Estelle, OVJ will probably solve much for us but you were right about GROVE CHURCH being in GOLD VIEW. LOL! page 11 "In 1915 a man by name of ROBERT CALVIN EMBREY who lived near the Rappahannock River purposed in his heart by the will of God to build a church in Sumerduck. It was to be a NEW SCHOOL BAPTIST CHURCH like the GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH in GOLD VIEW. My father helped to build that church. I have been a member there for 44 years. The church went for years without a cemetery, but now has one located in the back a distance from the church. People attended not only the Primitive Baptist Church but also the GROVE and Mt. HOLLY CHURCH before the NEW SCHOOL BAPTIST CHURCH was built in Sumerduck. Mt. HOLLY CHURCH is located about three miles up the REMINGTON road from Sumerduck and has a large cemetery nearby." Amanda

What I did when I had a map of Fauquier with a list of leases and people wanted to share it ..was to scan. It was too large for one so I divided it in to about ten pieces. Scanned it to my email and then sent it to those who wanted it. Maybe you might be able to do that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Douglass" <aadouglass@nc.rr.com> To: <vafauqui@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 12:55 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] The Little Village of Sumerduck written by Olive V. Jones > Hey List, > > When I was recently up to Warrenton, Va at the Library, I found some books > and two have been sent to me via inter library loan to NC. One is a gold > mine of information! It was written by Olive V. Jones in 1970 and she is > talking about the little village of Sumerduck fifty years ago. There's a > little map of people's houses, churches, stores, etc. > > I think that some of the lines that June, Renee and Denise have been > researching may be mentioned in her writings. I am going to begin sharing > the names and relationships to see if any of you have these lines or can > help put some of the pieces together. I'll give the page number with some > of the information. > > There is one page between pages 22 and 23 that is a diagram of the houses, > stores, etc. in what was called village of SUMERDUCK. > > I can't draw it but will start at top and work down. > > COLUMBUS & GUSSIE HOLMES [a house] > WILLIAM JACKSON JONES [his house] then across the road UNION CHURCH, > AUNT SALLIE's HOUSE > [then behinde AUNT SALLIE'S HOUSE is something called THE CANAL.] > > Just below UNION CHURCH was J. HACKLEY JONES [house]. > Nest below is something called THE BROADWALK then across the road THE > SANTA CLAUS HOUS.E > > Below these on that same road is something called WELL [it's just a > well]. > > Just below the WELL on left of road is MILLS HOUSE & SHOP and across the > road was JONES STORE > > Traveling southward on that road next is TAYLOR STORE on left then off to > right is TULLOS HOUSE. > > Next down on left is LOG SCHOOLHOUSE and across road was EMBREY MEMORIAL > CHURCH. > > Last thing listed on left of same road was NEW SCHOOLHOUSE. > > I will start at beginning of the book and try to begin to construct this > village that was on > SUMMERDUCK RUN. > > If any of you live in this area, would greatly appreciate trying to find > where these places were [are] today with use of street, road and highway > names. > > I am looking to find where the land was that was first owned by ALEXANDER > McCONCHIE and wife ANN before 1800 on SUMMERDUCK RUN. > > Thanks, > Amanda > > PS Tim, if you're still on this list, you would be of great help. I'd > like to know if the GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH is near any of this? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yeah Estelle! Thank you. All this just seems to be connecting. I hope my cousin is reading all this and making map for us. I'm familiar with the SCHEEL map. My cousin told me that there was a C. JONES on that map or maybe a CHARLES JONES. We have tried and tried to solve who the CHARLES JONES was that married ANN CHILDS, granddaughter of ALEXANDER McCONCHIE. I can't help but think that CHARLES JONES may end up being related to the HENRY BROADUS JONES line. The little narrative/book may provide some really good leads. I think I know the McConchie graveyard you speak of but it is no longer in existence. A relative just pointed to a piece of land off in a field to left of someone's house that was reputed to have been the OLD McConchie graveyard. There's no sign of any graves, stones, etc. but land records probably mentioned a graveyard at one time early on. When I go back in August, I am going to do more research on that property. Amanda

Dear Amanda: I am really enjoying your notebook summaries of Summerduck. Mostly because we always drove through there on the way to Goldvein to visit relatives. Since we moved to Georgia we don't get that way very often anymore. A trip to Virginia is focused in Front Royal and Warrenton, time permitting. Thanks for sharing Miss Jones book. Estelle > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maybe the J. Hackley Jones is the son of Henry Broadus Jones and Margaret Allen they had a son named Hackley Jones born 1870. June

List, I mistyped the email contact and it bounced back. So here is next part. I don't wish to violate any copyright laws and this little publication has "Copyright James J. Durnan, Jr. 1970". Does anyone have line of Durnan? Is it o.k. for me to quote information from certain pages of this publication? It's not even a book. It's pages in a notebook. There is no publishing company. I think I'm o.k. to do this but if somebody sees that I'm doing something wrong, please give a shout. Page 1 OVJ simply gives background on the "little village of Sumerduck in Fauquier County, Virginia..." "Sumerduck as orginially Summerduck, having derived its name from Summerduck Run which in turn was so called because of the many wild duck which in the summer thereon or lay upon its banks or based upon the sand."....."The RUN flowed about half a mile where Sumerduck is located on the main road leading to Remington and the Morrisville Road. The RUN flowed across the Morrisville Road, which was known to us as the Church Road, because the Primitive Baptish Church stood beside the road in Sumerduck and is till standing there today pratically the same. The front of the Church faces the main road, the east side faces the Church Road." Page after 31 "ABOUT THE AUTHOR" She was Miss Olive Jones and she had a twin brother Ottaway Chester Jones. Both born April 2, 1906 "in the home then occupied by her beloved parents, and today knows as AUNT SALLIE'S HOUSE." Page 3 OVJ says "my grandfather William Holmes". She was talking about the long and difficult trip made from Sumerduck to Fredericksburg at Christmas when the roads where so deep in mud that it was an overnight trip for mules and horses to pull buggies or wagons. "Speaking of the families which mainly made up the village of Sumerduck, for years they were the JONES, MILLS, McCONCHIES, and SMITHS. Surrounding were families of EMBREYS, CURTIS, BROOKS, HOLMES, JACOBS, and others scattered here and there". "HENRY BROADUS JONES, who was my grandfather, lived in the house called the SANTA CLAUS HOUSE and which later also bore the name of the HOUSE of SEVEN GABLES. He married the former MARGARET ALLEN who was a daughter of CAPT. JOHN FIELD ALLEN, of Fauquier Co. VA.. They had a family of nine boys and one little girl who died at the age of three years. There were three sets of twins in the family. Romulus and Remus, James and Henry, Daisy and Dahlia were the names of the twins." I believe CAPT. JOHN FIELD ALLEN married ELEANOR STIGLER who was sister of ELIZABETH BETSY STIGLER m ROBERT KING McCONCHIE, my direct line. And I also think John Field Allen was son of a JAMES ALLEN who was possibly a BROTHER of THOMAS ALLEN who married ESTHER FIELD. THOMAS ALLEN and ESTHER FIELD had son HENRY ALLEN m. CATHERINE McCONCHIE, d/o ALEXANDER McCONCHIE. CATHERINE [McCONCHIE] FIELD would have have been an AUNT of Robert King McConchie. THOUGHT: JAMES ALLEN might also be the name with LOTT HACKLEY and ALEXANDER McCONCHIE who did the 1785 estate inventory of ROBERT KNOX. To be continued...Amanda

Amanda: I know you have been looking for your McConchie ancestor property in Summerduck for quite some time. I just looked at The Fauquier County map by Eugene Scheel and on there near Summerduck is a McConchie Graveyard. It located on Rogers Ford Rd. (Rt. 632). Rogers Ford Road is off Summerduck Rd just south of Summerduck. This graveyard could be on early McConchie property. Embrey Church and graveyard are also on the map, as well as Jone's Store that you mentioned. You asked about a Grove Church. I did find one on the map (Est.1863) closer to Goldvein than Summerduck, although the distance between Summerduck and Goldvein is 5 miles or less. Goldvein may have been called Grove Church at one time. Other names on the map include: Embrey, Kemper, Partlow's Mill, Smith's Store, Summerduck School (possibly New School you mentioned?), Royall's Mill. I am just passing this on for your information. Estelle

Grove Baptist Church can easily be reached by taking the following routes: >From The South (Fredericksburg, VA area) Take I-95 to Route 17 north. Go approximately 12 miles, take a right onto Goldvein Rd. The Church entrance will be on the left. >From The West (Warrenton, Culpeper areas) - Route 29 south to Route 17 south for approximately 15 miles, left onto Goldvein Rd. The Church entrance will be on the right. Snip............................... Thanks, Amanda PS Tim, if you're still on this list, you would be of great help. I'd like to know if the GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH is near any of this?

