Would someone with census access pls look up and transcript the family information for: CHARLES R. FLETCHER--age 59 (father-in-law) 1910 Fauquier County...enumeration Dist. 0041 Household of THOMAS FLETCHER It would be very much appreciated!! Sharleen

Let me put my two cents in about this Pennsylvania born young man joining the Army immediately after the Revolution: This is based solely on my research on one of my early Pennsylvania German ancestors. After the death of his father (don't know about mother's death), he was apprenticed to a sadler. He ran away from his apprenticeship and joined in the early 1770s with Daniel Boone, as believed by his son (Draper Manuscripts letter), Boone being then at New River. My understanding from reading various history books (not much) by Bernard Bailyn is that masters of such apprentices/indentured servants posted notices in whatever papers existed that this person was a runaway, and good physical descriptions were given. Bailyn has illustrations and examples of such posters. Bailyn's book to which I am referring Voyagers to the West. I have not done enough Pennsylvania research to learn whether the sadler posted such a notice. However, there was generally a reward for the return of such a runaway. Many of them, of course, were indentured, and had not worked off their indenture. (Do a google search for Bernard Bailyn--good books!) Had your man run away? Perhaps. Joining the Army was to emancipate himself, perhaps. Regarding military records of a later era: Old War pension records sometimes include persons who were in the Army (perhaps Navy and Marines, also) prior to the Civil War. Do not overlook these lists when you can find them. I read the filmed Army Register for 1852, and found my [later] German had enlisted, when he was practically off the boat at New Orleans. His fellow enlistees were either German or Irish. When I obtained his pension file, I learned he was in the Army before the formation of the First Cavalry. It was previously called Mounted Rifles, and they were apparently all over Indian country. (More history is in order.) Genealogy is a fascinating hobby, leading you to do reading you never expected to do!!! E.W.Wallace

There are several books concerning Revolutionary War pension records. However, one which gives a good abstract of what is contained in some Rev War pension files is this one: There are four hefty (and expensive) volumes by: Virgil D. White, Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files These abstracts pertain to pension claims initiated under the Congressional Act of about 1832. By then, many Revolutionary War veterans were deceased. However, their widows may have filed pensions, so scan these volumes if you can find them. Vol. 4 is an index to the three preceding volumes. These books are available at larger libraries and at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City as well as at DAR Library in Washington, DC. However, because of the cost of these volumes, I found that the DAR Library had them in locked cases!!! They may be at a University library near you. Try to access some online library catalogs of libraries near you. Also, check on all the other books (indexes to military and pension files) compiled by Virgil D. White. If you can access the familysearch.org website, you may find a research outline entitled something like U.S. Military Records (see below), and there will be some bibliographies, etc. The Family History Library has aout 3,000 reels of film (and so does National Archives in Washington, DC and perhaps at some of the branches) of the filmed claims. To find the exact title of these films, access the FHL catalog on the above website (familysearch) and type in Veterans Administration. There will be a LONG list, so do this when you are not in a hurry. The films are arranged in alpha order, and you should be able to order to your nearby FHC the appropriate film for your person. Even though the widow filed the claim (maybe even after she had remarried, but not likely), the file will be under the veteran's name. Not everyone got a pension. I suggest you search records such as Pierce's Register (list of Continental soldiers on the payroll), such records as rejected pension claims (they still contain genealogical information), and in Virginia, such lists as Publick Claims--claims made by ordinary citizens who provided goods and services (one of mine gave bacon) for the Revolutionary army. In other words, you may have to plow through a LOT of books. As I read filmed court records, frequently I find reference to a claim of a woman whose husband is serving in the Army, and she is asking for *welfare*. Frequently the court grants her claim. Other times, there is a claim by a disabled veteran himself. Good reason to read court records--not only do you get a flavor of the times, but sometimes you learn startling things about your own ancestor. He may not have paid taxes, he may have been punished (perhaps severely) for drunkenness or cursing, he in all probablity was sued or being sued for debt, and so on. Nearly every male shows up in the court records sooner or later--and some females also. This is the URL for the U.S.Military Records on the familysearch website I don't know whether it will go through rootsweb. If not, e-mail me privately: _http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/frameset_rg.asp?Dest=G1&Guide=Milit ary4.asp|revolutionary_war_1775_to_1783_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/frameset_rg.asp?Dest=G1&Guide=Military4.asp|revolutionary_war_1775_to_17 83) - Good luck in your searches. Pass this info along to others who may be interested in Rev War pensions. They are great reading, and, if the widow filed, there is generally LOTS of genealogical info. But get the complete file--not just selected papers. The cost is greater, but the info is generally great. E.W.Wallace _hdanw@aol.com_ (mailto:hdanw@aol.com)

