who is buried there. The old buildings are long gone, but the grounds are being maintained. If anyone had a relative that served time on Johnson's Island, I would be happy to try to find them next trip up. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kat Fulcher" <kfulcher55@gmail.com> To: <vafloyd@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [VAFLOYD] Point Lookout Prison >I had looked at this site a year or so ago when I discovered my husband had > an ancestor buried there, but now that I know there are at least TWO > ancestors with connections there, I'd really like to see the place! > >>From all I read, this was one of THE worst Northern prison camps. Sadly, > poor old Alexander Maness (the relative that died there) wasn't really > even > a soldier! He was a company chaplin, having served for years in the SW > Virginia area as a Methodist circuit riding preacher. He wasn't even in > the > war to hurt anyone, but rather to give comfort...and it cost him his life! > Sad... > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Jeanne Mower <geniebug@kuragari.com> > wrote: > >> Very very interesting site, Kat, thank you for the link! >> >> Jeanne >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, William Hurst <wrhurst_17@msn.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > A first cousin, twice removed, of mine, Elizabeth Ann Southern Shelor >> > of >> > Wythe County, whose mother was Nancy Hurst Southern, married a man >> variously >> > known as Indiandozier Bogenshield Shelor or John B. Shelor. Known as >> Dozier, >> > in the 50th VA, he was captured during the CW, sent first to Point >> Lookout, >> > then on to the Elmira prison camp. He died there in 1865. His widow in >> her >> > pension application years later still wasn't happy, claiming he was >> starved, >> > as I remember. She is buried in the Meadows of Dan Baptist Church >> Cemetery. >> > Dozier is buried in the Woodlawn National Cemetery in Elmira. A >> > cemetery >> > official was kind enough to send me a photo of his gravestone a few >> > years >> > ago. >> > >> > My great granduncle Samuel Vincent Wheeler, along with most of the 51st >> VA, >> > was captured and sent to Fort Delaware near the end of the War. I've >> heard >> > they were sent first to Point Lookout. (My great grandfather William >> Raleigh >> > Wheeler managed not to get captured.) The fact that my father lived for >> > a >> > while with his uncle Samuel, a CW vet, makes me feel old. Not as old as >> Ole >> > Paul, of course. >> > >> > I've been to Point Lookout, but years ago. Also Fort Delaware, which is >> > much more interesting to visit. >> > >> > Bill Hurst >> > >> > > It is said that in the yankee prison camps that the southern soldiers >> > > were starving...at one camp, maybe Elmira, NY...the townsfolk would >> > > bring their sunday picnic lunches out on a hillside overlooking the >> > > camp, and would toss chicken bones and apple cores across rhe fence >> > > and >> > > laugh to see the prisoners scrambling to get them to eat....also, >> > > some >> > > of the northern guards were black, and they showed no mercy to the >> > > Rebels...Paul >> > > >> > > keep the mail comin' to Ole Paul >> > >> > To contact Listowner: >> > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com >> > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> To contact Listowner: >> Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com >> View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/15/2010 12:05:16
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers&AllenEdward Mann
    2. John Ford
    3. > John - thanks for the information! That is so sad about the 2 families > that > the husband killed them. Especially when the children are killed or seen > it. > That is so sad. > > Sharon > Sharon: I remember the killings like it was yesterday. My step-dad and I were headed up toward Bethel in his old '38 Chevy and we heard the news on the radio that Joe Howell had killed his family. We turned around and drove the 3 or so miles to their house. When we got there there were police cars every where and bloody mattresses in the yard. Still hard to comprehend. Joe hadn't been back from the war that long, people said he was "Shell-shocked" and he was sure he was about to loose his job, so he took that way out. I had been in their house before and Joe was a really nice person. The Guy Mills thing is a little different - Loma Fay was messing around and Guy found out about it, so he killed her, and then shot himself. I was born and raised about a mile from the Wurzburgers. John in Ohio

    06/15/2010 11:59:40
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Wurzburgers
    2. John Ford
    3. Paul: Jim died in 1996 but Pearl made it to 2007. She was 92. About 2 months before she died we stopped in to see her. She insisted we go with her to the Senior Center in Radford as her guest for lunch. We did and I'm so glad. Pearl was my mother's sister. Mother was born in 1905 and Pearl 1915. The were both beautiful red heads. I liked red heads so much I married one. After 52 years, it's hardly red. I believe it's Clairol #6. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul" <pogoat2@webtv.net> To: <vafloyd@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [VAFLOYD] Wurzburgers > Yes...I remember Jim and Pearl..she was red headed ... I lived one > street down from Clement..I was on Downey St. > > keep the mail comin' to Ole Paul > > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/15/2010 11:50:29
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Point Lookout Prison
    2. Kat Fulcher
    3. I had looked at this site a year or so ago when I discovered my husband had an ancestor buried there, but now that I know there are at least TWO ancestors with connections there, I'd really like to see the place! >From all I read, this was one of THE worst Northern prison camps. Sadly, poor old Alexander Maness (the relative that died there) wasn't really even a soldier! He was a company chaplin, having served for years in the SW Virginia area as a Methodist circuit riding preacher. He wasn't even in the war to hurt anyone, but rather to give comfort...and it cost him his life! Sad... On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Jeanne Mower <geniebug@kuragari.com> wrote: > Very very interesting site, Kat, thank you for the link! > > Jeanne > > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, William Hurst <wrhurst_17@msn.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > A first cousin, twice removed, of mine, Elizabeth Ann Southern Shelor of > > Wythe County, whose mother was Nancy Hurst Southern, married a man > variously > > known as Indiandozier Bogenshield Shelor or John B. Shelor. Known as > Dozier, > > in the 50th VA, he was captured during the CW, sent first to Point > Lookout, > > then on to the Elmira prison camp. He died there in 1865. His widow in > her > > pension application years later still wasn't happy, claiming he was > starved, > > as I remember. She is buried in the Meadows of Dan Baptist Church > Cemetery. > > Dozier is buried in the Woodlawn National Cemetery in Elmira. A cemetery > > official was kind enough to send me a photo of his gravestone a few years > > ago. > > > > My great granduncle Samuel Vincent Wheeler, along with most of the 51st > VA, > > was captured and sent to Fort Delaware near the end of the War. I've > heard > > they were sent first to Point Lookout. (My great grandfather William > Raleigh > > Wheeler managed not to get captured.) The fact that my father lived for a > > while with his uncle Samuel, a CW vet, makes me feel old. Not as old as > Ole > > Paul, of course. > > > > I've been to Point Lookout, but years ago. Also Fort Delaware, which is > > much more interesting to visit. > > > > Bill Hurst > > > > > It is said that in the yankee prison camps that the southern soldiers > > > were starving...at one camp, maybe Elmira, NY...the townsfolk would > > > bring their sunday picnic lunches out on a hillside overlooking the > > > camp, and would toss chicken bones and apple cores across rhe fence and > > > laugh to see the prisoners scrambling to get them to eat....also, some > > > of the northern guards were black, and they showed no mercy to the > > > Rebels...Paul > > > > > > keep the mail comin' to Ole Paul > > > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/15/2010 11:48:53
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Wurzburgers
    2. paul
    3. Yes...I remember Jim and Pearl..she was red headed ... I lived one street down from Clement..I was on Downey St. keep the mail comin' to Ole Paul

    06/15/2010 11:43:00
    1. [VAFLOYD] Wurzburgers
    2. John Ford