Hey List, When I was recently up to Warrenton, Va at the Library, I found some books and two have been sent to me via inter library loan to NC. One is a gold mine of information! It was written by Olive V. Jones in 1970 and she is talking about the little village of Sumerduck fifty years ago. There's a little map of people's houses, churches, stores, etc. I think that some of the lines that June, Renee and Denise have been researching may be mentioned in her writings. I am going to begin sharing the names and relationships to see if any of you have these lines or can help put some of the pieces together. I'll give the page number with some of the information. There is one page between pages 22 and 23 that is a diagram of the houses, stores, etc. in what was called village of SUMERDUCK. I can't draw it but will start at top and work down. COLUMBUS & GUSSIE HOLMES [a house] WILLIAM JACKSON JONES [his house] then across the road UNION CHURCH, AUNT SALLIE's HOUSE [then behinde AUNT SALLIE'S HOUSE is something called THE CANAL.] Just below UNION CHURCH was J. HACKLEY JONES [house]. Nest below is something called THE BROADWALK then across the road THE SANTA CLAUS HOUS.E Below these on that same road is something called WELL [it's just a well]. Just below the WELL on left of road is MILLS HOUSE & SHOP and across the road was JONES STORE Traveling southward on that road next is TAYLOR STORE on left then off to right is TULLOS HOUSE. Next down on left is LOG SCHOOLHOUSE and across road was EMBREY MEMORIAL CHURCH. Last thing listed on left of same road was NEW SCHOOLHOUSE. I will start at beginning of the book and try to begin to construct this village that was on SUMMERDUCK RUN. If any of you live in this area, would greatly appreciate trying to find where these places were [are] today with use of street, road and highway names. I am looking to find where the land was that was first owned by ALEXANDER McCONCHIE and wife ANN before 1800 on SUMMERDUCK RUN. Thanks, Amanda PS Tim, if you're still on this list, you would be of great help. I'd like to know if the GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH is near any of this?

Well, it looks like John Cushenberry (son of Moses Cushenberry, my grandfather), and Simon Kenton were brother-in-laws. I never knew that before. , Martha Dowden and Simon Kenton 16 May 1787 Rebecca Dowden and John Cushonbery 15 Dec 1791... Moses Cushenberry's son. Bourbon County, Kentucky Marriage Records, 1786-1800 Elizabeth Cushenberry and Zachariah Ross, 10 Jul 1795 ..... Moses Cushenberry's daughter. Simon Kenton was born at the headwaters of Mill Run in the Bull Run Mountains, in what is now Fauquier County, Virginia (birthplace was part of Prince William County at time of his birth prior to formation of Fauquier in 1759) to Mark Kenton Sr. (an immigrant from Ireland) and Mary Miller Kenton. And Moses Cushenberry was at Bourbon Co., Ky. Village of Washington and Settlement of Limestone in 1786-1787 when Miles W. Conway and Daniel Boone were Trustees and Simon Kenton was there. Also..... I didn't think I would be posting on this today but it seems Moses Cushenberry died before 1792. It must have been his estate that was challenged in court. New record: Kenton, Simon..... Martha, wife of Moses Cushenbery had a Bargain & Sale (B-2; Wife's exam: B-145 & 146).... 2 Dec 1789; wife's examination 23 Aug 1790. In May 1792 the court oversaw Moses estate since there was no will. It was recorded June 1792. Anne his wife qualified with Nicholas Lindsay her son-in-law and William Quesenberry (her son) , her securities and gave bond, The original estate record is all I have and it is just a few lines in Order Book A May 1792.. it says... 'The Administration of the estate of Moses Quesenberry is granted to Anne Quesenberry who came into Court and qualified and with Nicholas Lindsay (her son-in-law).. and William Quesenberry (her son) her securities gave Bond under penalty of L240 conditioned as the law directs. I have a record from the original where it names , what he owned .. the only names on it is ...Note on Coleman Theobolds 300 Salt.. Ditto on Psar ? Burris... featherbed ,, names Dan Durbin?.. A. Easter.. James Kenney. Then... At a Court for Bourbon County, Ky. at the courthouse on Tuesday, 19 Jan 1790, Indentutre of bargain and sale from Simon Kenton and Marrha (Anne) his wife to Moses Cushenberry was proved by the oaths of Josiah Dickson, Elijah Cushenberry & Vincent Cushenberry, witnesses thereto & ordered to be recorded John Edwards , C. B. C. (Ky Genealogist, Vol. 6, p. 66) Now..... in the Ky. Gazette dated 15 Sep 1800 in Bourbon County Aug 1800 , James Kenny complained against all of Moses and Ann's children and Miles W. Conway and Simon Kenton were defendants. .... " James Kenny complaint againft John Cussenbury, William Cussenbury, Elijah Cussenbury, Vincent Cussenbury, Daniel Cussenbury (infant under the age off twenty-one years), Lindsey and Mary his wife, Lindsey and Betsey his wife.. Ross and Anna his wife, and Rachel Cussenbury ( an infant under the age of twenty-one years)... Cussenbury, widow of said Moses, deceased, Miles W. Conway and Simon Kenton, defendants. The article was incorrect as Betsy married Zachariah Ross and Anna married Vachel Lindsay. I have never understood this part except Anne lived until ca 1800. Another record: Josiah Dickson, Elijah Cushenbery and Vincent Cushenbery 150 acres on NE side of South Fork of Licking, part of the Preemption of Craig and Johnston assignees of John May, assignee of James Galloway: in the lines of Dickson and Craig & Johnston; Martha Kenton's exam by Alexander D. Orr and Arthur Lee .. I don't have the year.. Marianne Dillow Illinois

And this    http://virgo.lib.virginia.edu/uhtbin/cgisirsi/Ch9RpW2Nyb/UVA-LIB/94300126/9   --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Kathleen Rogalla <chasesthewind@knology.net> wrote: From: Kathleen Rogalla <chasesthewind@knology.net> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] John Edmonds SR, Con't To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 2:19 PM Chuck, where can I find the Blackwell collection? Thanks, Kathleen Rogalla Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] John Edmonds SR, Con't > The William Edmonds listed below as #4 is the William I seek.  However, he > was definitely not the William of Oak Spring. I have put together the > following > 1. He is in the 1810 census as William of John in the family are 4 males > besides William (1 under 10, one 15-15 and two 16 to 25) four females > besides his wife (assumed wife) 1 under 10, two 10 to 15 and 1 16-25). > 2. Two sons are identified in property tax records as John and Thomas. > 3. Marriage records show two daughters of William (cannot definitely say > it > was this William but by exclusion it appears so) one daughter was Jane who > married Wesley Brown, the other Elizabeth married Francis Rollow of > Stafford > County. > 4. Deed record of 1817 when he sold the farm to Heziakiah Shaklett shows > that his wife was Sally (I have never found a marriage record for William > and Sally) > 5. I believe one of the other children shown in the 1810 census was my > GGGrandfather William (Billy) Edmonds and another of the daughters was > Octavia Edmonds (this Octavia I bleive is in the 1850 household of Elias > Edmonds (son of Elias Edmonds and wife Frances Edmonds (cousin)), the 1850 > census Elias I refer to was known as "Captain" and was married to Adeline > Utterback.  My support for this speculation as to Billy and Octavia is a > series of letters coming from the James D. Blackwell collections that name > these folks, they fit no where else in Edmonds genealogy but are not > specifically linked to ancestors in these letters.  