Jackie Thanks for the reference and yes, Catherine (Murray) Carter (daughter of Ralph and Catherine (Byrne) Murray - my 2nd great grandparents) is my great grand Aunt. I had not located the 1855 court suit but was given a land deed dated 1845 which did not validate the children. The info you referenced below matches the children I have located thru 1850 and 1860 census: Alice L. Carter, Edward Carter, Ella O. Carter, and Mary Katherine Carter. I also have that Landon and Catherine (Murray) Carter was listed as the guardian of Juliett A. Murray who married George W. Grayson. After Catherine's death, 3 of the children were living with George and Juliett Grayson. Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jackie King Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:15 PM To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? Charlotte - I don't believe yours tie in with mine but I did find a 1855 court suit against Landon L. Carter's heirs and listing the minor childen as Ada Byron Carter, Alice Lee Carter, Edward Carter, Orra Ella Carter ad Mary Kossuth (?) Carter. Also listed as deceased besides Landon L. is a Catherine Carter. Could this be yours? Jackie Charlotte Brown wrote: > My paternal great grand Aunt Catherine E. Murray married Landon L. Carter. > > From the Murray Family Bible transcribed for Lena Mae Tavenner Brown (my paternal grandmother): > "Catharine Murray - daughter of Ralph and Catharine, his wife, was born August 24th, 1818". Added to this entry was Lena's handwriting " married Maj Landon L Carter". > (copied from a paper clipping printed in the Richmond Enquirer which was placed in the bible - "DIED: Of typhoid fever, at his resident in Fauquier County, Virginia, Major Landon L Carter, aged 37 years 5 months and 24 days.. Maj. Carter was a highly respectable farmer, a good neighbor, a kind and affectionate husband. He has left a wife and five small children to mourn his loss.". > > In September 1834, Landon provided the bond for their guardian Juliet A. Murray to marry George W. Grayson (according to the Loudoun County, Va. Marriages 1760-1850). > > According to the U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules 1850-1880: Landon Carter died of typhoid fever at his residence in Ashby's District, Fauquier Co., Va. He was sick for 6 days prior to his death. > > From the Murray Bible "Catharine Murray daughter of Ralph and Catharine, his wife, departed this life July 12th 1854 aged 35 years 10 months and 19 days" > > Catherine was head of household when the 1850 census was taken in Ashby's District in Fauquier Co., Virginia. After Catherine's death, her children (Alice, Edward, Ella and Mary Catherine) were listed in 1860 census living with George W. and Juliet (Murray) Grayson and their family in Warren Co., Virginia. > > Based on the info found to date this Landon was born abt Sept 1812 and married Nov 18, 1837. > > Mentioned in a land deed (44,401) filed by L.L. Carter probated 26 Mar 1845 that he indebted to the orphans of Presley Carter, named as: Martha Carter, Leonidas Carter, Landon Carter, Catherine Carter, Edward Carter, Presley H.L. Carter & Joseph G. Carter, some of monies due in connection with property in Loudoun Co. VA. (Not sure if this deed is for the same L.L. Carter or not) > > Could any of this info tie back to the Landon Carters referenced in the emails? I have not located any further info on my great grand Aunt Catherine's husband Landon L. Carter. > > Charlotte > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marianne dillow > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:06 PM > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > > Here is some more of that same will as it is rather long and a deed.... Marianne Dillow > > > At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 > > This > Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert > Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors > therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved > to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin > Gent. > the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of > David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said > Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a > probate thereof in due form. > > Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. > Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. > > King George County Deed Book 4; pp. 539-542 > These Articles of Agreement concluded 11th day May 1764 between > LUCY CARTER Relict of CHARLES CARTER the Elder Esgr. late of county > King George and LANDON CARTER now' of Richmond and CHARLES CARTER of > county Lancaster Esqr Executors of last will and testament of Charles > Carter the Elder .. said Charles Carter the Elder did in his life time > by a certain instrument in writing bearing date 9th June 1763 drawn up > and > executed as a Marriage Contract between said Charles and above > mentioned Lucy then LUCY TALIAFERRO .. oblige himself to settle on her > One > thousand pounds Sterling to be paid her within six months of his decease > .. she did agree to accept in lieu of Dower .. also agreed to > leave Lucy the land and plantation which said Charles had purchased of > Executors of Maj. WILLIAM TALIAFERRO with a good and convenient dwelling > house upon the same to be decently furnish'd and suitable offices > thereto together with six working slaves, six house servants and their > Increase including a coachman and postilion, four Beaves, six muttons, > six Lambs & 1500 weight of pork over and above the produce of the said > plantation and slaves with a Chariot and six horses all of which .. > were to be held by Lucy during the time she should continue the widow > of said Charles only and Lucy now the relict and one of the contracting > parties of these presents being willing as she has survived the said > Charles her husband to accept of a compensation for the Plantation and > tract of land the houses to be built on the same, the furniture for > such Houses, the working and house slaves .. the said LANDON CARTER and > CHARLES CARTER also being willing that such compensation should be made > .. the several contracting parties agree the sum of Six hundred pounds > current money shall remain as a Debt upon the Estate for use of ANN > WALKER CARTER now an infant of about age of two months and daughter of > said Charles the Elder deceased and Lucy Garter to be as a Fortune for > said Ann Walker Carter to be paid her at age of twenty one or Lawfully > married .. that twelve months from date of these presents the sum of > Thirty pounds current money as one years Interest for said 600 pounds > be paid Lucy Carter for maintenance of Ann Walker Carter and for every > year 600 pounds sha] I remain as a Debt .. if Ann Walker Carter dies > before age twenty one Estate to pay Lucy Carter Four hundred pounds of > the Six hundred pounds .. > Presence John Tennent, Lucy Carter > Chs. Carter, John Skath Landon Carter > Charles Carter > At a court held 7th June 1764 .. Articles of Agreement admitted to recor > > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:41 PM > > Marianne - > > That was the will that started the court case to which I referred. > Apparently there was a subsequent dispute between Landon Jr. and John as > to how the land should be divided between them. A later court suit > (actually a continuation of the first but filed separately) gives > further details. Landon Jr. and John apparently came to an agreement but > it was never carried out before John's death - and that was when things > got hairy. > > But I do think the answer to the original question will be found within > this branch of the family. There are enough John's to go around. > > Jackie > > marianne dillow wrote: > >> I came in late too.... Marianne Dillow >> >> I have parts of a will here: >> >> Will of Landon Carter (1770/1779) of Sabine Hall, Richmond County, Virginia >> >> >> ***************************************************************************************** >> >> In the >> Name of God Amen, I Landon Carter of Sabine Hall in Richmond County >> being of sound and disposing mind and memory the fourth day of >> September in the year of our Lord seven hundred and seventy do make >> this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking all other Wills that >> have been heretofore made by me. >> >> Item 1st. I intend that my >> son Robert Wormeley Carter shall have one half of my slaves excepting I >> have hereafter given to George Carter my grandson and to Robert >> Hamilton and the other half much the same excepting just mentioned to >> be actually divided between my sons Landon Carter and John Carter. But >> whereas I have by a kind of gift or schedule signed by me the twenty >> second of December in the year Seven thousand and sixty hereunto >> annexed in a manner made over and given to my sons Landon and John >> forty two slaves to be equally divided between them. And whereas I have >> also given to my son Robert Wormley Carter fourteen slaves the >> thirteenth day of November in the same years and Schedule hereunto >> annexed which said several slaves of said sons have severally and >> respectively had the possession of agreeable to such intended Gifts. >> I >> do hereby appoint my friends Mr. Nelson Berkeley, Mr. Robert Beverly, >> The Honble. John Tayloe and Mr. Richard Parker my trustees to divide >> all my slaves except as before mentioned to George Carter & Robert >> Hamilton into four equal parts and I do desire that in the said >> division they have negros to the number and not to the Quality of these >> Slaves that have already been given or mentioned to have been given by >> me (but not their increase) to my said sons the gifts before mentioned >> so as my intention may be complied with in giving my estate as I have >> before declared (to wit) two fourths of my slaves to be divided to my >> son Robert Wormley Carter to be allotted him by my said Trustees in >> which lot Johnson a Mulatto, Betty a daughter to old Frank and [creased >> - next two-three lines partially illegible] not their increase may be >> included. One fourth part of my said slaves including those before >> mentioned to be given by deed as aforesaid (but not their increase) so >> my son Landon Carter and his [illegible] fourth part including those >> slaves before said to be given by the said Deed but not their increase. >> >> To my son John Carter to be allotted him by my said trustees as >> aforesaid, and in order to prevent any [illegible] that may otherwise >> happen in the Division and for a future [illegible] to my said Trustees >> in the division of my slaves as aforesaid I do discharge my intention >> to be that my several Sons amt. stand to their satisfaction in the >> slaves I have by deed as aforesaid given them so that the number of >> such slaves whereby given by the deed as aforesaid must be the >> principal Consideration of my said trustees and the division to be made >> as aforesaid without their [illegible] from the date of the said gift >> which I intended each son should [illegible- fold/crease] >> ************************************************************************************ >> by as I subjected them to any loss that might happen in the Slaves given them as before. >> >> As I have given so large a proportion of my slaves to my son Robert >> lest it should be thought that the slaves which I hold under the Will >> of my deceased brother George Carter are entailed (though I am fully >> persuaded they are not) I do declare it to be my Will and desire that >> my said son Robert should only have one Moiety or half part of all my >> slaves including of such as may be adjudged to be entailed upon him on >> any suit or [examination?] to be brought by him or given on his favour >> of his heirs for the recovery of them upon my Brother George’s Will. >> >> I give and devise to my son Robert Wormeley Carter and his heirs >> forever all my lands in the counties of York, Charles City, King & >> Queen, Lancaster, Northumberland, Richmond, Westmoreland, King George >> & Stafford and all my lands upon Chenandoah [sic] River as is all >> those in the County of Frederick as that tract on the blue Ridge on the >> Virginia side of Chimans River as it is called by the upper Inhabitants >> [crease - illegible] I have hereinafter given to Robert Hamilton in >> case that tract may happen in King George, Stafford or Prince William >> Countie. >> >> At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 >> >> This >> Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert >> Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors >> therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved >> to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin >> Gent. >> the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of >> David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said >> Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a >> probate thereof in due form. >> >> Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. >> Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. >> >> >> And after all that I don't know if this is the right one or not. LOL ! >> >> Marianne Dillow >> >> >> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:16 PM >> >> I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court >> case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles >> Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of >> John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and >> his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and >> Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John >> Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley >> Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of >> John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward >> Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John >> Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as >> heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh >> Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those >> children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. >> >> The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely the son of Landon >> Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. >> >> This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case >> begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of >> those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. >> >> Jackie >> >> >> >> marianne dillow wrote: >> >> >>> Chocy, >>> >>> I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. >>> >>> Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton of England. >>> >>> i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley >>> >>> ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry Corbin. >>> >>> iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. >>> >>> Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : >>> >>> "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. >>> >>> Signed: John Carter >>> >>> Marianne Dillow >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>> From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> >>> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >>> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM >>> >>> Marrianne, >>> I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a son to a John >>> CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon as Pat said >>> there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. >>> I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their fathers were not >>> named John CARTER. >>> Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER, son of this John >>> CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others. (given names >>> in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on repeating >>> themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they all got >>> together at a gathering!) >>> If I knew that the "Secretary" John CARTER had a son named Wormley, >>> then I would be more sure that I had the right family. >>> Chocy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ken: I have several Brown family marriages in Fauquier County, but none are a direct line. I am interested in the connection of your Gray family to the Legg family. Can you fill in any dates and places for me? 1. Jesse1 GRAY was born bef 1798. He married Rody BROWN 23 Mar 1818 in Fauquier, VA. She was born bef 1798. Jesse GRAY and Rody BROWN had the following child: 2 i. Thaddeus2 GRAY was born in Fauquier, VA ca 1826. He married Frances LEGG 12 Feb 1857 in Fauquier, VA. She was born ca 1826 in Fauquier, VA. Frances was the daughter of Walter A. LEGG and Lucy HALL. Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ken Gray Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:36 AM To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com; jking71@gmail.com Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Brown Families in Fauquier Around 1800 Hello list. I am looking for any information about Brown families in Fauquier around 1800. Specifically, the family of Roda Brown. Marriage records indicate that Roda Brown (married Jesse Gray 23 March 1818 in Fauquier County) is the daughter of Thaddeus Brown and Frances Thaddeus. Does anyone know more about any of these folks? Has any connection ever been made between the Browns of early Fauquier and the Brown families in Westmoreland County around 1650--1700? Browns, Grays and Popes all settled along Machodoc Creek in Westmoreland County around 1650. Thanks.

