Jim I do not know. It looks to me that he was there when the will was proved. To be sure you should ask some one in the court house or someone on the list may know. thanks Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: geo_jwt@unxmail.shsu.edu [mailto:geo_jwt@unxmail.shsu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:13 PM To: Jim Burgess Subject: RE: Tiller We Texans are kind of slow. I understand written, I do not understand proved. What I am trying to establish is for which (or both) dates did Tiller the witness have to be present in Fauquier. I assume the April date for sure as this would be when he signed it as a witness. Does proved mean that a court accepts the will as valid, and if so, are the witnesses required to be present? I know you are very busy this evening so just when ever you can get around to me. JIm Tiller > First is Will Written > Second is Will Proved > > -----Original Message----- > From: geo_jwt@unxmail.shsu.edu [mailto:geo_jwt@unxmail.shsu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:34 PM > To: Jim Burgess > Subject: Re: Tiller > > > Outstanding!!! > > One further question -- what are the > TWO dates April and September? Is the > first one when it was signed and the > second when it was filed?? > > Jim Tiller > > > > Abstracts of Fauquier County, > Virginia > > Wills Inventories & Inventories > > 1800-1865 > > One entry > > Hindall, John Sr--Will-- 18 Apr > 1829, 28 Sep 1829, daughters: Mary, > > Margaret, Susan Hindall, Elizabeth > McLearen & Nancy McLearen, to received > > $60 in cash, Daughter: Sarah to > receive $100, life stock & household > items, > > Son: Robert B. Hindall to receive > $20 & household items., Son: John H. > > Hindall Jr. to receive $60, son Wm > Hindall to receive $40, rest of the > > estate to be used to pay debt in > control of daughter Sarah, any monies > left > > over she is to divied with her other > siblings, Exrs: listed as my friend > > name not given. Witness: Benjamin > Tiller, Aldridge James, & John Dodd, > > Book 11, page 58. > > > > Fauquier County, Virginia Marriage > Bonds 1759-1854 John K. Gott > > French, Burgess & Priscilla Tiller > April 27, 1807 bonds Wm Taylor > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: geo_jwt@unxmail.shsu.edu > [mailto:geo_jwt@unxmail.shsu.edu] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 > 4:45 PM > > To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: {not a subscriber} Benjamin > Tiller > > > > > > Hopefully someone can help me out. > > > > The ONLY thing I know for sure about > > Benjamin Tiller RE Fauquier County is > > that when he purchased land in > Indiana > > in the late 1820s (1829 I believe it > > was), he noted that he was a resident > > of Gallatin County, KY and "of > > Fauquier Co, VA”. > > > > The next year (1830) I find a > citation > > in a Gallatin Co deed book where he > > has been granted the license to > preach > > and do other reverendly duties of the > > Methodist Episcopal Church, and in > the > > citation it notes that he is in > > contact the the "Church." Now my > > initial assumption was that he was a > > reverend in Fauquier since he had > most > > likely only recently moved to KY. I > > since have been in contact with the > > Church and I am told it is possible > > that what I have is his INITIAL > > application to become a preacher -- > > this is seemingly based on his having > > to put up a security bond as a part > of > > the licensing process. > > > > He is most likely married in the very > > early 1820s to a Mary (a real > uncommon > > name, I know) -- middle initial is M > > (may be another given name or maybe a > > maiden name). He has at least one > > child born in VA (not known where) -- > > her name is Mary Ann, and she is born > > in 1826 according to the 1850 and > 1860 > > and 1870 census. > > > > He has a about 5 brothers and 3 > > sisters and to this point (all that > we > > know about) ALL of the brothers and > > one of the sisters are literate -- in > > fact they ALL have beautiful > > handwriting -- even the female. NONE > > of them that we can tell are farmers. > > Businessmen and craftsmen (carpenters > > and plasterers. I realize there are a > > number of George's about in that part > > of the country, but there do not seem > > to be a lot of Benjamin's. The family > > does seem to be slave owners (but not > > Benjamin). There are court cases > > involving the sale of slaves that > were > > brought from VA. > > > > The whole family (the balance of it) > > live in extreme northern Caroline > > County where the county line contacts > > the Rappahannock. There is one > brother > > who we KNOW was born in Culpeper Co > in > > 1813, and we know the father dies in > > 1831 in Caroline Co at Mt. Zion (the > > far northern Caroline county > > location) "surrounded by relatives > and > > friends" -- taken from the Virginia > > Herald, May 21, 1831. This would seem > > to indicate that the center of the > > larger family is in Caroline at the > > Spotsylvania/Rappahannock. Just does > > not seem possible that someone who > was > > born in about 1802, married, with > > kids, and KNOWN to be in Fauquier Co > > (by his own admission) can not be > > SOMEWHERE. A landowner, most likely > > not, but surely he should have been > > paying taxes. At least ONE of the > > sisters, Martha (Patsy, born in later > > 1790s) marries a James Carter James > of > > Fauquier and lives in Harmony Grove, > > Fauquier Co. > > > > Non-family names that appear related > > (but not necessarily of Fauquier) > > are: Edward Stevens, John Terrell, > > George Ross, Enoch Tennison, William > > Yates (minor). > > > > Jim Tiller > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- ----- > ----------- > > Sam Houston State University > > where Education is up Close and > Personal > > http://www.shsu.edu > > > > > > ------------------------------------- ----------- > Sam Houston State University > where Education is up Close and Personal > http://www.shsu.edu > ------------------------------------------------ Sam Houston State University where Education is up Close and Personal http://www.shsu.edu