    3. > John...I worked with a Wurzburger lady in Radford at Burlington > Mills...she lived on Rock Road in a small home on a knoll very close to > the road...she was a weaver at the Mill.....was she Josie? > Paul > Paul: Probably was. Josie worked every day, and I think she worked at the mill. Jocie was a short woman with a chunky build. Very nice lady. They lived on old route 11 (Old Highway) about 1/2 mile from Huttontown, just up the road from the gypsy camp. The first house (frame house) was Joe and Lucille Howell's house. Directly behind them was a very small cabin-type house. I kind of remember part of it being log. Everything in the house was built low since both of them were short. Further back and up on the side of the hill was his blacksmith shop. When did you work at Burlington? I had an aunt and uncle retire from there - Jim & Pearl Whitt. They lived directly behind the mill on Clement Street. My (foster) brother also worked there for years. He was Buddy Ford. John

    06/15/2010 11:35:51
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers &AllenEdward Mann
    2. Clarence Sanderson
    3. Noah akers 1872 floyd d 8 may 1931 married rowena hylton 15 mar 1893 floyd co vfa children hattie annabelle akers 25 may 1904 elgood mercer co wv d 5 Nov 1980 athens mercer co wv married homer franklin harvey 13 jul 1897 d 6 mar 1966 6 children  major lawrence akers 3 jan 1910 elgood mercer co wv d 27 aug 2009 richmond va married maggie meadows dau anna sylvadeam akers m john s hurst III   nothing on the others Clarence ________________________________ From: Jeanne Mower <geniebug@kuragari.com> To: vafloyd@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 5:01:24 PM Subject: Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers &AllenEdward Mann I have a few Akers who married into my Weddle and Hylton families, and I don't know anything else about them.  If someone could help me with dates and parents I would be grateful. J.M. Akers b abt 1844 marr Cornelia Jane Weddle Noah Akers b abt 1872 marr Rowena Hylton Sarah M Akers b _____ marr Madison B Hylton Pamela Howard Akers b ______marr John Weddle Thank You, Jeanne On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Ford <johnlford@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > Sharon: > > As you wish: > > Charles Cleveland Wurzburger, born 4 Sept. 1884, Miller, Mo.  married Josie > C. Akers, born 24 Mar 1897, died 22 June 1974 in Radford, Va.  Charles > (Charlie) died 31 May 1966.  They are both buried at Westview Cemetery in > Radford. > > Charlie was the son of Adolph and Amanda Jane Fetters Wurzburger.  Adolph > was born in Baden Baden, Germany.  They had one other son, Lawrence (Lars) > Grover Wurzburger.  Adolph and Amanda are buried at Big Sand Cemetery, > Floyd > County, Va. > > Old man Charlie was a blacksmith, among other things.  As he told it, if > you > would add up all his work experience, he would have been 300 years old. > Yes, I knew Charlie and Josie.  I knew them very well.  My first job was > helping Charlie in his blacksmith shop. > > Charlie and Josie had 6 children: > 1.  Charles Wilson Wurzburger Sr., born 4 Jan 1924, dies 7 Oct 1992.  He > married Mary Lou (Sue) Ford, my niece.  She was born 19 Feb 1929 and died > 22 > Dec 1978.  They are buried in Westview Cemetery in Radford. They had 3 > sons, > 2 of which are still alive.  Gil died recently.  He lived on the > Montgomery/Floyd County line. > > 2. Ruby Wurzburger married Alfred Duncan > > 3 Evelyn Wurzburger married Edward (Eddie) Small.  They had children. > > 4. Rosie Wurzburger married Jack Smith. > > 5. Lucille Wurzburger, born 19 July 1926 married Joe Howell.  They had 2 > daughters, Dottie Jo born 16 June 1947 and Judy born 16 Feb 1953.  On 18 > May > 1954 Joe Howell murdered Lucille, Dottie Jo and Judy, then killed himself. > They are all buried at Westview Cemetery in Radford. > > 6. Loma Fay Wurzburger born 1931 married Guy Mills.  They had one daughter > (still alive).  Guy murdered Loma Fay then killed himself (in 1954).  The > daughter apparently witnessed the shootings.  Charlie and Josie raised the > girl after that. > > Much of this information is first-hand, and some from my grand nephew - a > grandson of Charlie and Josie. > > I have newspaper clippings for the murders. I also came across a clipping > of > a soldier's letter from Howard Akers to his sister Josie. > > My mother was a MANN, but from the southwest Virginia clan. > > John > > > Yes I would love it!  All I have is: > >> Sharon: > >> > >> I have a good deal of information on Charles & Josie Akers Wurzburger, > if > >> you would like it. > >> > >> John in Ohio > > > >  To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/15/2010 11:19:55
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers &AllenEdward Mann
    2. paul