Sorry, I forgot to put a subject in my previous posting. I sincerely apologize.... Marianne Dillow _------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To the descendants of Martha Eltonhead that married Edwin Conway, Sr.  Martha's one lineage.  to Henry II is now considered to be invalid.  This is per William Addams Reitwiesner since President Barack Obama desecends from the Eltonhead, Conway and Thacker lines : This is it : It is INVALID on one daughter: At one time it was believed that his shortest royal line, was to Henry II, King of England as follows: Martha Eltonhead, daughter of Richard Eltonhead died 1664 and Anne Sutton died possibly 1654, daughter of Edward Sutton, living 5JamesI and Anne Stanley baptised 31 Dec 1561 Ormskirk, co Lanc., daughter of Peter Stanley buried 24 Jul 1592 Ormskirk, co Lanc. and Cecily Tarleton buried 28 Nov 1568 Ormskirk, co Lanc., son of William Stanley born abt 1474/5 and Anne Harrington "co-heiress of her father", son of William Stanley of Hooten died 3 Mar 1512 and Agnes Grosvenor died 5 Feb 1482 "co-heiress of her father", son of This is Where It is INVALID:------------------------------------------- William Stanley and Mary Savage, daughter of (BUT see [1] where Todd Whitesides states citing the Rylands Charters on A2A, that the widow of this William, and mother of William Stanley of Hooten (next) was Alicia Houghton, not Mary Savage) (The summary of the document Todd cites to break this line is here and states "Grant by William Stanley of Hoton, kt., kinsman and heir of Henry Hoghton, esq., namely the son of Alicia, sister of Henry, to Matthew Swetenham, chaplain - ref. RYCH/1324 - date: Oct. 1, 1510") ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Savage, Knt died 1 Aug 1450 and Maud de Swynnerton "only daughter", born after her parents 1364 dispensation, daughter of Robert, Lord Swynnerton died about 1395 and Elizabeth Beke died 1386 daughter of Thomas de Swynnerton died after 1357 and Maud de Holland, daughter of Robert, 1st Lord Holland beheaded 7 Oct 1328 and Maud le Zouche died abt 1289/90, daughter of Alan le Zouche, Knt died 1313/4 and Eleanor de Seagrave, son of Robert le Zouche died 1285 and Ela de Longespee, daughter of Stephen de Longespee, Knt and Emeline de Ridelsford, Countess of Ulster, son of William Longespee, 3rd Earl of Salisbury died 7 Mar 1225/6 and Ela FitzPatrick, son of Henry II, King of England and Ida de Toeni         However.... The following is correct and..... VALID:         Martha Eltonhead and Edwin Conway, Sr.         Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton         William Eltonhead and Anne Bowers         Richard Eltonhead and Jennett Garard         Thomas Garard and Mauld Bold         Sir Henry Bold and Dulcia Savage         Sir John Savage and Katherine Stanley         Thomas Stanley and Joan Goushill         Sir Robert Goushill and Elizabeth FitzAlan         Richard FitzAlan and Elizabeth Bohun         William de Bohun and Elizabeth Badlesmere         Baron of Hereford Humphrey de Bohun and Elizabeth Plantagenet         Edward I, King of England and Eleanor of Castile         Henry II, King of England and Eleanore de Provence         Henry II, King of England and Ida de Toni......back to them through different  route         Geoffrey V, Duke of Normandy and Matilda, Queen ofFrance         Henry I, King of England and Maud (Matilda Queen of Scotland         Malcolm III, King of Scotland         Plus this line splits and also goes to William the Conqueror.        Marianne Dillow           Illinois

