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    1. RE: [VAFAUQUI] Two (not Twenty) Questions -- c1780 (1) "Flat" Branch ? (2) 2 Thomas Massies in Fauquier ?
    2. Nancy Upshaw
    3. Joe, Alcock has two Thomas Massey/Massie's between 1759 + 1790 in Fauquier. 1) Thomas Massey m. 23 Dec 1772 Molly Morehead, d/o John Morehead. In 1792, leases in the Manor of Leeds list the lives of 1. son Thomas, William Sinclair, James Morehead; 2. son Josias, Robert Sinclair, Benjamin Massie; 3. Assey, Thomas and Nancy Massey; 4. Benjamin and John Massie and William Sinklair. 2) A second Thomas Massey paid taxes in 1799 (in addition to above Thomas) (actually pd. by Alexander Keith, Jr.). This Thomas m. 27 Jul 1795 Dolly Graham, widow. Under the entry for Thomas Marshall, the 1000 a. sold (1780) to MAJ. Thomas Massey (New Kent) is at N. Cobbler Mtn, part of a tract purchased of Thomas Turner. Later (1785) the balance of the Turner land (824 a.) is given to his (Marshall's) son John. (However, the Turner land was only 1700 acres, so I don't know where the other 124 acres came from.) North Cobbler Mtn. is probably Little Cobbler as it's known today, since "Little" is north of "Big". However, I have a Deedmapper plot for this tract, and using that with the historical map, the tract appears to be between Crest Hill Road (the east bound) and both the Cobblers (the west bounds), slightly south of where the current VA 17 / I-66 merge is, south of Delaplane. If you have the historical map of Fauquier by Scheel, then look for Crest Hill Road (Rt. 647) so. of I-66 and west of Marshall, and where the words "Dixon Valley" are printed, that is where this 1000a. tract is. It is south of the Oak Hill tract, which is (mostly) just no. of I-66. I couldn't verify the "flat run" notation with anything. However, the land appears to sit on the northwestern part of Carter's Run and the northern part of the East Branch of Thumb Run. Both of these eventually empty into the Rappahannock R. Hope this helps. -Nancy Upshaw -----Original Message----- From: Joseph E. Lake [mailto:joslake@attglobal.net] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:14 AM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Two (not Twenty) Questions -- c1780 (1) "Flat" Branch ? (2) 2 Thomas Massies in Fauquier ? 1) On 28 March 1780, Major Thomas Massie of New Kent County, VA purchased 1000 acres of Fauquier Co. land from Col Thomas Marshall & wife Mary (Fauquier Deed Bk # 7, pp533) of Fauquier Co. The 1000 acres was described as being "part of the tract on which said Thomas Marshall now resides" and as having been purchased (by Marshall) from Thomas Turner (no date specified). In the metes and bounds of the 1000 acres "....to a stake at the flat branch then West 320 poles....." The Indenture further mentions the rights to all buildings, water courses, etc. While the reference to "water courses" appears to be just boiler plate language, my question concerns the two words "flat branch". With "branch" meaning a small stream (water course), is the term "flat" the proper name of the branch, in this case, or simply a reference to some characteristic of the branch. In case it is a "proper" name, where is the "flat branch" in Fauquier Co and what larger stream does it ultimately flow in to ? Or alternately, where was the 1000 acre tract located geographically in Fauquier County ? 2) c1775 to c1800 there were apparently three Thomas Massies in or around Fauquier Co. a. The Major Thomas Massie (named in item @ 1 above) b. Thomas Massie (probable Father of line "c" below. The Fauquier Co grantee index uses the designation "Sr" in at least one instance). c. Thomas Massie (son of "b" ? ) The first Indenture in the Fauquier Grantee Index for a Thomas Massie is 1775, and the Indenture in # 1 above for Major Thomas Massie, New Kent Co, VA is dated 1780 so "a" & "b" would appear to be two different individuals. I don't research Massies, so is there anyone who can confirm (or deny) that assumption ? Thanks.

    01/31/2004 10:06:51
    1. Re: [VAFAUQUI] Two (not Twenty) Questions -- c1780 (1) "Flat" Branch ? (2) 2 Thomas Massies in Fauquier ?
    2. Shirley Starks
    3. The two marriages below are the same man. Major Thomas went on to build a sophisticated saw mill on Long Branch which emptied into the Shenandoah River. This river, creek, whatever.. was / is located in Warren Co, near the Clarke County line. Later, it became known as Swift Shoal Mill. ("Annals of Clarke Co", by Mr. Stuart Brown. From memory.. correct me if wrong.) At the time, this was Old Frederick Co, VA. By 1803, Major Thos. Massie sold everything and moved south into (now) Nelson Co, VA. His estate there was called "Level Green". > Alcock has two Thomas Massey/Massie's between 1759 + 1790 in Fauquier. The #1 and 2 Marriages below, are for the same man. Dolly was originally Dolly Farrow. > > 1) Thomas Massey m. 23 Dec 1772 Molly Morehead, d/o John Morehead. In 1792, > leases in the Manor of Leeds list the lives of 1. son Thomas, William > Sinclair, James Morehead; 2. son Josias, Robert Sinclair, Benjamin Massie; > 3. Assey, Thomas and Nancy Massey; 4. Benjamin and John Massie and William > Sinklair. > > 2) A second Thomas Massey paid taxes in 1799 (in addition to above Thomas) > (actually pd. by Alexander Keith, Jr.). This Thomas m. 27 Jul 1795 Dolly > Graham, widow. ........snipped..... > I couldn't verify the "flat run" notation with anything. However, the land > appears to sit on the northwestern part of Carter's Run and the northern > part of the East Branch of Thumb Run. Both of these eventually empty into > the Rappahannock R. > > Hope this helps. > > -Nancy Upshaw ..........snipped......... Joe wrote: > While the reference to "water courses" appears to be just boiler plate > language, my question concerns the two words "flat branch". With "branch" > meaning a small stream (water course), is the term "flat" the proper name of > the branch, in this case, or simply a reference to some characteristic of > the branch. > > In case it is a "proper" name, where is the "flat branch" in Fauquier Co and > what larger stream does it ultimately flow in to ? Or alternately, where > was the 1000 acre tract located geographically in Fauquier County ?

    02/01/2004 09:03:05
    1. RE: [VAFAUQUI] Two (not Twenty) Questions -- c1780 (1) "Flat" Branch ? (2) 2 Thomas Massies in Fauquier ?
    2. Nancy Upshaw
    3. To the list, Revision: I was looking at the wrong tract last night. The right one is more likely a bit north and west of the one I discussed last night. About right on top of the I-66/Hwy 17 interchange.... -Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Upshaw [mailto:71561.634@compuserve.com] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:07 PM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [VAFAUQUI] Two (not Twenty) Questions -- c1780 (1) "Flat" Branch ? (2) 2 Thomas Massies in Fauquier ? Joe, Alcock has two Thomas Massey/Massie's between 1759 + 1790 in Fauquier. 1) Thomas Massey m. 23 Dec 1772 Molly Morehead, d/o John Morehead. In 1792, leases in the Manor of Leeds list the lives of 1. son Thomas, William Sinclair, James Morehead; 2. son Josias, Robert Sinclair, Benjamin Massie; 3. Assey, Thomas and Nancy Massey; 4. Benjamin and John Massie and William Sinklair. 2) A second Thomas Massey paid taxes in 1799 (in addition to above Thomas) (actually pd. by Alexander Keith, Jr.). This Thomas m. 27 Jul 1795 Dolly Graham, widow. Under the entry for Thomas Marshall, the 1000 a. sold (1780) to MAJ. Thomas Massey (New Kent) is at N. Cobbler Mtn, part of a tract purchased of Thomas Turner. Later (1785) the balance of the Turner land (824 a.) is given to his (Marshall's) son John. (However, the Turner land was only 1700 acres, so I don't know where the other 124 acres came from.) North Cobbler Mtn. is probably Little Cobbler as it's known today, since "Little" is north of "Big". However, I have a Deedmapper plot for this tract, and using that with the historical map, the tract appears to be between Crest Hill Road (the east bound) and both the Cobblers (the west bounds), slightly south of where the current VA 17 / I-66 merge is, south of Delaplane. If you have the historical map of Fauquier by Scheel, then look for Crest Hill Road (Rt. 647) so. of I-66 and west of Marshall, and where the words "Dixon Valley" are printed, that is where this 1000a. tract is. It is south of the Oak Hill tract, which is (mostly) just no. of I-66. I couldn't verify the "flat run" notation with anything. However, the land appears to sit on the northwestern part of Carter's Run and the northern part of the East Branch of Thumb Run. Both of these eventually empty into the Rappahannock R. Hope this helps. -Nancy Upshaw -----Original Message----- From: Joseph E. Lake [mailto:joslake@attglobal.net] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:14 AM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Two (not Twenty) Questions -- c1780 (1) "Flat" Branch ? (2) 2 Thomas Massies in Fauquier ? 1) On 28 March 1780, Major Thomas Massie of New Kent County, VA purchased 1000 acres of Fauquier Co. land from Col Thomas Marshall & wife Mary (Fauquier Deed Bk # 7, pp533) of Fauquier Co. The 1000 acres was described as being "part of the tract on which said Thomas Marshall now resides" and as having been purchased (by Marshall) from Thomas Turner (no date specified). In the metes and bounds of the 1000 acres "....to a stake at the flat branch then West 320 poles....." The Indenture further mentions the rights to all buildings, water courses, etc. While the reference to "water courses" appears to be just boiler plate language, my question concerns the two words "flat branch". With "branch" meaning a small stream (water course), is the term "flat" the proper name of the branch, in this case, or simply a reference to some characteristic of the branch. In case it is a "proper" name, where is the "flat branch" in Fauquier Co and what larger stream does it ultimately flow in to ? Or alternately, where was the 1000 acre tract located geographically in Fauquier County ? 2) c1775 to c1800 there were apparently three Thomas Massies in or around Fauquier Co. a. The Major Thomas Massie (named in item @ 1 above) b. Thomas Massie (probable Father of line "c" below. The Fauquier Co grantee index uses the designation "Sr" in at least one instance). c. Thomas Massie (son of "b" ? ) The first Indenture in the Fauquier Grantee Index for a Thomas Massie is 1775, and the Indenture in # 1 above for Major Thomas Massie, New Kent Co, VA is dated 1780 so "a" & "b" would appear to be two different individuals. I don't research Massies, so is there anyone who can confirm (or deny) that assumption ? Thanks. ______________________________

    02/01/2004 09:23:38