There is a Three-Mile Mountain in Shenandoah County. A photo showing "Three Mile Mountain. View is toward the east from cliffs on North Mountain near the W.Va. State line. Massanutten Mountains in far distance" is available at http://toto.lib.unca.edu/findingaids/photo/usfs/usfstable.asp?Pagenum=12

Could anyone help me locate Three Mile Mountain? I found this referenced in some Land Grants dating back to the Fairfax Proprietary. Since the Fairfax Proprietary encompassed a vast amount of land, this mountain may have been renamed or is in anouther county. I have the Virginia Atlas & Gazatteer and have not found it. Thanks, Estelle

Ginger, Checking some of my reference books for the surrounding counties, I find one William FOLEY as follows: Clark County, Virginia FOLEY, MOSES, 29 years of age, single, born in LOUDOUN co. VA, living in Rappahannock Co., VA, Farmer, parents WM & ABIGAIL FOLEY, married on 22 Jun 1882 in the bride's residence to Virginia W. RUST, 22 years of age, single, born in LOUDOUN Co., VA , parents James W. & Margaret A. RUST. In Frederick County, VA for 1815 there is a landowner as follows: FOLEY, Selby; North RV; 21S. No FOLEYS for Loudoun Co., VA Fauquier County, VA FAndrew; Thumb Run; 28NW. FOLEY, Enuck; Broad Run; 12NW. FOLEY, James; Thumb Run; 20NW. FOLEY, Susanna=12NW. FOLEY, Thomas; Thumb Run; 20 NW. FOLEY, William; Broad Run; 12NE. None of Shenandoah County, VA Chocy

Wonder if any one could give any information on the Catherina Ball and William Foley family mentioned here and the James Foley of a previous posting on the Ball family. Ginger ----- Original Message ----- From: <Chocybrown@aol.com> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: WILLIAM BALL > Listers, > I am a RITTER/RUTTER researcher; however, I thought I would post the > following BALL information for those that may need it since it does mention a > Francis WHITING of FAUQUIER COUNTY, VA. I am interested in the HENRY and > associated families where it is found the RITTER/RUTTER family married. Hezekiah > RUTTER's daughter married Aaron HENRY of Shenandoah County, VA in 1805. Richard > STAIG (another Fauquier Co., VA surname) witnessed the permission note. > > Frederick County, Virginia > Will Book No. 6, 1795-1802 > BALL, WILLIAM > Will: 14 May 1796/6 Sep 1796 > Wife: Not named; refers to "present wife" > Children: William Payne BALL, Thomas Kemp BALL, Nancy, Judith THROCKMORTON, > Betsy HENRY. > Trustee: Samuel PITTINGER, indenture dated 12 July 1790 on part of plantation > in trust for wife during her life in lieu of dower, reversion to sons when > dies; residue of land and rents to be divided when Thomas becomes 21. Whole > tract may be sold upon reversion. > To son Thomas, daughters Judith, Betsy and Nancy, named slaves. Residue to be > divided among children, of which the "two younger children are by my present > wife." > William and Thomas to be bound out to trade; also negroes given to them. > Wit: F. HARRISON, Robert PAGE > Exrs and guardians; Francis WHITING of FAUQUIER CO., Thomas PARKER, Laurence > BUTLER > (p.- 214-217) > > BALL, WILLIAM > Division of negroes. 2 Jan 1798 > Statement of payments to equaliz division. > To William BALL, Nancy BALL, Betsey BALL, Mrs. Judith SINGLETON, Thomas > BALL. (Judith BALL married James SINGLETON; 26 Oct 1797; Frederick County, VA. > marriage records.) > > W(B)ALL, WILLIAM, ORPHAN OF JESSE BALL > Guardianship Acct. Feb 1797-Jul 1798/3 Sep 1798 > Guardian: Augustine GREEN > Among items: "Expense of his negroes from Lancaster to Frederick; Clerks of > Lancaster against me as guardian." Balance due WILLIAM W (B)ALL, L7.13.6. > Examiners: Abram NEILL, h. RUTH. > (p. 394-395) > > WALKER, JAMES > Appraisal & Sale Account. July 1799-1Sep 1800/1 Dec 1800 > Appraisers: William BALL, Isaac LITTLER, Lewis HOFF > Among buyers: Rachel WALKER > > BALL, CAPTAIN WILLIAM > Sale Account. 19 Dec 1796/6Jul 1801 > Exrs: Thomas PARKER, L. BUTLER > Among buyers; Mrs. Drucilla BALL, Miss Judith BALL > > BALL, WILLIAM > Memo of valuation of property. 16 Dec 1796/15 Aug 1801 > Appraisers: George ECKRIDGE, John HIERONIMUS, William COOK > (P. 635-637) > > BALL, WILLIAM and GREEN, ANN > Orphans of Jesse BALL > Sale Account & Settlement. Jan 1797/7 Feb 1797 > Order of Lancaster (PA) Court dated Jan 1797 to settle estate of Ann GREEN > and William BALL, orphans of Jesse BALL, which was in hands of Capt. Richard > SELDON. Balance due William BALL of L9.9.6. Appraisal of negroes by William > YERBY, William DAVIS, and Sever GALLES recorded Frederick County Court 7 Feb 1797. > (p. 245-246) > > Will Book No. 8, 1804-1810 > BALL, JASPER > Division of slaves: 5 Dec 1808 > Legatees: Edward BALL, Samuel CONNER, William FOLEY and Jasper BALL > Subscribers: Jas. WARE, Thos. KENNON and William TAYLOR > (Frederick County, VA marriages: Catherine BALL married William FOLEY, 10 Mar > 1798; Samuel CONNER married Sally BALL, 12 Jan 1789) > (p. 397) > > Will Book No. 7, 1802-1804 > HARRISON, JOHN > Appraisal. 25 July 1801/5 Sep 1803 > Appraisers: Jasper BALL, T. W. WARE, Jr., Griffin TAYLOR > (p. 131-132) > > Will Book No. 8, 1804-1810 > BALL, JASPER > Inventory and appraisal: 4 July 1808 > Appraisers: William TAYLOR, Jas. WARE and Thos. KERNAN > Among buyers: Edward BALL > (p. 374-376) > > Will Book No. 9, 1810-1816 > SYDNOR, SAMUEL B., ORPHAN OF WILLIAM F. SYDNOR > Guardianship Account. 1799/5 May 1812 > Guardian: John S. BALL > Examiners: Saml. BAKER, W. VANCE > (p. 120-128) > > Hope this helps some BALL researchers, > Chocy > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Fauquier County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/fqva.htm > Be sure to bookmark it!!! > >