They all tie together > on > both sides because Francis and Elias Edmonds were cousins. > 6. After they sell the farm in 1817 the William Edmonds son of John bunch > are not found in any Fauquier records that I can locate with perhaps the > excption being some property tax records around 1825 where a son of > William > may have been with another family member. > > The Edmonds of Fauquier are a confusing lot because of all the William and > Elias names. Add in the cousin marriages and the Blackwell links and it > gets > maddening.  Unfortunately some of the previous works that are widely cited > do not always add up when court records, property tax records, will > records, > death records, deed records, marriage records and other offical records > are > found.  I have traced almost, if not all, the Edmonds lines as a means of > exclusion to get to my subject William.  Chancery reords and the letters > of > the Blackwell collection have proved invaluable resources to me in my > research to unravel this bunch. > > So basically what I am trying to prove is that William "Billy" Edmonds my > great great grandfather was indeed a son of William Edmonds and a grandson > of John Edmonds (1737-1798).  I have been told by an elderly relative that > in the early 20s there was an estate being settled in VA that named the > descendants of William.  Unfortunatley she did not have the will nor could > remember where it was from.  So right now I am trying to throw darts to > find > that document. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Shirley Starks > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 8:51 AM > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] John Edmonds SR, Con't > > > Continuing John Edmonds SR, b. 1737, Lancaster or Northumberland Co,VA & > Frances 'Jane' Wildey. > > Children: (There is conflict over which children were born to which wife.) > 1) Frances Edmonds, 01 Nov 1760, Northumberland Co, VA > 2) Margaret Edmonds, abt 1761, Northumberland Co, VA > 3) Helen Edmonds, abt 1762, Northumberland Co, VA + Elias Edmonds, son of > Wm. > 4) William Edmonds, b.14 Feb 1763, Northumberland Co, VA  + Elizabeth nee? > 5) John Edmonds Jr, b. abt 1767,  + Naomi Hicks, b. 18 Aug 1777, Fauq. Co, > VA, dau of Kimble & Matilda Hicks > ... > 6) George Washington Edmonds, b.abt 1773, VA + Mary Sophia Rust, dau of > Peter & Rebecca (Eskridge) Rust > > Notes for #4) William Edmonds, b.1763 > I believe this is the William Edmonds who built "Oak Spring", which is now > in Warrenton.  (But Virginia H calls him a 'half brother'.  From my notes, > he is a full brother of John Jr.) > > Notes for #5) John Edmonds Jr, & Naomi (Hicks) > He inherited land from his father, John Edmonds Sr.  Since Belle Grove was > built by Abner Settle when his daughter married his son, Lewis Edmonds, I > am > > uncertain where John Jr's home was located.  As far as I know, it no > longer > stands.  I only know it was near by. > > Notes for #6, Geo. Washington Edmonds: > At the death of his father, George W inherited land.  His land was north > of > Belle Grove, near Paris.  On his portion of land, were built Mount Grove > and > > sometimes called Sky Farm.  It is now the home of "Sky Meadow State Park". > > John Edmonds Sr m'd 2nd: Helen (Shepherd) Lancaster Hack > .. To shorten the email, I will have information for her on the next > email. > Shirley ............................. > From: "Chuck Edmonds" <edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net> > > >> While searching for leads on my search for William Edmonds (1763 - ? ) >> and his family, I found a Chancery Cause record in UVA Archives which >> may be of interest to others interested in the Edmonds family.  It is >> E S Edmonds >> (Edmond) vs R O Edmonds (Richard) regarding 60 acres of land in Prince >> William County.  The land belonged to their mother Mary E. Carter >> Edmonds. The cause lists several family members including burial >> places.  Mary Carter Edmonds was the wife of William F. Edmonds.  Case >> is 1906-011. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://vip.lib.virginia.edu:8080/cocoon/vivaead/published/wm/viw00062.xml.frame   http://vhs3.vahistorical.org/starweb/x.marc/servlet.starweb?path=x.marc/STARLibrariesMARC.web&id=vhsmarc4&pass=&OK=OK   Try these sites.  I believe they will get you there. --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Kathleen Rogalla <chasesthewind@knology.net> wrote: From: Kathleen Rogalla <chasesthewind@knology.net> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] John Edmonds SR, Con't To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 2:19 PM Chuck, where can I find the Blackwell collection? Thanks, Kathleen Rogalla Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] John Edmonds SR, Con't > The William Edmonds listed below as #4 is the William I seek.  However, he > was definitely not the William of Oak Spring. I have put together the > following > 1. He is in the 1810 census as William of John in the family are 4 males > besides William (1 under 10, one 15-15 and two 16 to 25) four females > besides his wife (assumed wife) 1 under 10, two 10 to 15 and 1 16-25). > 2. Two sons are identified in property tax records as John and Thomas. > 3. Marriage records show two daughters of William (cannot definitely say > it > was this William but by exclusion it appears so) one daughter was Jane who > married Wesley Brown, the other Elizabeth married Francis Rollow of > Stafford > County. > 4. Deed record of 1817 when he sold the farm to Heziakiah Shaklett shows > that his wife was Sally (I have never found a marriage record for William > and Sally) > 5. I believe one of the other children shown in the 1810 census was my > GGGrandfather William (Billy) Edmonds and another of the daughters was > Octavia Edmonds (this Octavia I bleive is in the 1850 household of Elias > Edmonds (son of Elias Edmonds and wife Frances Edmonds (cousin)), the 1850 > census Elias I refer to was known as "Captain" and was married to Adeline > Utterback.  My support for this speculation as to Billy and Octavia is a > series of letters coming from the James D. Blackwell collections that name > these folks, they fit no where else in Edmonds genealogy but are not > specifically linked to ancestors in these letters.  They all tie together > on > both sides because Francis and Elias Edmonds were cousins. > 6. After they sell the farm in 1817 the William Edmonds son of John bunch > are not found in any Fauquier records that I can locate with perhaps the > excption being some property tax records around 1825 where a son of > William > may have been with another family member. > > The Edmonds of Fauquier are a confusing lot because of all the William and > Elias names. Add in the cousin marriages and the Blackwell links and it > gets > maddening.  Unfortunately some of the previous works that are widely cited > do not always add up when court records, property tax records, will > records, > death records, deed records, marriage records and other offical records > are > found.  I have traced almost, if not all, the Edmonds lines as a means of > exclusion to get to my subject William.  Chancery reords and the letters > of > the Blackwell collection have proved invaluable resources to me in my > research to unravel this bunch. > > So basically what I am trying to prove is that William "Billy" Edmonds my > great great grandfather was indeed a son of William Edmonds and a grandson > of John Edmonds (1737-1798).  I have been told by an elderly relative that > in the early 20s there was an estate being settled in VA that named the > descendants of William.  Unfortunatley she did not have the will nor could > remember where it was from.  So right now I am trying to throw darts to > find > that document. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Shirley Starks > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 8:51 AM > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] John Edmonds SR, Con't > > > Continuing John Edmonds SR, b. 1737, Lancaster or Northumberland Co,VA & > Frances 'Jane' Wildey. > > Children: (There is conflict over which children were born to which wife.) > 1) Frances Edmonds, 01 Nov 1760, Northumberland Co, VA > 2) Margaret Edmonds, abt 1761, Northumberland Co, VA > 3) Helen Edmonds, abt 1762, Northumberland Co, VA + Elias Edmonds, son of > Wm. > 4) William Edmonds, b.14 Feb 1763, Northumberland Co, VA  + Elizabeth nee? > 5) John Edmonds Jr, b. abt 1767,  + Naomi Hicks, b. 18 Aug 1777, Fauq. Co, > VA, dau of Kimble & Matilda Hicks > ... > 6) George Washington Edmonds, b.abt 1773, VA + Mary Sophia Rust, dau of > Peter & Rebecca (Eskridge) Rust > > Notes for #4) William Edmonds, b.1763 > I believe this is the William Edmonds who built "Oak Spring", which is now > in Warrenton.  (But Virginia H calls him a 'half brother'.  From my notes, > he is a full brother of John Jr.) > > Notes for #5) John Edmonds Jr, & Naomi (Hicks) > He inherited land from his father, John Edmonds Sr.  Since Belle Grove was > built by Abner Settle when his daughter married his son, Lewis Edmonds, I > am > > uncertain where John Jr's home was located.  As far as I know, it no > longer > stands.  I only know it was near by. > > Notes for #6, Geo. Washington Edmonds: > At the death of his father, George W inherited land.  His land was north > of > Belle Grove, near Paris.  On his portion of land, were built Mount Grove > and > > sometimes called Sky Farm.  It is now the home of "Sky Meadow State Park". > > John Edmonds Sr m'd 2nd: Helen (Shepherd) Lancaster Hack > .. To shorten the email, I will have information for her on the next > email. > Shirley ............................. > From: "Chuck Edmonds" <edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net> > > >> While searching for leads on my search for William Edmonds (1763 - ? ) >> and his family, I found a Chancery Cause record in UVA Archives which >> may be of interest to others interested in the Edmonds family.  It is >> E S Edmonds >> (Edmond) vs R O Edmonds (Richard) regarding 60 acres of land in Prince >> William County.  The land belonged to their mother Mary E. Carter >> Edmonds. The cause lists several family members including burial >> places.  Mary Carter Edmonds was the wife of William F. Edmonds.  Case >> is 1906-011. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chuck, where can I find the Blackwell collection? Thanks, Kathleen Rogalla Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] John Edmonds SR, Con't > The William Edmonds listed below as #4 is the William I seek. However, he > was definitely not the William of Oak Spring. I have put together the > following > 1. He is in the 1810 census as William of John in the family are 4 males > besides William (1 under 10, one 15-15 and two 16 to 25) four females > besides his wife (assumed wife) 1 under 10, two 10 to 15 and 1 16-25). > 2. Two sons are identified in property tax records as John and Thomas. > 3. Marriage records show two daughters of William (cannot definitely say > it > was this William but by exclusion it appears so) one daughter was Jane who > married Wesley Brown, the other Elizabeth married Francis Rollow of > Stafford > County. > 4. Deed record of 1817 when he sold the farm to Heziakiah Shaklett shows > that his wife was Sally (I have never found a marriage record for William > and Sally) > 5. I believe one of the other children shown in the 1810 census was my > GGGrandfather William (Billy) Edmonds and another of the daughters was > Octavia Edmonds (this Octavia I bleive is in the 1850 household of Elias > Edmonds (son of Elias Edmonds and wife Frances Edmonds (cousin)), the 1850 > census Elias I refer to was known as "Captain" and was married to Adeline > Utterback. My support for this speculation as to Billy and Octavia is a > series of letters coming from the James D. Blackwell collections that name > these folks, they fit no where else in Edmonds genealogy but are not > specifically linked to ancestors in these letters. They all tie together > on > both sides because Francis and Elias Edmonds were cousins. > 6. After they sell the farm in 1817 the William Edmonds son of John bunch > are not found in any Fauquier records that I can locate with perhaps the > excption being some property tax records around 1825 where a son of > William > may have been with another family member. > > The Edmonds of Fauquier are a confusing lot because of all the William and > Elias names. Add in the cousin marriages and the Blackwell links and it > gets > maddening. Unfortunately some of the previous works that are widely cited > do not always add up when court records, property tax records, will > records, > death records, deed records, marriage records and other offical records > are > found. I have traced almost, if not all, the Edmonds lines as a means of > exclusion to get to my subject William. Chancery reords and the letters > of > the Blackwell collection have proved invaluable resources to me in my > research to unravel this bunch. > > So basically what I am trying to prove is that William "Billy" Edmonds my > great great grandfather was indeed a son of William Edmonds and a grandson > of John Edmonds (1737-1798). I have been told by an elderly relative that > in the early 20s there was an estate being settled in VA that named the > descendants of William. Unfortunatley she did not have the will nor could > remember where it was from. So right now I am trying to throw darts to > find > that document. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Shirley Starks > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 8:51 AM > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] John Edmonds SR, Con't > > > Continuing John Edmonds SR, b. 1737, Lancaster or Northumberland Co,VA & > Frances 'Jane' Wildey. > > Children: (There is conflict over which children were born to which wife.) > 1) Frances Edmonds, 01 Nov 1760, Northumberland Co, VA > 2) Margaret Edmonds, abt 1761, Northumberland Co, VA > 3) Helen Edmonds, abt 1762, Northumberland Co, VA + Elias Edmonds, son of > Wm. > 4) William Edmonds, b.14 Feb 1763, Northumberland Co, VA + Elizabeth nee? > 5) John Edmonds Jr, b. abt 1767, + Naomi Hicks, b. 18 Aug 1777, Fauq. Co, > VA, dau of Kimble & Matilda Hicks > ... > 6) George Washington Edmonds, b.abt 1773, VA + Mary Sophia Rust, dau of > Peter & Rebecca (Eskridge) Rust > > Notes for #4) William Edmonds, b.1763 > I believe this is the William Edmonds who built "Oak Spring", which is now > in Warrenton. (But Virginia H calls him a 'half brother'. From my notes, > he is a full brother of John Jr.) > > Notes for #5) John Edmonds Jr, & Naomi (Hicks) > He inherited land from his father, John Edmonds Sr. Since Belle Grove was > built by Abner Settle when his daughter married his son, Lewis Edmonds, I > am > > uncertain where John Jr's home was located. As far as I know, it no > longer > stands. I only know it was near by. > > Notes for #6, Geo. Washington Edmonds: > At the death of his father, George W inherited land. His land was north > of > Belle Grove, near Paris. On his portion of land, were built Mount Grove > and > > sometimes called Sky Farm. It is now the home of "Sky Meadow State Park". > > John Edmonds Sr m'd 2nd: Helen (Shepherd) Lancaster Hack > .. To shorten the email, I will have information for her on the next > email. > Shirley ............................. > From: "Chuck Edmonds" <edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net> > > >> While searching for leads on my search for William Edmonds (1763 - ? ) >> and his family, I found a Chancery Cause record in UVA Archives which >> may be of interest to others interested in the Edmonds family. It is >> E S Edmonds >> (Edmond) vs R O Edmonds (Richard) regarding 60 acres of land in Prince >> William County. The land belonged to their mother Mary E. Carter >> Edmonds. The cause lists several family members including burial >> places. Mary Carter Edmonds was the wife of William F. Edmonds. Case >> is 1906-011. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks. I don't believe this is the same John Edmonds. The John Edmonds (1737-1798) I am working on lived in Fauquier. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2010, at 4:33 PM, "Sallie Hurt" <slhurt@charter.net> wrote: > I was interested in your Edmonds posting. I am researching them also, but > when I went to the info I had in FTM for them, this was all I could find. I > will get on the ball and check my notes for you. > >> From the website, "The Virginians" by John Pritchett > John Flood Edmunds [2346.1.1.1.3.2] (-1797) married Lucy Gray in Southampton > County 19 October 1769. > John Edmunds was Brunswick County justice (1776), sheriff (1777, 1780-1), > and militia colonel. He paid taxes on 16 slaves in Brunswick County in > 1782. > John made his will in Brunswick County remembering his wife, Lucy, and > leaving land to three sons and money and slaves to four daughters, including > the now married Elizabeth Lewis. He appointed executors his wife, brother > Sterling Edmunds, son-in-law Benjamin Lewis, and son John F. Edmunds (will > dated 4 Mar. 1797, recorded 24 April 1797). " > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peggy Price" <pegprice@suddenlink.net> > To: <edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net>; <vafauqui@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] John Edmonds (1737-1798) father of William Edmonds > (1763- ? ) > > >> On 6/21/2010 9:15 PM, edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I would like to re-post about the Fauquier Edmonds >>> >>> I am looking for the family of William Edmonds son of John Edmonds >>> (1737-1798). William's brothers included Elias, George Washington, and >>> John Edmonds along with sisters Anne (Nancy), Catherine, Frances, >>> Margaret (Peggy) and Sophia. The family lived near Upperville in >>> Northern Fauquier. >>> >>> William was born 1763 and his wife was Sally (LNU). He had verified sons >>> John, Thomas and daughters Jane (m. Wesley Brown) and Elizabeth (m. >>> Francis Rollow). 1810 Fauquier census suggests there are four more >>> children. >>> >>> I am trying to link two Edmonds strays to William and Sally. >>> Specifically, a son William (Billy) and a daughter Octavia. I have >>> pretty good indirect evidence but need something more specific to make >>> the positive connection. >>> >>> William inherited part of John's estate in Northern Fauquier County and >>> subsequently sold the farm around 1817. I lose the family at that time >>> as far as records go until 1839 when I pick Billy and Octavia up in both >>> records and family correspondence. The correspondence ties them to the >>> family but is vague as to the exact relationship. >>> >>> There seem to be few active Fauquier Edmonds researchers. The family has >>> a lot of well documented information (and some not so well documented) >>> out there. This has allowed me to exclude a lot of possibilities but >>> because John's son William apparently left Fauquier after he sold the >>> farm he is rarely mentioned. William's male children are not documented >>> at all (except by me) as far as I can tell. >>> >>> I am hoping someone researching other associtated lines maybe has run >>> across a stray Edmonds specifically Thomas, John, William (Billy) or >>> Octavia. >>> >>> Billy and a cousin James Henry Edmonds travel to Central MO (after a stop >>> in Kanawha County WVA) with Mark Chilton about 1840. Billy marries and >>> lives out his life there, James Henry after a lot of trials an >>> tribulations returns to Fauquier some years later. >>> >>> Any clues would be greatly appreciated to help me clear this last wall >>> (for now). >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2954 - Release Date: 06/21/10 >>> 13:36:00 >>> >>> >> Charles, >> I descend from William Edmonds and his second wife, Judith Sydnor. Wm >> was b. 1704 in Lancaster, VA d. 1741 Lancaster, VA. I show your John >> Edmonds as son of Wm. and his first wife, Catherine Miller but I have no >> other siblings from that marriage. That John Edmonds b. 1737, d. 1798 >> m. 1st Frances Jane Wiley/Wildey and 2nd Helen Shepard Hack. John and >> Frances Jane had a son William b 14 Feb 1763 and d. 1811 in Fauquier >> Co. I do not have a spouse for this William. >> >> The only Octavia Edmonds in my records was born about 1789, the daughter >> of Elias Edmonds and Frances Edmonds (his cousin). Octavia's siblings >> were Elias b. 1787 and Elizabeth b 1791 who married Joseph Blackwell of >> Fauquier Co. Octavia married George William Grayson who was b abt >> 1787. I show Octavia's father, Elias Edmonds b.1757 d 1800 was the son >> of Elias and Elizabeth Milier. This Elias was the son of the same >> William Edmonds b 1704 Lancaster VA and his 2nd wife, Judith Sydnor from >> whom I descend. My records show Octavia's mother, Frances Edmonds as >> the daughter of John and Frances Jane Wiley Edmonds. Is it possible >> that your "lost" Billy and Octavia were uncle and niece rather than >> brother and sister? >> Peggy Price >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was interested in your Edmonds posting. I am researching them also, but when I went to the info I had in FTM for them, this was all I could find. I will get on the ball and check my notes for you. >From the website, "The Virginians" by John Pritchett John Flood Edmunds [2346.1.1.1.3.2] (-1797) married Lucy Gray in Southampton County 19 October 1769. John Edmunds was Brunswick County justice (1776), sheriff (1777, 1780-1), and militia colonel. He paid taxes on 16 slaves in Brunswick County in 1782. John made his will in Brunswick County remembering his wife, Lucy, and leaving land to three sons and money and slaves to four daughters, including the now married Elizabeth Lewis. He appointed executors his wife, brother Sterling Edmunds, son-in-law Benjamin Lewis, and son John F. Edmunds (will dated 4 Mar. 1797, recorded 24 April 1797). " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Price" <pegprice@suddenlink.net> To: <edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net>; <vafauqui@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] John Edmonds (1737-1798) father of William Edmonds (1763- ? ) > On 6/21/2010 9:15 PM, edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I would like to re-post about the Fauquier Edmonds >> >> I am looking for the family of William Edmonds son of John Edmonds >> (1737-1798). William's brothers included Elias, George Washington, and >> John Edmonds along with sisters Anne (Nancy), Catherine, Frances, >> Margaret (Peggy) and Sophia. The family lived near Upperville in >> Northern Fauquier. >> >> William was born 1763 and his wife was Sally (LNU). He had verified sons >> John, Thomas and daughters Jane (m. Wesley Brown) and Elizabeth (m. >> Francis Rollow). 