To the descendants of Martha Eltonhead that married Edwin Conway, Sr.  Martha's one lineage.  to Henry II is now considered to be invalid.  This is per William Addams Reitwiesner since President Barack Obama desecends from the Eltonhead, Conway and Thacker lines : This is it : It is INVALID on one daughter: At one time it was believed that his shortest royal line, was to Henry II, King of England as follows: Martha Eltonhead, daughter of Richard Eltonhead died 1664 and Anne Sutton died possibly 1654, daughter of Edward Sutton, living 5JamesI and Anne Stanley baptised 31 Dec 1561 Ormskirk, co Lanc., daughter of Peter Stanley buried 24 Jul 1592 Ormskirk, co Lanc. and Cecily Tarleton buried 28 Nov 1568 Ormskirk, co Lanc., son of William Stanley born abt 1474/5 and Anne Harrington "co-heiress of her father", son of William Stanley of Hooten died 3 Mar 1512 and Agnes Grosvenor died 5 Feb 1482 "co-heiress of her father", son of This is Where It is INVALID:------------------------------------------- William Stanley and Mary Savage, daughter of (BUT see [1] where Todd Whitesides states citing the Rylands Charters on A2A, that the widow of this William, and mother of William Stanley of Hooten (next) was Alicia Houghton, not Mary Savage) (The summary of the document Todd cites to break this line is here and states "Grant by William Stanley of Hoton, kt., kinsman and heir of Henry Hoghton, esq., namely the son of Alicia, sister of Henry, to Matthew Swetenham, chaplain - ref. RYCH/1324 - date: Oct. 1, 1510") ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Savage, Knt died 1 Aug 1450 and Maud de Swynnerton "only daughter", born after her parents 1364 dispensation, daughter of Robert, Lord Swynnerton died about 1395 and Elizabeth Beke died 1386 daughter of Thomas de Swynnerton died after 1357 and Maud de Holland, daughter of Robert, 1st Lord Holland beheaded 7 Oct 1328 and Maud le Zouche died abt 1289/90, daughter of Alan le Zouche, Knt died 1313/4 and Eleanor de Seagrave, son of Robert le Zouche died 1285 and Ela de Longespee, daughter of Stephen de Longespee, Knt and Emeline de Ridelsford, Countess of Ulster, son of William Longespee, 3rd Earl of Salisbury died 7 Mar 1225/6 and Ela FitzPatrick, son of Henry II, King of England and Ida de Toeni         However The following is correct and..... VALID:         Martha Eltonhead and Edwin Conway, Sr.         Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton         William Eltonhead and Anne Bowers         Richard Eltonhead and Jennett Garard         Thomas Garard and Mauld Bold         Sir Henry Bold and Dulcia Savage         Sir John Savage and Katherine Stanley         Thomas Stanley and Joan Goushill         Sir Robert Goushill and Elizabeth FitzAlan         Richard FitzAlan and Elizabeth Bohun         William de Bohun and Elizabeth Badlesmere         Baron of Hereford Humphrey de Bohun and Elizabeth Plantagenet         Edward I, King of England and Eleanor of Castile         Henry II, King of England and Eleanore de Provence         Henry II, King of England and Ida de Toni......back to them through different  route         Geoffrey V, Duke of Normandy and Matilda, Queen of France         Henry I, King of England and Maud (Matilda Queen of Scotland         Malcolm III, King of Scotland         Plus this line splits and also goes to William the Conqueror.        Marianne Dillow        Illinois