"Cartmell's History" lists John S. BALL being on the Frederick County, VA Court as a Justice from 1795-1813. (Page 105) Listed also among those Justices were the following surnames associated with the BALL names in my previous postings: John SMITH, Chas. SMITH, Edward SMITH, Joseph GAMBLE, James SINGLETON, Bushrod TAYLOR, Jacob HEIRONIMUS, James WARE, Mandley TAYLOR, Griffin TAYLOR, Robt. VANCE. (There were a number of other Justices for that period; but I did not list them since they did not appear to connect with the preivous BALL postings). Page 444 The BALL Family The first appearance of this family in the old county was in 1772, when Jasper BALL came from LOUDOUN COUNTY, and purchased a tract of 86 acres. The following year he purchased an adjoining tract on Morgan's Marsh. He doubless was the father of WILLIAM BALL who died in 1796, who by his will disposed of his estate between his childre, viz Wm. Payner, Thomas Kemp, Judith THROCKMORTON, Betsey HENRY, and Nancy BALL. The latter was the wife of Martin CARTMELL, of Homespun, 1808. Judith T. was the wife of Genl. SINGLETON, 1797/ Betsey married Geo. SMITH, 1790. Other marriages appear, evidently of same family, and are mentioned for the benefit of some descendants: Sally BALL married Samuel CONNOR, 1789; WILLIAM BALL married Drucilla SINGLETON, 1790. Phebe BALL married William MORGAN, 1795; Frances married M. FAUNTLEROY, 1809; Lavinia BALL married Josiah MASSIE, whose daughter married Mr. Gamble BAKER. Page 106 Lists WILLIAM BALL as an officer in the War of 1812-1814 in The First Infantry Company recruited by Capt. MORGAN. The Company was then reorganized and used as Mounted Infantry, and became know as Cavalry Company Number Four. Page 135 City of Winchester, 1743-1850 -----------Court held for Frederick Co the 5th day of March, 1782. This last will and testament of the Right Honourable Thomas Lord Fairfax, deceased,------------------------------------------- "THIS INDENTURE made the second day June in the year of OUr Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and One Between James M. Marshall of the City of Washington in the District of Columbia in the United States of America and Hatty, his wife, of the one part, and ----------------------------------------------Thomas MASSIE,-----------------------------------James SINGLETON, ----------Gentlemen Justices now in commission of the peace in and for the County of Frederick-----------------Henry BEATLY, Mayor, Lewis WOLFE, Recorder, William DAVISON, WILLIAM BALL, Joseph GAMBLE and Peter lauck, Aldermen of the Corporation of Winchester---------------