refaw@alltel.net writes: > inducement, at that time, would entice a young 18 year old to join the > army other than possibly getting away from home where he could find no work. Virginia offered bounty land inducements of various kinds to enlistees. VA had vast land claims in the west not available to (or in dispute with) other states/colonies. Don't know about PA. Some colonies offered monetary rewards but that wasn't worth very much.

In a message dated 07/29/04 5:40:19 AM US Mountain Standard Time, refaw@alltel.net writes: What inducement, at that time, would entice a young 18 year old to join the army other than possibly getting away from home where he could find no work. A certain number of young men have always been "induced" to enter the military, and most people at most periods of American history have considered it an honorable profession. Was he an officer? What was his rank and how long did he serve? For some background on what was happening with the United States military at that time, which generally was downsizing from the Revolutionary War period, see http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/AMH/AMH-05.htm

Rev. Army. My ancestor joined in 1783, he said he was from Fauquier County but born in PA. My question is: The war was over all but the papers signing. What inducement, at that time, would entice a young 18 year old to join the army other than possibly getting away from home where he could find no work. bob e

msealock@rangebroadband.com writes: Sometime ago a lister posted the names of Rev War pensioners. She said she gathered this information from a book. Could you repeat the name of the book for me thanks. I wasn't the original poster but I have the following notes: Fauquier County in the Revolution, by John Gott and T. Triplett Russell, 1976 (found at the Fauquier Heritage and Preservation Society in Marshall). Miltary Records, Pension Applications and Heirs at Law of Soldiers from Fauquier County, Virginia Court Minute Books 1784-1840 (I have a couple pages copied from this, which I think I found at the same location).

Sometime ago a lister posted the names of Rev War pensioners. She said she gathered this information from a book. Could you repeat the name of the book for me thanks. Marge

I know it seems unrealistic given the average lifespan at the time, but my 4th great-grandfather, Jesse Hanson, was born in 1761 in Fauquier and died in 1852 in Randolph Co., AL. I'm sure he was underage when he married his first and his second wife because I have copies of the parental permissions for both marriages, which occured within six months of each other. (First wife died? or they divorced? I don't know.) Jesse was well into his 70s when he married for the third time. My gg-grandmother was born in 1828 in GA and she died in TX in 1920. In other words, don't discount the possibility based on dates of birth and death. Harriet

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About your Jett research, your first paragraph reads: I hope this information helps others sort out some of the Jetts of Fauquier County, Virginia. "My" William Jett was born in 1763 or 1764; served in the Virginia Militia under General Washington at Yorktown in 1781; married twice; and died in 1851. My comment: I do question whether the same William Jett who was born in 1763 may have lived to 1851. This is a mighty long lifetime for a person of that era. Of course, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson had long lives, but considering the state of medicine in that day and age, I am always skeptical of these long lives for our early ancestors. I am an oldster, and therefore, I remember when persons, especially children, died of pneumonia. Neighbors would volunteer to sit with a patient, especially a child, until he/she passed a crisis--whatever that was. In the 1960s, when I went as a mature student to graduate school, there was a several day seminar on victims of rubella at that University. We are all used to modern medicine curing us of many ills, and we get angry when it doesn't. Could you possibly have two William Jetts? Good luck with your research! E.W.Wallace