On my previous posting I should have included the following.  Someone sent me pages 116 and 117 from the book  entitled " A Place In Time". This consists of my family information but the proceeding pages before p 116 and the ones after p 117 would include family  info also. This book is on Middlesex Co., Va 1650-1750 by Darrett B. and Anita H. Rutman.   Apparently after my 8th great grandfather , Henry Thacker, Sr   died my grandmother Eltonhead Conway Thacker married William Stanard. On p. 117 of this book it states: Family, Friends and Neighbors:   When, in 1681 Henry (this is Henry thacker, JR that married Elizabeth Payne, my next grandparents).. Edwin and Martha Thacker went to court to obtain a guardian other than her new husband (William Stanard) , it was obviously because the children .. or at least Henry (JR) , the eldest at eighteen ---- suspected that their new stepfather would act against their interest. In 1686 Henry. on behalf of himself and the other children, brought suit against Stanard for his mishandling of their estates, and Stanard fled the county. " It goes on to mention other families in Midddlesex County too. Page 16 mentions Elias Edmonds concerning children and education and mentions CONNOWAY's (Conway) letter concerning the death of parents in this society. Marianne Dillow Illinois. 

Someone sent me pages 116 and 117 from the book  entitled " A Place In Time". This consists of my family information but the proceeding pages before p 116 and the ones after p 117 would include family  info also. Does anyone have this book where they could send me the extra pages. I have a broken ankle and can't walk for at least  for 6 more weeks. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Marianne Dillow Illinois

"Wormley Carter b 1760 Prince William Co., Va. D 1815 in same location. He married Sarah Edwards dau of James William Edwards and Sarah Sangster Everett." Can anyone document the marriage of James W. Edwards and Sarah Sangster? Was Everett her maiden name, or was she a widow when she md. Edwards? Where might I find more information about James Edwards? Was he the progenitor of the family in Fauquier? Thank you, Ms. Marty Hiatt, CG Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency and evaluation and used under license to the Board's associates.