Listers, I am a RITTER/RUTTER researcher; however, I thought I would post the following BALL information for those that may need it since it does mention a Francis WHITING of FAUQUIER COUNTY, VA. I am interested in the HENRY and associated families where it is found the RITTER/RUTTER family married. Hezekiah RUTTER's daughter married Aaron HENRY of Shenandoah County, VA in 1805. Richard STAIG (another Fauquier Co., VA surname) witnessed the permission note. Frederick County, Virginia Will Book No. 6, 1795-1802 BALL, WILLIAM Will: 14 May 1796/6 Sep 1796 Wife: Not named; refers to "present wife" Children: William Payne BALL, Thomas Kemp BALL, Nancy, Judith THROCKMORTON, Betsy HENRY. Trustee: Samuel PITTINGER, indenture dated 12 July 1790 on part of plantation in trust for wife during her life in lieu of dower, reversion to sons when dies; residue of land and rents to be divided when Thomas becomes 21. Whole tract may be sold upon reversion. To son Thomas, daughters Judith, Betsy and Nancy, named slaves. Residue to be divided among children, of which the "two younger children are by my present wife." William and Thomas to be bound out to trade; also negroes given to them. Wit: F. HARRISON, Robert PAGE Exrs and guardians; Francis WHITING of FAUQUIER CO., Thomas PARKER, Laurence BUTLER (p.- 214-217) BALL, WILLIAM Division of negroes. 2 Jan 1798 Statement of payments to equaliz division. To William BALL, Nancy BALL, Betsey BALL, Mrs. Judith SINGLETON, Thomas BALL. (Judith BALL married James SINGLETON; 26 Oct 1797; Frederick County, VA. marriage records.) W(B)ALL, WILLIAM, ORPHAN OF JESSE BALL Guardianship Acct. Feb 1797-Jul 1798/3 Sep 1798 Guardian: Augustine GREEN Among items: "Expense of his negroes from Lancaster to Frederick; Clerks of Lancaster against me as guardian." Balance due WILLIAM W (B)ALL, L7.13.6. Examiners: Abram NEILL, h. RUTH. (p. 394-395) WALKER, JAMES Appraisal & Sale Account. July 1799-1Sep 1800/1 Dec 1800 Appraisers: William BALL, Isaac LITTLER, Lewis HOFF Among buyers: Rachel WALKER BALL, CAPTAIN WILLIAM Sale Account. 19 Dec 1796/6Jul 1801 Exrs: Thomas PARKER, L. BUTLER Among buyers; Mrs. Drucilla BALL, Miss Judith BALL BALL, WILLIAM Memo of valuation of property. 16 Dec 1796/15 Aug 1801 Appraisers: George ECKRIDGE, John HIERONIMUS, William COOK (P. 635-637) BALL, WILLIAM and GREEN, ANN Orphans of Jesse BALL Sale Account & Settlement. Jan 1797/7 Feb 1797 Order of Lancaster (PA) Court dated Jan 1797 to settle estate of Ann GREEN and William BALL, orphans of Jesse BALL, which was in hands of Capt. Richard SELDON. Balance due William BALL of L9.9.6. Appraisal of negroes by William YERBY, William DAVIS, and Sever GALLES recorded Frederick County Court 7 Feb 1797. (p. 245-246) Will Book No. 8, 1804-1810 BALL, JASPER Division of slaves: 5 Dec 1808 Legatees: Edward BALL, Samuel CONNER, William FOLEY and Jasper BALL Subscribers: Jas. WARE, Thos. KENNON and William TAYLOR (Frederick County, VA marriages: Catherine BALL married William FOLEY, 10 Mar 1798; Samuel CONNER married Sally BALL, 12 Jan 1789) (p. 397) Will Book No. 7, 1802-1804 HARRISON, JOHN Appraisal. 25 July 1801/5 Sep 1803 Appraisers: Jasper BALL, T. W. WARE, Jr., Griffin TAYLOR (p. 131-132) Will Book No. 8, 1804-1810 BALL, JASPER Inventory and appraisal: 4 July 1808 Appraisers: William TAYLOR, Jas. WARE and Thos. KERNAN Among buyers: Edward BALL (p. 374-376) Will Book No. 9, 1810-1816 SYDNOR, SAMUEL B., ORPHAN OF WILLIAM F. SYDNOR Guardianship Account. 1799/5 May 1812 Guardian: John S. BALL Examiners: Saml. BAKER, W. VANCE (p. 120-128) Hope this helps some BALL researchers, Chocy

Clara S. McCarty 1972 "McCartys of Virginia " with emphasis on the first four generations in the colony. Might help all McCarty buffs. Daniel Heath de Butts