1810 Fauquier census suggests there are four more >> children. >> >> I am trying to link two Edmonds strays to William and Sally. >> Specifically, a son William (Billy) and a daughter Octavia. I have >> pretty good indirect evidence but need something more specific to make >> the positive connection. >> >> William inherited part of John's estate in Northern Fauquier County and >> subsequently sold the farm around 1817. I lose the family at that time >> as far as records go until 1839 when I pick Billy and Octavia up in both >> records and family correspondence. The correspondence ties them to the >> family but is vague as to the exact relationship. >> >> There seem to be few active Fauquier Edmonds researchers. The family has >> a lot of well documented information (and some not so well documented) >> out there. This has allowed me to exclude a lot of possibilities but >> because John's son William apparently left Fauquier after he sold the >> farm he is rarely mentioned. William's male children are not documented >> at all (except by me) as far as I can tell. >> >> I am hoping someone researching other associtated lines maybe has run >> across a stray Edmonds specifically Thomas, John, William (Billy) or >> Octavia. >> >> Billy and a cousin James Henry Edmonds travel to Central MO (after a stop >> in Kanawha County WVA) with Mark Chilton about 1840. Billy marries and >> lives out his life there, James Henry after a lot of trials an >> tribulations returns to Fauquier some years later. >> >> Any clues would be greatly appreciated to help me clear this last wall >> (for now). >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2954 - Release Date: 06/21/10 >> 13:36:00 >> >> > Charles, > I descend from William Edmonds and his second wife, Judith Sydnor. Wm > was b. 1704 in Lancaster, VA d. 1741 Lancaster, VA. I show your John > Edmonds as son of Wm. and his first wife, Catherine Miller but I have no > other siblings from that marriage. That John Edmonds b. 1737, d. 1798 > m. 1st Frances Jane Wiley/Wildey and 2nd Helen Shepard Hack. John and > Frances Jane had a son William b 14 Feb 1763 and d. 1811 in Fauquier > Co. I do not have a spouse for this William. > > The only Octavia Edmonds in my records was born about 1789, the daughter > of Elias Edmonds and Frances Edmonds (his cousin). Octavia's siblings > were Elias b. 1787 and Elizabeth b 1791 who married Joseph Blackwell of > Fauquier Co. Octavia married George William Grayson who was b abt > 1787. I show Octavia's father, Elias Edmonds b.1757 d 1800 was the son > of Elias and Elizabeth Milier. This Elias was the son of the same > William Edmonds b 1704 Lancaster VA and his 2nd wife, Judith Sydnor from > whom I descend. My records show Octavia's mother, Frances Edmonds as > the daughter of John and Frances Jane Wiley Edmonds. Is it possible > that your "lost" Billy and Octavia were uncle and niece rather than > brother and sister? > Peggy Price > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sources: John K. Gott Surname: Edmonds 19 June 1759. Richard Henry Lee and Anne Lee, his wife, of County of Westmoreland to William Edmonds, of Fauquier. Lease and release, for £230. 514 acres 2 roods 14 poles, near the main road that goes to Winchester .. near Capt. Elias Edmonds's plantation .. paying therefore the rent of one Ear of Indian corn, if demanded. Wit: Willoughby Newton, Thomas Lawson, William Jett, Jun'r. Rec: 28 June 1759 20 June 1759. Bond from Richard Henry Lee to William Edmonds. For £1,000. Securities: Gawin Corbin and Francis Lightfoot Lee. For the performance of the lease and release of the above land and agreements. Wit: John Stewart, William Lee, Geo. Cook. Rec: 28 June 1759. : John Stewart, William Lee, Geo. Cook. Rec: 28 June 1759. 29 May 1762. Bond of John Bell, Elias Edmonds and Thomas McClanahame, Gent. to Thomas Harrison, William Blackwell, John Wright, William Grant and Jeremiah Darnall, Gent., Justices of Fauquier Co. .. £1000 .. condition .. John Bell on 29 August 1760, did undertake to Build a Courthouse for the use of said County .. whereas the Court .. have thought proper to have an alteration in the Courthouse agreeable to an Order of Court .. said John Bell is willing to make said alteration .. for same consideration .. to be void by performance. Signed: John Bell, Elias Edmonds, Thomas McClanaham. Rec: 29 May 1762, ack. by above. 9 June 1762. B & S. Between James Ball, Gent. of Lancaster Co. and Elias Edmonds, Gent. .. £225 .. 2,003 a. tract which was granted to James Ball, Father of aforesaid James Ball, by Deed .. 5 May 1732 .. Signed: James Ball. Wit: James Craig, Howson Kenner, William Pickett, Wm. Davis, Joseph Duncan. Rec: 25 June 1762, prov. by o. of wits. 28 July 1763. B & S. Between Elias Edmonds and Simon Miller ... £120 ... tract est. to be 1,002 a., half of a larger tract purchased by Elias Edmonds from James Ball, Gent. of Lan. Co. ... Beginning at lower end of said tract and beg. cor. of the said Edmond's patent ... east side of a glade of the north branch of the Piney Branch of the Broad Run of Occoquan ... cor. tree of Parson Scott in the head of a drain of the Horsepen Branch of the Piney Branch of the said Broad Run ... south branch of the sd. Piney Branch branch of Chattens Run ... on the west side the main branch of Cromwells Run ... Signed: Elias Edmonds. Wit: William OBanon, John Fishback, William Kitson. Rec: 28 July 1763, ack. by Elias Edmonds. : 28 July 1763, ack. by Elias Edmonds. 22-23 March 1764. Lease & Release. Between Elias Edmonds, Gent. and Betty, his wife, and Thomas Harrison, Gent. ... £100 ... 400 a. ... cor. marked I-B cor. to the land surveyed for John Blowers and by him sold to John Mercer, Esq. ... crossing Chattins Run ... in line of Edmonds' 220 a. lott ... crossing the main road & Dixon's Quarter Road ... oak in Blower's alias Mercer's line. Signed: Elias Edmonds, Betty Edmonds. Wit: Jos. Blackwell, Han. Lee, Simon Miller. Rec: 22 March 1764, ack. by grantors. 24 May 1768. Lease & Release. Between John Bell of N'land Co., Gent. & Frankey, his wife, and William Ball ... 600 a. ... tract left to John Bell by his father, the Rev'd. John Bell ... on north side of Cedar Run ... line dividing this tract from Capt. Elias Edmonds ... cor. to Capt. William Edmonds' land ... oak in line of Col. Richard Henry Lee ... land of Capt. James Bell ... £1,000 .. Signed: John Bell, Frankey Bell. Wit: John Hathaway, Francis Atwell, Randolph Spicer, John Wright. Rec: 26 Sept. 1768, prov. by o. of Spicer, Atwell & Wright. 8 October 1770. B 24 S. Bet. Richard Henry Lee, Esq. of Cople Par., W’land Co. and Anne, h. w. and William Edmonds of Leeds Par., Gent. . . Lee by lease & release . . 19, 20 June 1759, for L230 . . 514 A. 2 R. 2 P. . . near Main road to Winchester _. stone marked TL near Capt. Elias Edmonds’ plantation . . part of larger tract containing 4,200 A. devised by the Hon. Thomas Lee dec’d to sd. R. H. Lee . . the 4,200 A. was entailed which R. H. had docked . . on 13 June 1768 he conveyed the same to John Lee of Staff. Co. Gent. and on 10 Sept. 1768 sd. John Lee convyed the same to R. H. Lee in fee simple . . to William Edmonds in Fee Simple . . Signed: Richard Henry Lee. Wit: Martin Pickett, John Likly, James Craig, Joseph Blackwell, James Thomson, Martin Pickett. Ret: 25 March 1771, prov. by o. of Blackwell, Thomson, and Pickett and commission for taking ack. and examination of Ann Lee. 24 January 1774. Bond. William Edmonds as Sheriff of Fauq. Co., Commission from Governor dated 11 January .. For: £1,000. Security: John Blackwell and Charles Morehead. Signed: William Edmonds, John Blackwell, Charles Morehead. Rec: 24 January 1774, ack. by parties. JOSEPH BLACKWELL, gdn. of Octavia Edmonds, orph. of Elias Edmonds, dec'd. 28 February 1804. For: $5.000. Sec: John Blackwell, Jun'r ELIAS EDMONDS, gdn. of Elias Edmonds, Jr., orph. of Elias Edmonds, dec'd. 22 September 1806. For: $10,000. Sec: Joseph Blackwell. JOSEPH BLACKWELL, gdn. of Elizabeth Edmonds, orph. of Elias Edmonds, dec'd. 22 September 1806. For: $10,000. Sec: Elias Edmonds, Sr. WILLIAM EDMONDS, JR, and JAMES EDMONDS, gdns. of Helen, Alexander, John William, Richard C. and Judith S. Edmonds, orphs. of Elias Edmonds, dec'd. 23 Sept. 1811. For: $20,000. Sec: John P. Smith, John Green, Augustine Jennings, Sr., Robert Green. J.P.: Asa Hume, Charles L. Carter, Edward Digges, Jr. Chandler Peyton JUDITH CARTER, gdn. of Mary Evelina, William Landon, Elizabeth, Moore F., Helen, Judith F., and Sarah G. Carter, orphs. of Moore F. Carter, dec'd. 23 October 1820. For $30,000. Sec: William Edmonds, James Edmonds, John Edmonds, Sr., Robert Green. J.P.: William Skinker, James Pickett, Chandler Peyton, John Kemper WILLIAM EDMONDS, JR., gdn. of Robert and Susanna Elisa Green, orphs. of Robert Green, dec'd. 26 June 1797. For: $6,000. Sec: William Edmonds. Sen'r. CHARLES MARSHALL, gdn. of Elias Edmonds, orph. of John Edmonds, dec'd. 30 April 1800. For: $5,000. Sec: Simon Morgan. EDMONDS, Alexander & Alice T. Edmonds, Apr. 29, 1844 - bdsm: d/o Elias EDMONDS, Alexander & Sarah Ann Murray, Mar. 28, 1836 - bdsm: d/o Ralph; MR (MOR) (bride Sarah Ann Murry) EDMONDS, Elias & Adeline Sanders, May 30, 1821 - bdsm: d/o Elijah; MR (MRR) (bride Adelina Saunders, date of MR --- --, 1822) EDMONDS, Elias & Frances Edmonds, Jan. 11, 1786 - bdsm: Simon Morgan EDMONDS, Elias (Capt.) & Sarah Battail Fitzhugh, Aug. 24, 1807 - bdsm: d/o William EDMONDS, Elias, Jr., & Helen Edmonds, Nov. 5, 1792 - bdsm: d/o John EDMONDS, George & Mary Sophia Rust, Mar. 9, 1798 - bdsm: d/o Rebecca; MR (MON) (groom George W., date of MR Mar. 10, 1798) EDMONDS, James & Nancy E. Robinson, Feb. 1, 1802 - bdsm: d/o Thomas E. EDMONDS, James H. & Elizabeth V. Blackwell, Dec. 22, 1835 - bdsm: d/o Joseph; MR (LEM) EDMONDS, John R. & Helen Carter, May 29, 1832 - bdsm: she wrd/o Wm. Edmonds; MR (LEM) (groom John Robert, date of MR Jun. 12, 1832) EDMONDS, John, Jr., & Naomi Hicks, Jun. 5, 1793 - bdsm: d/o Kimble EDMONDS, Lewis & Elizabeth Settle, Nov. 10, 1825 - bdsm: d/o Isaac; MR (MOO) (bride Elizabeth Smith, date of MR --- --, 1825) EDMONDS, Theodore & Lucinda Hopp, Dec. 23, 1833 - bdsm: Benj. Silman; MR (BAK) (date of MR Jan. 2, 1834) EDMONDS, Thomas W. & Mary E. Ingram, Jun. 9, 1828 - bdsm: d/o Thomas; MR (LEM) EDMONDS, William & Hester Foote, Jan. 12, 1799 - bdsm: F. Brooke EDMONDS, Wm. & Elizabeth Blackwell, Mar. 16, 1764 - bdsm: Wm. Blackwell EDMONDS, Wm. F. & Mary E. Carter, Feb. 23, 1822 - bdsm: wrd/o Joseph Chilton; MR (LEM) (bride Mary C. Carter, date of MR Feb. 26, 1822) FERGUSON, James & Helen M. Edmonds, Nov. 27, 1843 - bdsm: d/o John; MR (PHI) (date of MR Nov. 30, 1843) FOOTE, George Wm. & Hester F. Edmonds, Jul. 20, 1820 - bdsm: d/o William; MR (STE) (bride Hester Ann Edmonds, date of MR Jul. 26, 1820) FOOTE, Richard H. & Frances E. Grayson, May 27, 1824 - bdsm: Elias Edmonds GRAY, Nathaniel N. & Sarah Ann Edmonds, Aug. 6, 1833 - bdsm: d/o Capt. Elias; MR (LEM) (date of MR Aug. 8, 1833) GRAYSON, George & Octavia Edmonds, Mar. 9, 1804 - bdsm: Joseph Blackwell GREEN, Robert & Frances Edmonds, Aug. 15, 1787 - bdsm: Wm. Edmonds, Jr. GREEN, Robert & Lucy Edmonds, Oct. 27, 1800 - bdsm: Whiting Digges HEWITT, Wm. & Cathrine Edmonds, Dec. 30, 1799 - bdsm: W. Edmonds HORNER, Wm. & Mary Edmonds, Oct. 19, 1790 - bdsm: d/o W LUCAS, Robert & Nancy E. Edmonds, Aug. 9, 1838 - bdsm: d/o James MURRAY, Josiah & Harriet Edmonds, Dec. 18, 1818 - bdsm: d/o John ROLLOW, Francis & Elizabeth Edmonds, Jan. 22, 1817 - bdsm: d/o William WALLACE, James W. & Betty Edmonds, Aug. 6, 1794 - bdsm: d/o Wm.

I forgot to mention that the Octavia Edmonds I am referring to was in the household of Elias Edmonds in the 1850 Fauquier census. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Chuck <edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I don't think that Billy and Octavia were uncle and niece. This Octavia is found in the 1850 census of Fauquier. She is in none of the Edmonds trees that I have ever seen. She was born in 1810 and in the family corespondence Billy is naming his first born daughter "after her". There are several references made to update Octavia "Tave" on Billy's status in Missouri. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peggy Price <pegprice@suddenlink.net> wrote: On 6/21/2010 9:15 PM, edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net wrote: I would like to re-post about the Fauquier Edmonds I am looking for the family of William Edmonds son of John Edmonds (1737-1798). William's brothers included Elias, George Washington, and John Edmonds along with sisters Anne (Nancy), Catherine, Frances, Margaret (Peggy) and Sophia. The family lived near Upperville in Northern Fauquier. William was born 1763 and his wife was Sally (LNU). He had verified sons John, Thomas and daughters Jane (m. Wesley Brown) and Elizabeth (m. Francis Rollow). 1810 Fauquier census suggests there are four more children. I am trying to link two Edmonds strays to William and Sally. Specifically, a son William (Billy) and a daughter Octavia. I have pretty good indirect evidence but need something more specific to make the positive connection. William inherited part of John's estate in Northern Fauquier County and subsequently sold the farm around 1817. I lose the family at that time as far as records go until 1839 when I pick Billy and Octavia up in both records and family correspondence. The correspondence ties them to the family but is vague as to the exact relationship. There seem to be few active Fauquier Edmonds researchers. The family has a lot of well documented information (and some not so well documented) out there. This has allowed me to exclude a lot of possibilities but because John's son William apparently left Fauquier after he sold the farm he is rarely mentioned. William's male children are not documented at all (except by me) as far as I can tell. I am hoping someone researching other associtated lines maybe has run across a stray Edmonds specifically Thomas, John, William (Billy) or Octavia. Billy and a cousin James Henry Edmonds travel to Central MO (after a stop in Kanawha County WVA) with Mark Chilton about 1840. Billy marries and lives out his life there, James Henry after a lot of trials an tribulations returns to Fauquier some years later. Any clues would be greatly appreciated to help me clear this last wall (for now). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2954 - Release Date: 06/21/10 13:36:00 Charles, I descend from William Edmonds and his second wife, Judith Sydnor. Wm was b. 1704 in Lancaster, VA d. 1741 Lancaster, VA. I show your John Edmonds as son of Wm. and his first wife, Catherine Miller but I have no other siblings from that marriage. That John Edmonds b. 1737, d. 1798 m. 1st Frances Jane Wiley/Wildey and 2nd Helen Shepard Hack. John and Frances Jane had a son William b 14 Feb 1763 and d. 1811 in Fauquier Co. I do not have a spouse for this William. The only Octavia Edmonds in my records was born about 1789, the daughter of Elias Edmonds and Frances Edmonds (his cousin). Octavia's siblings were Elias b. 1787 and Elizabeth b 1791 who married Joseph Blackwell of Fauquier Co. Octavia married George William Grayson who was b abt 1787. I show Octavia's father, Elias Edmonds b.1757 d 1800 was the son of Elias and Elizabeth Milier. This Elias was the son of the same William Edmonds b 1704 Lancaster VA and his 2nd wife, Judith Sydnor from whom I descend. My records show Octavia's mother, Frances Edmonds as the daughter of John and Frances Jane Wiley Edmonds. Is it possible that your "lost" Billy and Octavia were uncle and niece rather than brother and sister? Peggy Price ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't think that Billy and Octavia were uncle and niece. This Octavia is found in the 1850 census of Fauquier. She is in none of the Edmonds trees that I have ever seen. She was born in 1810 and in the family corespondence Billy is naming his first born daughter "after her". There are several references made to update Octavia "Tave" on Billy's status in Missouri. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peggy Price <pegprice@suddenlink.net> wrote: On 6/21/2010 9:15 PM, edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net wrote: I would like to re-post about the Fauquier Edmonds I am looking for the family of William Edmonds son of John Edmonds (1737-1798). William's brothers included Elias, George Washington, and John Edmonds along with sisters Anne (Nancy), Catherine, Frances, Margaret (Peggy) and Sophia. The family lived near Upperville in Northern Fauquier. William was born 1763 and his wife was Sally (LNU). He had verified sons John, Thomas and daughters Jane (m. Wesley Brown) and Elizabeth (m. Francis Rollow). 