I know just enough to be dangerous in this matter--I am not a lawyer, or a title searcher, but have spent numerous hours reading records. "Fee" means the man owned the property in "fee simple." That translates into "clear title." Lease, could mean either a lease for lives, or something similar to what we would consider a lease in today's terms. Perusing the tax records (other than just 1815) Will tell. Work your way back to 1782, reading the lists, year by year. At some point, in Loudoun (not having used Fauquier's land taxes) the "owner" of a modern-type lease will be named. It all depended on who was responsible for paying the taxes--could have been the lessor, or the lessee. Theirs was a specific agreement between owner and tenant. I'll talk about the Fairfax leases in another message/post--basically they morphed into fee simple after (long after) the Revolution. Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS "Document what you find, listen to what you are told, and especially, love and respect your work." John Morris CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip" <fflat@worldnet.att.net> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:27 PM Subject: 1815 Land-Owners > Quiet Listers: > > The Fauquier site has been Inactive as of late! > Maybe I can stir up some response with this > Question for the group to discuss: > > Seriously, I know from being a long time subscriber > to this List, that we have attorneys, Real Estate > Title Researchers, Court House workers, among > others, who regularly read these postings. > > To me, one of the most interesting aspects of Genealogy > is to follow the Real Estate. > My question stems from several months ago when the > book "1815 Directory of Virginia Land and Owners" > was the HOT topic. Everyone was asking for a lookup. > > My ancestor was listed as a land owner in Fauquier. > This suprised me, as he is not in the Grantee, or > Grantor books.......nor the will books (as an inheritor, > But, he did leave a will in 1834). > > To make this short, I ordered the Real Estate Tax > microfilm from Richmond for Fauquier on inter-library > loan. My ancestor is there alright; But under column > #3 titled Estate, it says lease!! Indeed, for about 80% > of the people listed it says either "fee" or "lease." > > >To me, this does not imply OWNERSHIP.< > > 1. How can we researchers find out who our ancestors > "leased" the land from? Or paid the "fee" to? > > > 2. If they didn't own the land, how could their "Last Will & > Testament" leave their lands to the wife for their lives? > > There seems to be some type of transition in the 1820- > 1830's where the Land moved from the Fairfax's to in- > dividual ownership. Where are the records for these > purchases, homesteads, squatters rights???? I know > from reading the Court Orders that Lord Fairfax took > people to Court in droves, trying to collect rent; How did > these ancestors transcend from debtors to landowners? > > Just Thinking out-loud with you; This has always been > a friendly list, So I just thought I would throw out something > that has me puzzled. > > As always, just delete it, ..............if it is not your forte! > > Thanks for reading, Skip > > ______________________________

But under column #3 titled Estate, it says lease!! Indeed, for about 80% of the people listed it says either "fee" or "lease." Could the "fee" mean the ownership of estate? for example a Fee Simple Absolute and a Fee Tail conveys ownership. Today, most property is purchased as FSA or Fee Simple Absolute. -----Original Message----- From: Skip [mailto:fflat@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:27 PM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: 1815 Land-Owners Quiet Listers: The Fauquier site has been Inactive as of late! Maybe I can stir up some response with this Question for the group to discuss: Seriously, I know from being a long time subscriber to this List, that we have attorneys, Real Estate Title Researchers, Court House workers, among others, who regularly read these postings. To me, one of the most interesting aspects of Genealogy is to follow the Real Estate. My question stems from several months ago when the book "1815 Directory of Virginia Land and Owners" was the HOT topic. Everyone was asking for a lookup. My ancestor was listed as a land owner in Fauquier. This suprised me, as he is not in the Grantee, or Grantor books.......nor the will books (as an inheritor, But, he did leave a will in 1834). To make this short, I ordered the Real Estate Tax microfilm from Richmond for Fauquier on inter-library loan. My ancestor is there alright; But under column #3 titled Estate, it says lease!! Indeed, for about 80% of the people listed it says either "fee" or "lease." >To me, this does not imply OWNERSHIP.< 1. How can we researchers find out who our ancestors "leased" the land from? Or paid the "fee" to? > 2. If they didn't own the land, how could their "Last Will & Testament" leave their lands to the wife for their lives? There seems to be some type of transition in the 1820- 1830's where the Land moved from the Fairfax's to in- dividual ownership. Where are the records for these purchases, homesteads, squatters rights???? I know from reading the Court Orders that Lord Fairfax took people to Court in droves, trying to collect rent; How did these ancestors transcend from debtors to landowners? Just Thinking out-loud with you; This has always been a friendly list, So I just thought I would throw out something that has me puzzled. As always, just delete it, ..............if it is not your forte! Thanks for reading, Skip ______________________________