Everyone, I spent some time yesterday extracting the data on John and William Balls from several of John Gott's transcription of court records -- from the CD I purchased a few years ago. I discovered more John and Williams than I knew about. The John Ball on Licking Run with wife Sarah Ellen is the son of William Ball and Martha Brumfield. Who is the other John Ball d. 1778? And who is the William Ball Gent dec'd by 1777?? Where does Capt. William Ball of Frederick Co. fit? Here's a chronological listing of the more important listings for William and John only. 1768 -- William Ball witness to several leases Lord Thomas Fairfax to xxxx -- other witnesses James Scott, William Ransdell, J. Moffett 1769 -- John Ball purchased 100 acres on Licking Run from Henry and Margaret Boatman 1770 -- William Ball sold three negroes to Martin Pickett and Thomas Keith with William Blackwell witness William Ball bond of L400 to James Foley for good title to negroes purchased from him; John Moffett and Thomas Keith security to bond with Joseph Blackwell Jr. witness 1771 -- John Ball purchased 100 acres on branches of Licking Run from James and Sarah Duff 1776 -- William Ball, Joseph Smith, William Pickett, John Miller to view road from Wm Bernard's fence to main road below Joseph Smith's fence 1777 -- John Ball purchased 107 acres NE side Licking Run from Samuel and Keziah Conyers and Martin Pickett John Ball witness with John Blackwell and Martin Pickett sale land on Great Run near Kemper's Mill dam James Burditt to Frederick Burdett William Ball appointed Capt. in room John Webb deceased John Moffett appt'd gdn James and Richard Mottrom Ball, orphans of William Ball Gent 1778 -- William Ball, Benjamin Ball, J. Moffett, Aylett Buckner, Edward Dulin and Jas / Jos Jackman witnesses to sale William Dulin Sr. to William Dulin Jr. Francis Triplett in room of Capt. Ball -- recommended officers in militia of Fauquier Co. Original Graham and Mary, admx of estate John Ball dec'd to appear next court and settle accts. Also mentions division of his estate between widow Mary and his children. Order three tithables of William Ball be added to list taken by William Pickett, Gent. William Ball J. P. signed security bond with Jno Blackwell, William Pickett, Thomas Keith, Hezekiah Turner for Thomas Watts as gdn orphans of Thomas Watts 1779 -- John Ball one of several signing security bond for James Bell as Sheriff of Fauquier Co. William Ball recommended as 2nd Lt in Fauquier Co. militia Archibald Ritchie Pltf vs. John Moffett Gent, Admr of William Ball Gent. dec'd -- for debt from 13 April 1769 John Ball among signers bond for James Bell as Sherriff John Ball recommended Ensign Fauquier Co. militia John Ball recommended for Captain of militia 1780 -- Reginald Graham appt'd gdn Mary Bland Ball and Judith Ball, orphans John Ball dec'd William Ball recommended Lt. of militia 1782 -- Lease between Daniel Payne and William witnessed by William and John Smith William Ball, William Smith, William Dulin and Thomas James, or any three, to appraise estate Thomas Jackman John Ball, William Withers, James Withers and / or William Jennings to view road from Allason's Mill on motion James Wheatley 1784 -- deed of gift Francis Whiting to Elizabeth Henry Ball, daughter of Capt. William Ball of Frederick Co. deed of gift Francis Whiting to Judith Throckmorton Ball, daughter Capt. William Ball of Frederick Co. 1796 -- William Ball and Orrick Chilton security for bond Chilton Ransdell as gdn for orphans of Thomas Ransdell 1806 -- Sarah Ellen Ball, gdn George Lewis Ball, orphan John Ball dec'd with John Ball and Eli Porter security. 1815 -- Joseph B. Ball, gdn Sarah R. Ball, orphan William Ball dec'd with John Kemper and Dan'l Withers his security Linda Sparks Starr lsstarr@pilgrimage.us http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr

Keep at it, everybody, you're doing great! Can't stop right now, but will try to catch up in a few days. Thanks to everyone who is participating in this thread! -Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Chocybrown@aol.com [mailto:Chocybrown@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:33 PM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: WILLIAM BALL Velma, There is more on this William BALL. If you are interested, let me know and I will post it also. Chocy

For those of you on the list Dr. William McCarty has a book he is CO-editing with Kathleen Much on the McCarty family. In a recent E-mail I was told it is at press. From the small part of the book sent to me, it promises to be well researched. I do not have information on price or on ordering but hope to. Margaret Margaret R. Amundson, CGsm is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic proficiency evaluations.

