Many thanks to all the list members who have answered my question about dying intestate in Virginia. All answers pretty much agreed with what I thought. My problem is that Henry Rogers died in Spotsylvania Co. and their Circuit Court states they do not have the manpower to do lookups. They will make copies for you if you know the exact book, page number, etc. Somehow I need to ascertain exactly when Henry died. All I know is that it was prior to July 1773 when there was a deed between Henry's son John (of Fauquier) and Thomas Blanton of Spotsylvania for 100 acres which had belonged to Henry Rogers and "descended and became vested in" John the son since his father died intestate. Sandra

Sandra, It would depend on if the person had an estate to leave. (Some didn't.) If there was an estate, an administrator would be appointed by the court, appraisers would be appointed (also by the court), and then the estate inventory and an appraisal of the estate would be returned by the respective parties. Then there was usually a sale (or sales) of at least part of the property - whatever didn't go directly to the eldest son. At the end of the notation about the sale(s), the heirs might be listed as receivers of their share of the proceeds. If the real property was entailed prior to the current owner, then it would go directly to the next "tail" - the eldest son, or the next male heir in line, and may not be mentioned in the court records at all. Also, the widow would be entitled to her widow's "thirds", if she so chose. There may be an accounting of what her third of the property would be. If the estate was very simple and the distribution straightforward (only 1 heir, for example), there may be no record of the passing of property from one generation to another until it sells out of the family. -Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Tom & Sandra Stephens [mailto:twssls@flash.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:33 PM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Dying Intestate in VA If a man died without a will in VA about 1773, what other records might one find concerning his estate? Were letters of testamentary required, for example, or would there be an inventory of the estate recorded? Thanks, Sandra ______________________________

>>If a man died without a will in VA about 1773, what other records might one find concerning his estate? Were letters of testamentary required, for example, or would there be an inventory of the estate recorded?<< Yes, there were detailed inventories made and presented to the court of the property of those who died.The inventory was of the personal property of the deceased. Ususally the court ordered someone to view the property and list each item and give an appraised value. This was practiced in Virginia from the early 1600s. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

I live in MD not far from VA, both parents born in VA. When I have time I go through the obits in other Counties. www.winchesterstar.com This gives you access to other Counties in VA PLUS other states.

Sorry. I sent the other email before this one loaded into my mailbox. Thank you for the directions. Very interesting story. Tosca ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cpzb4@aol.com> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: Fauquiuer Co. Civil War > Hopefully I fixed whatever I did wrong in connecting to the site. > > Type in www.Timescommunity.com > At the top click on: > Rappahannock > On the left side click on: Countryside > Then go to second topic down and click on: full story. > > > > Hope this works. > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz > with questions concerning this list! > >

How about this? http://www.timescommunity.com/site/news.asp?brd=2553 This is the home page. Is this what you meant to share with us? It is for today, but I suspect one might be able to see past issues? I didn't play around on the site. Just went to google to do a search to get the link. It certainly looks like an interesting place to know about. Thank you for sharing it. Tosca ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cpzb4@aol.com> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: Check out Times Community Newspapers > Sorry, hope this works. > Click here: Times Community Newspapers > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz > with questions concerning this list! > >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. If you can read this line, your email software does not support this format. --MyFaMiLyMiMeBoUnDaRy02292000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any central source of Leeds Manor tenants? I think that one or more of my WINE/WYNE individuals might be in this group. An exception might be the Leeds Manor tenants, most of whom had a lease for their lifetime and for the lifetime of two others -- generally, their children. _____________________________________________________________________ Get your own family web site at at www.MyFamily.com! --MyFaMiLyMiMeBoUnDaRy02292000--

twssls@flash.net asks: > If a man died without a will in VA about 1773, what other records might > one find concerning his estate? Were letters of testamentary required, > for example, or would there be an inventory of the estate recorded? > Most men (and women) dying in Virginia in 1773, of course, had no estate. The records we have available today are mostly from owners of real property. An exception might be the Leeds Manor tenants, most of whom had a lease for their lifetime and for the lifetime of two others -- generally, their children. They may have had enough non-realty assets, including slaves, to require administration. Anything that is not "real property" is "personal property," which includes bank accounts and stock certificates. But there weren't any of those, at least as we know them now, in the late 1700s. Wealth was held in the form of precious-metal coins, bank "notes" (IOU's issued by pirvate banks), agricultural and industrial implements, and household goods. Families then did with these what families do now, when values are not great -- they divided them up as the law required, or as they agreed among themselves.

If a man died without a will in VA about 1773, what other records might one find concerning his estate? Were letters of testamentary required, for example, or would there be an inventory of the estate recorded? Thanks, Sandra

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Would sks please check for Lee's and Kelley (Kelly) in the available books--know its a big order but would certainly appreciate your help. Thank you, sharleen

B.L. Brown, Are your WITHERS and FRENCH families connected to the JAMES family? Thanks for your time. Velma

Hello, Can someone help me with a look-up please? I'm looking for a Jeremiah French who was in Fauquier Co, listed on 1790 Tax List, 1 wp no land. Is there a marriage records for this man in Fauquier Co.? He migrated to Caswell Co., NC in 1806, and may have travelled with an Elijah Withers, son of a William Withers, also of the same county, I believe. Also, what books are available on county records, such as marriages, etc, and where can I purchase same? Thank you for any assistance. B. L. Brown