    3. John...I worked with a Wurzburger lady in Radford at Burlington Mills...she lived on Rock Road in a small home on a knoll very close to the road...she was a weaver at the Mill.....was she Josie? Paul keep the mail comin' to Ole Paul

    06/15/2010 10:55:20
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Point Lookout Prison
    2. William Hurst
    3. Hi all, A first cousin, twice removed, of mine, Elizabeth Ann Southern Shelor of Wythe County, whose mother was Nancy Hurst Southern, married a man variously known as Indiandozier Bogenshield Shelor or John B. Shelor. Known as Dozier, in the 50th VA, he was captured during the CW, sent first to Point Lookout, then on to the Elmira prison camp. He died there in 1865. His widow in her pension application years later still wasn't happy, claiming he was starved, as I remember. She is buried in the Meadows of Dan Baptist Church Cemetery. Dozier is buried in the Woodlawn National Cemetery in Elmira. A cemetery official was kind enough to send me a photo of his gravestone a few years ago. My great granduncle Samuel Vincent Wheeler, along with most of the 51st VA, was captured and sent to Fort Delaware near the end of the War. I've heard they were sent first to Point Lookout. (My great grandfather William Raleigh Wheeler managed not to get captured.) The fact that my father lived for a while with his uncle Samuel, a CW vet, makes me feel old. Not as old as Ole Paul, of course. I've been to Point Lookout, but years ago. Also Fort Delaware, which is much more interesting to visit. Bill Hurst > It is said that in the yankee prison camps that the southern soldiers > were starving...at one camp, maybe Elmira, NY...the townsfolk would > bring their sunday picnic lunches out on a hillside overlooking the > camp, and would toss chicken bones and apple cores across rhe fence and > laugh to see the prisoners scrambling to get them to eat....also, some > of the northern guards were black, and they showed no mercy to the > Rebels...Paul > > keep the mail comin' to Ole Paul

    06/15/2010 10:47:37
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers &AllenEdward Mann
    2. Sharon Minton Hill
    3. John - thanks for the information! That is so sad about the 2 families that the husband killed them. Especially when the children are killed or seen it. That is so sad. Sharon On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:31 PM, John Ford <johnlford@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > Sharon: > > As you wish: > > Charles Cleveland Wurzburger, born 4 Sept. 1884, Miller, Mo. married Josie > C. Akers, born 24 Mar 1897, died 22 June 1974 in Radford, Va. Charles > (Charlie) died 31 May 1966. They are both buried at Westview Cemetery in > Radford. > > Charlie was the son of Adolph and Amanda Jane Fetters Wurzburger. Adolph > was born in Baden Baden, Germany. They had one other son, Lawrence (Lars) > Grover Wurzburger. Adolph and Amanda are buried at Big Sand Cemetery, > Floyd > County, Va. > > Old man Charlie was a blacksmith, among other things. As he told it, if > you > > would add up all his work experience, he would have been 300 years old. > Yes, I knew Charlie and Josie. I knew them very well. My first job was > helping Charlie in his blacksmith shop. > > Charlie and Josie had 6 children: > 1. Charles Wilson Wurzburger Sr., born 4 Jan 1924, dies 7 Oct 1992. He > married Mary Lou (Sue) Ford, my niece. She was born 19 Feb 1929 and died > 22 > Dec 1978. They are buried in Westview Cemetery in Radford. They had 3 > sons, > 2 of which are still alive. Gil died recently. He lived on the > Montgomery/Floyd County line. > > 2. Ruby Wurzburger married Alfred Duncan > > 3 Evelyn Wurzburger married Edward (Eddie) Small. They had children. > > 4. Rosie Wurzburger married Jack Smith. > > 5. Lucille Wurzburger, born 19 July 1926 married Joe Howell. They had 2 > daughters, Dottie Jo born 16 June 1947 and Judy born 16 Feb 1953. On 18 > May > 1954 Joe Howell murdered Lucille, Dottie Jo and Judy, then killed himself. > They are all buried at Westview Cemetery in Radford. > > 6. Loma Fay Wurzburger born 1931 married Guy Mills. They had one daughter > (still alive). Guy murdered Loma Fay then killed himself (in 1954). The > daughter apparently witnessed the shootings. Charlie and Josie raised the > girl after that. > > Much of this information is first-hand, and some from my grand nephew - a > grandson of Charlie and Josie. > > I have newspaper clippings for the murders. I also came across a clipping > of > a soldier's letter from Howard Akers to his sister Josie. > > My mother was a MANN, but from the southwest Virginia clan. > > John > > > Yes I would love it! All I have is: > >> Sharon: > >> > >> I have a good deal of information on Charles & Josie Akers Wurzburger, > if > >> you would like it. > >> > >> John in Ohio > > > > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/15/2010 10:42:26