I have not seen it. I have nothing on that couple other than having a son Daniel. I have Dennis' family and siblings and kids, etc. but nothing on he and Sarah. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Greene" <wlgreene@ij.net> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:52 AM Subject: Sarah Ball & Dennis McCarty > Has the will for Sarah Ball of Prince William County been found? She first > married Dennis McCarty and married a second time to Abram Barnes. Her > father was William Ball and she was second cousin to George Washington. > I'm told her will was never found. Some of their children lived in > Fauquier: son Dennis McCarty and wife Sinah Ball. > > > > > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz > with questions concerning this list! >

The last item on John Foley Sr. will of Stafford Co. Va. has a William McCarty. I have never been able to find who this William McCarty is or why he would receive Abraham Poole division if Abraham should die. Does anyone know who this William McCarty ?? Sondra ITEM I give and bequeath all the rest of my Estate to my dear and loving wife Sarah and her son Abraham Pool and my dear and loving Children John Foley, and my son James Foley and my Daughter Katherine Stuart to be equally divided amongst. But, if Abraham Poole should die without issue, then his part of the division shall fall to the heirs of William McCarty, and I appoint my dear and loving Wife Sarah Foley, and my son John Foley and my son James Foley Executors of mu last Will and Testament. .. First day September 1755. Tests John Foley Benja Sellman David S. Sharp, Jos.Suthard At a Court held for Stafford County, 9Th November 1762 On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:52:24 -0500 "W. Greene" <wlgreene@ij.net> writes: > Has the will for Sarah Ball of Prince William County been found? She > first > married Dennis McCarty and married a second time to Abram Barnes. > Her > father was William Ball and she was second cousin to George > Washington. > I'm told her will was never found. Some of their children lived in > Fauquier: son Dennis McCarty and wife Sinah Ball. > > > > > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz > with questions concerning this list! > > >

Has the will for Sarah Ball of Prince William County been found? She first married Dennis McCarty and married a second time to Abram Barnes. Her father was William Ball and she was second cousin to George Washington. I'm told her will was never found. Some of their children lived in Fauquier: son Dennis McCarty and wife Sinah Ball.

Velma, There is more on this William BALL. If you are interested, let me know and I will post it also. Chocy

Velma, I am not a BALL researcher; but in case you don't have this information I will post it here for you. Frederick County, Virginia Will Book No. 6 1795-1802 BALL, William and GREEN, Ann Orphans of Jesse BALL Sale Account & Settlement. Jan 1797/7 Feb 1797 Order of LANCASTER, PA: Court dated Jan 1797 to settle estate of Ann GREEN and William BALL, orphans of Jesse BALL, which was in hands of Capt. Richard SELDON. Balance due William BALL of L9.9.6. Appraisal of negroes by William YERBY, William DAVIS, and Sever GALLES recorded Frederick County Court 7 Feb 1797. (p. 245-246). Chocy RITTER/RUTTER Researcher

I have not done any BALL research to speak of, and I've scanned the posts about the BALL family lately. My BALL connection is Ann (Anne) BALL, who married Col. Edwin CONWAY III b. abt 1681-1684 Lancaster Co., I think. Hal EUSTACE said that she was the daughter of Col. Joseph BALL b. 1649 England d. 1711 Lancaster Co., Va. I have Col. William BALL d. 1669 as Col. Joseph's father. Is anyone else researching this part of the BALL family? Am I correct on these? I need dates and places on Ann (Anne) and info on Col. William, born in England and died in England? Who did he marry? Velma

I just realized transcriptions of the Fauquier County wills for John Ball (1806) and James (1745) and William (1804) Withers are on my webpage. Here's the URL that will take you to these three wills, plus some Breckinridge County Kentucky records as well. Linda http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/kentucky/ball.html Linda Sparks Starr lsstarr@pilgrimage.us http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr

The exact year of William Ball's birth is not known. He was probably born while his parents, John and Sarah (Rhoades ) Ball lived in Plymouth twp,PhiladelphiaCo.(Quakers) There were birth dates in Gwyneth Monthly Meeting records for two of his sisters, Sarah in 1712 and Hannah in 1715. Since John Ball; w b 1720,and Williams' brother, John Ball was a bondsman in the administration of the estate of their father, it can be assumed that John was the older of the two brothers. William Ball married Martha Brumfield (C) 1741. She was the daughter of Thomas and Susannah Brumfield of Amity township, Penna. Soon after their marriage William Ball of Douglas twsp., Philadelphia Co.,PA bought 150 acres in Hanover Twsp., on the Schukill River in a part of Philadelphia County that was to become Montgomery County in 1784. This land was adjacent to Wm. Penn's Manor line. DB records, Phila, Co., Pa. Bk"G" pg. 312; 02 Sept.1743 ; Bk "G" pp. 308-309, 3 Sept.1743. wit:Geo. Boone, Squire Boone Some have written that William Ball of Douglas twp; Pa.,( s/o John Ball and Sarah Rhoades), who married Martha Brumfield w w dau of Thomas Brumfield of Berks Co.,Pa was the William Ball who migrated to VA. My info shows that three of Wm Ball's eight children migrated from PA to Va and one migrated to KY. All three of William and Martha Ball's sons left Pa in their youth before their marriages. John Ball (1742-1806) m Sarah Ellen (Ellin) Payne of Stafford Va on 06 Nov. 1767; John Ball bought his first property in Fauquier C.,V 1769;later bought more property. Owned Ball's Mill. Thomas Ball (1754 PA- bef 1820 KY) married Mary Reed in 1781, dau of John Reed of Reed's Station, KY; William Ball (1762-bef 1800) married Ann Keas 09 Feb 1788 Fauquier Co.,Va. Wm Ball's daughters who remained in the area that is now Montgomery Co.,PA. were Mary Ball (Mary dc'd bef 1826 (nothing further), Sarah Ball married John Daniel 20 Jul 1775, Philadelphia, Pa.; Elizabeth Ball (1756-1797) married Issac Supplee 13 May 1777, Montgomery C.,Pa,; Martha Ball married Moses Yocum, Montgomery C.,PA. Wm Ball's dau Susanna (Susan) Ball (1746- 1800?) married Robert Fisher ((c) 1740-1785). Robert Fisher last appeared on Fauq C.,Va tax roll 1785. Apparently this couple moved to NJ and then migrated to Loudoun C.,Va., then to Fauquier C.,VA.. Robert Fisher's widow Susanna (Ball) Fisher married 2nd Peter Kemper (widower)18 Oct 1788 Fauquier C.,Va (copy of Marriage record) Prior to receiving Loudoun C.,V info from Pat Duncan and finding this lease on FHL film; I had only Fauquier Co. Deeds for this couple. Loudoun Co., Va. DBK K; pg 069; Dec 27, 1773; Thomas Ludwell Lee sells to Robert Fisher, his wife Susanna and first son Samuel, lease for life of 113 acres adj to James Winsor, John Dawson; I Robert Fisher appears on Tithables list; Loudoun Co.,Va 1772-1775..... Robert bought land adj to John Ball ..Fauq C.,V.DBK 6:4 June 1774; Robert118 ac from on 'Licking Run' from James & Hannah Bailey. Loudoun C.,V; Jul 17 1778 DBK "M" :136 Robert Fisher, his wfe Susanna and first son Samuel sell to Jacob Calor assignment of lease of 113 ac.......Fauq c.,V.; DBK 6:476 Robert Fisher bought on 27 Jul 1778 Robert Fisher bought from James and Hannah Baily of Hamilton Parish 181 ac W side of North Branch of "Licking Run" adj to John Ball's land...... I have been trying without success to find Birth Place, and parents of Robert Fisher.....Heineman in his book "Fisher Families of the Southern States" places Robert Fisher's father, Samuel in NJ...others state Robert was born in Culpeper Co.,Va.....have found no proof re:Samuel as father of Robert Fisher. Robert and Susanna did name their first son Samuel...The names Robert and Samuel are used in each successive generation.... I have also been searching for place of marriage and marriage date for Robert Fisher and Susanna Ball.. Their first son Samuel Fisher was born 1765 Hackettstown, NJ..2nd son Dunlop Fisher was b. 31 March 1767 Hacketttstown, NJ Any help re info re Robert Fisher parentage or place of marriage will be greatly appreciated.. best regards, Virginia a few of my sources: 1. "Ball Cousins" by Margaret K. Kinsey CG 2. Kemper Family of the US 3. Will;"B" proved 28th Aug 1783, Berks C.,PA.,Thomas Brumfield's 4. Will:"B" proved 24th July 1797;Solomon Brumfield's Solomon mentions his share in a Furnace for making Iron, a Grist Mill, Sands and (looks like"Mesuages?") & tenaments whatsoever in Rockingham Co.,Va. Martha Brumfield Ball's brother Solomon is Bur: Exeter "Friends" Burial ground, Berk's Co.,Pa. It is possible that Martha and other Brumfields (Broomfields) may be interred @ Exeter "Friends" Burial ground. 5. DBK 10:320; FauquierC.,V.Samuel Fisher, s/o of Robert Fisher) and wife Mary sell tract on "Licking Run" corner to John Ball and Peter Kemper.to Wm Withers Sr;. Peter Kemper and his wife Susanna release any claim they might have.............. 6. Ancestral File of descendent's of Robert Fisher & Susannna Ball's dau Mary Fisher w married Wm Mountjoy 15 April 1796 Fauq c.,Va.(this record shows Robert Fisher as born in Culpeper C.,V. I have found nothing so far in that county.....) 7. Exerpts from the bible of Joseph Fisher, grandson of Robert and Susanna Ball Fisher 8. a history of John Roades Family & descendents by Ella K. Bernard Baltimore Press 1909, Carlisle, Pa. "Decendents of William and Mary Maltby" (Mary Roades Maltby was sister to John Roades Sr.) 9. Pennsylvania Pioneer by Gans: was very good concerning the Ball Estate Association Report, but seemed to have confused Penna Balls because of similar 1st names and some other VA Ball familys, In a message dated 12/11/03 8:06:22 AM US Mountain Standard Time, lsstarr@pilgrimage.us writes: > > > >5William Ball b 1718 marr MArtha Bromfield died 1785 in Culpeper. Was a > >vestryman and G > >justice like his father inherited 400 acres of land hiiis father. they had > at > >least one Dau > > > > According to Margaret Kinsey in _Ball Cousins_, the William Ball > who married Martha Brumfield most likely died before 1774, the date of her > father's will. Martha's husband William was the son of John Ball and Sarah > Roades, Quakers from Pennsylvania. Martha was the daughter of Thomas > Brumfield who died before 28 Aug 1783 in Berks Co. PA. > > I know it is published that Samuel Ball's son William was the one > who married Martha Brumfield / Bromfield. Several years ago I tried to > find documentation for the marriage of Samuel Ball's son William, but > never located anything close to 'good documentation' for his marriage, let > alone the given name of his wife 'for sure'. I also seem to remember there > were two William Balls who died in 1785 -- one with slaves and lots of > property and the other almost destitute? My research records are now > packed away so I'm going by memory here. > > I feel Mrs. Kinsey makes a good case for her side -- and my > personal records reflect it. But I do admit to wondering how / why the > Pennsylvania Balls moved to northern Virginia and married into the Payne > family? According to her, the son of William Ball / Martha Brumfield "of > Pennsylvania" is Capt. John Ball (1742 - 1806) who married Sarah Ellen > Payne. Their son, John, married Alcey Withers and moved to Breckinridge > County, Kentucky. In the 1850s descendants received money from the estate > of Joseph Ball of Pennsylvania, which provides the background for Mrs. > Kinsey's work. Linda