June, Thank you for the "Landon Carter Diary" website address. I enjoyed it and the great pictures of "Sabine Hall"--------------------Chocy

Jackie, Had a little chuckle with your George sneeking into your database as a child of The "Councillor", Robert and Pricilla CARTER, as I have Eliza (sure it was short for Elizabeth), Robert married to Francis "Anne" TASKER, the daughter of Judge Benjamin TASKER and a Charles. Only I do not have a reference on my Charles, so maybe your George and my Charles have been sneeking around together! Another interesting note concerning Robert CARTER, Jr. that I was just reading in "Fauquier During The Proprietorship" where Robert CARTER, Jr., described as an infant in 1710 having 902 acres and 10 acres on the north side of Occoquan river and a little below the falls being granted to him through the efforts of his father. He must have been wealthy at the time of his early death at about 28 years------------------ Sources: "Some Prominent Virginia Families" and Liber 31, folio 90 5 Oct. 1760 TASKER, BENJAMIN, Jr., of Annapolis, Esq. To my father, the Hon. Benjamin Tasker, Esq., all my e., to be sold & the preceeds used as follows: 1/3 to my sister Ann Ogle, widow, for life, & then to be equ. div. among her chldn. [not named]; 1/3 to my sister Elizabeth Lowndes, wife of Christopher Lowndes, for life, & then to be equ. div. among her chldn. [not named], but nothing is to be paid to sd. Christopher; & the remaining 1/3 to my sister Frances Carter, wife of the Hon. Robert Carter, Esq., of Virginia, for life, & then to be equ. div. among her chldn. [not named]. Extr: my sd. father. Witn: Geo. Steuart, U[pton] Scott, Ths. Johnson, Jr. 25 Oct. 1760, sworn to by all 3 witn. 20 Oct. 1760, Sarah Myers of Anne Arunel Co., spinster, swore that on 11 Oct. instant the testator told her to tell his father that his library in general in Annap- olis & at Belleair was for Dr. Upton Scott.

http://www.heritage.umd.edu/chrsweb/nps/Manassas/SudleyPostOffice/Chapter%202A.htm

http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/becomingamer/economies/text5/landoncarterdiary.pdf Born in August 1710 into one of the wealthiest planter families of Virginia, Landon Carter was landed gentry. Educated in London with his brothers, Carter returned at age sixteen and learned plantation management from his father, Robert “King” Carter. At age twenty-two, events propelled Carter into his adulthood: his father died, leaving him eight plantations, and he married the first of his three wives (all of whom died before 1758). As was the norm for Virginia gentry, Carter became involved in public affairs, as a justice of the peace, member of the county court, and later, commander of the militia. In 1752 he was elected to the Virginia legislature, the House of Burgesses.

Researchers, Great information on the Families of Fauquier and surrounding counties, if you find any bits of information regarding Slaves or Freed African-Americans, I would appreciate you sharing with me so I can record in the Afro-American Historical Association of Fauquier County. Wills, Deeds, Court, Appraisements and Bible Records. A lot of the First, Middle and Last Names of your Ancestors are also names of Slaves and Freed Folks I.e. Landon, Wormley, King, Presley See our site at www.AAHAFauquier.org<http://www.aahafauquier.org/> KAREN KING LAVORE Vice President AAHA e-mail - kdk0434@msn.com<mailto:kdk0434@msn.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie King<mailto:jking71@gmail.com> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com<mailto:vafauqui@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely the son of Landon Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. Jackie marianne dillow wrote: > Chocy, > > I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. > > Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton of England. > > i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley > > ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry Corbin. > > iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. > > Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : > > "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. > > Signed: John Carter > > Marianne Dillow > > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com<mailto:Chocybrown@aol.com> <Chocybrown@aol.com<mailto:Chocybrown@aol.com>> wrote: > > From: Chocybrown@aol.com<mailto:Chocybrown@aol.com> <Chocybrown@aol.com<mailto:Chocybrown@aol.com>> > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com<mailto:vafauqui@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM > > Marrianne, > I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a son to a John > CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon as Pat said > there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. > I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their fathers were not > named John CARTER. > Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER, son of this John > CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others. (given names > in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on repeating > themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they all got > together at a gathering!) > If I knew that the "Secretary" John CARTER had a son named Wormley, > then I would be more sure that I had the right family. > Chocy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I finished going over some of the material we have been discussing and hopefully I am not to confused. If anyone can set me straight, please do. First, this is for Mary Ann and is only a thought out of desperation to find out who the parents of your Colonel John CARTER of Rap. Rv. in Lancaster County who died: 1699 at "Nominy". Not knowing his birth year, I thought I'd throw this out as a possibility. Robert CARTER and his wife Pricilla BLADEN were married about 1725. Robert estimated birth year is ca 1704 and he died about 1732 at "Nominy" leaving 3 children that I know of born between 1726 and the time of his death in 1732 at about age 28. If you figure in having a child about every two years they had time to have at lease one more child or even two if Pricilla was expecting at the time of Robert's death. You may already have explored this family; but if not it might turn up something for you. This was the son of Robert "King" CARTER of "Corotoman Plantation", Lancaster County, Virginia. I now have 7 Landon CARTERs. Thanks to everyone for the lawsuit information. I did not have any of John CARTER of "Sudley" and his wife, Janet HAMILTION's children. For sure Robert, Landon and Wormley are their children. However, as heirs of this John CARTER are Anne Beale, John and Edward CARTER, also his children. Edward CARTER, probably not; but who are his parents? CARTER the fun family, Chocy

Okay I found my Robert info. I do have four children listed for Robert and Priscilla but I could be talked out of one of them very easily. The four I have are 1.) Robert married to Francis Ann Tasker 2.) Elizabeth married to Francis Willis 3.) Priscilla who married William James Weir 4.) George - for whom I have no information. Did George sneak into my database? Jackie Chocybrown@aol.com wrote: > I finished going over some of the material we have been discussing and > hopefully I am not to confused. If anyone can set me straight, please do. > > First, this is for Mary Ann and is only a thought out of desperation to > find out who the parents of your Colonel John CARTER of Rap. Rv. in Lancaster > County who died: 1699 at "Nominy". > Not knowing his birth year, I thought I'd throw this out as a possibility. > > Robert CARTER and his wife Pricilla BLADEN were married about 1725. Robert > estimated birth year is ca 1704 and he died about 1732 at "Nominy" leaving > 3 children that I know of born between 1726 and the time of his death in > 1732 at about age 28. If you figure in having a child about every two years > they had time to have at lease one more child or even two if Pricilla was > expecting at the time of Robert's death. You may already have explored > this family; but if not it might turn up something for you. This was the son > of Robert "King" CARTER of "Corotoman Plantation", Lancaster County, > Virginia. > > I now have 7 Landon CARTERs. > > Thanks to everyone for the lawsuit information. I did not have any of John > CARTER of "Sudley" and his wife, Janet HAMILTION's children. For sure > Robert, Landon and Wormley are their children. > However, as heirs of this John CARTER are Anne Beale, John and Edward > CARTER, also his children. Edward CARTER, probably not; but who are his parents? > > CARTER the fun family, > Chocy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

As I have posted before, Martha Eltonhead that married Edwin Conway, Sr are my 9th great grandparents. Martha's sister Eleanor Eltonhead married Col. John Carter. Would anyone know who his parents are? Here is some info I have on him. Col. John Carter Died: 6 JAN 1669/70 in "Nomini Hall" Lancaster County, Virginia CARTER, John. Will. 15 September 1669. 6 January 1669/70. Son, John Carter; son, Robert 1000 acres of land that was deserted by Col. Mathews and taken up by me, ( vizt. ) the neck of land that Wm. Thatcher and Wm. Hutchings has taken. Daughter, Elizabeth Utie. Wife, Elizabeth and her young son (whose name is intended to be Charles). Before marriage to present wife had made deed of gift to son John. Mr. Thomas Haynes, Mr. Thomas Malstard and Mr David Miller to be appraisors of estate. Extr., son John. Codicil, 16 Sept. 1669. To cozen John Carter one hogshead of tobacco. Wits. David Mils, Edward Carter, Thos. Edmonds, Jos. Willis. Bones of deceased wife and son George to be dug up and laid by me in the chancel of Christ Church Parish in Lancaster County, in a coffin. Marianne Dillow  

Well I sure don't have this proven - but I believe Edward Carter is the son of Charles Carter and Mary Walker Carter (who is the daughter of Charles Carter and Mary Walker.) I THINK. If I am right and you have Carters in your direct line you might want to be looking for extra toes, fingers etc. Now I have to go look at Robert. Jackie Chocybrown@aol.com wrote: > I finished going over some of the material we have been discussing and > hopefully I am not to confused. If anyone can set me straight, please do. > > First, this is for Mary Ann and is only a thought out of desperation to > find out who the parents of your Colonel John CARTER of Rap. Rv. in Lancaster > County who died: 1699 at "Nominy". > Not knowing his birth year, I thought I'd throw this out as a possibility. > > Robert CARTER and his wife Pricilla BLADEN were married about 1725. Robert > estimated birth year is ca 1704 and he died about 1732 at "Nominy" leaving > 3 children that I know of born between 1726 and the time of his death in > 1732 at about age 28. If you figure in having a child about every two years > they had time to have at lease one more child or even two if Pricilla was > expecting at the time of Robert's death. You may already have explored > this family; but if not it might turn up something for you. This was the son > of Robert "King" CARTER of "Corotoman Plantation", Lancaster County, > Virginia. > > I now have 7 Landon CARTERs. > > Thanks to everyone for the lawsuit information. I did not have any of John > CARTER of "Sudley" and his wife, Janet HAMILTION's children. For sure > Robert, Landon and Wormley are their children. > However, as heirs of this John CARTER are Anne Beale, John and Edward > CARTER, also his children. Edward CARTER, probably not; but who are his parents? > > CARTER the fun family, > Chocy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This info may help researchers of this line but does not answer the query posted. Ginny K. Adventurers of Purse and Person, Virginia 1607-1625 Sponsored by the Order of First Families of Virginia, 1607-1624 second edition, 1964 Page 233 in above book; Mann, Page, [1691-1730] [Matthew Page 3/ Alice Lukin 2/ Edward 1. Mann 4, undertook in 1725 the erection of the mansion "Rosewell", often cited as the finest colonial structure in America. The building was incomplete when Mann 4, died, but his son, Mann 5, carried out the original plans of his father. ' He was heir also to the vast Page land holdings as well as a large number of slaves and other family possessions, In order to meet the obligations imposed upon him by his inheritance he petitioned the Assembly, 1744, to dock the Page entail. He married at the age of twenty-one, first ; Judith, daughter of RALPH WORMELEY, Secretary of Virginia, 1693-1701, and married second in 1718, Judith, second daughter of Robert [King} Carter of Corotoman, Lancaster Co Virginia. ***

Marianne - I show the child married to Sarah Edwards simply as Wormley or Wormeley (you will find the second as an alternative spelling. I don't think I have ever seen him referred to as Landon Wormley. As for Charles Landon - you will sometimes see people refer to him as Charles Landon Beale Carter. I have never found any documentation for that and indeed all of his signatures are either C.L., Charles Landon or I have found one document that is C. Landon Carter. I believe he was probably actually born in Fauquier Co. since that is where the family estate was - but his later estate of Ridgeville apparently spanned the two counties a bit. Charles and Ann Steuart Carter had 8 children - and their names just add to the family pattern - Susan Catherine, Judith Anne, Hebe, Charles Landon, Mary Fauntleroy, Marion Steuart, Duncan Steuart and Ellen Moore Carter. Fauntleroy was carried as a middle name in this family for several generations. Jackie marianne dillow wrote: > Since Loudoun was formed from Fairfax and it from Prince William Co., Va I have the following as I have 4 other family lines in those counties not kin to the Carters: > > i. Robert "King" Carter and Elizabeth Landon > > ii. Landon Carter and Elizabeth Wormley > > iii. Landon Wormley Carter and Judith Fauntleroy > > They had among their children two sons: > > a. Landon Wormley Carter b 1760 Prince William Co., Va. D 1815 in same location. He married Sarah Edwards dau of James William Edwards and Sarah Sangster Everett. > > b. Charles Landon Carter b 24 Feb 1774 Loudoun Co., Va. D Aft 1834. He married Anne Steuart. 24 Feb 1801 in Washington, DC. She was the dau of Hugh Steuart and Anne Orr. She died in Fauquier Co., Va. > > That's all I have on them other than what I have already posted. . > > Marianne Dillow > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

My paternal great grand Aunt Catherine E. Murray married Landon L. Carter. >From the Murray Family Bible transcribed for Lena Mae Tavenner Brown (my paternal grandmother): "Catharine Murray - daughter of Ralph and Catharine, his wife, was born August 24th, 1818". Added to this entry was Lena's handwriting " married Maj Landon L Carter". (copied from a paper clipping printed in the Richmond Enquirer which was placed in the bible - "DIED: Of typhoid fever, at his resident in Fauquier County, Virginia, Major Landon L Carter, aged 37 years 5 months and 24 days.. Maj. Carter was a highly respectable farmer, a good neighbor, a kind and affectionate husband. He has left a wife and five small children to mourn his loss.". In September 1834, Landon provided the bond for their guardian Juliet A. Murray to marry George W. Grayson (according to the Loudoun County, Va. Marriages 1760-1850). According to the U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules 1850-1880: Landon Carter died of typhoid fever at his residence in Ashby's District, Fauquier Co., Va. He was sick for 6 days prior to his death. >From the Murray Bible "Catharine Murray daughter of Ralph and Catharine, his wife, departed this life July 12th 1854 aged 35 years 10 months and 19 days" Catherine was head of household when the 1850 census was taken in Ashby's District in Fauquier Co., Virginia. After Catherine's death, her children (Alice, Edward, Ella and Mary Catherine) were listed in 1860 census living with George W. and Juliet (Murray) Grayson and their family in Warren Co., Virginia. Based on the info found to date this Landon was born abt Sept 1812 and married Nov 18, 1837. Mentioned in a land deed (44,401) filed by L.L. Carter probated 26 Mar 1845 that he indebted to the orphans of Presley Carter, named as: Martha Carter, Leonidas Carter, Landon Carter, Catherine Carter, Edward Carter, Presley H.L. Carter & Joseph G. Carter, some of monies due in connection with property in Loudoun Co. VA. (Not sure if this deed is for the same L.L. Carter or not) Could any of this info tie back to the Landon Carters referenced in the emails? I have not located any further info on my great grand Aunt Catherine's husband Landon L. Carter. Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marianne dillow Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:06 PM To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? Here is some more of that same will as it is rather long and a deed.... Marianne Dillow At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 This Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin Gent. the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a probate thereof in due form. Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. King George County Deed Book 4; pp. 539-542 These Articles of Agreement concluded 11th day May 1764 between LUCY CARTER Relict of CHARLES CARTER the Elder Esgr. late of county King George and LANDON CARTER now' of Richmond and CHARLES CARTER of county Lancaster Esqr Executors of last will and testament of Charles Carter the Elder .. said Charles Carter the Elder did in his life time by a certain instrument in writing bearing date 9th June 1763 drawn up and executed as a Marriage Contract between said Charles and above mentioned Lucy then LUCY TALIAFERRO .. oblige himself to settle on her One thousand pounds Sterling to be paid her within six months of his decease .. she did agree to accept in lieu of Dower .. also agreed to leave Lucy the land and plantation which said Charles had purchased of Executors of Maj. WILLIAM TALIAFERRO with a good and convenient dwelling house upon the same to be decently furnish'd and suitable offices thereto together with six working slaves, six house servants and their Increase including a coachman and postilion, four Beaves, six muttons, six Lambs & 1500 weight of pork over and above the produce of the said plantation and slaves with a Chariot and six horses all of which .. were to be held by Lucy during the time she should continue the widow of said Charles only and Lucy now the relict and one of the contracting parties of these presents being willing as she has survived the said Charles her husband to accept of a compensation for the Plantation and tract of land the houses to be built on the same, the furniture for such Houses, the working and house slaves .. the said LANDON CARTER and CHARLES CARTER also being willing that such compensation should be made .. the several contracting parties agree the sum of Six hundred pounds current money shall remain as a Debt upon the Estate for use of ANN WALKER CARTER now an infant of about age of two months and daughter of said Charles the Elder deceased and Lucy Garter to be as a Fortune for said Ann Walker Carter to be paid her at age of twenty one or Lawfully married .. that twelve months from date of these presents the sum of Thirty pounds current money as one years Interest for said 600 pounds be paid Lucy Carter for maintenance of Ann Walker Carter and for every year 600 pounds sha] I remain as a Debt .. if Ann Walker Carter dies before age twenty one Estate to pay Lucy Carter Four hundred pounds of the Six hundred pounds .. Presence John Tennent, Lucy Carter Chs. Carter, John Skath Landon Carter Charles Carter At a court held 7th June 1764 .. Articles of Agreement admitted to recor --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:41 PM Marianne - That was the will that started the court case to which I referred. Apparently there was a subsequent dispute between Landon Jr. and John as to how the land should be divided between them. A later court suit (actually a continuation of the first but filed separately) gives further details. Landon Jr. and John apparently came to an agreement but it was never carried out before John's death - and that was when things got hairy. But I do think the answer to the original question will be found within this branch of the family. There are enough John's to go around. Jackie marianne dillow wrote: > I came in late too.... Marianne Dillow > > I have parts of a will here: > > Will of Landon Carter (1770/1779) of Sabine Hall, Richmond County, Virginia > > > ***************************************************************************************** > > In the > Name of God Amen, I Landon Carter of Sabine Hall in Richmond County > being of sound and disposing mind and memory the fourth day of > September in the year of our Lord seven hundred and seventy do make > this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking all other Wills that > have been heretofore made by me. > > Item 1st. I intend that my > son Robert Wormeley Carter shall have one half of my slaves excepting I > have hereafter given to George Carter my grandson and to Robert > Hamilton and the other half much the same excepting just mentioned to > be actually divided between my sons Landon Carter and John Carter. But > whereas I have by a kind of gift or schedule signed by me the twenty > second of December in the year Seven thousand and sixty hereunto > annexed in a manner made over and given to my sons Landon and John > forty two slaves to be equally divided between them. And whereas I have > also given to my son Robert Wormley Carter fourteen slaves the > thirteenth day of November in the same years and Schedule hereunto > annexed which said several slaves of said sons have severally and > respectively had the possession of agreeable to such intended Gifts. > I > do hereby appoint my friends Mr. Nelson Berkeley, Mr. Robert Beverly, > The Honble. John Tayloe and Mr. Richard Parker my trustees to divide > all my slaves except as before mentioned to George Carter & Robert > Hamilton into four equal parts and I do desire that in the said > division they have negros to the number and not to the Quality of these > Slaves that have already been given or mentioned to have been given by > me (but not their increase) to my said sons the gifts before mentioned > so as my intention may be complied with in giving my estate as I have > before declared (to wit) two fourths of my slaves to be divided to my > son Robert Wormley Carter to be allotted him by my said Trustees in > which lot Johnson a Mulatto, Betty a daughter to old Frank and [creased > - next two-three lines partially illegible] not their increase may be > included. One fourth part of my said slaves including those before > mentioned to be given by deed as aforesaid (but not their increase) so > my son Landon Carter and his [illegible] fourth part including those > slaves before said to be given by the said Deed but not their increase. > > To my son John Carter to be allotted him by my said trustees as > aforesaid, and in order to prevent any [illegible] that may otherwise > happen in the Division and for a future [illegible] to my said Trustees > in the division of my slaves as aforesaid I do discharge my intention > to be that my several Sons amt. stand to their satisfaction in the > slaves I have by deed as aforesaid given them so that the number of > such slaves whereby given by the deed as aforesaid must be the > principal Consideration of my said trustees and the division to be made > as aforesaid without their [illegible] from the date of the said gift > which I intended each son should [illegible- fold/crease] > ************************************************************************************ > by as I subjected them to any loss that might happen in the Slaves given them as before. > > As I have given so large a proportion of my slaves to my son Robert > lest it should be thought that the slaves which I hold under the Will > of my deceased brother George Carter are entailed (though I am fully > persuaded they are not) I do declare it to be my Will and desire that > my said son Robert should only have one Moiety or half part of all my > slaves including of such as may be adjudged to be entailed upon him on > any suit or [examination?] to be brought by him or given on his favour > of his heirs for the recovery of them upon my Brother George’s Will. > > I give and devise to my son Robert Wormeley Carter and his heirs > forever all my lands in the counties of York, Charles City, King & > Queen, Lancaster, Northumberland, Richmond, Westmoreland, King George > & Stafford and all my lands upon Chenandoah [sic] River as is all > those in the County of Frederick as that tract on the blue Ridge on the > Virginia side of Chimans River as it is called by the upper Inhabitants > [crease - illegible] I have hereinafter given to Robert Hamilton in > case that tract may happen in King George, Stafford or Prince William > Countie. > > At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 > > This > Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert > Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors > therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved > to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin > Gent. > the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of > David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said > Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a > probate thereof in due form. > > Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. > Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. > > > And after all that I don't know if this is the right one or not. LOL ! > > Marianne Dillow > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:16 PM > > I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court > case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles > Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of > John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and > his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and > Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John > Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley > Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of > John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward > Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John > Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as > heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh > Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those > children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. > > The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely the son of Landon > Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. > > This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case > begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of > those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. > > Jackie > > > > marianne dillow wrote: > >> Chocy, >> >> I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. >> >> Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton of England. >> >> i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley >> >> ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry Corbin. >> >> iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. >> >> Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : >> >> "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. >> >> Signed: John Carter >> >> Marianne Dillow >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: >> >> From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM >> >> Marrianne, >> I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a son to a John >> CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon as Pat said >> there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. >> I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their fathers were not >> named John CARTER. >> Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER, son of this John >> CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others. (given names >> in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on repeating >> themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they all got >> together at a gathering!) >> If I knew that the "Secretary" John CARTER had a son named Wormley, >> then I would be more sure that I had the right family. >> Chocy >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi June, Then my posting was correct ?????? Marianne --- On Sun, 2/14/10, cpzb4@aol.com <cpzb4@aol.com> wrote: From: cpzb4@aol.com <cpzb4@aol.com> Subject: [VAFAUQUI] The Diary of Landon Carter To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:52 AM http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/becomingamer/economies/text5/landoncarterdiary.pdf Born in August 1710 into one of the wealthiest planter families of Virginia, Landon Carter was landed gentry. Educated in London with his brothers, Carter returned at age sixteen and learned plantation management from his father, Robert “King” Carter. At age twenty-two, events propelled Carter into his adulthood: his father died, leaving him eight plantations, and he married the first of his three wives (all of whom died before 1758). As was the norm for Virginia gentry, Carter became involved in public affairs, as a justice of the peace, member of the county court, and later, commander of the militia. In 1752 he was elected to the Virginia legislature, the House of Burgesses.