Fauquier County, Virginia Marriage Bonds 1759-1854 and Marriage Returns 1785 - 1848 by John K. Gott WAYNESBURG, Jacob & Jane M. RUTTER married September 7, 1832 bondsman d/o William CAYNOR, Wm & Finella RUTTER married Feb 24, 1823

Jim there is a reason why these articles are being published in the various formats. They are old and no longer protected by copyright. My experience has been that they are helpful as guides only. I have seen some really bad genealogy when folks take as fact these various old accounts of families without backing them up with solid research. I think I may have seen this account of the family but the one in David Avants Some Colonial Families Vol. 3 is much better. The best way to put together a family is by reading the records. In the case of the Underwoods the will of John Upton the second husband of Margaret (?) Underwood, Upton, Lucas. Pp. 38-40 Last will & Testament of John Upton, Gent. In the Name of Go Amen I Capt John Upton of the Isle Wight County in Virginia Gent being sick of body but in perfect Memory do ordain this as my last Will and Testament in Manner and form following …ƒƒirst I committ my soul …whence it came to be decently …of my Exectrix hereafter names…And my Soul to God hoping for … my Lord & Savior …for Such worldly Goods as God in his …upon me. I bequeath and Devise in manner and ƒƒorm ƒƒollowing, Imprimis, Item I give .. bequeath unto my Eldest Son John Upton all that Tract of Land being part of it in the Tenure of John King, James Begnall, & Nicholas Morris, Containing in the Whole Eight Hundred fifty Acres of Land, and if the Said John Upton dies before he Comes to the age of One and Twenty years then I give and bequeath the Said Land Unto William, Elizabeth, Sarah, Margarett Underwood to be Divided as followeth (Vizt) Elizabeth, Sarah and Margaret Underwood each of them A Hundred Acres and the remainder unto William Underwood. Item I give bequeath unto my Said Son one Mare fole and one Cow with Calfe, being upon the Probate of my Will sett apart for him with their Increase. And if it shall happen that my Said Son dies before the age of one and Twenty the sd Mare fole and Cow their Increase to be Equally Shared amongst my Daughter in Law Elizabeth, Sarah, Margarett Underwood, Item. I give and bequeath William Underwood, Elizabeth, Sarah & Margarett Underwood, that tract or parcell of land running upon this side the freshett near Ambrose Bennetts Containing ƒƒifteen Hundred Acres of Land Except and allways reserve out of this Land Three Hundred Acres which Mr. N?? Bracewell hath. Item I give and bequeath unto William, Elizabeth, Sarah and Margarett Underwood all my Land at Rappahannock what Shall be hereafter made good upon my right they to be possessed with it after my wifes decease, for the rest of my Estate Goods Chattels, tennaments, ? ? Tenemts Heridiaments whatsoever here in Virginia or England where after my Debts Legacies and funerall rights were discharged. I give Devise and Bequeath the Same unto my very Loveing and Welbeloved Wife Margarett Upton whome I constitute ordain & make Sole Executrix of my last Will and Testament. And I do heartly desire make my Loveing friends Mr. Georg e ƒƒewdeon William Underwood and James Taylor Clerk my overseers there to See this my Will performed. Likewise I give ordain my Executix be give each of my Overseers a ring of Twenty shillings Sterling price. Likewise ordain [?] Williamson the wife of James Williamson to be ?? of in my Land at Rappahannock with these …Item I give unto Elizabeth Underwood .. & pillon Cloth to be delivered at the day of Marriage Furthermore I do by these…Last Will In Witness I the Said Capt John Upton have hereunto Set my hand and Seal this Sixteenth day of January Anno domino His to be understood that what Land … I have of in the Tracts of ƒƒifteen Hundred acres upon the freshett by Ambrose Bennetts is [??] upon Condition and the reminder Divided as before provided ~~~ John Upton In addition to the children named here there was a daughter who married a Williamson who was dead by this time. That family was also in the Rappahannock. You take this will, and Elizabeth Butler's and Margaret Lucas and you get a clear picture of the Underwoods all from documents. Margaret R. Amundson, CGsm is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic proficiency evaluations.

Fauquier County, Virginia Marriage Bonds 1759-1854 and Marriage Returns 1785 - 1848 by John K. Gott WAYNESBURG, Jacob & Jane M. RUTTER married September 7, 1832 bondsman d/o William CAYNOR, Wm & Finella RUTTER married Feb 24, 1832

Dear Fauquier County, Virginia Genealogist, Tonight I was looking at a wonderful CD from Family Tree Maker and ran into an article by Augusta B. Fothergill on the Underwood Family of Virginia. This work was published in 1981 by the Genealogical Publishing Company. He spent a lot of time and effort and work on these 34 pages. A few months ago we were discussing the Underwood, Gaines, Catlett, families. Much of the information we received was presented by the group, almost word for word as written by Augusta B. Fothergill. For several years I have been struggling trying to understand these families. I appreciate many on the mailing list trying to help me with this research. To me it is apparent that others have seen this work and copied much of Mr Fothergill's research. I must ask this question - If anyone had seen this article, it would have been wonderful to have been referred to Mr Augusta B. Fothergill's work on The Underwood Family of Virginia. I have spent many many miserable hours reading and studying the records in Old Rappahannock county and other counties trying to understand the Underwood and related families. This article would have quickly put me out of my misery. What concerns me the most is that some must have seen this article and were for what ever reason unwilling to share this information. If no one has seen this article I highly recommend this article to family members! What is to be gained by not sharing these secrets with others? Our lives are very short, too short to be spending time working on lines that have already been researched. Just for the record there are articles on the Blackwell, Ball, Miskell, Brent,Brooke,Buckner,Carter, Champ, Claiborne, Taliaferro,Combs, Mosley, Dade, Eppes, Eskridge, Fitzhugh, Harrison, Fleet, Hooe, Lightfoot, Ludlow, Mallory, Moore, Marshall, Moseley, Muse, Payne, Pickett, Presley,Randolph, Rennick, Slaughter, Grymes, Tarpley,Towles, Turner, Wingfield, Withers, Wormely, Wynn, I freely admit that I should have found this record in my research. For what ever reason I missed this work on the Underwood family. It would have been wonderful if someone had referred me to his research. I want to thank those who have shared so much information with members of our group. God Bless you all! Jim Burgess Fauquier County, Virginia USGENWEB ps - Our time is so valuable - let us join together and share information with others especially when a quick 30 second email will help another.

Guide to SNP" - Gooney Run Overlook to Indian Run Overlookverlook MCZ Photo 1028-11 - Gooney Manor Overlook

Estelle, It is located in the Shenandoah National Park off Skyline Drive. The URL below shows a wonderful picture of the area which is located south of Front Royal and appears to be skirting the Warren and Fauquier Co. area. It would be north and a bit east of Browntown by Gooney Run on your map. http://misc.eecs.umich.edu/~mzapf/photos/view.php?roll=1028&exposure=11

Could someone please help me identify the boundaries of "Gooney Manor" as it existed in 1818? I have found a reference in the Shenandoah Co. Land Tax Records to a possible (hopeful) lead on a 4x g-grandfather I have been chasing for over 9 years. Thanks, Estelle

I think "Look Up Night" is a great idea. I couldn't join in because I started a 6 week class on Wednesdays. Maybe next time I can participate. Thanks to those willing to do look-ups. Without them, we would be "one step back, instead of one step ahead". Estelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:06 PM Subject: Comments on Look Up Night > Dear Fauquier County, Virginia Genealogist, > > > Any comments on look-up night? > > thanks > Jim Burgess > Fauquier County, Virginia > USGENWEB > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz > with questions concerning this list! >

Was out of town from the time I emailed the list twice on Lookup Night until about an hour ago. It looks to me like it went fabulously! I downloaded 151 emails...and it appeared that at least 60 were related to lookup night? I especially thank those who responded to me, and to others who happened to want info on others, that I also have an interest in. For those of you who are not on the east coast, remember, we still have thousands of people without power who could not participate in this lookup night. 8 days for my daughters family, only 4 days for me and my husband. We felt blessed indeed, and hope people will remember those that are still struggling in the dark...it was mentioned this morning that Va Power had replaced 10,000 poles and 40,000 cross members, just since Hurricane Isabel hit. And they have many more to go! Tosca ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Burgess <jim@promobiz.biz> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Thanks to those who did lookups! > Dear Fauquier County, Virginia Genealogist, > > I would like to thank Chocy and June for assisting with the lookups! > > If I missed anyone else who assisted I apologize for not giving credit. > > Just a little disappointed in that we had so few people assisting with > lookups. > > Thanks again to everyone who submitted look up requests. > > Jim Burgess > Fauquier County, Virginia > USGENWEB > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Fauquier County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/fqva.htm > Be sure to bookmark it!!! > >