If that wooden church steeple now in Warrenton were in California, it would not be superimposed on a wooden structure, no matter whether it was gold-plated or fiberglass. The church would be deemed to be termite-ridden (costly to rebuild) or it would be deemed not earthquake proof. Los Angeles got a VERY costly new Catholic cathedral in downtown because the earlier, very historic one had been damaged in the Northridge earthquake. Some conservationists are now acquiring it since it has been deconsecrated (is that the word?). By the time the lawsuits fly back and forth in Warrenton, the wooden church may have disintegrated!!! No wonder my Fauquier folks headed to Kentucky in its early days--too much contention and dissenion back there in Virginia!!! E.W.Wallace

Church Sues Warrenton Over Steeple Ruling By Ian Shapira Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, October 16, 2003; Page LZ03 Warrenton Baptist Church is asking a Fauquier County Circuit Court judge to reverse a recent Town Council decision that prevents the church from replacing its damaged,130-year-old wooden steeple with a less expensive fiberglass replica. In court documents filed Oct. 9, the church says the Town Council's unanimous decision in September was "arbitrary, capricious and unreasonable" and that it "unreasonably and without lawful justification" imposes thousands of dollars in expenses on the church. The court case is the latest twist in a bitter battle between the 155-year-old church on Main Street and the Town of Warrenton. In June, the town's Architectural Review Board rejected the fiberglass proposal, and the church appealed to the Town Council. Church supporters and opponents packed Town Hall for the meeting, during which Supervisor Larry L. Weeks (R-Scott) threatened to sue Town Council members if they rejected the fiberglass proposal. But the council ruled the synthetic material would cheapen the historic look of the nearly 200-year-old Fauquier County seat. Engineering reports prepared for the church said it would cost about $500,000 for a new wooden steeple, about $354,000 to repair the existing steeple and about $276,000 for a fiberglass replica. The appeal was filed by four church trustees: Rebecca Hayes, a professor at Mary Washington College; Harvey Pearson, a former Fauquier County Circuit Court clerk; William T. Miller, a banker; and William R. Benner, a retired farmer and mail carrier. "It seems clear to me that local authorities have certain control over architectural guidelines, but whether that extends to restoration, I am not sure. That's under question," Hayes said. © 2003 The Washington Post Company

Somewhere on the internet, I learned that Papyrus Publishing Co. has taken over many of the functions & sales of Iberian Publishing Co. Do a www.google.com search for "papyrus + publishing" to get the URL. I did not check the catalog. E.W.Wallace

What information is available on this: Wilson, John; of Loudoun County; Tanyard lot in Hopewell; 15NE. Loudoun County, Virginia I have a copy of the deed starting with William Skinker whose son-in-law Thomas Whiting (wife Polly) lived there, then Thomas sold it to John Wilson, who then sold it to Elijah Smith who then sold it to Jonathan McCarter. I have no idea who my John Wilson is that married Elizabeth Chinn. I am investigating various reoccurring names that happen to connect to the Chinns in hopes of finding my Wilson. Have no idea where to look. Only proof of anything is a record of their marriage in Frederick Co. MD. A house built on Pickering St. in Middleburg by her father Rawleigh Chinn for their marriage, and a deed between he and his brother-in-law Wm. Beveridge stating he was from Fauquier Co. I have found all Elizabeth's siblings graves, except hers. They just disappeared. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: <Chocybrown@aol.com> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: WILSON > 1815 Virginia Landowner > Fauquier County, Virginia > Wilson, Archabald; Crooked Run; 28NW. > Wilson, John; of Loudoun County; Tanyard lot in Hopewell; 15NE. > Loudoun County, Virginia > Wilson, Edward; Southeast side Goose CK, Goose CK; 14W, 12SW. > Wilson, Henry, see Anne Moriah Fitzhugh. > Wilson, John T; Leesburg;. > Wilson, John, of Fauquier County; 2N of Coes Mill; 6SW. > Wilson, Moses; Goose CK; 12SW. > Wilson, Stephen; 1N of northwest fork Goose CK; 9W. > Madison County > Wilson, Dicey > Wilson, John > Wilson, Liddia, dower* > Wilson, Spicer; Rovertson RV; 8E. > Orange County > Wilson, Robert, and Archibald; Hardwicks MTN; 15W. > Prince William County > Wilson,Cumberlin, estate, of Alexandria; marsh;. > Shenandoah County > Willson, David, of ?New Town; drains South RV; 15SE. > Wilson, David, New Town, Frederick County; North MRN;. > Wilson, Zacheriah; Woodstock;. > Spotsylvania County > Wilson, Abraham; Pike Run; 4S. > Wilson, James, Junior; Ta RV; 5S. > Wilson, James; Glady Run; 7W. > Wilson, Jeremiah, Junior=6S. > Wilson, William, of Alexandria=14NW. > Wilson, William=9W. > Alexandria County > Wilson, Joseph* > Fairfax County > Wilson, Thomas; Strawberry Hill, Cameron Ford; 12NE, 13E. > Frederick County > Wilson, David H=10SW. > Wilson, David; New Town adjacent Marlbro Iron Works; 12S; 10S;4S; 8S. > Wilson, William = 9SE. > Wiltson, John, heirs; Kernstown; 3S. > Independent City of Alexandria > Willson, David; Eliza; Eliza; James (colored); James (estate); James > (estate); Martin; Oliver; Richard; Martin; Oliver; Richd; > Willson, see Brown. > Willson, Talbott and co > Willson, William; William; William (3 listings); William; William. > Wilson, Capt William > Independent City of Fredericksburg > Wilson, Samuel B. > > Frederick County Wills & Admins. > Index > Benjamin, David, Georgetta, James, John, Joshua, Margery > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > 2,500 Discussion Lists!!! USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! > Special thanks to go to RootsWeb,your generous donations to > RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >