I have some info on the Sylvester WELCH line from Northumberland Co, VA through Fauquier Co, VA to Hampshire, then Harrison Co, VA. Do you intersect with this line? Jim Bartlett jimbartlett@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Davis <msealock32@msn.com> Sent: Nov 26, 2003 10:33 AM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Researching Riley/Smoot/Foster/Welch As usual. I hope someone has something on any of these families from about 1803 on up. I am stumped on my ancestor Spencer Riley. Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving. We have 18 inches of snow here in Minnesota. ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== 2,500 Discussion Lists!!! USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! Special thanks to go to RootsWeb,your generous donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222

Jim, Some 1815 Fauquier County Landowners: WELCH, Alexander; Carters Run; 12NW. WELCH, Sylvester, Junior; Broad Run; 12NW. WELCH, Sylvester; Thoroughfare MTN; 9NE. RILEY, Thomas; Bee Branch; 10NW. SMOOT, Edward; Thumb Run; 20NW. SMOOT, John; Thumb Run; 20NW. FOSTER, Isaac; Little RV; 12NW. Happy Thanksgiving, Chocy

Hi Jim, 1815 Landowners for Fauquier County, Virginia: ROSS, James, of Fredericksburg; Elk Run; 15E. ROSS, John; Deep Run; 25SE. JAMISON, Enoch=23NE. Happy Thanksgiving, Chocy

I have some info on the Sylvester WELCH line from Northumberland Co, VA through Fauquier Co, VA to Hampshire, then Harrison Co, VA. Do you intersect with this line? Jim Bartlett jimbartlett@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Davis <msealock32@msn.com> Sent: Nov 26, 2003 10:33 AM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Researching Riley/Smoot/Foster/Welch As usual. I hope someone has something on any of these families from about 1803 on up. I am stumped on my ancestor Spencer Riley. Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving. We have 18 inches of snow here in Minnesota. ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== 2,500 Discussion Lists!!! USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! Special thanks to go to RootsWeb,your generous donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222

Hi Ilene, 1815 Landowners for Fauqier County, VA: HUNTER; none. TRIPLETT, John H; Thumb Run; 20NW. TRIPLETT, William; Ceder Run; 14NE. SANDERS, James, Junior=7NW. SANDERS, James, Senior=8NW. SANDERS, Larkin, agent for Gabriel SANDERS decd=7NW. SANDERS, Larkin; Pignutt Ridge; 4NW. SAUNDERS, Alman* SAUNDERS, John ; Salem;. BOGARD; none. HARDGRAVE; none. POWELL, Burr, of Loudoun County; Little RV; 18NE. POWELL, Levin, decd; Hopewell; 12NW. ONEAL/ONEIL; none NEAL, Joseph=15NW. NEAL, Mathew; Thumb Run; 21NW. COGHILL; none. Happy Thanksgiving, Chocy

Hi Jim, Fauquier County, VA 1815 Landowners lists: CURTIS, Elisha; Carters Run; 12NW. CURTIAL, John, decd=6NE. Chocy

Hi Carol, I am not researching the following families; but thought this might help you locate the family of James Bryant Moore and Elizabeth Palmer. In 1815, there were no MOORE, PALMER or HOUGHTON landowners listed for Fauquier County. In 1815, the following landowners were listed for Loudoun County. MOORE, James; and co; Kittoctan CK, Factory Lott; 8NW. MOORE, James; Waterford;. MOORE, Joseph; Mountain RD; 12SW. MOORE, Morris; SE of Blue Ridge; 18W. MOORE, Saml; 3 and 1/2 SE of Blue Ridge; 13W. MOORE, William; SE side of Blue Ridge; 16W. PALMER, Abel; 2SE of Blue Ridge; 18W. PALMER, David; north of Short Hill; 16NW. PALMER, John; Waterford;. PALMER, Philip; Mountain RD; 16S. PALMER, William, administrator; 1/2 N of Beaver Dam; 9W. No Houghtons (Example: 16NW would mean 16 miles northwest of the county courthouse at Leesburg, Loudoun County, VA to figure the location of the property) Chocy

Hi Jim, Welcome back, we missed you! Sorry to put you back to work; but GLAD to have you feeling much better in time for Thanksgiving and all the coming holiday festivities. How can we automatically formatted VAFAUQU in the subject line before each subject in the header? Most lists have this which lets us know where the message is coming before we open it. Usually, I can tell when something is Spam; but lately the spammers are picking up on frequently used phrases from my different lists to get me to open their mail. With all the blockers, I guess they are perfecting their techniques! I will keep you in my prayers for your continued recovery and that you will get stronger each day. Warm regards, Chocy RUTTER-RITTER-RETTER-RATTER-REIGHTER-HENRY

As usual. I hope someone has something on any of these families from about 1803 on up. I am stumped on my ancestor Spencer Riley. Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving. We have 18 inches of snow here in Minnesota.