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Judith KEITH was born about 1738 (I believe in Fauquier County). She was the daughter of Rev. James KEITH and Mary Isham RANDOLPH. Judith married James KEY. I believe they were married in Fauquier County. When were they married? (probably about the 1755-1770 time frame) Where were they married? Who were witnesses? Can anyone find ANY reference to this couple? And, who was James KEY? Many sources state he was the son of Frances KEY and Ann Arnold ROSS, but this is very unlikely. The same sources that state he was the son of Francis Key state he was from Maryland. I need ANY information about James KEY. Where he was from, his parents, his siblings, his Revolutionary War service, his assets, his ANYTHING. All I know is that he had a brother named Price KEY. I have James' and Judith's lives pretty well documented after about 1795 when they moved to Mason County, KY with their children Mary Isham Key, James Key Jr., Thomas Randolph Key, Alexander Key, Peyton Randolph Key, and Marshall Key (my gr.gr.gr. grandfather). But, I don't have anything before 1795. I've been looking for years - and will certainly appreciate your help. Don Sherrill Phoenix ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

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I stayed up past my bedtime finishing the following post for the Jett Genealogy Forum. I have some other notes from my trip to Fauquier County, a year ago, which are at the moment somewhat organized, on paper and in my mind, if there are others with Jett questions or comments. Richard Clarke has an Op-Ed in yesterday's New York Times, saying that the people who analyze intelligence should be different from the people who collect it. He says that's the way they do it in the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research, and they are the only ones who came to the right conclusions about terrorism before 9/11. I mentioned this to my brother, who used to work in that Bureau, and he said that Clarke worked with him back in 1991. I thought that was interesting. Maybe I should turn these notes over to someone else to analyze, but I'm not sure anyone else could read my handwriting. +++++ I hope this information helps others sort out some of the Jetts of Fauquier County, Virginia. "My" William Jett was born in 1763 or 1764; served in the Virginia Militia under General Washington at Yorktown in 1781; married twice; and died in 1851. In the Fauquier County records there are four early leases, from Lord Fairfax (who was "proprietor" of hundreds of square miles of Virginia land, including a Fauquier tract known as Leeds Manor) to members of the Jett family. These leases ran for the lifetime of up to three named individuals. Generally, if a man had two sons, he would add them to the lease; If he had only one son, he would name his wife and son. The lease required the tenant to build a house on the land, and plant "one hundred and fifty good apple trees at fifty feet distance in regular order." The rents ran something like "40 shillings sterling payable December 25." References are to the Book and Page Number of the Fauquier County records: 1/132 To Francis Jett, Daniel Jett and Francis Jett Jr.; 1760; "beginning at a white oak standing on the bank of a large branch of thum run (Thumb Run, a creek you can find on modern maps); containing 200 acres. 2/45 To James Jett, Elizabeth Jett his wife; and William Jett his son; 7/28/1763; near Thumb Run, a lot surveyed "for Neal," near "Gerrard's lot"; 150 acres. 5/157 To John Jett and his brothers Francis Jett and Daniel Jett; 11/30/1771; adjoins William Jett's lot and also that of Jesse Norman; 238 acres. 5/165 Same day -- To William Jett, his wife Sarah and his son Peter; 11/30/1771; also adjacent to Jesse Norman; 100 acres. Conclusions: In 1763, William Jett is the newborn son of James and Elizabeth Jett. (Later statements of this William Jett's age place his birth in 1764. He either lost count, or possibly they anticipated his birth.) James Jett is possibly the younger brother of his neighbor Francis Jett. Their father may have settled in this area and acquired land by purchase, rather than lease, when it was still Prince William County. (I haven't researched those records yet.) John Jett is unmarried in 1771 and possibly the younger brother of Francis Jr. and Daniel. William Jett in the 1771 lease is somehow related to all of these characters. ++++ Fast forward to 1846. The Fairfax Estate has been in litigation for decades, since the Revolutionary War. The Marshall family in Fauquier County -- including John Marshall, our first chief justice -- buys up much of the Leeds Manor property from the Fairfax heirs in England. Then they settle with the long-term tenants, many of whom have not been paying rent for years and may not acknowledge the pre-Revolutionary title of a British landlord. 45/425 On January 8, 1846, Edward and Rebecca Marshall deed 388 acres to William Jett. The land "was given by my father, the late John Marshall Sr., to my brothers and myself." Further, "the said William Jett has been occupant of the larger part, for many years, as tenant by lease." The property "is bounded by a survey lately made thereof." Adjoining property owners include Payne, Roger s, Smith and Weaver. The selling price is $2,000, including rents accrued since January 1843. Where did this 388 acres come from? Add the 150 acres in the 1763 lease to James and his son William, to the 238 acres in the 1771 lease to the Jett brothers John, Francis Jr. and Daniel. ++++ From other sources, we know that William Jett had three sons who moved to Bond County, Illinois, around 1830. In the Fauquier County Heritage Society archives, I found a handwritten page, author unknown, which may clarify or confuse these descendants. It is titled "Came To Bond County, I'm sure I sent you this." I. Three sons of Wm Jett Revolutionary War soldier came to Bond Co. A. John, came in 1829 b. 1787 m. Elizabeth Hittle --- William (Bond Co.) --- Washington (to Wisconsin) [<---BK note; this is my ancestor] --- Jacob (Bond Co.) --- Jefferson Bond --- Benjamin F. --- Marion (Kansas) --- James M. (Bond) --- Susan --- Polly --- Linda Esther B. William B, came in 1834 m. Carissa Parker --- James W. b. 1824 --- Elizabeth --- Thomas J. (died in Mexican War) --- George W. --- Ann E. --- Frances --- Louisa J. --- Henry (Civil War) --- Owen m. Nancy Laws C. Thomas (came in 1831) m. Elizabeth Rogers (settled Jett Prairie) d. 1854 cholera --- James H. --- William A. --- Alexander Washington (Washington is underlined) m. Sarah Wright, children ------ Virginia Ann and William --- Thomas J. --- Stephen Jackson b. 1827 Fauquier Va. had son Judge Thomas Jett --- Wesley --- Suzannah --- Mary J. --- Eliza --- Sarah II. Humphrey Jett, born Va., came around 1827, m. in Tenn. Mary [no last name] --- Sally m. James M. Jett had son Humphrey and other[s?] --- Wesley -- to Montgomery Co Ill no children --- Thomas -- 2 marriages ++++ Back to William, b. 1763 in Fauquier. There are some references to his first wife being named Sybil. The source for this might be a marriage bond from December 19,1814 in which William and Sibel Jett, father and mother of Ann Jett, give their permission for her to marry Harrison Fletcher. Francis Jett is witness to the parents' giving their permission. +++ William wrote his will on 11/24/1850, and it specifically revoked an earlier will dated 8/28/1848 in the possession of James Rogers. Peter Settle was the executor of the new will. The will was filed for probate on 10/10/1851, but not until after a jury trial that resulted in a compromise settlement, presumably before a verdict was reached. The will named five children: Frances Cordelia Rogers, wife of Stephen; Nancy Settle, wife of Peter; Mary Rogers, wife of Gabriel; and sons William Henry Jett and Francis Marion Jett. Francis is still under age so his brother William H. "stands as security" for him with a bond of $15,000. The settlement provides that the 388 acre tract (see above) goes to sons William H. Jett and Francis M. Jett. The sum of $475 goes to Stephen Rogers; and the rest is equally divided (my notes are not clear on this, but probably all five children). So who was my William Jett's second wife? It seems fairly certain that she was the former Judith Settle: 28/513 8/26/1825 Deed from William Jett and Judith his wife; and William Settle and Margaret his wife; to George Settle, who paid $300 for 320 acres near Carters Run formerly occupied by William Settle, deceased, the father of Judith Jett and William Settle. In the marriage bonds of Fauquier County, there is one dated February 28, 1818 to William Jett and Judith B. Settle, daughter of William Settle. The bondsmen are William Jett and William Settle Jr. (Witness is John Keyth.) +++ In addition to my William Jett in Fauquier County, there is the other William Jett. He wrote his will in January 1817 and it was probated November 24, 1817. his children are: --- his eldest son Peter Jett, to whom he leaves a bed and furniture --- John Jett, to whom he leaves one shilling --- Isabella Hambrick, one shilling --- Susana Jett, one shilling --- Caty Jett, one shilling --- Burkett Jett, who is the executor. Burkett receives "the land that I now live on; household and kitchen furniture; farming utensils; all of my stock, moneys, bonds, notes, etc." provided he lives there and supports William's widow. This William is probably the tenant in the fourth (1771) lease listed above. His son Burkett Jett should not be confused with the Burkett (or Birkett) Jett whose will was probated in October 1802. His children were Mariah Jett, Washington Jett and Sally Jett. His administratrix was Molly Jett, now Molly Grant, and Chapman Grant. He owned 230 acres in the Manor of Leeds which couldn't be divided so his instructions were to sell it. The earlier Burkett Jett is probably the same one who is mentioned in a March 28, 1786 bill of sale (recorded at 9/127) in which he and his brother George are given one Negro girl each by their father Francis Jett, who signs with an X his mark. ++++ Fauquier County records also show a Power of Attorney from William Storke Jett of Westmoreland County, to Peter Catlett of Fauquier County, to sell a Negro man named Jennings, "which said slave I purchased of Birkett Jett of Fauquier County." (October 22, 1810, recorded at 22/23). There is also an October 16, 1820 deed from William S. Jett Jr. (his signature is William Storke Jett); George D. Ashton; and Elizabeth M. J. Ashton [from other sources: daughter of William Storke Jett Sr., brother of Jr.] of King George County, and Joseph H. Jett of Westmoreland County to William S. Jett Sr. of Westmoreland County. The property is 362 acres in Fauquier "bounded by the lands of the Turbeville heirs, Morgan, alias Roses, now Withers and Settle and the north branch of the Rappahannock River." I think this property is in the southeast corner of the county, far from the Thumb Run / Leeds Manor leases in the northwest corner. +++ On November 16, 1809, one William D. Jett sold a roan horse, 3 feather beds, furniture and utensils to John Smith, with the bill of sale not being recorded until May 29, 1810 (17/648). John Suddoth and Reuben Smith were witnesses. On the same day, Suddoth sold various personal property to John Smith, and William D. Jett was the witness. This could be either my William Jett or the other William Jett, using a middle initial not usually used; or it could be someone else passing through town or having a yard sale before moving West. There is a marriage bond for a William D. Jett, at file 2/317, but I didn't get a date or wife's name for this -- it would be before 1814.

