Again, my major source for this information is _Ball Cousins_ by Margaret Kinsey, 1981 Gateway Press. William was probably the youngest son of William and Martha, and was probably born in Pennsylvania about 1762. He had moved to Virginia before 9 Feb 1788, the date of his marriage to Ann Keas, daughter of Margaret Keas, with Isaac Keas as witness. [Fauquier Co. VA Marriage record] William probably died before 1800. Ann Ball was shown as head of household on the 1810 census for Fauquier Co. [p. 166 Kinsey] It is possible that he was the "William who started an iron furnace in Falmouth VA and died before he finished and his son had to complete it." Kinsay adds "That was a tradition published in Virkus that had a wide circulation." Their children: Elizabeth Ball Potter -- shown on 1826 list as "Elizabeth Potter" but original affadavits with the Ball Collection at the PA Historical Society shows her as unmarried. Neither she, nor descendants, shared the distribution of Joseph's estate. Aaron H. Ball b. 1792 died 1833 in Stafford Co. Virginia per another affadavit within the Ball Collection. He married "Elizabeth" who was living in 1850 in Stafford Co. with son James H. and daughter & son-in-law Hezehiah and Ann P. Potts. John b. abt 1793 m. 2 Dec 1812 Fanny Pittman in Carolina Co. Virginia. He died 11 Jan 1857 in Clark Co. KY. William b. 1798 Fauquier Co. VA d. 1860 Henry Co. KY. He married Barbara Hall of KY

All I want for Christmas is to find some information about my gggranddaddy... he lived most of his life in Fauquier. I have plenty on him after his marriage... it is the time before his first recorded marriage that I need information about.. I can trace him to a Branch of the Showers in PA using pictures because of a particular facial feature that is passed down. But I need Facts! Philip Henry Showers b 1820 in PA married in 1865 (iin Fauquier) Eliza Jane Elkins married 1905 (in Fauquier) Fannie Scott Kenney died in 1937 Albemarle County VA buried Lebanon Presbyterian Church Cemetery Greenwood Va (off RT 250) allied lines (through his step son George William (Elkins) Showers who married Sarah Elizabeth Rutherford and his son James Henry Showers who married Edna Catherine Kenney and daughter Martha Ann Showers who married William Larkin Sealock , Heflin, Mills, Dawson, Hanback, Kennedy,Kerby Humphries, Johnson, Smith, Figgins, Wendel, McWilliams, and on and on... April Showers Brown

Dear Smith - and other common name researchers (and I bet you have some) Some tips I have learned while trying to scale brick walls: I was trying to separate out/sort out two men who had Rev War service. They had rather unusual first and last names, but, darn it, they lived in adjoining counties in North Carolina. I happened to be in Washington, DC and wandered into the DAR Library to seek help with this problem. The Library was nearly empty, and I reported my problem. I was directed to a staff genealogist, as I was trying to help a prospective member find the right ancestor--a new ancestor. The genealogist told me: 1. Find out who were the associates of each man. That was rather easy because I had a list of all the spouses whom the children of the patriot had married, and that caused me to round up some suspicious characters with those surnames. In other cases, I have noted the neighbors (generally named in deeds), bondsmen for marriages or other bonds, administrators of estates, sons-in-law as named in wills or deeds, and so on. A cousin tells me he traced a common-named family by the name of one of the slaves!!! 2. Find out on what watercourse each man was located. For colonial Southerners, this is most important. Water was needed for each household, for crops, for animals, and for transportation! Most land records, patents and deeds, make some mention of a watercourse--a river, a creek, a run, a path, a swamp, etc. Another well-know genealogist-historian suggests using the NuckMuck (National Union Catalog of Manuscript Collections put out by the Library of Congress). These are hard to use, because there are so many of these catalogs, but, if you are near a large library, call up and ask the reference librarian if they have NuckMuck [yep--they wll know what you mean] This latter is especially a difficult job--you get waylaid by so many interesting entries. Try it first with an unusual name in your family--or a county in which your people lived. Here is a website: www.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/nucmc.html The National Union Catalog of Manuscript Collections (NUCMC) provides RLIN (Research Libraries Information Network) bibliographic records and makes associated authority records for collections in the custody of repositories located throughout the United States which are open on a regular basis to researchers and which are unable to contribute national-level cataloging to a national computer database such as OCLC or RLIN. I just now put in the search engine for NUCMC what I thought was an unusual surname, but the search engine must have misread it. I know that a family member had long ago before his demise deposited his collections in some library from the Library of Congress obtained annual reports. I had stumbled on this in the book version of NUCMC. I just now discovered on the cited website that the Library of Virginia reports all the Bible records which it holds. I am going to have to try some new searches with a slightly more unusual name. I did spot a Womack Bible and I will again search for that, as one of my females in Goochland Co. bore that maiden name (named in her father's will, as were other married daughters.) Isn't it amazing what we can do on the internet? For example, NUCMC when I thought I would have to go to a University Library. Catalogs from most Universities, if not all; census databases; e-mail from cranky cousins; e-mail from grateful cousins!!! and so on. I hope you sort out your Smiths!!! I believe Northern Neck folks are hard to sort out. I have a more unusual surname--I thought--until I started rounding them up--all of them prior to 1763 when my ancestor appeared in Orange Co., NC, but had been in Virginia Rangers during French & Indian War!!! Oh, well, some of us like untangling these mysteries. Others just like to connect dots, whether they belong there or not. Remind me of kindergartners trying to color within the lines!!! E.W.Wallace

Fauquier County Subscribers to Nicholson's Encyclopedia From a list published in the Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly, May 1984 "The lists below are to be found in part 2, volume 6 of the set. Those using them are reminded that the date of publication makes it possible that the lists themselves were compiled about 1815." David Rodes William Thompson William Smith Alexander S. Craig Thomas O. Gunnings Robert Brent Bailey Burce James W. White Francis W. Brooke James W. Wallace William B. Cordell Thomas L. Fitzhugh Martin E. Carter Richard Thompson John Edmonds, Jr. Charles Bell McCarty Roy Richard Chichester Jr. Joseph Weaver John E. Blackwell A. Pollard John S. Rust Edward Carter William McCoy Elias E. Edmonds Andrew Turner Marcus Russell Thomas Ashby Josiah Murray Edmund Sharpe Hancock, Lee & Co. Turner Ashby William W. Wallace John Ashby

While it may not always be the case, giving children the surname of a relative as a first name was not unusual, especially in large families who followed the naming conventions of the time. In one of my family lines, the youngest son (at least the 9th child) was named Smith Sanford McCrary. Don't know where the Sanford came from yet, but his mother's maiden name was Smith. I think by the time they got down to naming him, they may have run out of names of the conventional sort :-) Bushrod, like Armstead, may well fit in the same sort of pattern. Harriet

A chapter, now disbanded, in NSDAR was named Hannah Bushrod, and I knew there was a connection to the Washington family of Northern Neck Virginia (like George Washington's predecessors). John Augustine Washington (parents: Augustine Washington and Mary Ball) was married to Hannah Bushrod, if what I read on the internet (I used a www.google.com search) is correct. I believe their land was in Westmoreland Co., but I am not a Washington expert. Try a google search for Bushrod and see what you come up with. All who had ancestors early in Fauquier Co. should put these books on their must-read list: Gertrude E. Gray, Virginia Northern Neck Land Grants [4 volumes, arranged chronologically, published by Geneal. Publishing Co.] Early volumes of Nell Marion Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers These will have some Northern Neck land grants here before Lord Fairfax took over Northern Neck. Any and all books concerning records of Prince William Co. and even surrounding counties prior to the formation of Fauquier Co., which, if memory serves was about 1759. Many of these have been abstracted by The Antient Press (Ruth & Sam Sparacio, compilers) The Antient Press has a website and an online catalog. Beverly Fleet, a long-ago genealogist, compiled many records for Northern Neck Virginia, and you will find your earliest ancestors or their associates in some of his records, particularly Northumberland Co. which covered all of Northern Neck. Some of his records are on CD-ROMs put out by Family Tree Maker. Once in a while, you can find them on sale. If you can find them, Peggy Shomo Joyner compiled surveys of Northern Neck land, which surveys precede the land grants, and you will find some of those nam es in those surveys. Land records have helped me with many a genealogical problem. When you get used to these records, then you want to start collecting all the neighbors along the same watercourse, as they most often intermarried. Those who live in Virginia or in the Washington DC area or the Salt Lake City area should have no problem locating these books. If they are not in a library near you, get busy with your internet searches and entice your public librarian to interlibrary loan the books for you. Your New Year's resolution! Happy hunting! E.W.Wallace

In a message dated 12/13/03 7:07:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, wlgreene@ij.net writes: > <A HREF="mailto:VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com">VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com</A> In my Rigby Alexander family line I have a first name of Bushrod, which I though was strange for a first name. I wonder if it connects somehow to the surname of Bushrod? I also have a first name of Armstead, another strange one! And I have seen the surname of Armstead from time to time. My Bushrod Alexander was born 2/7/1829 in VA but I do not have evidence of his mother. My Armstead Alexander was born 4/30/1836 in IN. His mother Dolly Foster married Rigby Alexander in Fauquier Co., VA 8/12/1833. There is evidence that my Rigby and Dolly did move to IN. Some researchers think my Rigby Alexander is really John Alexander who married Netty Creel 8/28/1809 in Fauquier Co., VA. Any ideas about this from anyone? I have never been able to find evidence of a first marriage for Rigby Alexander in Fauquier or surrounding counties. Found him listed on an 1813 personal tax list in Loudon County and on some census records. Could really use some help. Thanks, Jessie

May I add my contribution to the growing list of early Fauquier residents with the given name of Bushrod? Bushrod Cox was born 9 Jan 1823 in Frederick Co VA; but his Grandparents, Samuel (1755-1828) and Elizabeth Cox were residents of Fauquier Co as early as 1782 (Fothergill, Virginia Taxpayers 1782-87.) I have found no intermarriage of my Cox family with the Bushrod or Washington families to account for the use of Bushrod as a given name. My current theory is that the prominence of the Bushrod family in the area gave rise to this naming--- due to a lack of any other ideas. Thanks for the Bushrod Family lineage. Karen Cox Gray

Dear Fauquier County, Virginia Genealogist, Through the years I have been extracting a lot of information on the Smith family of the Northern Neck. Here is my William Smith and Margery ROWLEY. I have a chapter on every county with partial information on the Smith family. I hesitate to share the information as it is in such a mess. My goal has been to determine who the father of William SMITH who married Margery ROWLEY. There must be 25 possible men who might be the father of William Smith who married Margery Rowley. Anyone have ideas, would love to correspond. The Smith family information of Westmoreland County, Virginia is at the bottom of this email. thanks Jim Burgess Fauquier County, Virginia USGENWEB William SMITH & Margery ROWLEY King George County, Virginia 1690 - 1741 1a. William SMITH was born about 1690 probably in Old Rappahannock County, Virginia. William married Margery ROWLEY about 1715 probably in King George County, Virginia. . William left his Will in Apr 1741 in King George County, Virginia. Margery ROWLEY was born about 1692 in Stafford County, Virginia the daughter of William ROWLEY Senior and Mary Children of William SMITH and Margery ROWLEY 2a. William SMITH was born about 1716 in King George County, Virginia. (mentioned in Will of William Rowley Junior) 2b. Joseph SMITH was born about 1718 in King George County, Virginia. He married Ann ANDERSON who was born about 1718 in Richmond County, Virginia the daughter of Walter Anderson and Mary TRAVIS. Anne Anderson married Joseph SMITH about 1739 in King George County, Virginia. Thomas SMITH will was written 6 Jan 1793 in Fauquier County, Virginia. (Refer to Chapter 7) 2c. Thomas SMITH was born about 1720 in King George County, Virginia (mentioned in Will of William Rowley Junior) 2d. John SMITH born about 1722 in King George County, Virginia and lived in Prince William County, Virginia was also a son of William SMITH. 2e. Anne SMITH was born about 1724 in King George County, Virginia Anne married Jeremiah BRYANT. 2f. Jeane / Jean SMITH was born about 1726 in King George County, Virginia. Jean married Mr. Richard OWENS (OWINGS) mentioned in William ROWLEY Jr. will. 2h. Rowley SMITH was born about 1728 in King George County, Virginia. 2g. Lettice / Letice SMITH was born about 1732 in King George County, Virginia and married:(1) John WISHART was born in Scotland and died 12 Aug 1774 in King George County, Virginia. married (2) Michael WALLACE married 8 Jun 1775 Michael WALLACE was the son of Dr WALLACE and Elizabeth BROWN Michael WALLACE was born 8 Jun 1753 in Ellerslie, King George County, Virginia. Michael died in April 1797 in Ellerslie, King George County, Virginia. NOTE: Lettice WISHART is mentioned in the will of William Rowley Junior Excerpt from the Will of William ROWLEY Junior King George County, Virginia written 11 May 1874 and proved 2 Jun 1774 King George County, Virginia Will Book 1 page 354 documents in my opinion that our Joseph SMITH who was the first cousin of William ROWLEY Junior had two brothers named Thomas and William. Item. I give unto Rowley Smith the sum of five pounds and whereas I sold unto Joseph Smith a negro woman and two children for whom he agreed to pay to me the sum of ninety pounds which is still due. My will is that the said Joseph do pay unto William Smith and Thomas Smith the sum of thirty pounds each out of the said ninety pounds and I acquit the said Joseph of the remaining thirty pounds and I release all other debts to every of the last named legatees. The migration path for our SMITH family seems to be Old Rappahannock, County, Virginia to King George County, and Stafford County, to Prince William County, Virginia and finally to Fauquier County, Virginia. NOTE: Anyone who tries to under SMITH families has lost his mind. Jim Burgess WILL OF WILLIAM SMITH (Father of Joseph SMITH) SMITH, William (d.i., 1741.) COB#2, p.248: 3 Apr 1741 = Administration on the estate of William SMITH, deceased is granted to his widow Margery with William ROWLEY, Jr., and John GRANT her securities. On the same day Margery SMITH gave bond as administratrix of William SMITH, deceased, with William ROWLEY, Jr. and John GRANT, her securities (Bond Book #3, p.10) The bond of the administratrix was in the sum of L200 Current Money and an inventory of his estate was promptly returned to court on 1 May 1741 and recorded in I#1, pages 264-265. COB#2, and Margery, his wife , deliver the estate of William SMITH, deceased, to William Rowley , Junior and John GRANT who were her securities for her proper administration of his estate; otherwise to her said securities counter security &c. From this and other recordings it is certain that Margery, widow and administratrix of William SMITH, deceased, married secondly the said George HENAGE. Perhaps the best record that proves the relationship between Joseph Smith and his father William Smith is found in King George County, Virginia Deed Book 1743-1752 page 81-84. “Between Joseph Smith of Prince William County and Anne his wife formerly sold unto William SMITH, father of the said Joseph. WHO ARE THE PARENTS OF WILLIAM SMITH? We need more documentation to determine who the real parents of William SMITH are? At first review the couple named Edward SMITH and his wife Lettice had a son named William SMITH. That is the correct age to be our William SMITH. Our William SMITH had a daughter named Lettice and his mother was named Lettice. Sounds good to me. King George County, Virginia Deed Book 2 page 17-20 George Mason of Stafford County by deed 28 Mar 1692 and by said Mason sold unto Martin Scarlett by deed 1 May 1694 and said Martin Scarlet devised by his last will bearing date 5 Jan 1705/6 unto William SMITH son of Edward SMITH and Lettice SMITH and in case said William SMITH before he attained twenty one years of age to the heirs of Lettice SMITH’ s for ever, who is the Scarlett Hancock land bounded upon the river side .. corner tree of Richard Shipway into woods on west side a path leading to Parson Waugh’s land of John Fossaker Note: The name Edward does not appear in our family; however, Lettetia certainly appears many times. Certainly there are several more William SMITH men in the area. Let’s review them and the records that we have available to us in the 21st Century about 300 years ago. Old Rappahannock County, Virginia Page 59 3 December 1684 Ordered that Mrs Elizabeth Smith be paid & allowed out of the Estate of her deceased Husband Major Henry Smith, two thousand pounds of tob and caske, it being for his funeral charges and expences expended therein. Reference is granted between Mr Abraham Kenyou Plt and the Adminirs of the estate of Majr Henry Smith deceased till next court north side of the River Wills of Richmond County, Virginia 1699-1800 Robert K. Headley page 178 Division of estate of William Smith deceased 5 May 1714 Mentions sons Thomas, James, William and William Carter. -----Original Message----- From: TEbel2888@aol.com [mailto:TEbel2888@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:03 AM To: jim@promobiz.biz Subject: Re: Blackwell Books Jim! You certainly have done a lot of work!! I think it will be critical to have a great Table of Contents to make the volume more user friendly. It was scary to me that I was the last leg in the chain and made so many corrections--obvious typo things like someone being married before they were born, etc. Libby cited HARDY throughout her corrections. We need to remember that books are written by people--who may not have had three editors. PS--More and more I think that my elusive William SMITH d. 1671 Westmoreland may connect to our Joseph SMITH of Fauquier somehow, but maybe not as an ancestor--maybe a many-grt uncle. His daughter Elizabeth m. a Daniel BROWN who was a son of a Francis and brother to another Francis. I think there is a COLEMAN connection further down AND they all lived near each other. A neighbor was Thomas GERRARD m. Rose (maybe Allerton) NEWTON, TUCKER. Their county became King George for a while. Mary (?) SMITH --the widow of William SMITH d. 1671 m 2) Samuel REEDS b. 1645--my forever brick wall ancestor d. Westmoreland--connects to HACKLEY, PIPER, MARSHALL, UNDERWOOD, KENDAL, CLAYTOR I have Samuel REEDS' will with no mention of Mary, so she must have pre-deceased him. Please watch for these people. His son went to Culpeper and m. Sarah HACKLEY, do Judith BALL and John HACKLEY--have much on these people. I do not have Mary's maiden name!! We have so many names alike. It was fun to see your picture in the book. You look just like my dad's first cousin --Duncan Hutchison REEDS. SMITH FAMILY OF WESTMORELAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA TRANSCRIBED BY JIM BURGESS FAUQUIER COUNTY, VIRGINIA USGENWEB Westmoreland County, Virginia Wills on the Smith Family Page 12 SMITH, William 13 Dec 1671; 28 February 1671. Wife Mary; daughter Elizabeth SMITH. Page 43 SMITH, William, 10 Oct 1707, 26 November 1707. land and best bed and furniture to my wife; grand daughters, Jane and Sarah Ashton, bed, furniture etc. daughter Temperance Lucas 1 feather bed and furniture; daughter Mary King feather bed and furniture; son in law Williams Danks one horse; grand Smith King 150 acres of land; wife, daughters Temperance and Mary exx. Page 52 SMITH, James 9 Dec 1713; 9 Apr 1714. Land to son James when 20 years of age; Wife Ann, my three daughters Jane, Ann and Elizabeth Smith; residue of estate and personal property to wife and four children. Page 53 SMITH, Charles, Parish of Sittenburn; 16 Feb 1709, 9 Jun 1714. Lands to son William and daughter Mary SMITH, Nathaniel Pope Senior and Mr Joseph BAYLEY Trustees; son Franci feather bed and furniture; wife Ann and children of estate . Page 57. SMITH, Anne 16 Jan 1715; 30 May 1716. To Alice Beckwith 100 acres of land for life; daughter in law Mary Smith land and she to be exx; probated by Mary Gerrard the exx. Page 58 SMITH, Anne, 25 July 1716 29 August 1716 Inventory returned at house of William Gerard signed my Mary Gerard Page 66 SMITH, Joseph, 13 May 1718, 25 Jun 1718. Son Nathaniel SMITH 1 Shilling; daughter Mary cow etc; daughter Joyce SMITH 1 COW AND TABLE WARE; JOSEPH my land and rest of estate and he to live with his brother Nathaniel his brother For four years. Page 81 SMITH, Caleb 15 Jun 1725; 28 July 1725 To eldest son John 162 acres of lan; son Caleb an equal share with John; wife Elizabeth household goods, horse and cattle; my five children; brother John SMITH. Page 82 SMITH, John……… 25 Aug 1725 Sons Thomas and John; wife Mary Page 92 SMITH, Nicholas 23 July 1728; 25 Feb 1730. Lands between Nicholas, Peter and James the sons of Nicholas Smith; son John 1 shilling; ½ of my estate to be equally divided between my three sons and three daughters. ASHTON page 93. Page 101 SMITH, John 9 Dec 1735; 27 Apr 1736 Sister Margaret WATSON, son John; wife Mary and my child unborn Page 110 SMITH, Peter, 10 Jan 1738; 12 May 1741. 48 acres to my daughter Mary Fleming; son Peter land in Westmoreland; son James the land in Prince William on Bull Run where he now lived which is 325 acres; son Thomas and William land in Prince William which is 325 acres, daughter Abigail Fleming land in Prince William; granddaughter Ann Bailey land in Prine William, heirs of daughter Anne Thomas one shilling; daughter Mary Fleming one shilling; daughter Hannah Ware 1 Shilling; daughter Martha McClanahan1 feather bed; son Peter exr; heirs of son John Smith 1 shilling. Page 114 SMITH, Lazarus, 16 July 1742; 31 Aug 1742. Brother James; to Godson Spener son of Thomas Smith deceased, L 20 when he is 21 years of age; cox. Richard son of Richard Nutt and his wife Elizabeth horse, saddle, etc; Goddau Judith daughter of William SMITH, brother John SMITH 1 negro boy. Page 129 SMITH, Joseph 29 Dec 1749; 28 Aug 1750 Estate in her hands and 1 negro to daughter Jemima Monro; wife Sarah Saddle, bridle and estate for widowhood. To Augustine Goff 1 heifer; son Joseph 1 negro and land and if he die without issue to son Samuel and if he die without issue to son Gideon; sons Samuel and Gideon 1 negro each. Page 130 SMITH, Robert 12 Nov 1750; 29 Jan 1750 Son Samuel land whereon I live and if die without issue to my granson Robert son of Stephen Smith; son Samuel 1 feather bed and rest of estate to maintain his mother for life. Virginia Northern neck 1693-1742 2-62 William SMITH of Richmond County, Virginia 84 acres in Richmond County by Bryary Swamp surveyed by Mr. Edwin Conway ADJOINING Daniel O’NEALL land formerly Edmund Goodman’s now Smith’s Doctor Deacres road 20 Nov 1694. 2-77 William SMITH 135 acres adjoining land of Thomas Robinson and Edward LEWIS, LAND OF Thomas Peavis and Edward Lewis, Mr Sysan, George Bryars 22 July 1695. 2-186 Elizabeth daughter of William SMITH late of Westmoreland died ????of 590 acres on Mollocks granted to Smith 7 Apr 1667 who gave to Elizabeth 13 Dec 1671 Samuel Read married widow of Smith and Daniel Brown married Elizabeth the daughter. Escheat to Daniel Read, and David Brown opposite Capt John Washington adjoining formerly Thomas Moulton’s Mr Pop 7 Sep 1695 Northern Neck Land Grants 1693-1742 B-67 William SMITH the elder of Farnham Parish Richmond has 550 acres 63 per bought of Wm Fantleroy of Rappa now Richmond 5 Feb 1672/3 & confirmed 25 Apr 1685 but no patent grant to Smith on Herring Creek South West 4 Apr 1727 4-113 Nathaniel Hedgeman of Stafford Count 17 June 1703 set forth Wm Smith of Lancaster County died seized of 200 acres in Lancaster County no heirs. Certificate by Joseph Taylor Grant to Hedgman adjoining Robert Carter esq. Thomas Tattnall, Robert Schofield 26 Aug 1712.

I realize this particular message is mostly outside the limits of Fauquier County, but I think it's worth sending to the list because some of those mentioned are 'said' to have lived in Fauquier County and at least two of their sons did move there. Previously I sent information on the children of William and Martha (Brumfield); this message discusses their parents. Again, most of my information comes from Margaret Kinsey's _Ball Cousins_, 1981, Gateway Press. Contrary to the suggestion of the title, she discusses ONLY the Ball line related to Joseph Ball who died 1821 in Philadelphia. He died intestate and the court decided heirs of Joseph's aunts and uncles would share in his estate -- after his wife's portion was distributed. Kinsey cites many sources for specific statements (and I'll try to type those in as I go), but her main resource was the paper trail left by those who actually received money. Not all heirs did (in Kentucky one brother did and another didn't) -- my guess --some didn't bother with the hassle of proving their line back to one of Joseph's relatives. This William Ball's parents were John Ball and Sarah Road(e)s who married in Burlington Co., New Jersey 12 Feb 1711 per copy of their marriage bond, taken from microfilm at the NJ State Library. It remains a mystery why they married in New Jersey when she was living in Pennsylvania with her parents prior to and they near the parents after this date? That it is the same couple is proven by minutes of the Radnor Monthly Meeting in 1714 showing John Ball's apology for marrying Jno Road' daughter contrary to her father and mother's will. [Radnor (Mens) Monthly Minutes 1712-1718, p. 19. ] The births of only two children of John and Sarah (Roads) Ball appear in the surviving Gwynedd Monthly Meeting records: [Briths 1690-1805 p. 6] 1712 Sarah, dau of Jno & Sarah Ball 30, 10 mo 1715 Hannah, dau of Jno. & Sarah Ball 23, 4 mo. [p 26 Kinsey] John and Sarah were still in the area of Plymouth township in 1730 when he served as executor of his bro-in-law's will. But they had moved to Douglas township before 29 Aug 1741, where he died. Items in his inventory suggests John was involved in the making of charcoal for early iron furnaces. Is this the reason two of his grandsons moved to Fauquier Co. VA? The seven known children of John and Sarah (Roads) -- at least these are the only ones whose names appears as aunts / uncles of Joseph Ball -- were: Sarah b. 30 Dec 1712 d. 10 Dec 1779. She married Paul Custer abt 1735 Hannah b. 23 Jun 1715 PA married Joseph Holloway John b. abt 1718 married Mary Richards. [These are the parents of Joseph d. 1821] William b. abt 1720 d. before April 1774 in Pennsylvania (or so Margaret Kinsey believes). He married Martha Brumfield by 1742. Abigail married first Peter Gilbert 16 June 1749 and second George Tompkins Mary married George Smith abt 1750s Anna married John Campbell 4 April 1744 Martha Brumfield was the daughter of Thomas Brumfield and Susannah. According to Ray C. Brumfield and research of Blackman O. Brumfield in _Descendants of Thomas Brumfield of Berks County, Pennsylvania: Genealogy and Family History 1720-1960_ , [1962 Woolman Press, Indianapolis] they lived in Amity Township, Berks Co. and attended the Exeter Friend's Meeting House along with the families of George and Squire Boone, Mordecai Lincoln and John Ball. Although birth dates for most / all of the children aren't known, the authors think Martha is the eldest child and born abt 1725. These authors differ from Kinsey (who was beginning her research about the time they were setting theirs into type for publication) for has them moving to Culpeper County, VA before 1752 when son Thomas was born and then has them in Fauquier County, VA for birth of daughter Martha in 1760. Page 139 _Ball Cousins_ Kinsey makes this statement as to why she believes Virkus et al errs on this couple -- beginning with quote from will of Thomas Brumfield dated April 1774 / probated 1783: "'my will is that my said son Solomon shall pay and lay out for necessaries for my said daughter Martha Ball yearly what her necessity should require during her natural life.' The fact that Thomas Brumfield asked Solomon to provide for Martha indicated that her husband, William Ball, probably died before April 1774. It also showed that Martha was living in that area." From now on, I'll limit myself to the ones who actually lived in Fauquier County. Linda Linda Sparks Starr lsstarr@pilgrimage.us http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr

Can someone tell me which BUSHROD families lived in Fauquier and Culpeper Counties? I have a Bushrod McCarty born about 1832 in Culpeper County, VA and his brother was Stephen French McCarty born 7 Jul 1835 in Rappahanock County, VA. Rappahanock County formed 1833 from the northern section of Culpeper and that's the area where my McCarty's lived. I did some research and there was someone named Stephen French that lived in Prince William County and his daughters married McCarty's but I couldn't find a connection to him. I'm curious how the name Bushrod got into my McCarty family. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Kreh [mailto:krehztim@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:20 AM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: BUSHROD Bushrod Samuel Bushrod of Co. Dorset d. 1647 (no connections known) 1 Col. Thomas Bushrod (1604-1651) of York Co. m. Elizabeth ______ b. England to Virginia from Massachusetts 2 Richard Bushrod (1626-1667) merchant of Mobjack Bay Gloucester Co. 1667. Assingment fr. Rice Maddox 300 a. on Nomini Bay, Northumberland Co. 1662, pat 2000 a. Westmoreland Co. 15 Oct 1660 opp. Dog's Island on Potomac, renewed 1665 "Bushfield" m. Appia ______ who m. (2) bef 1670 Henry Whiting 3 Col. John Bushrod (20 Jan 1665 Gloucester Co. - 6 Feb 1719 Westmoreland Co.) will 26 Jan 1719 prob. 30 Mar 1720 m. Hannah Keene b. 4 Feb 1676 d. 1739 d/o William Keene & Elizabeth Rogers, who was d/o John Rogers. Elizabeth Rogers m. (2) Thomas Banks d. 1642 and had dau Elizabeth Banks. Elizabeth m. _____ Sanford and had son William Sanford. Hannah Keene m. (2) 1720 Col. Willoughby Allerton who d. 1724. She m. (3) John Cooper who d. 1735 4 Elizabeth Bushrod m. Nicholas Merriweather s/o Nicholas & Elizabeth (Crawford) Merriweather 4 Appia Bushrod m. 1712 Col. William Fauntleroy (1684-1728) of Naylor's Hole (see below) 5 Bushrod Fauntleroy to Loudoun Co. 5 Ann Fauntleroy m. John Pettit 5 Catherine Fauntleroy m (1) Thomas Sanford m. (2) Col. John Lewis 6 Appia Fauntleroy Lewis m. Lt. Davis Allen 5 Mary Fauntleroy m. Robert Brooke 5 William Fauntleroy (1713-1793) m. Margaret Murdock 6 Appia Fauntleroy m. 1782 John Champe Carter 5 Col. Moore Fauntleroy (1716-1791) of "The Cliffs" m (1) Anne Heale d. 1748 m (2) Elizabeth Mitchell who was b. 1726 and d. 1785. Children all with Ann Heale: 6 Appia Fauntleroy 6 Ellen Fauntleroy d. 1807 m. William Sydnor (1734-1794) of Lancaster Co. 7 Samuel Griffin Sydnor b. c. 1763 Lancaster Co. d. c. 1810 Frederick Co. m. Isabella Henning who m (2) Henry Peake. Henry Peake m (1) Susan Moffett and had son Dr. William Oscar Moffett. 8 Mary Ellen Sydnor (only child) 6 Samuel Griffin Fauntleroy 6 Henry Fauntleroy 5 Appia Fauntleroy (c. 1722-1799) m. 19 Apr 1748, 2nd wife of Col. William Daingerfield (1710-1769) 4 Hannah Bushrod m. Joseph (Neale) Heale b. 8 Feb 1681 s/o George & Ellen (Rogers) Heale. Appia may have m. (2) 1742 Adam Crump 4 Anne Bushrod m. Griffin Fauntleroy s/o William Fauntleroy & Katherine Griffin 5 Catherine Fauntleroy (1710-1747) m. William Daingerfield 4 Richard Bushrod 4 Sarah Bushrod m. James Berryman 4 John Bushrod d. 1729 m. Anne Bushrod (see below). Guardian of Francis Wright s/o Francis and Ann (Washington) Wright 5 Col. John Bushrod (1715-1755) will prob 30 Dec 1760, Burgess of Westmoreland, of "Bushfield" m. Mildred Corbyn b. 1712 of "Peccatone" d/o Henry Corbyn 6 Hannah Bushrod m. 1756 Maj. John Augustine Washington 7 Bushrod Washington, Judge (1762-1829) m. Julia Ann Blackburn 7 Mary Lee Washington m. ______ Herbert 7 Mildred Washington b. 1760 m. Thomas Lee 7 Corbyn Washington (1765-1799) m. Hannah Lee 7 Jane Lane Washington (1758-1791) m. William Augustine Washington 6 Daughter Bushrod m. John Petit 7 Lydia Bushrod Petit 6 Elizabeth Bushrod 5 Hannah Bushrod m. Adam Crump 6 Maj. James Crump (174_-1800) m. Isabella Monroe (11 Nov 1751-1797) d/o Thomas & Catherine (Hore) Monroe 5 Sarah Bushrod 4 Thomas Bushrod d.s.p. bef 1739 3 Thomas Bushrod (c. 1670-1749), inherited 3000 acres Northumberland co at mouth of Nomini Creek, later Westmoreland Co., m. Anne ______ 4 Capt. Richard Bushrod b. 1740 4 Anne Bushrod m. John Bushrod (see above) 2 Lydia Bushrod m. Thomas Harwood 2 Thomas Bushrod b. ca 1623 of York Co., inherited land in York County "Essex Lodge", m. 1657 Mary Persey, wid of Thomas Hill, d/o Abraham & Elizabeth (Draper) Persey. With Thomas Hill, Mary had dau. Mary, who m. (1) 1648 Moore Fauntleroy (1610-1663) and (2) 1664 William Lloyd. With Moore Fauntleroy, she had son William (c. 1655-1686) who m. Katherine Griffin. Their son, Griffin m (1) 1704 Elizabeth Tayloe, and m (2) 1707 Anne Bushrod d/o Col. John Bushrod and Hannah Keene (see above). Griffin had a brother, William Fauntleroy, who m. Appia Bushrod, Anne's sister (see above). 2 Elizabeth Bushrod m. Col. John Scarborough Notes: The Bushrod family came from Massachusetts to Virginia. Col. John Bushrod, Gent., petitioned as guardian of Francis Wright. Suite for ejection of Henry Lee from 300 acres in Cople Parish 1744. Lost suit. Hannah was daughter Cavaliers & Pioneers p. 353, Thomas Hill 500 ac. in Petomack freshes on SW side of Aquacond Riv. Called the western branch 18 Sep 1657 beginning about half a mile below the falls on SW side of John Wood's land assigned to a Scottish man and running WSW, etc. p. 122 (181) trans of 10 pers. Capt. Thomas Hill, Mary Hill, Francis Hill. (Note: Capt. Hill was dead and Mary (Persey) Hill had married Thomas Bushrod) p. 404-5 Mr. Richard Bushrod, 2000 acres Westmoreland Co. opposite the Myampses Island, commonly called the Dogs Island . . .on the Potomac River. 1000 ac. Pat. By Col. Speake 11 Oct 1653. P. 442 renews this land patent. p. 442 Richard Bushrod and Thomas Bushrod, 300 ac Northumberland Co. 10 Apr 1665 p. 145 (15) s. side Potomac Riv. Upon Nomini Bay N upon Cr. Dividing this land from John Armsby. Granted to Thomas Youell 16 Sep 1651, assigned to Rice Maddox, who assigned to Ralph Horsely who reassigned to sd. Maddox, who sold to George Durant, by whom it was sold to sd. Bushrod Gloucester Co. records from other counties: York Co., p. 111 Power of Attorney, Richard Walton to John Baskerville el als. . . Richard Bushrod in Mocke Jack Bay (Gloucester Co.) in Virginia aforesd Merch: 17 Sep 1667, signed Richard Walton and wife True Walton --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Thanks, Linda. Good info to ponder. Were the Balls in Berks Co like the Brumfields were? -Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Linda Sparks Starr [mailto:lsstarr@pilgrimage.us] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:05 AM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: BALL Bromfield Withers, > >5William Ball b 1718 marr MArtha Bromfield died 1785 in Culpeper. Was a >vestryman and G >justice like his father inherited 400 acres of land hiiis father. they had at >least one Dau > According to Margaret Kinsey in _Ball Cousins_, the William Ball who married Martha Brumfield most likely died before 1774, the date of her father's will. Martha's husband William was the son of John Ball and Sarah Roades, Quakers from Pennsylvania. Martha was the daughter of Thomas Brumfield who died before 28 Aug 1783 in Berks Co. PA. I know it is published that Samuel Ball's son William was the one who married Martha Brumfield / Bromfield. Several years ago I tried to find documentation for the marriage of Samuel Ball's son William, but never located anything close to 'good documentation' for his marriage, let alone the given name of his wife 'for sure'. I also seem to remember there were two William Balls who died in 1785 -- one with slaves and lots of property and the other almost destitute? My research records are now packed away so I'm going by memory here. I feel Mrs. Kinsey makes a good case for her side -- and my personal records reflect it. But I do admit to wondering how / why the Pennsylvania Balls moved to northern Virginia and married into the Payne family? According to her, the son of William Ball / Martha Brumfield "of Pennsylvania" is Capt. John Ball (1742 - 1806) who married Sarah Ellen Payne. Their son, John, married Alcey Withers and moved to Breckinridge County, Kentucky. In the 1850s descendants received money from the estate of Joseph Ball of Pennsylvania, which provides the background for Mrs. Kinsey's work. Linda Linda Sparks Starr lsstarr@pilgrimage.us http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr ______________________________

Jim, Thanks for sending the copy of the deed. It isn't necessarily crucial for me, but does mention at least one of my ancestors, Edwin Conway. I'm glad to have it. By the way, I'm almost ready to send the Chapter 17 Eustace info. Do you want it sent snail mail or email. I don't think it would be hard to send by email, because there is not a lot to it. Thanks, Velma Finley vrgfdonna@aol.com

2 cents worth: Hooray for your email! You have blessed many new researchers with some very good tips, even though some on the list were not happy with all that you said. Those unhappy also must not read every email that comes through, as they didn't seem to know that you are a female. I tend to agree that many people dont give enough info when they query as there is a vast difference in the 1600s vs the 1800s. One of the first things I learned was that generations are usually 20 years apart. Granted, for those families that bore 15-20 children, that guideline doesn't necessarily pan out. Keep contributing as you can, and dont let anyone ruffle your feathers. Some people will not ever change, but many will learn as time goes by. And newbys will almost always not give much in the way of details until they learn that they will get more if they give more. Perhaps we should have that as a VAFAUQUI slogan: Give more to get more! From: <Hdanw@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: Some Good People-Finders for Early Virginians > Dear researchers, > > There seems to be a lot of fishing for information taking place on the > Fauquier list. Most of the roll calls are meaningless, chiefly because no dates are > included. One assumes that some event or other (birth, marriage, death, > deed, etc) occurred in Fauquier Co. but your queries are not specific. I am > imparting some unsolicited advice to help you catch some fish. >

Nancy I spent some time at the library today and it is interesting as to what is not there as to what is there. First of all there is a Margaret Ball who had a brother Wm who died in Culpeper in 1802. iIn this Wm's will he does not name a wife or children , the legatees are his sister MArgaret who was left a suit of Mourning clothes and referred to as sister Margaret Barrow and Nephew Wm Gray son of Capt Wm Gray. In 1799 in Culpeper Wm Ball no title associated with him freed about 8 slaves( I did not read the manumissions) There was no will for the Capt Wm Ball or an estate acoounting for that matter or invnetory or any thing of that type to prove that Wm Ball died in 1785 which I found very odd. In the records that I could easily search after 1785 Wm Ball is no longer referred to as Gent( ths title was one that a lot of times was carreid through in records even after they wre no longer serving on the court) which may indicate that the Wm Ball found in the reoords afterh this date may be his son If it is the Wm that died in 102 then he was in mid 80's when he died.. There were no deeds from Wm Ball to anyone( therefore no wife named0 I did see one reference to Frances Ball however as a witness . To further complcate matters there was a Wm Ball who leased 250 acres in 1776 whose wife was Rebekah and son was James the land tax records seem to indicate that there may be 2 WM Ball's living in Culpeper at the same time. so now I am not sure whether this family connects into Fauquier or not and as such I will not post info about them to the list so as not to be accused of being off topic. I iwill gladly correspond with anyone off list however Susan

I have not seen Ball Cousins and AM unfamiliar with it. The info that I posted was from Samuel Ball's will. I do believe that most people are basing this idea on Hayden's genealogies which as we know was rife with errors. I do know that WIlliam Ball was living on the land that he had inherited from his father in Culpeper and given the proximity to Fauquier that part always made sense tome. I will go to the library of VA and chack to see if there is will of Wm but I believe that I have checked this before . I purposefully posted this to the list because although I have been very proud of the fact that supposedly I was related to Geo. Washington it is more important to have the facts straight. If you will consider sharing the research that points to this marriage please do so. As I remember there were no deeds from Wm that stated his wife's name But I will go check. Thanks for the input( my family is going to be so mad if I disprove this!!!! Well at least I can still point to being distantly related to Geo Mason). I realize that this is the holiday season and may not be the best time to do this so there is no hurry. BTW Samuel Ball's will names his wife as Anna Catherine. The most efficient way to disprove this may be through the slaves that Samuel left to Wm. I Know that there was a Wm Ball in Culpeper who was married By 1765 to Frances Slaughter Daughter of Francis Slaughter . I presume that you have this info or perhaps it is straightened out in the Ball Cousins. Thanks for the input. Susan

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Nancy and list, I assure you NONE of the BALL researchers are going to laugh at someone trying to sort them all out! I'm glad Mrs. Kinsey did the groundwork for me and I followed up by ordering some wills -- all transcribed in a pre-Windows program so I can't cut / paste to share. I do plan to retype when I get a chance. All you BALL buffs out there, don't you laugh!!!! :-) I'm trying to get all the BALL families 'somewhat' documented for my database, The William Ball who married Martha Brumfield -- per _Ball Cousins_ by Margaret Kinsey, 1981 TX -- had these children: 1. John b. 2 Oct 1742 Pennsylvania d. 1806 Warrenton, Virginia. He married Sarah Ellen Payne of Stafford Co. VA 6 Nov. 1767. [I plan a future message to the list about him -- with questions -- this is my direct line.] 2. Susannah b. early 1740s in PA d. by 1826. She married 1st Robert Fisher and 2nd Peter Kemper 18 Oct 1788 Fauquier Co. VA -- Kinsey page 170. Her children all with Fisher. June 1774 Robert Fisher purchased land on west side main branch of Licking run adj. (the above) John Ball. Robert d. before 18 Oct 1788 when Susannah married Kemper. 3. Thomas b. 1754 PA d. 1 March 1820 Lincoln Co. Kentucky m. Mary Reed 1781 in KY [ ? that part of VA that became KY] Kinsey pages 191-193 4. Elizabeth b. 6 Sept 1756 d. 2 Aug 1797 m. Isaac Supples 13 May 1777 [_PA Pioneer_ by Gans for specific dates -- p. 204 Kinsey] 5. Sarah d. bef 9 March 1829 Montgomery, PA m. John Daniels 20 July 1775 Kinsey page 189 -- death date from date her will was probated 6. Martha d. 1791 m. Moses Yocum [Kinsey quotes _A Pennsylvania Pioneer_ by Gans, p. 131 for Martha's death date] They lived in the Upper Merion twp of Montgomery County PA in 1787 adjacent Isaac and Elizabeth Supplee. [p. 208 Kinsey] 7. William b. 1762 d. 1800 m. Ann Keas 9 Feb 1788 Fauquier Co. VA [note: she possibly Mary Ann Keas] Kinsey p. 166: Ann Keas was the daughter of Margaret Keas; Isaac Keas was witness to marriage bond. This William MIGHT BE the one who started an iron furnace in Falmouth, VA and died before he finished -- his son had to complete it. Again, Mrs. Kinsey used the distribution of Joseph Ball's estate (died intestate 28 April 1821 Philadelphia and without children) in sorting through the various BALL kin. Those wanting part of his 'million dollars' had to prove (to the various lawyer's satisfaction) their connection back to his aunts and uncles. The William Ball who married Martha Brumfield was an uncle to Joseph Ball, the millionarie. Linda

Does this family connect to the Neale family in the 1600's Md. Barb in Illinois

Ok, then, I need someone to tell me which William Ball married Frances Slaughter in Culpeper c 1730, and which William Ball had son Wiliam who moved to SC and m1 Lilly Hitt and m2 Sarah Martin (as per one of the several BALL charts floating around)? And, did Samuel's Margaret marry John Barrow as stated in Va Gen's? (Evidence, please, not guesses, hearsay or assumptions.) All you BALL buffs out there, don't you laugh!!!! :-) I'm trying to get all the BALL families 'somewhat' documented for my database, so I can make sure mine don't get confused with the wrong lines(there are many)....but I'm not actively researching them all, so I depend on you all who are. I realize a lot of the published Ball data is junk, which is too bad. -Nancy -----Original Message----- From: SUZYBC@aol.com [mailto:SUZYBC@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:49 PM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: BALL Bromfield Withers, In a message dated 12/8/03 9:37:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, krehztim@yahoo.com writes: > 4 Samuel Ball (1686-1751) m. Ann Taylor > > 5 Mary Ball m. Robert Green Samuel Ball was a Vestryman and Gentleman Justice for Culpeper County. I n additon to Mary he had the following children 5William Ball b 1718 marr MArtha Bromfield died 1785 in Culpeper. Was a vestryman and G justice like his father inherited 400 acres of land hiiis father. they had at least one Dau 6.Sarah who marr John Daniels . Their daughter 7 Abigail Ball Daniels marr George Washington Withers of Fauquier 5.Judith marr John Hackley 5. Margaret