I have much DUNCAN info because my great grandfather Henry Franklin REEDS 1834-1914 m. 2) Alice Irene DUNCAN 1854-1896 of Lincoln Co., Missouri. She is of the Rev. Lewis DUNCAN line(James, William, William, William) from Culpeper Co., Va. Now I have discovered that said Henry REEDS was also of the DUNCANs, but I have a brick wall--Joseph DUNCAN 1710 King Geo. Co., Va. -1792 Fauquier Co., Va. m. 1733 Westmoreland Co., Va. Lyddia "Ledy" HOOE b. bef 1718 d. bef 7/24/1797 Fauquier Co., Va. I am descended through Jemima "Myma" DUNCAN m. John MAUZY(Have much on Mauzy) Ledy HOOE must connect to Howson HOOE. "Abstracts of Fauquier Co. VA Wills, Inventories and Accounts 1759-1800" by John K. Gott, 1972 (Memphis, TN, Gen. Soc. Library #2247, from Evelyn 6/23/84; FHL book 975.5275 P2g, SLC 2/18/92) Will Book 2, pg.284-5: Joseph Duncan, will, 13 Feb. 1792. Wife Lydia, negroes, plantation whereon I now live during her natural life and no longer, 328 acres, all estate, real and personal. Children: Joseph, Myma Mauzy, Rose Withers, Hannah Porter, Housen, Mary Wright decd.; negroes heretofore given them. Son Housen, after death of wife, plantation of 328 acres. Remainder to be sold and money equally divided between dau. Lydia Obannon, son Joseph Duncan, dau. Myma Mauzy, dau. Rose Withers, dau. Hannah Porter, and son Housen Duncan. Exors. sons Joseph and Housen Duncan, sons-in-law John Obannon and John Mauzy. Signed Joseph (x) Duncan. Wit. John (x) Kerr, Peter Kemper, James (x) Parr, John Downing. Proved 23 Sept. 1793 by oath of John Kerr and James Parr. Howsen Duncan and John Obannon, with Eppa Timberlake and John P. Harrison their securities, granted cert. to obtain probate. (p.223-4) Will Book 3, pg.66-7: Lyddia Duncan, will, 2 Oct. 1795. Dau. Lyddia O'Bannon, wife of John O'Bannon, negro boy; son Joseph Duncan, negro boy; son Howsen Duncan, negro boy; dau. Jemimah Mauzy, wife of John Mauzy, negro woman; dau. Hannah Porter, wife of Ebenezer Porter, negro boy. Exors. sons Joseph and Howsen Duncan. Signed Lyddia (x) Duncan. Wit. Enoch K. Withers, Moses Duncan, John Kerr. Proved 24 July 1797 by oath of Enoch K. Withers and Moses Duncan. Howsen Duncan made oath and, with James Withers and John Withers his securities under bond of $3000, granted cert. to obtain probate. (p.273) Kentucky Kinfolks, Genealogy From the Louisville Herald Post, 1930’s. Permission of Kentucky Explorer, Volume 12, Number 8, February 1998. Lincoln County, submitter unknown. Joseph Duncan lived and died (will probated October 10, 1793, Fauquier County Will Book) in Fauquier County, Virginia, near the present site of Morrisville, with his wife Lydia. About 1803, his son, Howson Hooe Duncan, moved to Lincoln County, Kentucky, with his wife, Agnes Johnson, daughter of Samuel, buying about 100 acres on the east side of the road from Danville to Col. Shelby’s on the waters of Clarke’s Run. This Howson had a son, Joseph Duncan, born July 27, 1781, in Fauquier County, Virginia, who came to Kentucky, about 1803, with his father. Joseph was married in Lincoln County, Kentucky to Polly (Mary) Hite, August 15, 1806. Joseph and his wife moved to Hardin County, Kentucky, about 1825, and both died there. Joseph, about 1834 and Polly, in the 1860’s. Polly ’s father came from Virginia with Col. Evan Rogers and they settled near each other in the vicinity of Danville. She had a brother, Reed Hite, who married Lucinda Rogers (daughter of Col. Evan Rogers), June 11, 1829, Mercer County, Kentucky, and then started for the west. They went as far as Missouri, stayed awhile, and then returned to Kentucky, settling near Lebanon. Polly also had a sister, Priscilla, who married William McGraw, January 23, 1812. Don’t know the parents of Polly Hite. Howson Hooe Duncan married Lucretia Wortham of Bardstown, Kentucky, August 1, 1836, with Samuel Ross as guardian. Not sure of Lucretia’s parents or where they came from. Prince William Co. VA Deeds L-160: 26 Dec. 1748, William Bumburry & wife Elizabeth of Stafford Co. VA to Joseph Duncan of Prince William Co., lease 150 acres on roadside near poplar root bridge at a branch of Turkey run, line of Col Page. Mention Joseph Duncom and Ledy his wife. Wit. Weth Conway, Tho. Bunbury Jun., William (X) Duncom. (FHL film 33,106) Charlene Reeds Ebeling Dad's Side REEDS, JAMESON, HALBERT, DUNCAN, MAUZY, PORTER, BALL, HACKLEY, CORBIN, MOTT, PIGG, SHIPPEY, RICHARDSON, SIMS, BOLLING, CARTER(Giles, Theodorick), BAIRD, BELL, CRAIG, WEAVER, WITHERS, CONYERS, WOOD, ISRAEL, CUNNINGHAM, MICHAUX, WADDILL, RANDOLPH, ISHAM, so far--Va>Ky>Mo WHITE, HAGERTY, FLATLEY--Ire>NY/Ontario Canada>Green Bay Mom's Side CORNWELL(NY), BUTZ, ANSCHICKS, STEDMAN, PATTERMAN, THULL, MEHAN, REITZ, DIEHL, ROMIG/ROMICH, KNAUSS, PHLIEGER

Yes, Elizabeth was a daughter of my direct line, William White Sr and wife Mary. William White Sr fought in French & Indian War under Capt. William Edmonds out of Fauqueir Co VA. He is listed in 1761 roster. William White born ca 1730, died ca Oct 1804 Haymarket, Prince William Co VA. Married 1st Mary ___ the mother of all of her children; 1.Elizabeth md Feb 28, 1786 James Bailey, son of Carr Bailey Sr who fought with William White Sr in Fr & In War. 2. Jemima/Mima md 1st George Greene Waddell Jan 10, 1791 Fauq.Co VA, md 2nd 1847 Stephen Wade Mason Co KY. 3. John White b 1753, Rev War soldier, md Ann White, thought to be his widowed step mother??? Needs more work to be sure. 4. William White Jr. Rev War soldier, S 1735 VA, born 10 Jan 1755, Pr Wm Co VA, died May 1833 Lincoln Co TN, md 1st unk. Md 2nd Elizabeth ___ born 1775 NC. [my direct line] 5. Nancy Ann b 1764 Fauq. Co md Oct 31, 1786 William Waddell Sr. 6. Hannah born ca 1765 Fauq. Co VA, md Dec 13, 1787 Thomas Russell James in Fauq. Co VA. 7. Sarah b ca 1768 Fauq. Co VA. md Aug 25, 1789 Fauq. Co VA. Lived in Pr Wm Co VA at least from 1804 to 1816. George was deceased before 1816. George was co-appraiser of estate of his father in law with Wm's neighbor, William Hunton, in 1804 and George sold the estate to William Hunton. 8. Carr White b ca 1777 Fauq. Co, married Nancy Donaldson, dau. of John, Feb 19, 1795. Carr was underage and his father made his X to allow the marriage. William White Sr. married 2nd Ann Bailey, widow of James Bailey. Am not sure whose son this James was. Need some help with my Bailey's. William White Jr. fought in Rev War with Carr Bailey Jr. There were many marriages between these two families. I have copy of Donna Beer's book on Southern Bailey's but it only mentions Elizabeth White's marriage to James Bailey, son of Carr Bailey Sr. No other White marriage. Donna Beer's also wrote a book about Northern Bailey family. Need to check that book too. Any help appreciated. Ginny Keefer

Sidney F. Chapman m. Ann A.(?) Sharpe 9 Jan 1815 in Fauquier Co. John Fitzhugh m. Frances Sharpe 28 Apr 1823 in Fauquier Co. with Sidney F. Chapman as bondsman. I am guessing Ann & Frances Sharpe were sisters. Does anyone know if this is true and who were their parents? Elmer Compton Sarasota, FL --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

If he was the same person, then he was either father or brother of my ancestor JOHN Y. WHITE of Fauquier Co. Va. He and his wife Lucy Feagans had a daughter Martha Jane White who married William Toliver Turner in 1846. JeanBout@Juno.Com _____________________________ On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:54:16 -0400 "Virginia L. \"Ginny\" Keefer" <ginnykeefer@comcast.net> writes: > Anyone know of a Mary Chapman who married William White about > 1775-1785 in > Fauquier Co VA. Relocated to Rowan Co portion that became Stokes Co > NC abt > 1795. Need information. Had child named Edith Chapman White who > married > James Tucker in Stokes Co NC and all relocated to Lincoln Co TN > prior to > 1820 census. > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > 2,500 Discussion Lists!!! USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! > Special thanks to go to RootsWeb,your generous donations to > RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > > > ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today!

A lady named Diettrick lived in College Park, Maryland and filed D.A.R. for my William White born ca 1730. She filed for his daughter, Hannah White, who married Thomas Russell James in Fauquier Co VA. She was accepted. She listed William White's wife as Mary ____. Mary would have died prior to William. William made out his will in 1797 at Haymarket, Prince William Co VA and listed his children and second wife, Ann. William died in Oct 1804 and his land was then called Fauqueir Co VA. Haymarket was a bustling place when he lived there. It was located where the main road from PA went down to GA. etc south. I have seen the children listed for this William White for several years but he never had a son named William which was odd for those years. Finally a lady sent me a list of loose papers that had been found and are being kept in Woodruff Files in Fauquier Co Court House at Warren, VA. I used the information given and ordered the papers. Lo and Behold, He had a son named William. I always thought my William White was his eldest son. Perhaps because William stopped by Alexandria to see his brother John whom he found too ill to continue and took his place for several weeks. John caught up with his men while they were on a march to Willimasburg and relieved William to continue home. William did sign up again but took leave due to his own illness just before the end of the war. Somehow, I had it in my mind William was checking on a young brother. Anyway, you note in William White Sr's will, he mentions John as inheriting almost everthing like a first born son would in thos years. There was hard feelings for sure between William Sr and William Jr and father said near the bottom of his will that his son William was to be given on shilling current Virginia money and never no more even to his heirs. Yet William was at all the court trials from 1804 to 1825 helping his siblings get the will probated and settled. William remarried after Mary ---died to the widow of James Bailey. Her name was Ann _____. Wish I knew her maiden name. I am not sure which James Bailey she was widow too. Must have been Carr Bailey Sr's son James. William and Ann had no children together. She had 4 children by James Bailey that William White was made guardian of in court. I have had a copy of those papers for years. William, Thomas, Nanny and one other, prob James. There is a court paper that Mrs. White be given a debt owed to William White Sr after his death. There is another one that gives her 1/3 like a child from a parent would get too. Cant recall that father's name but think it was Mathis. Will look it up. I ordered about 75 pages of those court papers about the will. It states in it that John White, son of William White Sr. married Ann Bailey. I got the impression it was his step mother??? We have a cousin [who descends from Carr Bailey White who was born in Stokes Co and died in Lincoln Co TN] that I have sent a copy of all the papers. Paul R. White is a practicing attorney in Nashville and we will wait for him to give his educated opinion of whom John White married. definitely Ann Bailey, but was she the widow of his father????? Wm Sr. said Ann Bailey White would hold the strings for his property until she died or remarried. She fought having the land probated. William White's dau. Sarah, married George Roach and they lived in Prince William Co VA. All the other children listed in the will were living in Mason Co KY at least from 1804 when Wm died to 1816 when they each sent George Roach legally signed papers allowing George Roach to sell their share of their father's land for them. I hve copies of each of those letters. When the land was appraised, William Hunton, a next door neighbor of Wm White Sr and Wm's son in law, George Roach did the appraisal of the property. in Oct 1804. Then after the court ordered Ann to probate the will, George Roach sold the land to the next door neighbor, Wm. Hunton. The court case went on until 1825 which is probably when Ann Bailey White died. George Roach was deceased by them and Ann Bailey White's son, Thomas Bailey, was part of the executors who sold the land. I have copies all almost all of Wm White Sr's children's marriage bonds. William could not write. It seems to me that John White lived in Fauquier Co VA after his father's death. Yet, in 1840 US census showing soldiers still alive and receiving pensions, there is a John White age 78 living in northern Mason Co KY with Caleb White, son? I thought that was John as he lived there while the courts were churning on this will. My William was no doubt living in Stokes Co NC as that is where his children were born. It is same place that was called Rown Co NC before they cut old Rowan down to size. William White was there about 1786. He bought land from Isaac White in 1800 on Reedy Creek up close to top center of NC among the Moravians that William Jr appeared so often as witnesses for and with. There was no relationship mentioned between Isaac and William. I wonder if Isaac was his uncle??? I have a copy of that land sale. I was accepted into D.A.R. on William White Jr. His neighbors in Lincoln CO TN thought highly of him so I was surprised to see that he had such a severe problem with his father. There is a notice in a book about William White sueing Thomas James in Fauquier Co VA and the case being dropped due to death of the plantiff. I thought this to be William White Sr and his son in law.?? I believe it was in 1797 though. Will have to check athat date. William White Sr was very actice in Fauqueir Co. His x was on many documents, road improvements etc. His land adjoined the corners of Parnack George, his old friend and several others. All whose surnames appear in Lancaster Co VA with a William White. I wonder if my William White Sr b ca 1730 had a father named John since he named his first born, John. That was the habit the, First after the pateranl grandfather, second after the maternal grandfather, third after the father and fourth after the father's eldest brother as I recall. Correct me when necessary. I take that well and appreiciate the help.I am pleased with the work you do. Any ideas of how to obtain a copy of a land grant in Lincoln Co TN? When my William White, Rev War soldier, died May 6, 1833 in Iincoln Co TN, the land had to sit until his eldest son , James Franklin White born Aug 10, 1816 Stokes Co NC, obtained legal age to sell the land with the help of his younger brother, Carr Bailey who was 19 when James became 21.. They started selling the land in June 1837 and it was finalized in Dec 1837 Lincoln Co Court. They had a hold up with the court requiring them to have a copy of the land grant. They finally got the grant and sold the land to G.W.Martin. The land was located on Stephen's Creek and is supposed to be listed in Deed Book K-1, page 356 in Lincoln Co TN. I would love a copy of the deed. I am not sure where Stephen's Creek is located in Lincoln Co TN. I am sure my Rev War, soldier, William White and wife Elizabeth would have been buried on this land or at a near church or chapel neara by. I have been told they are buried on a hill.??. Anyone with any clues about where G.W. Martin's land was located to help me pinpoint where they could be buried.? I would like to have a D.A.R. marker on his graves even without him having a stone. I would get some of my cousins to help me purchase him a stone if we could find the place and get premission to do so. Children of William White Sr b ca 1730, died 1804 Haymarket, Prince William Co VA, married Mary ____. were; 1. Elizabeth Ann died after 23 May, 1816 md Feb 28, 1786 to James Bailey in Fauquier Co VA. [brother of Carr Bailey Jr] James died in war time young. 2. Jemima [Mima] [died aft Mar 22, 1816 when her father died] md 1st George Green Waddell in Fauquier Co VA, md 2nd 1847 Stephen Wade in Mason Co KY. She moved away ARK?? seems like. Will have to check my papers. 3. John White [Rev War soldier] b 1753m married Ann White ????? step mother??? 4. William White Jr. b 10 J1n 1755 Fauq Co VA, died May 6, 1833 Lincoln Co TN. Had at least 2 children in my opinion' Thomas J. White who seemed to hav a mental problem and required care and lived in Lincoln Co TN at times, and Edith Chapman White who married in Stokes Co NC to James Tucker and brought her children to Lincoln Co TN to complete their raising. My Rev War soldier, William White's grandson, William Clark White, was murdered Christmas Eve at his farm home door, he was shot to death. Returning discouraged Congf soldiers and skallawags came from twon to Wm's front gate. They were drunken and load. They demanded to know where William has hidden what little stock he had left and Wm refused to tell them. Wm's neighbors testified at the military trail that they had seen about 200 of Wm's Hogs being taken to town by the soldiers, They had seen soldiers riding Wm's horses in town and much more was taken. Wm White had 9 children under 16 andd a new bady due shortly. When Wm. Refused to tell them where what he had saved to feed his own large family, a young soldier on a horse right in front of Wm White shot Wm dead. Many of his neighbors had scurried through the bushes from town to see what the drunken soldiers were up to and several of Wm White's children and his wife were near him when he was murdered. He wife delivered William Clark [Babe] White within hours after seeing her sons murdered while standing next to her. She stated that two of her husband's nephews were among the gang. She said they were The Tucker boys and named them. When she asked one of the Tucker boys the name of the yuong man from Lawrence Co TN was, he heistiated but then told her he was Benjamin Franklin Herron, called William F. Herron in many of the court trials and said to have been only 14 when he was 17 at the time. When the soldiers refised to help Eliza get her husband into the house, she asked one of the Tucker nephews to run save her daughter, Charlotte, that she had sent to the nearest neighbor for hep and Herron rode hard after her. Tucker saved her life. The Tucker boys did nothing except be present. Even tried to help. Their mother was Edith Chapmen White who married James Tucker. Thus Edith had to have been a daughter of Rev War soldier by his 1st wife, Mary. I have looked for Chapman and White marriages in Rowan Co NC and Fauq Co VA to no avail. I think Thomas J. White was a son of that 1st marriage too. Wm White Sr married Elizabeth ___ who was 20 years younger than he in NC. Wm was aged 58 when their first child together was born 1814 NC named Martha md Mar 26, 1840 L:in Co TN to Samuel C. Miles. There were several White young men living in Stokes Co and Lincoln Co that could have been sons of Wm by his unk first marriage but I have found no proof of a connection. 5. Nancy Ann b 1764 Fauq. Co md Oct 31, 1786 William Waddell Sr. 6. Hannah b ca 1765 Fauq. died 1840 Clay Co IN, md Dec 13, 1787 Fauq. Co to Thomas Russell James. 7. Sarah b ca 1768 Fauq. Co married Aug 25, 1789 Fauq. Co to George Roach. Later lived in Pr Wm Co VA. 8. Carr White b ca 1777 Fauq Co d aft May 6, 1816 , married Nancy Donaldson, dau of John from Fauq. Co VA. All of above Children lived in Mason Co KY at least from 1804 to 1816 except; Sarah lived in Pr Wm Co VA and Wm Jr lived in Stokes Co NC still called Rowan Co NC then. I have been unable to locate Sam and Martha in Lincoln Co TN 1880 census. I am packing to move to Las Vegas so I do not have material to check. I received a packet several years ago and it seems to me they moved elsewhere but I am not sure. Will let you know when I get settled in Nov. Ginny Keefer PS; My E Mail in Las Vegas for some time will be bbrown9389@aol..com Save so we do not lose touch.

Anyone know of a Mary Chapman who married William White about 1775-1785 in Fauquier Co VA. Relocated to Rowan Co portion that became Stokes Co NC abt 1795. Need information. Had child named Edith Chapman White who married James Tucker in Stokes Co NC and all relocated to Lincoln Co TN prior to 1820 census.