Looking for children of Rhodam Rogers. He married (1) Mildred Nelson (2) Anna Reynolds 29 Jan 1798 in Fauquier. Thanks, Sandra

Looking for information as to who these Rogers men were (parents, siblings, etc.): Stephen Rogers - wife Frances Cordelia Jett Gabriel Rogers - wife Mary Jett Both these ladies were daughters of William Jett, Sr. who died about 1851 in Fauquier. Thanks, Sandra

This is just a note to let you know that Elva May (Evelyn) Burgess Payne Ennes died today, July 9, 2004, at about noon. She was residing at the Cherrydale Nursing Home in Arlington, VA. She was my father's mother. Elva May Burgess was the daughter of Edwin Burgess and Katie Wines. She was born, raised, and married in Fauquier Co., on a farm near New Baltimore. She was born 27 OCT 1913 and married Ross Asbury Payne of Arlington on 3 JUN 1930. Ross was a hostler, and after a few months in New York, on Long Island, Grandma wanted to come back to VA to have her first child. My father, Ross Elwood, was born 9 DEC 1931 at The Plains, Fauquier Co., VA. They moved to Arlington Co. soon after and Grandma lived there for most of her life. Grandma was 90 years, 8 mos., and 12 days. She had Altzheimers, and just had surgery for a broken hip. But I really think, as they said in the old records, she died of old age. She will be buried in National Memorial Cemetery, Falls Church, beside her two husbands. Brenda Lynne Payne Rose PS - If you have Edwin Burgess m. to Martha Mattie Utterback, please correct it. Martha was m. to his older brother, George Washington Burgess. If you have seen the marriage license for Katie Wines and Edward Burgess, it is wrong! Edward was Edwin's twin and apparently never married. But Edwin and Katie were married, had children, and are buried together in Warrenton Cemetery. Check census records, or their children's birth and marriage records for verification. I didn't know Edwin, as he died in 1948, but I knew my great-grandma Katie Burgess. She also lived to be 90+ and I attended her funeral in Feb., 1971. Brenda

Dear Sondra, Received your email, just seems things have been very slow on the website due to it being summer. Wait till fall & winter hits again, and email traffic will pick up as people are stuck in their homes. Rebecca sondrafoley@juno.com wrote: >I am receiving any mail from this list, this is just a test to see if I >get it back from the list > > >

I am receiving any mail from this list, this is just a test to see if I get it back from the list