See below information about a brother of my ancestor Henry Rogers. I have not yet seen the affidavit mentioned, but here a lease is mentioned as late as 1837. On 5 May 1837, Stephen Rogers swore in Switzerland Co., IN that he was a son of John Rogers and a brother of Henry Rogers, both late of Fauquier Co., VA. The statement refers to a lease involving the three Rogers and Lord Fairfax (Leed's Manor lease - my note). The affidavit is recorded in Fauquier Land Cases 1833-1859, p. 367. And then this is wording from John Rogers' will of 1794: Item I give and bequeath to my beloved son Henry Rogers my Lot and lease of Land that I now live on in during his life and to his wife Sarah Rogers in during her Widowhood, provided she the said Sarah Rogers should outlive her husband, and after their deaths I give the above said Lease to my Grandson John Rogers for the term of the term of the lease of land aforesaid........ Sandra

Listers, I wanted to take just a moment to share my experience of looking for land transactions. Back some time ago, I found a book in the library entitled "The Fairfax Proprietary" by Josiah Look Dickinson. To my suprise, I found an ancestor listed as having a lease in Fauquier County in 1793. The book and page number were also given so I was able to order microfilm. The lease was very detailed..several pages...and included the names of the ancestor's brother and sister who would in turn be responsible for paying the rent if they older brother died. These leases were given numbers and a map was provided with the book to show the location of each numbered lease. The map did not survive with the particular copy of the book in our library. A friend checked at his library and they did have a copy that still had the map included. A treasure to say the least!! This particular transaction was later found in "land record" indices for that same time frame. One could have eventually located the land record without Dickinson's book, but we may have never known about the map. "Land records" can contain very good information at times and can be well worth the time and effort to order the film. Glenda

fflat@worldnet.att.net writes: > I know > from reading the Court Orders that Lord Fairfax took > people to Court in droves, trying to collect rent; How did > these ancestors transcend from debtors to landowners? > My understanding is that the Marshall family, with the help of some wealthy Philadelphia in-laws, bought most of the Fairfax claims from the descendants then living in England. They paid very little for them, which allowed them to sell the leased land to the tenants (their neighbors) for less than full value, and still turn a healthy profit. Others here probably know more about it, than I do -- I'm sure there are books, articles, dissertations, research papers, and whatever about the subject, but I haven't come across a good one yet.

Quiet Listers: The Fauquier site has been Inactive as of late! Maybe I can stir up some response with this Question for the group to discuss: Seriously, I know from being a long time subscriber to this List, that we have attorneys, Real Estate Title Researchers, Court House workers, among others, who regularly read these postings. To me, one of the most interesting aspects of Genealogy is to follow the Real Estate. My question stems from several months ago when the book "1815 Directory of Virginia Land and Owners" was the HOT topic. Everyone was asking for a lookup. My ancestor was listed as a land owner in Fauquier. This suprised me, as he is not in the Grantee, or Grantor books.......nor the will books (as an inheritor, But, he did leave a will in 1834). To make this short, I ordered the Real Estate Tax microfilm from Richmond for Fauquier on inter-library loan. My ancestor is there alright; But under column #3 titled Estate, it says lease!! Indeed, for about 80% of the people listed it says either "fee" or "lease." >To me, this does not imply OWNERSHIP.< 1. How can we researchers find out who our ancestors "leased" the land from? Or paid the "fee" to? > 2. If they didn't own the land, how could their "Last Will & Testament" leave their lands to the wife for their lives? There seems to be some type of transition in the 1820- 1830's where the Land moved from the Fairfax's to in- dividual ownership. Where are the records for these purchases, homesteads, squatters rights???? I know from reading the Court Orders that Lord Fairfax took people to Court in droves, trying to collect rent; How did these ancestors transcend from debtors to landowners? Just Thinking out-loud with you; This has always been a friendly list, So I just thought I would throw out something that has me puzzled. As always, just delete it, ..............if it is not your forte! Thanks for reading, Skip