1810 Fauquier census suggests there are four more children. I am trying to link two Edmonds strays to William and Sally. Specifically, a son William (Billy) and a daughter Octavia. I have pretty good indirect evidence but need something more specific to make the positive connection. William inherited part of John's estate in Northern Fauquier County and subsequently sold the farm around 1817. I lose the family at that time as far as records go until 1839 when I pick Billy and Octavia up in both records and family correspondence. The correspondence ties them to the family but is vague as to the exact relationship. There seem to be few active Fauquier Edmonds researchers. The family has a lot of well documented information (and some not so well documented) out there. This has allowed me to exclude a lot of possibilities but because John's son William apparently left Fauquier after he sold the farm he is rarely mentioned. William's male children are not documented at all (except by me) as far as I can tell. I am hoping someone researching other associtated lines maybe has run across a stray Edmonds specifically Thomas, John, William (Billy) or Octavia. Billy and a cousin James Henry Edmonds travel to Central MO (after a stop in Kanawha County WVA) with Mark Chilton about 1840. Billy marries and lives out his life there, James Henry after a lot of trials an tribulations returns to Fauquier some years later. Any clues would be greatly appreciated to help me clear this last wall (for now). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2954 - Release Date: 06/21/10 13:36:00 Charles, I descend from William Edmonds and his second wife, Judith Sydnor. Wm was b. 1704 in Lancaster, VA d. 1741 Lancaster, VA. I show your John Edmonds as son of Wm. and his first wife, Catherine Miller but I have no other siblings from that marriage. That John Edmonds b. 1737, d. 1798 m. 1st Frances Jane Wiley/Wildey and 2nd Helen Shepard Hack. John and Frances Jane had a son William b 14 Feb 1763 and d. 1811 in Fauquier Co. I do not have a spouse for this William. The only Octavia Edmonds in my records was born about 1789, the daughter of Elias Edmonds and Frances Edmonds (his cousin). Octavia's siblings were Elias b. 1787 and Elizabeth b 1791 who married Joseph Blackwell of Fauquier Co. Octavia married George William Grayson who was b abt 1787. I show Octavia's father, Elias Edmonds b.1757 d 1800 was the son of Elias and Elizabeth Milier. This Elias was the son of the same William Edmonds b 1704 Lancaster VA and his 2nd wife, Judith Sydnor from whom I descend. My records show Octavia's mother, Frances Edmonds as the daughter of John and Frances Jane Wiley Edmonds. Is it possible that your "lost" Billy and Octavia were uncle and niece rather than brother and sister? Peggy Price

On 6/21/2010 9:15 PM, edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net wrote: > > > > > I would like to re-post about the Fauquier Edmonds > > I am looking for the family of William Edmonds son of John Edmonds (1737-1798). William's brothers included Elias, George Washington, and John Edmonds along with sisters Anne (Nancy), Catherine, Frances, Margaret (Peggy) and Sophia. The family lived near Upperville in Northern Fauquier. > > William was born 1763 and his wife was Sally (LNU). He had verified sons John, Thomas and daughters Jane (m. Wesley Brown) and Elizabeth (m. Francis Rollow). 1810 Fauquier census suggests there are four more children. > > I am trying to link two Edmonds strays to William and Sally. Specifically, a son William (Billy) and a daughter Octavia. I have pretty good indirect evidence but need something more specific to make the positive connection. > > William inherited part of John's estate in Northern Fauquier County and subsequently sold the farm around 1817. I lose the family at that time as far as records go until 1839 when I pick Billy and Octavia up in both records and family correspondence. The correspondence ties them to the family but is vague as to the exact relationship. > > There seem to be few active Fauquier Edmonds researchers. The family has a lot of well documented information (and some not so well documented) out there. This has allowed me to exclude a lot of possibilities but because John's son William apparently left Fauquier after he sold the farm he is rarely mentioned. William's male children are not documented at all (except by me) as far as I can tell. > > I am hoping someone researching other associtated lines maybe has run across a stray Edmonds specifically Thomas, John, William (Billy) or Octavia. > > Billy and a cousin James Henry Edmonds travel to Central MO (after a stop in Kanawha County WVA) with Mark Chilton about 1840. Billy marries and lives out his life there, James Henry after a lot of trials an tribulations returns to Fauquier some years later. > > Any clues would be greatly appreciated to help me clear this last wall (for now). > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2954 - Release Date: 06/21/10 13:36:00 > > Charles, I descend from William Edmonds and his second wife, Judith Sydnor. Wm was b. 1704 in Lancaster, VA d. 1741 Lancaster, VA. I show your John Edmonds as son of Wm. and his first wife, Catherine Miller but I have no other siblings from that marriage. That John Edmonds b. 1737, d. 1798 m. 1st Frances Jane Wiley/Wildey and 2nd Helen Shepard Hack. John and Frances Jane had a son William b 14 Feb 1763 and d. 1811 in Fauquier Co. I do not have a spouse for this William. The only Octavia Edmonds in my records was born about 1789, the daughter of Elias Edmonds and Frances Edmonds (his cousin). Octavia's siblings were Elias b. 1787 and Elizabeth b 1791 who married Joseph Blackwell of Fauquier Co. Octavia married George William Grayson who was b abt 1787. I show Octavia's father, Elias Edmonds b.1757 d 1800 was the son of Elias and Elizabeth Milier. This Elias was the son of the same William Edmonds b 1704 Lancaster VA and his 2nd wife, Judith Sydnor from whom I descend. My records show Octavia's mother, Frances Edmonds as the daughter of John and Frances Jane Wiley Edmonds. Is it possible that your "lost" Billy and Octavia were uncle and niece rather than brother and sister? Peggy Price

I would like to re-post about the Fauquier Edmonds   I am looking for the family of William Edmonds son of John Edmonds (1737-1798).  William's brothers included Elias, George Washington, and John Edmonds along with sisters Anne (Nancy), Catherine, Frances, Margaret (Peggy) and Sophia.  The family lived near Upperville in Northern Fauquier.   William was born 1763 and his wife was Sally (LNU).  He had verified sons John, Thomas and daughters Jane (m. Wesley Brown) and Elizabeth (m. Francis Rollow).  1810 Fauquier census suggests there are four more children.   I am trying to link two Edmonds strays to William and Sally.  Specifically, a son William (Billy) and a daughter Octavia.  I have pretty good indirect evidence but need something more specific to make the positive connection.   William inherited part of John's estate in Northern Fauquier County and subsequently sold the farm around 1817.  I lose the family at that time as far as records go until 1839 when I pick Billy and Octavia up in both records and family correspondence.  The correspondence ties them to the family but is vague as to the exact relationship.   There seem to be few active Fauquier Edmonds researchers.  The family has a lot of well documented information (and some not so well documented) out there.  This has allowed me to exclude a lot of possibilities but because John's son William apparently left Fauquier after he sold the farm he is rarely mentioned.  William's male children are not documented at all (except by me) as far as I can tell.   I am hoping someone researching other associtated lines maybe has run across a stray Edmonds specifically Thomas, John, William (Billy) or Octavia.    Billy and a cousin James Henry Edmonds travel to Central MO (after a stop in Kanawha County WVA) with Mark Chilton about 1840.  Billy marries and lives out his life there, James Henry after a lot of trials an tribulations returns to Fauquier some years later.    Any clues would be greatly appreciated to help me clear this last wall (for now).