Hi Shirley! I believe we've corresponded before. The potential connection with the Holder family is my Carr family and the Keith family. I have continued bumping into Holders as I've worked through Alabama, Georgia, Stone County, MO and now Carroll County, AR. It turns out that my 4th gr grandfather John Carr served in the Florida War and Cherokee Removal. He received a land bounty for that service ad took the bounty in Carroll County. He sold the bounty to someone named Daniel S. Hayter in late 1857. What is your connection with Fauquier? If there were Holders in Fauquier, maybe some of my Carr line might have been there, too. If I'm not mistaken, some of the Holders served in the southern Indian Wars with the Carrs and Keiths, all from Jackson County, AL. I have a Constable family and a Harper family with Fauquier connections. William Constable appears to have originated in Maryland and moved to Fauquier. I still don't know the origin of the Harpers. My earliest record is of a marriage between Isaac Harper and Jemima Constable. Robert Schneider > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:05:22 -0600 > From: "Shirley Antrim" <[email protected]> > Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Surname Holder > To: "Fauquier County Virginia" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I would like to correspond with anyone by the name > of Holder, or who is interested in researching the > name Holder/Holden/ Houlder/and other spellings. > > Shirley Holder Antrim >

Hello Robert - We have corresponded before and it appears you are having better luck than am I. I strongly suspect your John Carr was a brother to my Samuel Carr, b 1803, and son of George Carr who was b in 1746 New Jersey to Walter Carr. George accompanied by Samuel Carr traveled from the Franklin Co., TN area to Illinois in the 1810-1820 time period and spent a bit of time with a brother of George's, James Carr, before moving on to Franklin Co., MO then Morgan Co., MO (where George died in 1835/36). Samuel took his family ( married a daughter, Mary, of Augustin Sims in Illinois) to Lawrence Co., MO and finally settled in Dade Co., MO about 1845. This Carr family seem to have all been Indian fighters and wanderers. My connection to Fauquier is a perfect match on DNA with two ladies who have a proven paper trail to LUKE HOLDER b abt 1725. Luke was the Father of Capt/Col John Holder who was known for his assistance to Daniel Boone in the beginning of Fort Boonesboro, KY and as an Indian Fighter. However, my paper trail does not go to Luke but must belong with a brother of Luke. We have several names of Holders in the Fauquier/Loudon counties born in the 1710-1720 time period who we think are brothers, but can't seem to connect together for lack of their Father's name. They are DAVIS HOLDER, JOSEPH HOLDER AND WILLIAM HOLDER. Known descendants of William and I share a close DNA connection, but my 3rd G Grandfather, Solomon Holder, b 1769 does not appear to be a son of William. We don't have a DNA sample from the Davis group, but they have their family documented and Solomon doesn't seem to belong to them either. Therefore I'm pointing at Joseph. I know he didn't stay long in Fauquier, (married a daughter of James Cox in Orange Co., VA about 1735according to the Cox Will), then migrated on to Johnston Co., NC and Surry Co., NC. I'm hoping someone in Fauquier/Loudon/Prince William can help with the beginnings of this family. Keep me posted on your findings about your Carrs. I'm sure we can count each other a cousin. Shirley Holder Antrim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Schneider" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:06 AM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Holder surname > Hi Shirley! > > I believe we've corresponded before. The potential > connection with the Holder family is my Carr family > and the Keith family. I have continued bumping into > Holders as I've worked through Alabama, Georgia, Stone > County, MO and now Carroll County, AR. It turns out > that my 4th gr grandfather John Carr served in the > Florida War and Cherokee Removal. He received a land > bounty for that service ad took the bounty in Carroll > County. He sold the bounty to someone named Daniel S. > Hayter in late 1857. > > What is your connection with Fauquier? If there were > Holders in Fauquier, maybe some of my Carr line might > have been there, too. If I'm not mistaken, some of > the Holders served in the southern Indian Wars with > the Carrs and Keiths, all from Jackson County, AL. > > I have a Constable family and a Harper family with > Fauquier connections. William Constable appears to > have originated in Maryland and moved to Fauquier. I > still don't know the origin of the Harpers. My > earliest record is of a marriage between Isaac Harper > and Jemima Constable. > > Robert Schneider > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:05:22 -0600 >> From: "Shirley Antrim" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Surname Holder >> To: "Fauquier County Virginia" >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I would like to correspond with anyone by the name >> of Holder, or who is interested in researching the >> name Holder/Holden/ Houlder/and other spellings. >> >> Shirley Holder Antrim >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >