Looking for Velma regarding a posting on the BALL family. I found where I printed it out and don't know if I responded. She was asking about Ann BALL that married Edwin CONWAY. Janean

Tosca, I agree with you. Thanks for doing us that favor, Bob. Velma

Bob, I dont see any comments on your posting of the article, but I, for one, found it to be extremely interesting. And since it pertains to genealogy in general, it should help anyone who is searching for the past and present, regardless of location. Keep those articles coming! Thank you for contributing from papers and magazines that some of us dont ever get to see. Tosca "People will never look forward to posterity who never look back to their ancestors" by Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: <BobKamman@aol.com> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 3:22 AM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Genealogy and Genetics > This article from today's New York Times does not have a connection to > Fauquier County, so I apologize to those who would prefer to see the maillist stay > on topic. I just thought it had compelling interest for anyone with an > interest in genealogy. > > July 31, 2004 New York Times > By Accident, Utah Is Proving an Ideal Genetic Laboratory > By KIRK JOHNSON > > SALT LAKE CITY- Utah is justly famous for its big families, with cousins > piled on cousins, uncles from here to Tuesday, and roots stretching back to the > Mormon pioneer days. And what once appeared to be a regional quirk is > increasingly viewed by scientists as something more: a near-perfect laboratory, arrived > at by complete accident, for the study of human kinship. > > Mormon genes are hot. > > Utah DNA is being used for an international study that seeks to identify > chromosomes linked to diseases like asthma and diabetes. Other researchers are > studying how the genes for left-handedness or longevity or even the ability to > taste bitter foods have moved through the Utah gene pool over time. A nonprofit > foundation here is compiling a giant genetic database that will try to > pinpoint - after a quick swab of a person's cheek for a DNA sample - where the > person's ancestors came from. > > "Utah's contribution to genetics has been enormous," said Dr. Mark S. Guyer, > a division director at the National Human Genome Research Institute in > Maryland. > > To a scientist, the single greatest attraction of Utah - and its biggest > distinction in a nation of rootless wanderers - is stability. For more than 150 > years, largely because of the Mormon church, the state has been a magnet to > people who mostly stayed put. A relatively small founding population was fruitful > and multiplied - aided in the 19th century by polygamy, adding a unique > wrinkle to the genetic trail. With its emphasis on family records and genealogy, the > Mormon church, officially the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, > then created a treasure trove of details about those people. > > The rest was left to science. In the 1970's, researchers at the University of > Utah began melding church records with every measure of public health and > mortality they could find, creating a vast database - now containing 1.6 million > people - that scientists can use to cross-index family trees with cancer > clusters and disease patterns and death rates. > In the 1980's, an in-depth study of the genetic makeup of 50 big Mormon > families was begun. Those families, containing more than 650 people, have since > been revisited again and again for study. Their identities are closely held > secrets, say scientists at the university's department of human genetics, but the > raw data of the group's cellular structure has been shared all over the world. > > "We know probably more about the definitions of the DNA segments in those > individuals than in any others, anywhere," said Dr. Jean Weissenbach, the > director of the French National Sequencing Center, which used samples from the Utah > families in its work on the multinational effort to define and delineate DNA, > called the Human Genome Project, which was completed last year. > > But there is also something else involved - call it marital fidelity. On > average across the United States, about 5 percent to 10 percent of people who have > DNA tested for various reasons are not really the sons or daughters of the > person they had thought of as dad, scientists say. > > In Utah, or at least in the families at the heart of the various genetics > studies over the years, the rate of "nonpaternity," as it is called, is less than > 1 percent, private industry researchers and University of Utah scientists say. > > "They stick to their knitting," said Mark Skolnick, the chief scientist at > Myriad Genetic Inc., which is one of the biggest companies in the state's > emerging genetics corridor, clustered around the University of Utah, where Dr. > Skolnick was a professor and a pioneer in the discovery of the gene marker for > breast cancer. > > People like Norm Jones also help explain how Utah is different. A missionary > who serves at the Mormon church's Family History Library across the street > from the downtown temple, Mr. Jones, 69, is a living embodiment of what the > culture of genealogy can produce. > He can trace his roots to the 1840's in Salt Lake City, through an extended > web of intermarried families in the many decades since. He can print out his > family pedigree with the tap of a few computer keys. He knows which of his > ancestors walked across the Plains to Utah, and which could afford a wagon. > > Quite often, Mr. Jones said, he wanders up to help a library patron and finds > that they have a common ancestor. > > "After a while, you're related to everybody," he said. > > There are certainly other places where genes and genealogy have merged. > Researchers in Iceland, where many family histories go back a thousand years or > more, have created detailed genetic family trees. Other groups, like the Amish > and Mennonites in the United States and Canadians from Quebec have also been > studied for their genetic distinctiveness. > What Utah offers, researchers say, is partly the power of numbers. The life > and health histories of 1.6 million Utahns, living and dead, have been > incorporated into the Utah Population Database run by the Huntsman Cancer Institute at > the University of Utah. > > Iceland, by contrast, which is probably Utah's nearest competitor as a > geneticist's paradise, has only about 280,000 people. Iceland's population, because > of its isolation, is also much more inbred than Utah's, where the gene pool > has been regularly infused with new blood as converts to the church came here > over the decades. About 70 percent of Utah's population is Mormon. > > Mormons themselves say that the church's emphasis on the importance of family > created a natural bridge to the more scientific definitions of kinship. > Researchers say there is also a strong community sense that makes people want to > contribute, even if it does not help them or their families. > > "Among Christian religions, we probably stand out as the one probably most > interested in family ties; we are a record-keeping and record-gathering people," > said Jay W. Butler, the associate international legal counsel in the church's > office of general counsel. "All of that contributes to the uniqueness of Utah > as a fertile ground for the research of families." > > There are limits, however, to what Mormon leaders will condone in using > church records for genetic research. The church strongly opposes abortion, for > example, and also frowns on the use of alcohol, tobacco, coffee and tea by church > members. So, Mr. Butler said, the church opposes any research that might lead > to more abortions, for example a gene that identified the likelihood of a > birth defect, or might encourage the use of alcohol or tobacco, for example a gene > that suggested reduced health effects from smoking or drinking. > > Managers of the population database at the University of Utah, which receives > dozens of research proposals a year, say they recall only a couple of > outright church vetoes over the years. Since then, they say, they have learned to > cull the ideas that will not be approved. More than 50 genetic research projects > are now under way, they said, on health issues like psoriasis, autism and > arthritis. > > Other pieces of Mormon history that the church is sometimes reticent to talk > about, like polygamy, are also good things for science, researchers say. The > taking of multiple wives was practiced by a minority of mostly prominent > Mormons for two or three generations, from the 1840's to 1890, when the church said > monogamy was the way of the future. > > But polygamy left a big imprint. In a state where thousands of families are > descended from polygamists, the genes of a relatively small group of men have > been amplified and etched into the biological record, researchers say, as > though with a highlighting pen. > > One male whose genes might have carried a particular mutation, for example, > could have fathered dozens of children through multiple wives - and had sons > who in turn took multiple wives themselves and had equally big families. > Scientists tracing that gene through the family branches where it was found and those > where it was absent can learn a great deal about how very specific traits > move through succeeding generations. > > Some Mormon-based organizations are now trying to bring modern genetics back > full circle, to reinforce traditional church genealogy. > > The Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation, the nonprofit group here that > compiling a global genetic database to assist Utahns and others in finding their > roots, is housed in a nondescript building a few miles from the sleek new > research centers at the University of Utah. The scientists creating the database > were hired by a billionaire medical equipment entrepreneur, James LeVoy > Sorenson. The chief scientist at the foundation, Scott R. Woodward, said the goal > was to have a DNA sample of 100,000 people within the next few years, focused > primarily on Western Europe - the place from which most Utahns are descended. > About 40,000 samples are already available, he said. > > When the database is completed, Dr. Woodward said, a person should be able to > walk into the office, provide a DNA sample, and get a report back saying what > place - perhaps down to the town or county, if not a region - his or her > genes are most likely from. > > "Genealogy was the starting place," Dr. Woodward said. "Genetics has now made > the tools to go back and verify the genealogy." > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Fauquier County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/fqva.htm > Be sure to bookmark it!!! >

Jenny, Are you moving to Arizona? Jim Burgess Chandler, Arizona -----Original Message----- From: VAFAUQUI-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:VAFAUQUI-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 6:01 AM To: VAFAUQUI-D@rootsweb.com Subject: VAFAUQUI-D Digest V04 #107 Hi Joan, I am not sure if Hannah is one I have a copy of the marriage license of. I am in the midst of packing so much stuff in anticipation of relocating to Arizona. I will try to locate my copies and see if I have her copy. Thank you for your note. Other researchers of White and James lines; Any of you White/James researchers of about the case dismissed in Fauquier Co Court in 1797. Case presented by William White against Thomas James for assault. The case was dismissed due to the death of William White in 1797. Have any of you seen this record and do you know what it was about? Check with your James contacts to see if they have seen this court document or know anything about it please. 1797 is the year my William White Sr. died. The fleshy part of genealogy is better than just the begets. Later, Ginny Keefer nee White ______________________________

Is William White related to John Y. White? Is John Y. White son of James White, all of Fauquier Co. Va. John married to a Feagins. Jean _____________ On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:14:09 -0400 "Virginia L. \"Ginny\" Keefer" <ginnykeefer@comcast.net> writes: > Hi Joan, I am not sure if Hannah is one I have a copy of the > marriage > license of. I am in the midst of packing so much stuff in > anticipation of > relocating to Arizona. I will try to locate my copies and see if I > have her > copy. Thank you for your note. > > > > Other researchers of White and James lines; > Any of you White/James researchers of about the case dismissed in > Fauquier > Co Court in 1797. Case presented by William White against Thomas > James for > assault. The case was dismissed due to the death of William White in > 1797. > Have any of you seen this record and do you know what it was about? > Check > with your James contacts to see if they have seen this court > document or > know anything about it please. 1797 is the year my William White Sr. > died. > The fleshy part of genealogy is better than just the begets. > Later, Ginny > Keefer nee White > > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > 2,500 Discussion Lists!!! USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! > Special thanks to go to RootsWeb,your generous donations to > RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Some of you may have seen my Time Line on the internet and most of you have seen my numerous requests for clues in locating the parents of my earliest know White ancestor, William White. He stated in his Rev War pension application [S1735 VA] that he had on his person proof that he was born Jan 10, 1755 at Fauquier Co VA. Of course, he must have known in 1832 that that the area where he was born was still called Prince William Co until 1759, two years after his birth. William White Sr. Will Probated Haymarket, Fauquier Co VA October 31, 1804 In the name of God, Amen! I, William White Sen., of Fauquier County being very sick and weak in body and of perfect mind and memory thanks be given unto God, calling unto mind the mortality of my body and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die, do make and ordain this, my last will and testament. That is to say, principally and first of all, I give and recommend my soul into the hands of Almighty God that gave it, and my body I recommend to the earth to be buried in a decent Christian burial, and as touching such worldly estate wherewith it has pleased God to bless me in this life, I give and demise and dispose of the same in the following manner and form.

It could not have been Mary Brockman. His children were all born much too early. His first marriage would have been ca 1750 - 1754. His son, William White Jr, stated in his own Rev War pension application [S 1735 VA] that on his person he had proof [Bible pages prob.] he was born in Fauq. Co VA. Of course, it was still called Prince William Co until 1759 but surely he knew that but did not want to rock the boat getting his pension and used the current name of the place where he was born. Thank you for looking. All I have is name Mary ____ from the D.A.R. Papers of a lady many years ago who gave that name and the name of all the children the same as are listed in the will I just located. Still looking for a Mary who married William White ca 1750-1754. I hired a lady to look in Prince William Co for my White family and she found almost nothing on White's there. My White's were heavy intermarried for years to the Bailey family who came from Westmoreland/Stafford Co VA. I suspect that is the area I will have to look in. I truly think my William White will eventually be traced back to Lancaster Co VA White's as the neighbors of William White Sr in Fauquier Co had the same surnames as those in earlier Lancaster Co VA. There is a gap that I have not been able to connect them. Appears to be only one generation missing??? Even the name Abner George signed as a witness on William White Sr's will. There was a Nicholas George Sr in Lancaster Co VA and a Nicholas George Jr in Pr Wm/Fauq. Co VA and a Parnack George was a next door neighbor of William White Sr in Fauq. Co VA. Edmond's lived in Lancaster Co VA and William Edmond was Capt. of in the French & Indian War 1761 roster that William White Sr and Carr Bailey Sr were listed on. Thank you for sharing. Ginny Keefer nee White

There is a photo with the online story -- I never met him, and of course he doesn't look anything like what I pictured. http://www.zwire.com/site/tab2.cfm?newsid=12663230&BRD=2553&PAG=461&dept_id=50 6066&rfi=6 County's historian dies at 75 By John Toler 08/10/2004 Friends, colleagues and fellow history lovers gathered Monday morning at the Marshall Baptist Church to say farewell to Fauquier native son and master historian John Kenneth Gott, who died Aug. 4 at a Fairfax Hospital due to complications from lymphoma. Mr. Gott was born in Fairfax on April 24, 1929, into a family that could trace its roots in Fauquier County back to the 1700s. While his long career as a teacher and librarian was spent in Northern Virginia, his heart never left Fauquier County, where he maintained a second home and was an influential presence most of his life. "To the people of our county -- and more specifically, the people of Marshall -- John often served as our standard bearer," said Fauquier Heritage Foundation President Bob Sinclair in his eulogy. "He loved this town and the community around it with a passion ... his supreme joy was talking about the people and events of this area." Master historian Mr. Gott served on the Fauquier Bicentennial Committee in 1959, and at the time of his death was on the committee currently planning the county's 250th anniversary in 2009. Among his accomplishments were writing or co-authoring a dozen history books, and producing countless articles and primary research works. Over the years, Mr. Gott accumulated a large collection of one-of-a-kind books, photos and other memorabilia. In order to preserve the collection and make it available to the public, he helped establish the Fauquier Heritage and Preservation Foundation in Marshall in 1993. After several years in a small building on Route 55, the foundation moved to the site of the historic Upper Goose Creek Baptist Church on U. S. 17 in Marshall. On May 30, 2003, the foundation dedicated the John Kenneth Gott Library in the old sanctuary. Anyone involved in the study of local history eventually encountered Mr. Gott -- who always willingly shared his knowledge -- or used his writings, which were meticulously researched and carefully documented. "His standards in research and writing were the same as those standards that guided him in life -- honesty, thoroughness and accuracy," said Sinclair. Devoted churchman John Gott was a lifelong member of the Marshall Baptist Church. He was remembered by local pastor Sam Jones as a compassionate, caring Christian and a humble man, in spite of his many accomplishments. "John earned his Ph.D., but very few people knew it," said Jones. "Now, how many people do you know like that?" The Rev. Reed Brown, pastor of the church in Arlington where Mr. Gott frequently attended services, recalled instances when Mr. Gott approached him about a member of the community who was in need. "John would ask me, 'Well, what are we going to do about it?,' " said the Rev. Reed. "He always got results." Love of books That John Gott would become a librarian seemed pre-ordained. Cousin Virginius "Jim" Bowen, of The Plains recalled that when the boys were young, they would listen to the radio -- shows like Dick Tracy, and other serial dramas. Not content just to listen, young "Johnny" sought out the comic book versions of the stories, starting his first library "collection." Years later, when Bowen brought his young daughters to visit Mr. Gott, they were impressed by his collection of books. Bowen credits his cousin with sparking his children's first interest in reading. "Johnny told my daughters, 'Find a book that you like and take it home with you. It's yours,' " recalled Bowen. "Over the years, they came back to John's library many times." Bowen also recalled his cousin's military service. "Johnny had earned a bachelor of science degree in library science, and when the Army was deciding where to send him, they saw he had a 'science' degree and, without considering what it was for, put him in the Chemical Corps." While stationed in Alabama, then-Pvt. Gott made the most of his spare time, going to libraries and researching the old cemeteries. A loss -- and a legacy Along with his family, the death of John Gott will be especially felt by those kindred spirits in the small local history community. There will be a great void now, but all realize that the work must go on. In his eulogy, Sinclair sought to convey the measure of the man, and provide closure. "John ... had the profound belief that God had presented him with a talent that he was obliged to share with his fellow man," said Sinclair. "We celebrate in the knowledge that he now rests in the palm of the Master's calming hand." ©Times Community Newspapers 2004 Reader Opinions Post your opinion and share your thoughts with other readers! Name: John Tuohy Date: Aug, 12 2004 Thank you for devoting so much space for a story about John Gott. I had the opportunity to run across John in many contexts, during my time with Fauquier County government and, by amazing coincidence, when I bought a house across the street from him in Arlington. My wife and I frequently would stop and chat with him (and his dogs) during our walks through the neighborhood. Although he could boast significant intellectual achievement, he remained modest and approachable. Fauquier will miss him, and, rest assured, Arlington has suffered a loss as well.

Hi Joan, I am not sure if Hannah is one I have a copy of the marriage license of. I am in the midst of packing so much stuff in anticipation of relocating to Arizona. I will try to locate my copies and see if I have her copy. Thank you for your note. Other researchers of White and James lines; Any of you White/James researchers of about the case dismissed in Fauquier Co Court in 1797. Case presented by William White against Thomas James for assault. The case was dismissed due to the death of William White in 1797. Have any of you seen this record and do you know what it was about? Check with your James contacts to see if they have seen this court document or know anything about it please. 1797 is the year my William White Sr. died. The fleshy part of genealogy is better than just the begets. Later, Ginny Keefer nee White

The cut and paste lopped off the last word of each paragraph. Sorry about that. The article can be seen at _http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50607-2004Aug8.html_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50607-2004Aug8.html) Libby In a message dated 8/13/2004 4:15:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, Libbybaker@aol.com writes: A kind and thoughtful researcher/volunteer, Scott Parham, at the Prince William County Library who had researched the Rev. James Keith for me last year, alerted me to this article in the Washington Post about the Elk Run Church. The DNA project could be very interesting. Libby Baker At Fauquier Church Site, Unearthing a Colony's Past By Lila Arzua Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, August 9, 2004; Page B01 <NITF>Working smoothly and systematically, a dozen volunteers carefully unearthed the remains of an 18th-century church in Fauquier County. Several knelt on the ground and used sharpened trowels to expose the stone foundation. Others collected the loosened dirt and sifted it in search of artifacts, using a special high-powered magnet to separate out earth-encrusted r

A kind and thoughtful researcher/volunteer, Scott Parham, at the Prince William County Library who had researched the Rev. James Keith for me last year, alerted me to this article in the Washington Post about the Elk Run Church. The DNA project could be very interesting. Libby Baker At Fauquier Church Site, Unearthing a Colony's Past By Lila Arzua Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, August 9, 2004; Page B01 <NITF>Working smoothly and systematically, a dozen volunteers carefully unearthed the remains of an 18th-century church in Fauquier County. Several knelt on the ground and used sharpened trowels to expose the stone foundation. Others collected the loosened dirt and sifted it in search of artifacts, using a special high-powered magnet to separate out earth-encrusted r <NITF>Finds were methodically placed in plastic bags and labeled with the precise location of each disc <NITF>Despite its regimented approach, the team of excavators at the Elk Run Anglican Church site is an unusual one. Only one member is a professional archaeologist; the rest are passionate ama <NITF>"You might find something no one else has and change something everybody else thought," said 12-year-old Melanie Fuechsel, a seventh-grader who hopes to become an archaeologist. As she sifted through loose dirt, she spotted what she thought might be a piece of quartz. Upon further inspection, the object turned out to be a fragment of a small coin -- a Spanish real, minted in Seville in the <NITF>Every Saturday during the summer, anyone who wants to can comb through the remains of Elk Run Anglican Church and participate in archaeological study usually reserved for ex <NITF>"All the bits and pieces, the nails and the pottery, rubble and glass tell us the history about Colonial Virginia church life," said Brenda Branscome, a former history teacher who says her interest in archaeology began years ago in the sandbox. She has spent three seasons digging at the <NITF>A number of the volunteers, in fact, are still in elementary school. On a recent Saturday, Richard Loving of Catlett brought a troop of Scouts, including his sons -- Bailey, 9, and Marshall, 7 -- and promised them a fishing trip after a morning of di <NITF>With his father's help, Marshall concentrated on brushing the dust off a half-buried brick. Bailey, who had helped at the site before, chose his favorite task -- pushing buckets' worth of soil through the s <NITF>"I get to play in the dirt," bragged Bailey, pulling his arms from the mound of earth he was coaxing through a large square sieve. He proudly showed off a piece of glazed <NITF>Elk Run Anglican Church was one of the earliest churches in the Piedmont area of Virginia. It was built during the 1750s, replacing a wooden chapel on the site. The first rector was the Rev. James Keith, who was the maternal grandfather of John Marshall, chief justice of the United S <NITF>Ned Browning, a descendant of Pastor Keith's whose family came to own the church site in the 20th century, donated the land and the ruins of the church to St. Stephen's, an Episcopal church about 10 miles north in Catlett. Browning died of cancer in 1999. Edward F. Dandar Jr., a retired Army colonel and the historian of St. Stephen's, has been in charge of the excavation <NITF>Starting in late spring, Dandar dedicates nearly every weekend to managing the dig: taking off the waterproof tarpaulin that protects the site during the week, coordinating the corps of volunteers and cataloguing the finds, which have included pottery shards, 3,000-year-old arrowheads and pieces of a German 18th-century porcelain jug. In the winter, volunteers pack the site with hay until the next digging season and concentrate on cleaning and identifying arti <NITF>Since 2000, archaeologist John Eddins, 52, has donated his expertise to the excav <NITF>Eddins said that inviting volunteers from the community to help dig is becoming an increasingly popular way to pursue projects that don't have funding. The trick, he said, is to make sure that the helpers, both young and old, are properly trained and moni <NITF>For example, at first it was difficult to discern what was foundation and what was the rubble around it. Volunteers were taught to use a specialized probe to gently tap away dirt and rocks to expose the original wall without destroyi <NITF>"A lot of times, folks go out there and just dig, and the information isn't recorded properly and then lost" at unsupervised digs, Eddins <NITF>While further study is necessary to determine the height and appearance of the church, Eddins and others speculate that it somewhat resembled Aquia Church in Stafford, another brick cruciform church that was built in the 1750s and remains open as an Episcopal c <NITF>The group's goal is to finish digging by October and then to get the permits necessary to uncover the graves in the adjacent cemetery and conduct DNA tests on some of the remains. The plan is eventually to build a historic park where church services might be held. Dandar envisions the outline of the foundation protected with a layer of Colonial bricks, with a corner section enclosed in plexiglass-like material for the public to ex <NITF>"It's provided us with a living expression of faith that was here long before the Episcopal church," said the Rev. Roma W. Maycock, who had been the rector of St. Stephen's for 19 years. Working in gardening gloves and khakis, she has found her share of glass shards in the <NITF>Maycock said that while the endeavor has strengthened an appreciation for the past among newcomers and longtime residents, sustaining the congregation's interest -- and drawing others to the project -- has become a challenge as the years <NITF>"We want things so fast in our society, it's hard to have the patience required for thorough, diligent archaeology," she

Ginny, I'm so glad for you. You've been good to help others, me included. Velma

Most of you have seen my queries for many years asking for clues trying to locate the parents of my earliest proven ancestor, William White. In his Rev War pension application {S1735 VA] filed in 1832 from Lincoln Co TN, he stated that on his person he had proof that he was born Jan. 10, 1755 at Fauquier Co VA. [We know it was still called Prince William Co until 1759 but he must have known that too and did not want to rock the boat in getting his pension so listed the current name of where he was born]. A wonderful lady from Fauquier Co sent me the information of where to find his will. A wonderful lady sent me the information that Woodruff Drawers in Fauquier Co Virginia's Loose Papers had the Will of William White Sr. I had thought this same William White Sr was the father of my William but all the papers stating his children's names never included a son, William White Jr. I thought that odd as all large families named a son after the father. ********** William White,Will, October.1804, Fauquier Co Probate Box 40, 1823-002 In the name of God, Amen! I, William White Sr., of Fauquier County, being very sick and weak and of perfect mind and memory thanks be to God, calling unto mind the mortality of my body and knowing that it is appointed for all men to die, do make and ordain, this my last will and testament. That is to say, principally and first of all, I give and recommend my soul into the hands of Almighty God that gave it, and my body I recommend to the earth to be buried in a decent, Christian burial, and as touching such worldly estate wherewith it has pleased God to bless me in this life, I give, demise and dispose of the same in the following manner and form. First, I give and bequeath to Ann, my dearly beloved wife, all my estate so long as she liveth or widowhood, and at her death or marriage, it is my desire that all of my estate should be sold and equally divided amongst the seven children named; John White, BEtty White, Nancy White, Sally White, Carr White, Hanna White and Mima White. N.B. if any should be dead, the money to be divided amongst the living children. And my son, William White, I give and bequeath one shilling Virginia currency & never no more of my Estate nor his heirs. I give and bequeath to my son, John White, a Negro girl named Fanny/Janny? and all her increase as a legacy left him & his heirs forever. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this seventh day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety six. William White + Sr. Crop? Signed, sealed, published, pronounced and declared by the said Wm. White Senr. as his last will and Testament in the presence of us, who in his presence and in the presence of each other, have hereunto subscribed our names. Thomas Bailey Elijah Robinson Abner George ************** William White is listed in D.A.R. by a lady from College Park, Maryland many years ago. She stated his wife's name was Mary ___. This lady was named as the mother of his children named in the will and Ann was his second wife. Ann was widow of James Bailey. I am unsure of who this James Bailey was. Perhaps a son of Carr Bailey Sr?? William White Sr and wife Mary ___? Children; 1. Elizabeth Ann died after May 23, 1816, married Feb. 28, 1786 Fauquier Co VA to James Bailey [whose son was he?] 2. Jemima/Mima died after May 23, 1816, married 1st Jan 10, 1791 Fauquier Co VA to George Greene Waddell. Mima md 2nd in Mason Co KY to Stephen Wade abt 1847. 3. William White Jr. born 10 Jan 1755, married first _____ [possibly in 1787 to Lettice? ], md 2nd in NC to Elizabeth ____ born 1775. They relocated to Lincoln Co TN about 1819 and both died there. William was Rev War soldier above listed. [my direct line] 4. John White born ca 1758, died aft. May 22, 1816, married his father's widow, Ann [Bailey] White. John was also Rev War soldier and mentioned in his brother William White's pension application. I have not located his pension application. 5. Nancy born 1764, died aft May 22, 1816. Nancy married Oct 31, 1786 Fauquier Co VA to William Waddell Sr. 6. Hannah born ca 1765, died 1840 in Clay Co KY. Married Dec 13, 1787 Fauquier Co VA to Thomas Russell James. 7. Sarah born ca 1768, died aft May 16, 1816 to George Roach. They were living in Prince William Co VA when her father died. 8. Carr born ca 1777, died aft May 16, 1816. Married Feb 19, 1795 to Nancy Donaldson, dau. of John. I have a copy of most of these children's marriages. All first marriages were in Fauquier Co VA. William White Jr was living on Reedy Creek in Stokes Co NC section that was called Rowan Co NC when his father died. Sarah Roach was living in Prince William Co VA as stated above when her father died and her husband, George Roach, handled the inventory of William White Sr's estate in 1804 with William White's neighbor, William Hunton. May 22, 1816, George Roach received legal authorization from all of the of her children who were then living in Mason Co KY. I believe that Mason Co KY land was bounty land for William White Sr but have not found it listed yet. William Roach lived next door to William White Sr's land and purchased it from the estate. *** Interesting fact; Haymarket District Court 31st of October, 1804, Fauquier County, Virginia This last will and testament of William White Send. deceased, was presented and proven by the oaths of Thomas Bailey and Abner George, witnesses thereto. The 1st November, 1804 George Roach Plaintiff against Ann White Upon a motion to reject admitting to record the will of William White dec'd which was yesterday proved by two subscribing witnesses, it is ordered by the Court that the said will be admitted to record. 2nd November, 1804 Administration with the will annexed is granted unto Ann White of the Estate of William White deceased. William Hunton Sr, Owen Thomas, Wililam Ball and Thomas Hunton or any three of them being first are appointed to appriase the Estaate of the said William White and return the appraisement to the Court. Teste I. [?] Lawson, C.D.C. A copy Teste M.B. Sinclair, Clk of Prince William County Superior Court, Virginia *** The will was finally completely probated in 1825. John White, son of William White Sr and his first wife, Mary __?, married his father's 2nd wife, the widow, Ann Bailey. She was John's step mother. There is no mention of why William White Sr. disinherited his son, William White Jr. William White Jr was at court when the White children had to force their step mother, Ann [Bailey] White to probate the will so they would get their share. I assume he finally did receive an inheritance but can't be positive. If not, why did he bother going back to Fauquier Court hearings? In the 1840 book of Soldiers still alive and receiving war pensions, there is a John White, age 82, living with Caleb White in northern division of Mason Co KY. John did receive a RW pension but I do not recognize him in the John White pensioners in the RW pensioners books I have. William White stated his brother, John, enlisted under same Capt Shelton that William did. He said John was camped at Alexandria when William was on his way home after his own tour ended. He found John too ill to continue and took John's place for a few weeks. John caught up and resumed his place on a march to Williamsburg, VA. William White re-enlisted in the army later but paid someone to finish his second tour just before the end of the war due to ill health of William White. I have no idea of the maiden name of Ann Bailey, widow of James. Nor of who James Bailey was. Then there is William White Sr's daughter, Elizabeth White who married James Bailey Feb 28, 1786 in Fauquier Co VA. Who was this James Bailey? Any help appreciated. Ginny Keefer

I think that we may have a connection via my Holtzclaw family as Elizabeth Holtzclaw, the daughter of John and Catherine[Russell] Holtzclaw, married John Duncan, Jr. Let me look thru my info as I think that BC Holtzclaw has traced this family. One of my Germanna cousins also has a Mauzy connection and I'll forward your info on to her. Barb Pric

Charlene, Have you and I talked about the WITHERS family? I have a Barbara WITHERS, who married John ALLEN, Sr.. I have no other information at all on her. Do you know who her parents were? Thank you. Velma

Someone has to connect to this! Also check my signature names on my Dad's side--Va>Ky>Mo William SMITH b. 1690 Old Rappahannock d. 1741 King George(formerly Westmoreland and Stafford) m. c 1715 Margery ROWLEY(Wm. Rowley and Mary King) b. 1692 Old Rappahannock>Richmond Co., Va. William SMITH 1690-1741 had issue who married into my PORTER, BALL, DONIPHAN My ancestor Mary (unk) was the widow of William SMITH d. 1671 Westmoreland who lived "across from John WASHINGTON" Mary then married my ancestor Samuel REEDS/READE/READES/REEDE, etc. c1645-1698 d. Westmoreland. Mary's daughter by her first marriage to William SMITH--Elizabeth SMITH-- m. a Daniel BROWNE and issue m. MUNDAY, OLIVE, ALLEN Mary may have had a sister Hannah d. 1679 Kent Co., MD m. Vincent ATCHISON, HATCHESON, etc. ATCHISON --Colonial Families of Maryland 1600-1900s Colonial Families of the Eastern Shore, Vol. 1, The Atchison (Hatchison) Family, pg 11 Ephraim, m. 11 Sep 1800, in MO Co., by Rev. Wilson Lee, Ruth Simpson (Md. Hist. Soc., p. 205). James, of PG Co., m. by 1722, Mary Coner, dau. of Richard and Mary (PG Wills 1:127, 451). John, of PG Co., m. by 1744, Mary Ann (N) (Hodges cites Liber 24:12). Vincent, m. by 1673, Hannah (N) (Hodges cites Warrants 17:579). Vincent, m. by 11 Nov 1673, Hannah (N), whose sister Mary was wife and extx. of William Smith (ARMD 65:127, 137). The REEDS lived near PIPER, JETT, GERARD, POPE, TUCKER, KENDALL, CLAYTOR, BERRYMAN Wills of Westmoreland Co., Va. REED, SAMUEL, 7 October 1698; 26 October 1698. Land to son John; my two grandsons David and John Peper(sic PIPER) at age of 10 2 heifers; land to son William, sword, gun etc; daughters Margaret, Elizabeth and Mary stock, household goods. Westmoreland Co., Va. Deeds and Wills No. 2, 1691-1699, Abstracted and Compiled by John Frederick Dorman Pages 180-180a Will of Samuel Reeds, being weak in body, dated 7 Oct. 1698. Unto my son John Reades the land he doth now live on. Also my horse tickler, bridle and saddle, one spotted burrow, one small gun, two pistols, one flock bed and furniture, in consideration that my son John deliver unto my two grandsons David and John Piper at the age of ten years old two yearling heifers. Also one iron pestle and the half of my working tools and all my wearing cloaths. Unto my son William Reedes the land he is seated on and my house and plantation after my two daughters are married, they having the use of it till then. Also my gun called Scotchman with my sword and half my worling tools, and after my daughters are married I give him one iron pott with hooks and rack, they having the use of them till then. Also my large steelyards. Unto my daughter Margaret my large brass kettle and my small steelyards. Unto my daughter Mary two cows with one bull and one heifer yearling, one old mare with bridle and saddle and the feather bed I lay on myself with its furniture. Unto my daughter Elizabeth one cow and cow calf, one two years old heifer and one two years old bull, and one two years old mare, with the feather bed she lies on herself with its furniture. All the rest of my household stuff, stock of hoggs and my crop of tobacco and corn to be equally divided between my two daughters Mary and Elizabeth Reedes. My loving son John Reedes executor. Everyone of my children be immediately possessed with such part of my estateas is given them. Samuell Reedes Wit: Thos. Bowcock, Ellenor Hornbuncle. 26 Oct. 1698. Proved by Thomas Bowcock and Ellenor Hornbunkle. Probate granted to John Reeds, executor. 1703, March 31 - Benja. Berryman and Nathaniel Pope witnesses to Samuel Reeds’ Will, (land division) sons William Reed and John Reeds. Westmoreland Co. Charlene Reeds Ebeling Dad's Side REEDS, JAMESON, HALBERT, DUNCAN, BRADFORD, MAUZY, PORTER, BALL, HACKLEY, CORBIN, MOTT, PIGG, SHIPPEY, RICHARDSON, SIMS, BOLLING, CARTER(Giles, Theodorick), BAIRD, BELL, CRAIG, WEAVER, WITHERS, CONYERS, WOOD, ISRAEL, CUNNINGHAM, MICHAUX, WADDILL, RANDOLPH, ISHAM, so far--Va>Ky>Mo WHITE, HAGERTY, FLATLEY--Ire>NY/Ontario Canada>Green Bay Mom's Side CORNWELL(NY), BUTZ, ANSCHICKS, STEDMAN, PATTERMAN, THULL, MEHAN, REITZ, DIEHL, ROMIG/ROMICH, KNAUSS, PHLIEGER