<A HREF="http://blackhorsecavalry.org/bravest.htm">Click here: Book: Bravest ...</A> This site has not been updated for a while... "The Bravest Man in Lee's Army" A family Historyof Robert Edward Martin and his brothers should be available soon. Includes all members of Fauquier County's Black Horse Cavalry, Co. H, Fourth Virginia Cavalry, C.S.A. "sons of Honest John artin and his wife Susan A. Fisher and descended from the immigrant, John Joseph Martin of Germantown, Fauquier C.,Va... Bowen, Childs, Ficklin, Fisher, Mountjoy and Shumate Families by Lynn Hopewell.

Thanks for the helpful replies to my Lucy Brown query Jim and Chocy. Thanks also to June for info she has shared with me in previous querys. The Brown surname info will be very helpful on my next trip to the Geneology History Library. Since so many of our Fauquier Co. families are linked, I enjoy reading every query and response on Look Up Night.. A Payne family now lives on the farm which once belonged to Robert Fisher Jr., s/o Samuel Fisher. Robert Fisher and Susanna Ball would have been this Robert's grandparents.Thomas Fisher would have been Robert's paternal Uncle. One of the owners of the aforementioned farm sent me a beautiful aerial photo of the farm.(remodeled and renovated), She hopes to learn more about the history of the home (particularly who Lucy Brown was and the children and descendents of Robert and Lucy Fisher). I wanted to place the photo on the Fauquier website, but have not gotten permission yet... Best regards to all, Virginia

SHIRLEY, EVERY TING I SEND TO YOU IS BEING RETURNED TO ME. HAVE INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU. KNOW YOU ARE READING THE FAUQUIER E-MAIL. SONDRA On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:36:24 +0100 "Shirley Simms" <Smsimms45@btinternet.com> writes: > This email was sent to me, looks interesting, > > Shirley > Subject: New Shenandoah Valley Virginia Data > > > > > MyTrees.com Announces a comprehensive Shenandoah Valley, Virginia > database now on-line. > > > > Mytrees.com and the late Duane L. Borden have teamed up to bring to > you 184,400 newly extracted names from Shenandoah County, Virginia > Cemetery Records. MyTrees.com was selected by the family of Duane L. > Borden to place their father's entire 12 book collection on-line. > This set of genealogy manuscripts consist of over 30 years of his > personal grave site and land records research. We have scanned and > indexed all 6089 pages from the 12 hand typed manuscripts. We just > finished indexing this valuable data collection and have placed it > on line for your research convenience. > > Research the Borden Family archive at MyTrees.com > > These Records are also found within United States, Virginia Records > > > Summary of Indexed Documents. > > Book 1 > "Tombstone Inscriptions, Toms Brook and vicinity, Shenandoah County, > Virginia" - 308 pages, 17 cemeteries, 3,500 names published on 17 > February 1982. > > Book 2 > "Tombstone Inscriptions, Strasburg and vicinity, Shenandoah County, > Virginia" - 370 pages, 10 cemeteries, 5,600 names published on 29 > March 1982. > > Book 3 > "Tombstone inscriptions, Woodstock and Fort Valley vicinities, > Shenandoah County, Virginia" - 460 pages, 248 cemeteries, 9,000 > names published on 4 May 1983. 42 cemeteries were copied in Page > County Virginia. > > Book4 > "Tombstone Inscriptions, Woodstock Virginia and vicinity" - 456 > pages, 24 large cemeteries, 12,114 names published on 11 October > 1983. > > Book 5 > "Tombstone Inscriptions, Shenandoah and Page counties of Virginia" > -360 pages , 141 cemeteries, 8,140 names published on 14 June 1984. > 34 cem-eteries were copied in Page County Virginia. > > Book6 > "Tombstone Inscriptions, New Market, Mt. Jackson, and Edinburg > vic-inities, Shenandoah County, Virginia" - 493 pages, 17 large > cemeteries, 13,000 names published on 31 July 1984. > > Book 7 > "Tombstone Inscriptions, Prospect Hill Cemetery, Front Royal > Virginia, and other Warren County Virginia vicinities" - 495 pages, > 22 cemeteries -13,000 names published on 19 Aug 1985. > > Book 8 > "Tombstone Inscriptions, Shenandoah County Virginia and bordering > counties Frederick, Rockingham, Warren, Fauquier, Rappahannock, and > Hardy Co. West Virginia"-348 pages, 130 cemeteries, 7,000 names > published on 27 May 1986. > > Book 9 > "Tombstone Inscriptions, Page County Virginia" - 488 pages, 76 > cemeteries all copied in Page County, Virginia, 12,000 names > published on 25 August 1986. > > Book 10 > "Marriages, Shenandoah County Virginia, 1850-1882" - 732 pages, > 4,000 marriages, 36,000 names, added genealogy, biographies of > ministers, facsimiles of various marriage documents, published on 22 > Oct 1987. > > Book 11 > "Marriages, Shenandoah County, Virginia, 1882-1915" - 5,000 > marriages, 1,126 pages, 55,000 names, 10,000 brides and grooms, > 20,000 names of parents, 6,000 tombstone inscriptions and the > locations of the cem-eteries. Much genealogy is included, published > on 9 July 1990. > > Book 12 > "Tombstone Inscriptions, Page County Virginia - Volume II", 453 > pages, 197 cemeteries, 10,000 names published on 12 Oct 1991 > > Background reading on families living in Shenandoah Valley. > > A significant number of US families can trace their early roots back > to the Shenandoah Valley area. Population pressures from this area > were due primarily to the very large families of that time frame, > and to the constant partitioning of previously large landed estates > by heirs-at-law of deceased land owners, who petitioned the probate > court for partitions of the landed estates to obtain their lawful > shares. > > This partitioning system after two or three generations succeeded in > turning the large landed estates into very small lots and tracts > which would not sustain a large family. Four hundred (400 ) acre > land grants used to be a common quantity in a great many of the > early grants. This situation resulted in only a few members of each > family remaining behind in the Valley, and this same situation > exists today, as the lots and tracts are still very small, and as > soon as the youths of the Valley graduate from High school, they > leave the Valley to receive higher education, to marry, and to earn > a living for themselves and family in areas that have more > opportunities for them, and most of them never return, especially to > be buried, as they usually purchase burial lots where they raise > their family There are no large cities in the lower Valley of > Virginia, and very little industry , either light or heavy. > Therefore, most of the 184,400 names in this index are the older > residents, and t! > he parents of the young people who have left the Valley. > > Research this valuable archive at MyTrees.com > > These Records are also found within United States, Virginia Records > > > Best of luck in your research > Michael Andrews > MyTrees.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! 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From 1769 Broad Run Baptist Church minutes: Infants received into the care of the Church: Barsheba Rogers, daughters of Henry Rogers Anyone know of these Rogers? Thanks, Sandra