I have very small knowledge of the matter (as you will discover) but is it possible that land owners were still using "3 Lives Leases" as late as 1815 ? I don't know if such leases were susceptible to being passed to a new owner via a Will, but they certainly contemplated control remaining with one of the three lessees named in the lease (generally the primary lessee, his spouse and oldest male child) if the other two died. I'd never heard of the action by the Marshalls, but I recall reading some time ago that during several periods of economic hardship (which periods fell approx between the close of the Revolution and 1800, to the best of my knowledge) that lessees walked away from those leases in droves. I have a direct surname ancestor who must have walked away from such a lease, made in 1787 with Thomas Massie, in the Linden area on Goose Creek which I think would have been within the Fairfax proprietary. I have photo copy of the orig lease, but have never found info indicating that it might have been terminated "legally" (and the ancestor was in Culpeper Co, now Rappahannock, by c1800). If someone knows of or discovers an informed discussion of this matter in this period, I'd certainly appreciate having the title, location etc. posted on the list. I find it very interesting.

Hi, have not heard from the list members in a long time. What happened? Leona Jackson - Delaware

Jim Moses Green-s/o Robert Green and Eleanor Dunn mar. Mary Blackwell--sister to Susannah Blackwell who mar. John Green--s/o Robert and Eleanor Dunn Green and brother to Mosses ( as per Va. Historical Magazine ). I think Lucy Blackwell mar. William Green--s/o Robert Green / Mary ( Patty ) Ball--he was the s/o Robert Green / Eleanor Dunn. I`m noe expert on the Grenns, just researched this line of Greens because where they lived, close to Richard Young who mar. Elizabeth Green. Jim