Joseph in the title needs parents and Lydia needs a last name. Many have said it was HOOE, but I am not sure. The parents of Joseph seemed to be John DUNCAN and Dinah BRADFORD. Someone must connect. I'm related to half of Westmoreland and Fauquier! I have a large data base and am more than willing to share--check names in my signature on Dad's side. I am descended from Joseph and Lydia's daughter Jemima "Mima" DUNCAN b. c. 1746 Fauquier m. John MAUZY, AmRev b. c. 1745 Fauquier d. 3/3/1802 Lincoln Co., Ky--so Henry MAUZY(John and Hester Conyers) b. 1721 Stafford Co., Va. d. 1804 Warrenton, Fauquier Co., Va. m. 11/11/1744 Stafford Ann Sophia WITHERS (James and Elizabeth Keene)b. 10/10/1722 Fauquier Co. VA Will Book No. 2, A-Z, 1759 to 1920 (from Mildred Hofer 1980 with permission to share with others) Pg.112. Duncan, Joseph - Rec. Book 2, page 284; Dated: Feb. 13, 1792; Died: Dec. 13, 1792. Wife: Lydia; Son: Joseph; Son: Howsen (Howsan); Daus. Myma (Jemima) Mauzy, Rose Withers, Hannah Porter, Mary Wright. Executors: Joseph and Howsen Duncan, Sons; and Sons-in-Law Joseph O'Bannon and John Mauzy. Wit: John Kerr, Peter Kemper, James Parr and John Downing. A list of the buyers at the estate sale of Joseph Duncan 30th Nov. 1797: Sold to: Howsen Duncan, Sarah Kerr, Joseph Duncan, John Mauzy, Lydia Duncan, Ebbin Porter, John Withers, Wm. Withers, Lewis Withers, John O'Bannon, Nathaneal Rector, Wm. Pickett, Enoch K. Withers, Armistead Holder, Archibald Duncan, James Edmonds, and Walker or Walter Adams. Rec. Feb. 25, 1799. Final Division of Joseph Duncan Estate, Apr. 28, 1800. DUNCAN, Lydia and Joseph, of Fauquier Co., dec'd., his ex., Howsen Duncan and Joseph Mauzy and her ex., Howsen Duncan, will sell the remaining of both estates. (Virginia Herald 29 Nov. 1797) Lyddia Duncan will--01/2/1795 Fauquier Co., Va. Dau: Lyddia O'Bannon, wife of John O'Bannon--Negro Boy Son: Joseph Duncan-- Negro Boy Son: Howsen Duncan--Negro Boy Dau: Jemima Mauzy--wife of John Mauzy--Negro Boy Dau: Hannah Porter, wife of Ebenezer Porter--Negro Boy Exors: sons Joseph and Howsen Duncan Signed: Lyddia (her mark X) Duncan Wit.: Enoch K. Withers, Moses Duncan, John Kerr Proved 7/24/1797, by o. of Enoch K. Withers and Moses Duncan. Howsen Duncan made o. and with James Withers and John Withers, his securities under a bond of $3,000, granted cert. to obtain probate WILL of Lydia DUNCAN3-66, 67: 2 Oct. 1795, will of Lyddia (X) Duncan; dau. Lyddia O'Bannon wife of John O'Bannon; son Joseph Duncan; son Howson Duncan; dau. Jemimah Mauzy wife of John Mauzy; dau. Hannah Porter wife of Ebenezer Porter; remainder equally divided between my aforesaid children namely Lyddia O'Bannon, Joseph Duncan, Howson Duncan, Jemima ... and Hannah Porter (faint copy). Exec. Joseph Duncan and Howson Duncan. Wit. Enoch K. Withers, Mosses Duncan, John Kerr. Prob. 24 July 1797. James Withers and John Withers Sec. for Howson Duncan. (FHL film 31,567) 3-251: Feb. 1800 and 28 April same year, divide the estate of Joseph Duncan amongst his representatives, viz, Elizabeth O'Bannon, Joseph Duncan, Jamima Mauzy, Hannah Porter, Rose Withers deceased and Howson Duncan, legatees to the said estate; division of estate of Lydia Duncan among her representatives ... Elizabeth O'Bannon, Joseph Duncan, Jamima ... ... Porter and Howson Duncan (too faint to read) (FHL film 3! 1,567) Is there anyone who is able to assist? Charlene Reeds Ebeling Dad's Side REEDS, JAMESON, HALBERT, DUNCAN, BRADFORD, MAUZY, PORTER, BALL, HACKLEY, CORBIN, MOTT, PIGG, SHIPPEY, RICHARDSON, SIMS, BOLLING, CARTER(Giles, Theodorick), BAIRD, BELL, CRAIG, WEAVER, WITHERS, CONYERS, WOOD, ISRAEL, CUNNINGHAM, MICHAUX, WADDILL, RANDOLPH, ISHAM, so far--Va>Ky>Mo WHITE, HAGERTY, FLATLEY--Ire>NY/Ontario Canada>Green Bay Mom's Side CORNWELL(NY), BUTZ, ANSCHICKS, STEDMAN, PATTERMAN, THULL, MEHAN, REITZ, DIEHL, ROMIG/ROMICH, KNAUSS, PHLIEGER

Dear Cockrill & Burgess Cousins, Two announcements on the Cockrill family. First - I have set up a Cockrill DNA project at www.familytreedna.com Go to Surname Project and then down to Cockrill or Burgess! Go Direct: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=S58877&special=true Purpose to have male Cockrill Family members from EVERY Cockrill line in so that we can match early Cockrill family to see which families if any are related. Our goal is to find one Cockrill male who can trace his line back to every early Cockrill family particularly in Northern Virginia. We may not have the documentation that we would like to have, but we can with DNA evidence have 100% proof as to which families are related. IMPORTANT - It is critical to be sure that the Cockrill male DNA selected go directly to an early or not so early Cockrill. The cost is $99.00 per Cockrill male. Perhaps families could join together in the cost. Example 4 people contribute $25.00 to lower the cost per family. Apparently it takes about two months to receive a report. It is my hope that families will take the initiative to see that this happens. It is my opinion that many of the families are related. I am especially curious to compare William Cockril of King George and William Cockrill who married Frances Jones. (Larry & Rebecca please take special notice!) Second - there is a possibility that I can print more copies of Cockrill Families of Northern Virginia. I look forward to hearing from family members who would like a copy, as I am considering printing more copies. There will be NO corrections or additions! Sorry! Please let me know. I have tried to reach several member of the Cockrill family with this email. I apologize in advance if you receive two or more messages. If you are not interested in this project please let me know and I will remove your name from the mailing list. Before sending me a lot of emails on DNA please read the information on www.familytreedna.com (I am not an expert on DNA - but would love to know which families are related and which are not. By the way Families in England are more than welcome! Their web site can answer questions far better than I. Contact male Cockrill family members and ask them to volunteer. Share the cost and get this project moving. Families all accross America are doing this and are having fantastic results. This project belongs to all members of the Cockrill family! Please forward this to all Cockrill family members who might be interested. I love the Cockrill Family! Jim Burgess Cockrill Family DNA Project

I am researching the Marshall family whose most of my TURNER ancestor's children were born in their house in "Waterloo", Fauquier County, VA, in 1850. JeanBout@Juno.Com _________ On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:13:49 EDT CE3227PH@aol.com writes: > Is anyone on this list researching the Marshalls and Lovells > of this > county? If so, I'd like to talk with you. > J.H. > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz > with questions concerning this list! > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Is anyone on this list researching the Marshalls and Lovells of this county? If so, I'd like to talk with you. J.H.