Son DAVID born -> est before 1792 in Virginia { census info from David } . 1840 Son - David Marmon was in Indiana Looks like time line would be ; benjamin Marmon 1775 est year of birth 1792 Virginia - son born [ could be wrong census info ] 1805 marriage in North Carolina to a Rachel Dicks <- ? family may have been in Ohio for a short time 1840 son in Indiana - father not found in census up to now I dont have anything documented on Benjamin yet . Just started . thanks to everyone for help . I always do a time line on every ancestor to help work out any info that might not be right . sheri Happy Holidays :)