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    2. marianne dillow
    3. To the descendants of Martha Eltonhead that married Edwin Conway, Sr.  Martha's one lineage.  to Henry II is now considered to be invalid.  This is per William Addams Reitwiesner since President Barack Obama desecends from the Eltonhead, Conway and Thacker lines : This is it : It is INVALID on one daughter: At one time it was believed that his shortest royal line, was to Henry II, King of England as follows: Martha Eltonhead, daughter of Richard Eltonhead died 1664 and Anne Sutton died possibly 1654, daughter of Edward Sutton, living 5JamesI and Anne Stanley baptised 31 Dec 1561 Ormskirk, co Lanc., daughter of Peter Stanley buried 24 Jul 1592 Ormskirk, co Lanc. and Cecily Tarleton buried 28 Nov 1568 Ormskirk, co Lanc., son of William Stanley born abt 1474/5 and Anne Harrington "co-heiress of her father", son of William Stanley of Hooten died 3 Mar 1512 and Agnes Grosvenor died 5 Feb 1482 "co-heiress of her father", son of This is Where It is INVALID:------------------------------------------- William Stanley and Mary Savage, daughter of (BUT see [1] where Todd Whitesides states citing the Rylands Charters on A2A, that the widow of this William, and mother of William Stanley of Hooten (next) was Alicia Houghton, not Mary Savage) (The summary of the document Todd cites to break this line is here and states "Grant by William Stanley of Hoton, kt., kinsman and heir of Henry Hoghton, esq., namely the son of Alicia, sister of Henry, to Matthew Swetenham, chaplain - ref. RYCH/1324 - date: Oct. 1, 1510") ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Savage, Knt died 1 Aug 1450 and Maud de Swynnerton "only daughter", born after her parents 1364 dispensation, daughter of Robert, Lord Swynnerton died about 1395 and Elizabeth Beke died 1386 daughter of Thomas de Swynnerton died after 1357 and Maud de Holland, daughter of Robert, 1st Lord Holland beheaded 7 Oct 1328 and Maud le Zouche died abt 1289/90, daughter of Alan le Zouche, Knt died 1313/4 and Eleanor de Seagrave, son of Robert le Zouche died 1285 and Ela de Longespee, daughter of Stephen de Longespee, Knt and Emeline de Ridelsford, Countess of Ulster, son of William Longespee, 3rd Earl of Salisbury died 7 Mar 1225/6 and Ela FitzPatrick, son of Henry II, King of England and Ida de Toeni         However The following is correct and..... VALID:         Martha Eltonhead and Edwin Conway, Sr.         Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton         William Eltonhead and Anne Bowers         Richard Eltonhead and Jennett Garard         Thomas Garard and Mauld Bold         Sir Henry Bold and Dulcia Savage         Sir John Savage and Katherine Stanley         Thomas Stanley and Joan Goushill         Sir Robert Goushill and Elizabeth FitzAlan         Richard FitzAlan and Elizabeth Bohun         William de Bohun and Elizabeth Badlesmere         Baron of Hereford Humphrey de Bohun and Elizabeth Plantagenet         Edward I, King of England and Eleanor of Castile         Henry II, King of England and Eleanore de Provence         Henry II, King of England and Ida de Toni......back to them through different  route         Geoffrey V, Duke of Normandy and Matilda, Queen of France         Henry I, King of England and Maud (Matilda Queen of Scotland         Malcolm III, King of Scotland         Plus this line splits and also goes to William the Conqueror.        Marianne Dillow        Illinois

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