Jim, It looks like these Greens might belong to the Culpeper Greene bunch. There is a recorded history for Duff Green of Culpeper in "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper County, Virginia" written by Raleigh Travers Green. Wayne Greene -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 12:43 PM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Did Lucy Blackwell marry William GREEN or Moses GREEN Dear Fauquier County, Virginia Genealogist, Question - William BLACKWELL and Elizabeth CRUMP had a daughter named Lucy! (See Family) Did Lucy marry William GREEN or Moses GREEN? I tend to agree with Stella Pickett that she married Moses Green. If so when was Lucy born? thanks Jim Burgess Fauquier County, Virginia 3b. WILLIAM BLACKWELL was born 25 Apr 1713 in Northumberland County, Virginia, William died (10 Aug 1772) Stella Pickett Hardy - before 26 Sep 1774 in Fauquier County., Virginia. William married ELIZABETH CRUMP about 1732 who was the daughter of John CRUMP and Hannah TRAVERS. She was born 19 Oct 1717, and Elizabeth CRUMP died 1801. William BLACKWELL served both as a Tax Collector and Sheriff in Fauquier County, Virginia. William BLACKWELL wrote his will 20 Sep 1772 and it was proved 26 Sep 1774 in Fauquier County, Virginia. Elizabeth's will was written 19 Jun 1795 and proved 27 Apr 1801 Will Book 1 page 252. Children mentioned in the will are: Samuel, John, William, Joseph, Hannah, Sarah and Lucy. Children of WILLIAM BLACKWELL and ELIZABETH CRUMP are: 4a. FEMALE BLACKWELL was born about 1733 married MR TAYLOR and moved to Kentucky. 4b. SUSANNAH BLACKWELL was born about 1734. (not in will) 4c. JOHN BLACKWELL was born about 1735 and died after. 1780. Eldest son. He married (1) ANN BLACKWELL 15 Nov 1765 in Fauquier County, Virginia. Ann was the daughter of Samuel BLACKWELL and Elizabeth STEPTOE. She was born 2 Feb 1746-47 in Northumberland County, Virginia and died before 1777. He married (2) Judith CHURCHILL 1777, daughter of ARMISTEAD CHURCHILL and HANNAH HARRISON. Judith was born 21 Nov 1743. In Bushby Park, Middlesex County, Virginia. 4d. SAMUEL BLACKWELL was born about 1736 Samuel married MARY BRAGG 27 Dec 1788 in Fauquier County, Virginia. William FINCER was the bondsman marriage also in Loudoun County, Virginia 4e. WILLIAM BLACKWELL, CAPT was born about 1738 and lived in and died 1782 probably in Fauquier County, Virginia. William married Celia FOOTE 6 Apr 1778 in Fauquier County, Virginia. John ROBERTS was the bondsman. 4f. THOMAS BLACKWELL, CAPT was born about 1741 and died about 1831 (not in Will) Thomas married Judith GRANT 26 Sep 1781 in Fauquier County, Virginia. A. CHURCH was the bondsman. She was born in of Fauquier County, Virginia 4g. ELIZABETH BLACKWELL was born 1732 in Northumberland County, Virginia, and died 28 Feb 1817. Elizabeth married William EDMUNDS 16 Mar 1764 in Fauquier County, Virginia. William BLACKWELL bondsman. William EDMONDS was born 1734 and died 19 Feb 1816 in Of Fauquier County, Virginia. Elizabeth BLACKWELL died 28 Feb 1817 (age) 75 Born 1732. They are buried in the Warrenton Cemetery, Warrenton, Fauquier County, Virginia. 4h. Nancy BLACKWELL was born about 1743 Nancy married JAMES BLACKWELL, 31 Mar1766 in Fauquier County, Virginia James was born 20 Mar 1742-43. Marriage record recorded Ann BLACKWELL. John BLACKWELL was the bondsman. (not in Will) 4i. Sarah BLACKWELL was born about 1745 Sarah married JOHN ROBERTS 19 Nov 1779 in Fauquier County, Virginia. James BLACKWELL was the bondsman 4j. Hannah BLACKWELL was born about 1747 Hannah married THOMAS SIMPSON 12 Sep 1799 in Fauquier County, Virginia Marriage 17 Sep 1799 in Fauquier County, Virginia. L. Wharton Bondsman No Simpson in Wills Inventories 1800-1865 Fauquier County, Virginia. 4k. LUCY BLACKWELL was born about 1750 Lucy married WILLIAM GREEN Colonel 13 May 1775 in Fauquier County, Virginia Lucy died probably in Fauquier County, Virginia. William GREEN was the son of Robert GREEN and Pattie BALL. William BLACKWELL was the bondsman. Lucy Blackwell GREEN widow of Moses GREEN of Fauquier County, Virginia married William PICKETT son of William PICKETT and Elizabeth COOKE Who did Lucy BLACKWELL marry? 4l.JOSEPH BLACKWELL, Colonel was born 1755 and died 1823, Of Elk Run, Fauquier County, Virginia. ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

From Alcock's book, it appears that Moses Green married Mary Blackwell 13 Feb 1765, bondsman Samuel Blackwell, and William Green married Lucy Blackwell 13 May 1775, bondsman William Blackwell and consent of Robert Green of Culpeper for son William to marry Lucy, daughter of Mrs. Elizabeth Blackwell. Sandra

Dear Fauquier County, Virginia Genealogist, Question - William BLACKWELL and Elizabeth CRUMP had a daughter named Lucy! (See Family) Did Lucy marry William GREEN or Moses GREEN? I tend to agree with Stella Pickett that she married Moses Green. If so when was Lucy born? thanks Jim Burgess Fauquier County, Virginia 3b. WILLIAM BLACKWELL was born 25 Apr 1713 in Northumberland County, Virginia, William died (10 Aug 1772) Stella Pickett Hardy - before 26 Sep 1774 in Fauquier County., Virginia. William married ELIZABETH CRUMP about 1732 who was the daughter of John CRUMP and Hannah TRAVERS. She was born 19 Oct 1717, and Elizabeth CRUMP died 1801. William BLACKWELL served both as a Tax Collector and Sheriff in Fauquier County, Virginia. William BLACKWELL wrote his will 20 Sep 1772 and it was proved 26 Sep 1774 in Fauquier County, Virginia. Elizabeth’s will was written 19 Jun 1795 and proved 27 Apr 1801 Will Book 1 page 252. Children mentioned in the will are: Samuel, John, William, Joseph, Hannah, Sarah and Lucy. Children of WILLIAM BLACKWELL and ELIZABETH CRUMP are: 4a. FEMALE BLACKWELL was born about 1733 married MR TAYLOR and moved to Kentucky. 4b. SUSANNAH BLACKWELL was born about 1734. (not in will) 4c. JOHN BLACKWELL was born about 1735 and died after. 1780. Eldest son. He married (1) ANN BLACKWELL 15 Nov 1765 in Fauquier County, Virginia. Ann was the daughter of Samuel BLACKWELL and Elizabeth STEPTOE. She was born 2 Feb 1746-47 in Northumberland County, Virginia and died before 1777. He married (2) Judith CHURCHILL 1777, daughter of ARMISTEAD CHURCHILL and HANNAH HARRISON. Judith was born 21 Nov 1743. In Bushby Park, Middlesex County, Virginia. 4d. SAMUEL BLACKWELL was born about 1736 Samuel married MARY BRAGG 27 Dec 1788 in Fauquier County, Virginia. William FINCER was the bondsman marriage also in Loudoun County, Virginia 4e. WILLIAM BLACKWELL, CAPT was born about 1738 and lived in and died 1782 probably in Fauquier County, Virginia. William married Celia FOOTE 6 Apr 1778 in Fauquier County, Virginia. John ROBERTS was the bondsman. 4f. THOMAS BLACKWELL, CAPT was born about 1741 and died about 1831 (not in Will) Thomas married Judith GRANT 26 Sep 1781 in Fauquier County, Virginia. A. CHURCH was the bondsman. She was born in of Fauquier County, Virginia 4g. ELIZABETH BLACKWELL was born 1732 in Northumberland County, Virginia, and died 28 Feb 1817. Elizabeth married William EDMUNDS 16 Mar 1764 in Fauquier County, Virginia. William BLACKWELL bondsman. William EDMONDS was born 1734 and died 19 Feb 1816 in Of Fauquier County, Virginia. Elizabeth BLACKWELL died 28 Feb 1817 (age) 75 Born 1732. They are buried in the Warrenton Cemetery, Warrenton, Fauquier County, Virginia. 4h. Nancy BLACKWELL was born about 1743 Nancy married JAMES BLACKWELL, 31 Mar1766 in Fauquier County, Virginia James was born 20 Mar 1742-43. Marriage record recorded Ann BLACKWELL. John BLACKWELL was the bondsman. (not in Will) 4i. Sarah BLACKWELL was born about 1745 Sarah married JOHN ROBERTS 19 Nov 1779 in Fauquier County, Virginia. James BLACKWELL was the bondsman 4j. Hannah BLACKWELL was born about 1747 Hannah married THOMAS SIMPSON 12 Sep 1799 in Fauquier County, Virginia Marriage 17 Sep 1799 in Fauquier County, Virginia. L. Wharton Bondsman No Simpson in Wills Inventories 1800-1865 Fauquier County, Virginia. 4k. LUCY BLACKWELL was born about 1750 Lucy married WILLIAM GREEN Colonel 13 May 1775 in Fauquier County, Virginia Lucy died probably in Fauquier County, Virginia. William GREEN was the son of Robert GREEN and Pattie BALL. William BLACKWELL was the bondsman. Lucy Blackwell GREEN widow of Moses GREEN of Fauquier County, Virginia married William PICKETT son of William PICKETT and Elizabeth COOKE Who did Lucy BLACKWELL marry? 4l.JOSEPH BLACKWELL, Colonel was born 1755 and died 1823, Of Elk Run, Fauquier County, Virginia.