John Ball was the oldest son of William Ball and Martha (Brumfield). He was born 2 Oct 1742 Pennsylvania and died 1806 in Fauquier Co. Virginia. He married Sarah Ellen Payne 6 Nov 1767 in Stafford Co. Virginia. By 23 Oct 1769 they were in Fauquier Co. Virginia for purchased land on branch of Licking Run per Deed Book 3, p. 512. He owned a mill with mill race. He served as an Ensign of Fauuqier Co. militia from 1776 to 1779 per _Virginia Militia in the Revolution_ by McAllister. His will is recorded book 4, page 301. Their children: 1. William b. 22 Aug 1768 d. 1815. He married Mary Ransdell 7 Sept 1793 per Fauquier Co. marriage records. He owned "Ball's Store" or "Ball's Inn" in the community that became known as New Baltimore in 1811. William was postmaster for New Baltimore in that year. Ms Kinsey cites _Fauquier Co. VA: 1859-1959_ Warrenton, no publishing date or place for this information. 2. John b. 4 May 1773 Fauquier Co. VA d. 14 Sept 1844 Breckinridge Co. Kentucky. He married 8 Aug 1794 Alcy Withers, daughter of William (per Fauquier Co. marriage records.) They moved to Kentucky in 1809. They had 12 children 3. Thomas b. 9 June 1775 died after 1855 Rappahannock Co. Virginia. He married Margaret Bowen of Fauquier Co. (per Victor Ball, per Fauuqier Co. marriage records show his marriage to Peggy Bowen 25 Feb 1799. 4. Joseph B. b. abt 1786 / 7 died 1853 in Fauquier Co. He married Kitty Short Chinn 6 May 1811 per Fauquier Co. marriage records. No children. 5. George Lewis b. 17 March 1790 Fauquier Co. d. 1878 Warrenton, Fauquier Co., on his father's old homestead. He married 12 Nov 1816 Kitty Kerfoot per researcher Victor Ball. _Fauquier Co. VA 1759-1959_ list him as "Capt. George Lewis Ball, War of 1812, Prominent educator". [page 154 Kinsey] 6. Sarah b. 31 Dec 1780 Fauquier Co. VA d. 13 Jan 1829 Henry Co. KY. She married 30 Dec 1801 Stephen Bowen per Fauquier Co. marriage records. 7. Mary Ellen b. 10 Oct 1770 Fauquier Co. VA d. 9 May 1855 Henry Co. KY per Victor Ball. She married George Chilton, brother of Thomas, 24 Jan 1792 per Fauquier Co. marriage records. 8. Martha b. 12 July 1783 Fauquier Co. d. 5 Aug 1855 Henry Co. KY. She married 5 Jan 1800 Eli Porter per Fauquier marriage records. They moved to Henry Co. in 1814. The above information comes from pages 142-166 _Ball Cousins_ by Margaret Kinsey, 1981 Gateway Press, Baltimore. I hope this information helps someone. I think I've covered everyone who lived in Fauquier Co. at some point during the colonial era. Linda Linda Sparks Starr lsstarr@pilgrimage.us http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr

Susannah was one of the older children of William Ball and Martha (Brumfield). Born in Pennsylvania probably during 1740s, she married first Robert Fisher. Their eldest child was born about 1765. They lived in Hackettstown, New Jersey until after 1767 when they moved to Fauquier County, Virginia. 1. Samuel b. about 1765 married 20 Dec 1785 Mary Pinkhard / Pinchard, daughter of William. (per Fauuqier Co. marriage records). He had a shop near Turkey Run on the road leading from the Court House to Falmouth in 1793 per Fauquier Deed Book 13, page 313. His will, dated 8 Aug 1840, was probated 25 Nov 1841. [Fauquier Co. Will Book 17, p. 367] 2. Dunlop b. 31 March 1767 New Jersey d. 12 March 1833 Fauquier Co. VA. He married 3 Oct 1796 per Fauquier Co. marriage records Ann Collins Herndon, daughter of John Herndon and Sarah (Chapman) Mountjoy. Ann was half-sister of Mary Fisher's husband, William Mountjoy. Dunlop was a blacksmith per Fauquier Co. Deed Book 11, p. 541. 3. William -- married Mary Polly Hand 11 Aug 1803 per Culpeper Co. marriage records. Affidavit in PA Historical Society says he left two surviving children, Fanny who marrried Robert Eastham and Thomas H. who left three minor children, all of whom were residing in Rappahannock Co. VA 4. John -- affidavit in PA Historical Society reads "died many years ago in Kentucky leaving many children as believed by this deponent by name or residence to him unknown." [p. 174-5 Kinsey] Fisher Family Association says his wife was an ALLSOP. In 1830 one John Fisher was head of family in Fauquier Co. VA 5. George married 24 Oct 1804 Dorothy "Dolly" Alsop per Culpeper Co. marriage records. They were living in Goochland Co. 1850 census. 6. Thomas (often shown as Capt. Thomas) married first 12 Jan 1801 Frances Gordon, daughter of Margaret -- per Fauquier Co. marriage records. He married second 9 FEB 1825 Martha A. Ball, with the consent of George L. Ball (Fauquier Co. marriage records). They were cousins. Thomas died 1854. He had 15 children. His will is located Fauquier Co. Will Book 25, p. 216. 7. Robert d. 1831 when the unmarried daughters of his sister Martha Kemper inherited his estate -- per Fauquier Co. Deed Book 39, p. 67 8. Mary b. 1780 Fauquier Co. VA d. 15 Aug 1846 Anderson, Kentucky. She married 19 April 1796 William Mountjoy per Fauquier Co. Marriage records. He was the son of Edward Mountjoy and Sarah Chapman. The family moved to Franklin Co. KY in 1813. William was b. 16 Jun 1772 in Fauquier Co. VA and d. 4 Feb 1855 Anderson Co. 9. Martha b. 1769 d. 3 Sept 1847 Fauquier Co. VA. She married 2 May 1787 (per Fauquier Co. VA marriage record) John KEMPER b. 24 May 1768 Fauuqier Co. VA d. 18 Dec 1856 Fauquier Co. VA. He was the son of Peter Kemper who married Martha's mother. Susannah. John was a carpenter -- per Fauquier Co. VA Deed Book 11, p. 541. They are buried in the Warrenton cemetery, Fauquier Co. Mrs. Kinsey refers readers to _Genealogy of the Kemper Family of the U.S._ by Kemper and Wright, Chicago 1899 for more information on this family. The above information came from pages 170 to 189 of Margaret Kinsey _Ball Cousins_, published 1981 by Gateway Press. Linda Sparks Starr lsstarr@pilgrimage.us http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr