Barbara, as a member of DAR (but also with recent maternal English heritage), I am interested in Creswell's attitude and behavior in the mid 1770s, as it reflects what an *educated* but ill-mannered Englishman thought of our Rebel (backwoods types) ancestors. Our rebel ancestors had developed an independent spirit early on, hadn't they? When I met my mother's still-living English cousins (much younger than she), I was astounded to learn how much the class system & attitudes permeates England, less so now than it seems to have 20 years ago. Some of this attitude shows in Creswell's journal, does it not? But, let me tell you, bad manners and attitudes still exist around the world, at least in English-speaking countries which I have visited. If I understood more foreign languages, I would no doubt find that true of most human beings. E.W.Wallace of First Germanna colonist descent