I am working on the Tiller line. We have three individuals located in Fauquier: Benjamin Tiller -- witness/proofs a will of a John Hindall, Sr (18 Apr 1829, 28 Sep 1829), Martha Lee (Patsy) Tiller -- (born ca. 1798) married James Carter James, on October 26, 1820. Lived at Harmony Grove, Fauquier County, VA. James Carter (born 12-18-1796) had at least one brother, Tom. Nancy Tiller (born ca. 1803) -- married William Curtis, January 22, 1824 Jim Tiller

Here are some of my family names in the VA area. Some are my "Brick Walls". Elijah and Israel HUNTER, Francis TRIPLETT, John SANDERS, Cornelius BOGARD, Peter HARDGRAVE, Ambrose and John POWELL, Mary O'Neal/O'Neil, Mary and Margaret COGHILL. Any help on these families would be appreciated. Ilene Jones

I am looking for the COONS family that traveled through Fauquier county in the middle 1700's. May have intermarried with a Price family there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: Back Again! > Let's have a roll call to see how the new members are related! > > Thanks > Jim Burgess > Fauquier County, Virginia > > > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Fauquier County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/fqva.htm > Be sure to bookmark it!!! > >

Dear Fauquier County, Virginia Genealogist, Well I went back to the hospital again on October 14, 2003. Same operation as last October November. Will not bother you with the gory details. Getting old is not for sissy's. I am beginning to hate October and November. About 90% normal which is good for me. I sent the hard copy Blackwell Booklet to Libby Baker for review. She received it today. I believe it was about 230 pages. Blackwell, Crump, Keith are the main families included. Libby wrote the Chapter on the Keith family and I wrote the chapter on the Crump and Blackwell families. Libby has done a lot of work editing the Blackwell Chapters. I sure appreciate her contribution. Have some work to do on the Crump family. Would love to find Crump relatives - would like to exchange Crump information. Now working on the Moffett Booklet! 45 pages of Moffett Family Information! Anyone related to the Moffett Family in any way? Please correspond. May do the look up night in January if there is an interest. Need more commitments from others to assist with the look ups. You have two months to think about it. We have had several folks join the mailing list in the last month. As of this moment we have 447 members on the mailing list. Let's have a roll call to see how the new members are related! Thanks Jim Burgess Fauquier County, Virginia

I found this on a web site and thought I would share it. Many have asked these questions. Women's Rights: In colonial Virginia a woman by marrying became "one body" with her husband (Matthew 19, verses 5-6). Together with "wives be subject to your husbands" (Ephesians 5, verses 22-24), these dictums were the basis of English law and continued as American law well into the 19th century. The result was that the rights of a married women were severely restricted, with certain exceptions, she was not allowed to own land in her own right nor to make a will. Any real property that she brought to a marriage automatically became her husbands, unless she had insisted on a prenuptial agreement signed before the marriage took place... Even after she was widowed and had received a life interest in a specific third of her late husband's land following a division of the estate made by court-appointed commissioners, she had no say as to whom it would pass after she was gone. She could not sue in a court of law other than by the same "next friend" procedure provided for minors and the mentally incompetent. She had no legal say over who would be the guardian of their minor children after her husband had died or what religion the would be raised in, if her husband's will had provisos to those effects. If her husband had been too poor to assure that she and her children were not gong to become a public charge, she had no power to prevent the children from being taken away from her and bound out to a stranger. Only if a woman was an adult and unmarried, either as a widow or never a bride, could she sue in court, act as an executrix or administratrix, be officially designated as the guardian of her children, enter into contracts including indenture of servants, own slaves, sell or buy land, or obtain an ordinary license. If a servant, shoe could take direct court action against her master for ill treatment or his not abiding by the terms of the indenture. Whether or not she was married, she could witness documents and testify freely in court about them. Obviously she couldn't vote, serve on a jury, or hold any public office. Servants: Per 1705 law children imported to the Colony were to be brought to court by their masters within to have their ages judged. If they did not have an indenture and were over 19, they were to serve only 5 years, and if under 19, only until they were 24. If their age had not been officially adjudged, they would serve only five years. Freedom dues given on completion of servitude were fixed at "10 bushels Indian Corn, 30 shillings in money or goods, one well fixed musket or fusee of the value of at least 20 shillings." Women were to receive 15 bushels of corn and 40 shillings.

Could you please look to see if the surname "Sisk" appears in Culpeper, Orange, Fauquier and Madison Counties in the 1815 Landowners Book. Thank you so much. Sharon Sisk Ponton _________________________________________________________________ Say “goodbye” to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)

I am looking for the following from Illinois and/or Virginia John M. Wilson b. 1811 near Bull Run Prince Wm. Co Mary E. Wilson sister Parents Jacob Wilson and Margaret King (mother nee Kearney related to Gen. Phil Kearney) Cousin to Jacob was Judge William Wilson b. 1794 in Loudoun Co. and became Illinois Supreme Court Justice Ruth Wilson Dillon that wrote the Chinn Book is the granddaughter of Harriet Lucy Wilson and Charles James Fox Wilson. Charles was the son of Judge William Wilson and Harriet was the daughter of John Stretchley Wilson son of John Wilson and Elizabeth Chinn. MY BRICK WALL In the Wilson Story also by Ruth Dillon about my brick wall John Wilson, it talks about a letter and "your Uncle Jacob Wilson" and also says there was a Jacob Wilson in early Carmi that married a King but no relationship was established as of then. One of Judge Wilson's boys wrote to his mother about "Cousin Lucy Crebs" This Lucy Crebs is the daughter of John Wilson my brick wall. I believe John and Jacob Wilson are brothers and the father would be William Wilson. There is a mention that there might be an Uncle Silas but don't know if that is a Wilson or not. I believe they had a brother William. So Judge William Wilson is their nephew. I think that could be brother William's son. Whoever his father was he died when Jg. William was young leaving mom and another brother. He was b. 1794 in Loudoun Co. It is said the Jacob Wilson's family came from Pennsylvania. Jacob lived in PW Co. and that is where John was born. Then they moved to Jefferson Co. Va. (W.Va) and onward to White Co. IL in 1828 spending the winter with cousin Judge William Wilson. These boys are related, hoping someone knows something. Janean

Jim, do you have anything for the MURRAY family listed in the Will Book below? I've snipped the other data. John WOODCOCK, guardian, was the husband of Frances RUST, widow of a SHEARMAN. I believe it was a 2nd marriage for both. She was the sister of my direct Benedict RUST. Mr. Woodcock and Frances Rust had no children together. He may have had children from a first marriage. I'm collecting information for Murrays, hoping to connect them to a Morrey line who became Murray in Pennsylvania. Thanks.. Shirley Starks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bartlett" <jimbartlett@mindspring.com> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> > Chocy; > > Thank you very much - you provided more than I asked for and it is all valuable to me. I had the first 2 wills, but the rest is all new info. My offer is still open to share the considerable info I have amassed about these surnames with anyone who is working any of these lines. > > Thanks again; > > Jim Bartlett > -----Original Message----- > From: Chocybrown@aol.com > Frederick Co., VA/ Will Book No. 8, 1804-1810 > MURRAY, George > Orphan's accounts: 2 Feb 1807 > Guardian: John WOODCOCK > Orphans: George MURRAY, Jane BRYARLY wife of David BRYARLY, Polly MURRAY and > Cyrus MURRAY > Examiners: Sam BRYARLY, George Catlett and Oliver FRENSTON

Chocy; Thank you very much - you provided more than I asked for and it is all valuable to me. I had the first 2 wills, but the rest is all new info. My offer is still open to share the considerable info I have amassed about these surnames with anyone who is working any of these lines. Thanks again; Jim Bartlett -----Original Message----- From: Chocybrown@aol.com Sent: Nov 20, 2003 7:00 PM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: BARTLETT, BARTLEY, BARKLEY, BERKLEY Jim Bartlett Gaithersburg, MD "1815 Directory of Virginia Landowners (and Gazetteer)" Volume Four: Northern Virginia Abstracted by Roger G. Ward (of Lubbock, Texas) Iberian Publishing Company (1999); Athens, Georgia Culpeper County BURKLEY, Samuel; his mill; 21NW. Fairfax County BARTLETT, Andrew, of Alexandria; Occoquan; 15SW. BERKLEY, Benjamin; Little Rockey Run; 4 and ½ SW. BERKLEY, George N; Piney Branch; 4 and ½ SW. BERKLEY, John L, of Loudoun County; Elk Lick and Cub Run; 10NW. Frederick County BERKLEY, Richard=9NE. BERKLEY, Robert; north side Shenandoah RV, Smoke Town;. BRYARTY, Ann=8SW. BRYARTY, Samuel, one of Carters lots on Opecken; 7SE, 9S. BRYERLEY, Robert; Applepye Ridge; 4NW. Loudoun County BARTLETT, Saml, of Kentucky; Blue Ridge; 20W. BERKLEY, George; life-Broad Run, Broad Run and Horsepen Run; 13S. BERKLEY, John L, life; Little River Turnpike RD and Springfield RD; 14?S. BERKLEY, Scarlett, heirs, of Kentucky=10S. BERKSLEY, Thomas; Leesburg;. BLAKELEY, William; 3SE of Blue Ridge; 16W. Madison County BLAKEY, Mary, widow of Churchill BLAKEY, life; Rapid Ann Meeting House; 6SW. Orange County BLAKEY, William; under the Blue Ridge at foot of Daniels MTN, Blue Run; 26W. Prince William County BERKLEY, Lewis, of Berkley County; Bull Run; 23NW. Rockingham County BLAKELY, William; New Haven; 12SE. Frederick County, VA/ Will Book No. 9, 1810-1816. DAVIS, William Nuncupative Will. Presented 6 June 1815/31 July 1815 Wife: Margaret DAVIS Children: Elizabeth BARTLETT only one named. Exrs: Baalis DAVIS, John GILKISON, David TIMBERLAKE, James DAVIS. Wit: James DAVIS, Elizabeth DAVIS Presented 6 Jun 1815 and following people ordered to appear to contest said will if they so chose: Margaret DAVIS, widow of said William DAVIS, Stephen DAVIS, James DAVIS, Henry BARTLETT and his wife Elizabeth, John GILKISON and his wife Lucy, David TIMBERLAKE and his wife Polly, William DAVIS and his wife Peggy, and Sarah SOWERS, legal heirs of William DAVIS. Heirs failed to appear, so will was recorded 31 July 1815. (page 425-428) Frederick County, Virginia Marriages DAVIS, Elizabeth married BARTLETT, Henry, 2 Jan 1799. LAUBINGER, Barbara Will: 19 Feb 1808/7 Mar 1810 Children: Michael, Catherine (wife of Henry BRINKER), Rosana (widow of William CAMPBELL) and Susanna (wife of John BARTLETT) Granddaughter Barbara, daughter of John LAUBINGER. Exr: "the person in whose hands this will may be deposited at the time of my death" Wit: James REILY, George HARRISON (page 523-524) Frederick Co., VA/ Will Book No. 8, 1804-1810 MURRAY, George Orphan's accounts: 2 Feb 1807 Guardian: John WOODCOCK Orphans: George MURRAY, Jane BRYARLY wife of David BRYARLY, Polly MURRAY and Cyrus MURRAY Examiners: Sam BRYARLY, George Catlett and Oliver FRENSTON ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== Visit the Fauquier County USGenWeb Home Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/fqva.htm Be sure to bookmark it!!!

Dear Fauquier County List; I am sending this look-up, because this is my brick wall. My gggggrandfather was a William Thomas LEE, b 18, Mar 1821, in Fauquier County, VA. He married a Margaret Ann WATTS on 29, Sep 1847, in Fauquier County VA., they then moved to St. Louis County MO. I have a copy of their marriage bond, but I do not know who His parents were or what city they lived in. Does anyone on this list recognize these names??? I also have them in the census of MO for 1850, but anything earlier I can't find !!! Thanks for any help at all! Kathy Sivils

Glen, There was no Clark County in 1815, it was taken from Frederick County, VA in 1836. Rockingham Co. Cline, Conrad; Faughts Branch; 8S. Cline, John; Dry Run; 7SW. Cline, George; branch Cooks CK, Chesnut Ridge, Pine Hill; 2SW, 2E, 3S. Cline, Henry, estate; Tunaces CK, Brocks Gap; 18N. Kline, Frederick; Linville CK, Pine Flat, North Shenandoah RV; 6 and 1/2 NE, 14NE, 13 and 1/2 NE and 15NE. Shenandoah Co Cline, Gasper; North RV; 7S. Cline, Henry; Stoney CK, 16W. Cline, John; North MTN; 5N. Cline, Michael; Narrow Passage; 4W. Clinetinch, Michael; Narrow Passage; 4W. Frederick Co. Kline, Adam; New Town;. Kline, Angleheart; Middle Town;. Kline, Anthony, Senior; New Town near Stephensburg; 8SW. Kline, Anthony=10S. Kline, Gasper; New Town;. Kline, Jacob, Junior; Front Royal;. Kline, Jacob, Senior; headwaters West Run, Pine Hills; 10S. Loudoun Co. Cline, Christopher: Leesburg. Cline, John A; Leesburg;. Cline, William; Leesburg;. Klein, Lewis; Waterford;. "The German Element Of The Shenandoah Valley of Virginia" by John W. Wayland Page 126 Only a few of the early leaders of the Dunkers in Virginia were educated men; but many of them were strong in Christian character and well furnished unto good works. One hesitates to mention names, for the reason that others just as worthy may be overlooked; but the writer has heard the following often spoken of as men who loved their fellow men and did much, often through great sacrifice, to serve them: In Augusta County, Daniel Yount and Johna A. Cline; ; in Rockingham, Peter Nead, John Kline, ----------------------------------------------------------Concerning Nead, Kagey, and Kline, a few more words may be allowed.-----------------------------------Elder John Kline (c 1800-June 15, 1864) was perhaps the most active and influential church worker the Valley of Virginia Dunkers have ever had among them. He lived near Broadway, but his labors extended west, north, and northwest, across the mountains and beyond the Potomac and the Ohio. During the thirty years of his ministry he traveled upwards of a hundred thousand miles, mostly on horse back. Owing to the fact that he did not cease his journeys north and west during the Civil War, but continued as usual to go where he heard the call of duty, he was met in the public highway near his home, and shot in cold blood, by men who should have been his neighbors. But he died as he had lived: with his face forward, and with neither fear nor hatred of man n his heart. His memory lives. Page 158 On Feb 18, 1826, -------------Rockingham Academy--------with nine gentlemen whose names follow as trustees:--------------------Joseph Cline----------- Page 209 -------------------The men appointed at Harrisonburg ------------Joseph Cline. Page 81 Feb 24, 1778-Anthony Kline buys of Lewis and Mary Stephens for L50 Lot 55 (1/2 A.) in Stephensburg, and two bought more land of Stephens. On Sept. 7, 1779, Adam Kline bought of George Wright 400A. on a brach of Opeckon. Kline, Adam, died in 1854, in Wright Branch, Pneumonia, age of death 57 years, born on Crooked Run, Warren Co., VA, parents Michael & Margaret Kline, reported by Rebecca Newcome, sister; Page 3, Line 8. Kline, Ann e. died on 25 Sep 1855, in Frederick Co. VA, Cholera Infection, age of death 9 months, born in Frederick Co. VA, parents Joseph & Mary Kline, reported by her father; Page 6, Line 39. Kline, Daniel, died on 1 Jan 1853, near Middletown, VA, age of death 79 years & 3 months, born in Frederick co., VA, Farmer, husband of Sarah Kline, reported by his wife; Page 1, Line 20. Kline, Fannie Virginia, died on 9 Dec 1867, in Frederick Co. VA, Inflammation of the Bowel, age of death 4 years & 10 months & 9 days, born in Frederick Co. VA, parents Samuel J. & Martha Kline, reported by her father; page 22, Line 14. Kline, Henry, died in Aug 1856, in Middletown, Frederick Co. VA, Paralysis, age of death 52 years, born in PA, Laborer, reported by L. Rouce, neighbor, no further information given; Page 7, Line 10. Kline, James E. died on 6 Feb 1855, in Frederick Co., VA, age of death 7 days, born in Frederick Co. VA, parents David & Martha Kline, reported by his father; page 5, Line 8. Kline, Jemina, died on 12 Jan 1858, in Kline Mill, Frederick Co. VA, Dropsy, age of death 77 years, born in MD, husband of of Anthony Kline, reported by A. M. Kline, her son; Page 11, Line 1. Kline, unnamed male, died on 4 Jan 1855, in Frederick Co. VA, age of death 1 day, parents Simon & Barbary Kline, reported by his father, no further information given; Page 5, Line 1.