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers &AllenEdward Mann
    2. John Ford
    3. Sharon: As you wish: Charles Cleveland Wurzburger, born 4 Sept. 1884, Miller, Mo. married Josie C. Akers, born 24 Mar 1897, died 22 June 1974 in Radford, Va. Charles (Charlie) died 31 May 1966. They are both buried at Westview Cemetery in Radford. Charlie was the son of Adolph and Amanda Jane Fetters Wurzburger. Adolph was born in Baden Baden, Germany. They had one other son, Lawrence (Lars) Grover Wurzburger. Adolph and Amanda are buried at Big Sand Cemetery, Floyd County, Va. Old man Charlie was a blacksmith, among other things. As he told it, if you would add up all his work experience, he would have been 300 years old. Yes, I knew Charlie and Josie. I knew them very well. My first job was helping Charlie in his blacksmith shop. Charlie and Josie had 6 children: 1. Charles Wilson Wurzburger Sr., born 4 Jan 1924, dies 7 Oct 1992. He married Mary Lou (Sue) Ford, my niece. She was born 19 Feb 1929 and died 22 Dec 1978. They are buried in Westview Cemetery in Radford. They had 3 sons, 2 of which are still alive. Gil died recently. He lived on the Montgomery/Floyd County line. 2. Ruby Wurzburger married Alfred Duncan 3 Evelyn Wurzburger married Edward (Eddie) Small. They had children. 4. Rosie Wurzburger married Jack Smith. 5. Lucille Wurzburger, born 19 July 1926 married Joe Howell. They had 2 daughters, Dottie Jo born 16 June 1947 and Judy born 16 Feb 1953. On 18 May 1954 Joe Howell murdered Lucille, Dottie Jo and Judy, then killed himself. They are all buried at Westview Cemetery in Radford. 6. Loma Fay Wurzburger born 1931 married Guy Mills. They had one daughter (still alive). Guy murdered Loma Fay then killed himself (in 1954). The daughter apparently witnessed the shootings. Charlie and Josie raised the girl after that. Much of this information is first-hand, and some from my grand nephew - a grandson of Charlie and Josie. I have newspaper clippings for the murders. I also came across a clipping of a soldier's letter from Howard Akers to his sister Josie. My mother was a MANN, but from the southwest Virginia clan. John > Yes I would love it! All I have is: >> Sharon: >> >> I have a good deal of information on Charles & Josie Akers Wurzburger, if >> you would like it. >> >> John in Ohio

    06/15/2010 10:31:30
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Point Lookout Prison
    2. lois vick
    3. Thank you, Kat. This has so much information. My ancestors were in the war but they were prisoners in other states. Some kept fighting while wounded. I know of one that died in prison. Lois

    06/15/2010 10:09:38
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Point Lookout Prison
    2. Jeanne Mower
    3. Very very interesting site, Kat, thank you for the link! Jeanne On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, William Hurst <wrhurst_17@msn.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > A first cousin, twice removed, of mine, Elizabeth Ann Southern Shelor of > Wythe County, whose mother was Nancy Hurst Southern, married a man variously > known as Indiandozier Bogenshield Shelor or John B. Shelor. Known as Dozier, > in the 50th VA, he was captured during the CW, sent first to Point Lookout, > then on to the Elmira prison camp. He died there in 1865. His widow in her > pension application years later still wasn't happy, claiming he was starved, > as I remember. She is buried in the Meadows of Dan Baptist Church Cemetery. > Dozier is buried in the Woodlawn National Cemetery in Elmira. A cemetery > official was kind enough to send me a photo of his gravestone a few years > ago. > > My great granduncle Samuel Vincent Wheeler, along with most of the 51st VA, > was captured and sent to Fort Delaware near the end of the War. I've heard > they were sent first to Point Lookout. (My great grandfather William Raleigh > Wheeler managed not to get captured.) The fact that my father lived for a > while with his uncle Samuel, a CW vet, makes me feel old. Not as old as Ole > Paul, of course. > > I've been to Point Lookout, but years ago. Also Fort Delaware, which is > much more interesting to visit. > > Bill Hurst > > > It is said that in the yankee prison camps that the southern soldiers > > were starving...at one camp, maybe Elmira, NY...the townsfolk would > > bring their sunday picnic lunches out on a hillside overlooking the > > camp, and would toss chicken bones and apple cores across rhe fence and > > laugh to see the prisoners scrambling to get them to eat....also, some > > of the northern guards were black, and they showed no mercy to the > > Rebels...Paul > > > > keep the mail comin' to Ole Paul > > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/15/2010 09:41:15