Vince; Well... here's what you asked for... At the top of the name column on p49A is written the word "Paupers" and the page starts with #248. #249 is Jas Mchoney with a note: "1 eye out"; and David Ferrell with a note: "has rheumatism + sore eyes". #251 is Betty Smith and Molly Ryan both listed as Paupers. After #257 is a note: "all of the above are inmates of the poor house" Hope this helps; Jim Bartlett -----Original Message----- From: "Vincent E. Summers" <vsummers@nrao.edu> Sent: Nov 7, 2003 11:38 AM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: David FERREL(L) Hi, While this may well not be my fellow, I am seeking David FERREL who was the earliest known (to me) FERREL of the line I seek that mostly stayed in Craig County Virginia area. Now here in 1880 is the fellow: Jas. MC HONEY Self Male W 36 VA Laborer VA VA David FERRELL Other Male W 77 IRE Laborer IRE IRE Marshall, Fauquier, Virginia 1255364 T9-1364 49A Now David had been married to an Elizabeth SMITH. What a curiosity it was when I found *this* fellow to have for a neighbor: Betty SMITH Self Female W 55 VA VA VA Molly RYAN Other Female W 27 VA VA VA Marshall, Fauquier, Virginia 1255364 T9-1364 49A Notice it is on the same census page! I am wondering if it was, indeed, not the same family, as the LDS stuff has been wrong before in just this way... Then again, separating couples would sometimes still be quite close to each other as neighbors... Can you tell me if you see this pair in 1870? Thanks, Vince Summers ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz with questions concerning this list!

Hi, While this may well not be my fellow, I am seeking David FERREL who was the earliest known (to me) FERREL of the line I seek that mostly stayed in Craig County Virginia area. Now here in 1880 is the fellow: Jas. MC HONEY Self Male W 36 VA Laborer VA VA David FERRELL Other Male W 77 IRE Laborer IRE IRE Marshall, Fauquier, Virginia 1255364 T9-1364 49A Now David had been married to an Elizabeth SMITH. What a curiosity it was when I found *this* fellow to have for a neighbor: Betty SMITH Self Female W 55 VA VA VA Molly RYAN Other Female W 27 VA VA VA Marshall, Fauquier, Virginia 1255364 T9-1364 49A Notice it is on the same census page! I am wondering if it was, indeed, not the same family, as the LDS stuff has been wrong before in just this way... Then again, separating couples would sometimes still be quite close to each other as neighbors... Can you tell me if you see this pair in 1870? Thanks, Vince Summers

Dear Listers, And here I thought I was the only one not recieving anything? Jim is everything okay with the email list? Regards, Rebecca Bashaw

I had wondered the same thing.

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If you need to check for messages sent to the list, to see if you have missed any, go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/VAFAUQUI Only 4 messages have been sent to the Fauquier list in November. Pat Duncan p.duncan@worldnet.att.net Vrgfdonna@aol.com wrote: > I had wondered the same thing. > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Fauquier County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/fqva.htm > Be sure to bookmark it!!! > >

Bev, Here is part of what it says on the www.bop.gov website: oh! it wouldn't paste for me! So click on the website above, go to inmate locator, then drop down about 2/3 of the page to "How do I find inmates released before 1982." That gives you an address to write to. ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Evans <rbevans1@cox.net> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:04 PM Subject: Federal Penitentiary > About 1937 a relative was sent to the Federal Penitentiary in Petersburg, VA for bootlegging and was kept there about a year. Does anyone know how I might find our about his prison record? Just curious about his length of imprisonment and how they worded the exact reason for his incarceration. I believe this prison is in Fauquier Co. Is it still in existence? Any information will help. > > Beverly > rbevans1@cox.net > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Fauquier County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/fqva.htm > Be sure to bookmark it!!! > >

In order to try to obtain records that may be held by other than the National Archives (which generally has its own forms to request documents), try a www.google.search for terms such as Freedom of Information Act. There is a charge for these records, but perhaps the person interested in Federal Penitentiary records could use such a form. Investigative reporters use requests under the Freedom of Information Act for much of their research. We genealogists are also investigative reporters--we report on our families, warts and all! E.W.Wallace