In looking at my Fauquier County marriage records there seems to be a John Feagans who married in 1798 and 1835, so I am assuming that one is the father and one is the son (maybe) John Feagans & Hannah Robinson 11/26/1798 John Feagans & Jane Dent 12/29/1835 Now there is a John White & Lucy Feagans 1/12/1822 d/o John. This sounds like your John White who is marrying soon to a Feagans, according to date given in your document [1822]. If this Lucy Feagans is marrying in 1822 it more likely her belonging to John Feagans SR. June

Someone on the list asked whether there was a published list of Continental line (soldiers--regular army types, not county militias). This paragraph is from Dick Eastman's Online Newsletter. It gives the URL for Genealogical Publishing Co. However, this book is a reprint, and it is conceivable Pierce's Register is in a large genealogical library--or a University or college library-- near your home. Do some browsing of online catalogs. Also, ask at your public library about interlibrary loan. From Eastman's newsletter Pierce’s Register. Register of the Certificates issued by John Pierce, Esquire, Paymaster General and Commissioner of Army Accounts for the United States, to Officers and Soldiers of the Continental Army Under Act of July 4, 1783, by U.S. War Department. A Revolutionary War source book of the highest caliber, this Paymaster's record is both exhaustive and authoritative. It names 93,000 soldiers, for each of whom is given the certificate number and the amount owed. From a table at the front, the researcher will find the certificate number indicating the state and sometimes the regiment to which it relates. No militiamen are included, nor are there names of South Carolinians; otherwise, it is a complete roster of the Continental Army. $38.50. http://www.genealogical.com/item_detail.asp?ID=5935 One man I was helping at a large LDS center found his ancestor listed in Pierce's Register, and he left the library in a state of elation. E.W.Wallace

This email was sent to me, looks interesting, Shirley Subject: New Shenandoah Valley Virginia Data MyTrees.com Announces a comprehensive Shenandoah Valley, Virginia database now on-line. Mytrees.com and the late Duane L. Borden have teamed up to bring to you 184,400 newly extracted names from Shenandoah County, Virginia Cemetery Records. MyTrees.com was selected by the family of Duane L. Borden to place their father's entire 12 book collection on-line. This set of genealogy manuscripts consist of over 30 years of his personal grave site and land records research. We have scanned and indexed all 6089 pages from the 12 hand typed manuscripts. We just finished indexing this valuable data collection and have placed it on line for your research convenience. Research the Borden Family archive at MyTrees.com These Records are also found within United States, Virginia Records Summary of Indexed Documents. Book 1 "Tombstone Inscriptions, Toms Brook and vicinity, Shenandoah County, Virginia" - 308 pages, 17 cemeteries, 3,500 names published on 17 February 1982. Book 2 "Tombstone Inscriptions, Strasburg and vicinity, Shenandoah County, Virginia" - 370 pages, 10 cemeteries, 5,600 names published on 29 March 1982. Book 3 "Tombstone inscriptions, Woodstock and Fort Valley vicinities, Shenandoah County, Virginia" - 460 pages, 248 cemeteries, 9,000 names published on 4 May 1983. 42 cemeteries were copied in Page County Virginia. Book4 "Tombstone Inscriptions, Woodstock Virginia and vicinity" - 456 pages, 24 large cemeteries, 12,114 names published on 11 October 1983. Book 5 "Tombstone Inscriptions, Shenandoah and Page counties of Virginia" -360 pages , 141 cemeteries, 8,140 names published on 14 June 1984. 34 cem-eteries were copied in Page County Virginia. Book6 "Tombstone Inscriptions, New Market, Mt. Jackson, and Edinburg vic-inities, Shenandoah County, Virginia" - 493 pages, 17 large cemeteries, 13,000 names published on 31 July 1984. Book 7 "Tombstone Inscriptions, Prospect Hill Cemetery, Front Royal Virginia, and other Warren County Virginia vicinities" - 495 pages, 22 cemeteries -13,000 names published on 19 Aug 1985. Book 8 "Tombstone Inscriptions, Shenandoah County Virginia and bordering counties Frederick, Rockingham, Warren, Fauquier, Rappahannock, and Hardy Co. West Virginia"-348 pages, 130 cemeteries, 7,000 names published on 27 May 1986. Book 9 "Tombstone Inscriptions, Page County Virginia" - 488 pages, 76 cemeteries all copied in Page County, Virginia, 12,000 names published on 25 August 1986. Book 10 "Marriages, Shenandoah County Virginia, 1850-1882" - 732 pages, 4,000 marriages, 36,000 names, added genealogy, biographies of ministers, facsimiles of various marriage documents, published on 22 Oct 1987. Book 11 "Marriages, Shenandoah County, Virginia, 1882-1915" - 5,000 marriages, 1,126 pages, 55,000 names, 10,000 brides and grooms, 20,000 names of parents, 6,000 tombstone inscriptions and the locations of the cem-eteries. Much genealogy is included, published on 9 July 1990. Book 12 "Tombstone Inscriptions, Page County Virginia - Volume II", 453 pages, 197 cemeteries, 10,000 names published on 12 Oct 1991 Background reading on families living in Shenandoah Valley. A significant number of US families can trace their early roots back to the Shenandoah Valley area. Population pressures from this area were due primarily to the very large families of that time frame, and to the constant partitioning of previously large landed estates by heirs-at-law of deceased land owners, who petitioned the probate court for partitions of the landed estates to obtain their lawful shares. This partitioning system after two or three generations succeeded in turning the large landed estates into very small lots and tracts which would not sustain a large family. Four hundred (400 ) acre land grants used to be a common quantity in a great many of the early grants. This situation resulted in only a few members of each family remaining behind in the Valley, and this same situation exists today, as the lots and tracts are still very small, and as soon as the youths of the Valley graduate from High school, they leave the Valley to receive higher education, to marry, and to earn a living for themselves and family in areas that have more opportunities for them, and most of them never return, especially to be buried, as they usually purchase burial lots where they raise their family There are no large cities in the lower Valley of Virginia, and very little industry , either light or heavy. Therefore, most of the 184,400 names in this index are the older residents, and t! he parents of the young people who have left the Valley. Research this valuable archive at MyTrees.com These Records are also found within United States, Virginia Records Best of luck in your research Michael Andrews MyTrees.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

> My data base shows that Mary French who was the eldest child of Mason French     > and Ann Lewis [wed January 1783 in Loudoun] married John Rutter. The couple     > could have been married when John Rutter witnessed John French's will in 1805.     > Mary Was probably living in 1828 as there was a lawsuit between her siblings     > regarding their father's estate. This suit only briefly mentions her as having     > received her legacy. It does not name her husband and does that of her sisters     > so she may have been a widow at that time. By 1836 where her uncles estates     > were being settled, she is not named and on page 15 of the account of the     > Distributees of George French her children are named as the children of Mary Rutter     > who was daughter of Mason French. The children were:     > Hugh Rutter     > Ann Rutter     > Mason Rutter     > James Rutter     > Sarah Rutter     > Margaret Rutter     > Mary Rutter     > The shares of Hugh, Ann, Mason and James were to go to Charles E. Chinn, who     > purchased several of the shares from legatees in advance of the settlement.     > If anyone descends from this group and can tell me where they ended up I     > would be happy to know so that I could conduct further research if possible.     > Margaret     > Margaret R. Amundson, CGsm is a service mark of the Board for Certification     > of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified associates after     > periodic proficiency evaluations.    

Woud anyone out there be able to identify John Feagans and Daniel Feagans. Are they brothers or father-son? Notarized document reads: "White to Feagans. Know All Men by these Presents, that we John White and Daniel Feagans are held and firmly bound unto Thos. M. Randolph, Esq. Governor of Virginia, in the just and full sum of one hundred fifty dollars, to which payment well and truly to the made, to the said governor or his successors, we wind ourselves, our and each of our heirs, executors and administrators, jointly and severally, firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals, and dated this 12th day of January 1822. The Condition of the above Obligation is such, that whereas there is a Marriage shortly intended to be solmenised between the above bound said Marriage, then the above Obligation to be void, otherwise to remain in full force, and virtue. Signed, Sealed, and delivered in the presence of John L. Green, this to authorize the Clerk of the County of Fauquier to Grant License to JOHN WHITE having my Consent to Marry my Daughter LUCY given under my hand and seal this 12th January 1822. Test Shadrach Laws, DANIEL FEAGANS. JOHN WHITE, L.S. DANIEL FEAGANS, L.S. JOHN FEAGANS (SEAL). Thank you for your assistance. Regards, JeanBout@Juno.Com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Men in Continental Line (American Revolution) - payroll is listed in what is commonly called Pierce's Register. Perhaps it is in a library near you or perhaps you can interlibrary loan. It has been in print for many years, but is constantly reprinted. There may be other lists, by state, but you will have to check. This will give a list of men, some dates, and certificate number. I don't recall whether the amount is entered. I did a www.google.com search for Pierce's register and came up with this title--in a book ad of course. Pierce's Register Register of the Certificates issued by John Pierce, Esquire, E.W.Wallace

In a message dated 9/25/2003 12:29:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, primitivebynature@msn.com writes: > Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding the reversion > inheritance. I have two documents that speak to this issue....the first is > a lease. The second is the release of the lease. One took place one day, > the release of the lease the next day. I think from what everyone has said, > > is that if my ancestor did not fulfill the lease and died, the property > would have gone back to the previous owner, not the heirs of my ancestor. > However, the next day when he paid off the lease, the property was free and > clear to him, his heirs, assigns, etc. > > One issue I have is that both documents clearly mention two ancestors John > and George in the beginning....but only John at the end of the documents > when they say that John's heirs, assigns, executors, administrators, etc > would have title to the property. George or his heirs are not mentioned at > all. Isn't that odd? > Above you address lease and release, but nothing about reversion, which is different. As someone else wrote, the lease and release practice dates from England, but was the purpose was essentally ignored in the colonies where it was a tax dodge. Rather than have an outright sale of property, the exchange would be a lease (somewhat like a modern day lease with right to buy) with a partial payment followed immediately by a release of the property to the lessee after payment of the balance due. I have seen them dated the same day with the same witnesses, but usually there was a days difference which doesn't mean they weren't written, signed and witnessed at the same time. Consider the two documents as one. Relative to John and George, I surmise that both are mentioned first as descendants, but the property was to go to John. This may have been a legal point in case anything happened to John. I think enough has been said about a reversion. Bill Stribling