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Point Lookout Prison
    2. paul
    3. It is said that in the yankee prison camps that the southern soldiers were starving...at one camp, maybe Elmira, NY...the townsfolk would bring their sunday picnic lunches out on a hillside overlooking the camp, and would toss chicken bones and apple cores across rhe fence and laugh to see the prisoners scrambling to get them to eat....also, some of the northern guards were black, and they showed no mercy to the Rebels...Paul keep the mail comin' to Ole Paul

    06/15/2010 09:37:12
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Alice Lorena Bishop & Granville Hosea Akers &AllenEdward Mann
    2. Jeanne Mower
    3. I have a few Akers who married into my Weddle and Hylton families, and I don't know anything else about them. If someone could help me with dates and parents I would be grateful. J.M. Akers b abt 1844 marr Cornelia Jane Weddle Noah Akers b abt 1872 marr Rowena Hylton Sarah M Akers b _____ marr Madison B Hylton Pamela Howard Akers b ______marr John Weddle Thank You, Jeanne On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Ford <johnlford@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > Sharon: > > As you wish: > > Charles Cleveland Wurzburger, born 4 Sept. 1884, Miller, Mo. married Josie > C. Akers, born 24 Mar 1897, died 22 June 1974 in Radford, Va. Charles > (Charlie) died 31 May 1966. They are both buried at Westview Cemetery in > Radford. > > Charlie was the son of Adolph and Amanda Jane Fetters Wurzburger. Adolph > was born in Baden Baden, Germany. They had one other son, Lawrence (Lars) > Grover Wurzburger. Adolph and Amanda are buried at Big Sand Cemetery, > Floyd > County, Va. > > Old man Charlie was a blacksmith, among other things. As he told it, if > you > would add up all his work experience, he would have been 300 years old. > Yes, I knew Charlie and Josie. I knew them very well. My first job was > helping Charlie in his blacksmith shop. > > Charlie and Josie had 6 children: > 1. Charles Wilson Wurzburger Sr., born 4 Jan 1924, dies 7 Oct 1992. He > married Mary Lou (Sue) Ford, my niece. She was born 19 Feb 1929 and died > 22 > Dec 1978. They are buried in Westview Cemetery in Radford. They had 3 > sons, > 2 of which are still alive. Gil died recently. He lived on the > Montgomery/Floyd County line. > > 2. Ruby Wurzburger married Alfred Duncan > > 3 Evelyn Wurzburger married Edward (Eddie) Small. They had children. > > 4. Rosie Wurzburger married Jack Smith. > > 5. Lucille Wurzburger, born 19 July 1926 married Joe Howell. They had 2 > daughters, Dottie Jo born 16 June 1947 and Judy born 16 Feb 1953. On 18 > May > 1954 Joe Howell murdered Lucille, Dottie Jo and Judy, then killed himself. > They are all buried at Westview Cemetery in Radford. > > 6. Loma Fay Wurzburger born 1931 married Guy Mills. They had one daughter > (still alive). Guy murdered Loma Fay then killed himself (in 1954). The > daughter apparently witnessed the shootings. Charlie and Josie raised the > girl after that. > > Much of this information is first-hand, and some from my grand nephew - a > grandson of Charlie and Josie. > > I have newspaper clippings for the murders. I also came across a clipping > of > a soldier's letter from Howard Akers to his sister Josie. > > My mother was a MANN, but from the southwest Virginia clan. > > John > > > Yes I would love it! All I have is: > >> Sharon: > >> > >> I have a good deal of information on Charles & Josie Akers Wurzburger, > if > >> you would like it. > >> > >> John in Ohio > > > > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > View the Floyd County Virginia Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafloyd/floyd.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFLOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/15/2010 09:01:24
    1. Re: [VAFLOYD] Point Lookout Prison
    2. lois vick
    3. Kat, do you have a list of those prisoners? Lois

    06/15/2010 07:35:55