Dear Researchers, I would be pleased to have you add any information to this brief note-taking concerning Richard Rosser and his probable brother-in-law John Kemper [Sr.] of Garrard Co., KY, previously believed to have been of Fauquier Co. or perhaps Culpeper Co. If Rosser was of Mercer Co., KY, will soneone forward this to that group--rootsweb, that is. Preparer: E. W. Wallace Edited Mar 1999 RICHARD ROSSER. His wife is reported to be Judith Kemper. Judith's relationship to John Kemper [Sr.] of Garrard Co. KY is unknown, but she may be a sister. According to compiled marriage bond records of Fauquier Co., one Richard Rosser was married to Judith Kemper on or about 23 Sept 1779. She was designated as daughter of Peter Kemper. Rosser's Rev War pension number is reported to be S31344, probably filed in either Garrard Co. or adjoining Mercer Co., KY.. According to the Revolutionary War Pensions Lists, Pension Roll of 1835, Vol III, Kentucky [The Learning Co., CD 145], he received a pension payment Sep 1, 1832. He served in the VA State Troops. The first payment was $23.33, and he received a total of $69.99. He was age 78. This would give a birth date of ca 1754, an appropriate birthdate for a person in the Revolution. Whether the first payment was an annual payment or a monthly payment was not stated. At any rate, he seems to have received three payments of $23.33 each. Rosser is believed to have been the brother-in-law of John Kemper, Sr. of Buena Vista area, Garrard Co., KY. Kemper's wife was Sarah Rosser, whom he married 15 Dec 1761, probably in the newly-formed county of Fauquier, VA. (Because of this early marriage date, John Kemper was either considerably older than Rosser, or else we have identified the wrong John Kemper. More research is needed.) Richard Rosser served in Capt. Benjamin Harrison's Co., Virginia Volunteers, Revolutionary War "from Fauq'r, Virginia," according to a jacket at the National Archives, Washington, DC. The card number is 39188159. Another jacket states that Rosser appears on a list of Capt. Benjamin Harrison's Company (Virginia Volunteers), but the list is not dated. There is no other information, as the searcher at that repository commented "Complete file." Copy of National Archives record is in possession of this writer. The following indicates the close relationship of the Kempers [Kampers] and the Rosser family: Fauquier Co., VA DB 8 pp. 84-86. 26 Jul 1783. Bargain and sale between John Peter Kamper and Frederick Kamper his son & Molly Kamper, wife of said Frederick, on the one part and Richard Rosser, of the other part .. tract in Hamilton Par. .. cor to Harmon Button .. to the Naked Mt. road .. line of Nathaniel Rector .. 70 A. (s) John Peter Kamper, Fred'k. Kamper, Molly (X) Kamper. Wits: Martin Pickett, William Allason, John Kemper. Rec. 22 Mar 1784, ack. by John Peter Kamper. Earlier Fauquier Co. deeds make reference to Richard Rosser's lines, indicating also that he is a neighbor to several Kempers: DB 7-p. 252-254, Aug 1774 "cor. to Richard Rosser cor. tree to George Williams by a drain falling into Rosser's Run .. cor. to Jacob Kemper .. pines in John Kemper's line and cor. to Bushrod Doggett's land." Reference to essentially the same lines is made in DB-7, p. 322-324 although Williams's and Doggett's land seems to have changed ownership. In 1783, a John Rawser [Rosser], Sr. made a deed of gift to a probable son-in-law and daughter and to a grandson, which deed was witnessed by several other Rosser males, probably his sons. DB 7-p. 512-513, 21 Jan 1783. Bargain & sale between John Rawser [Rosser] Sr. & John Mitchell & Mary, his wife and their son John Mitchell .. for love and affection held for John and Mary Mitchell .. doth lend unto them during their natural life only .. 20 A. .. part of tract whereon he now lives .. fork of Rawser's Branch in the line of the main Patent .. they promise not to sell, or any ways dispose of the above tract .. without his consent .. for future benefit of John Mitchell, Jr., grandson to the sd. John Rawser .. gives to John Mitchell Jr. the said tract after the death of John & Mary Mitchell (s) John Rosser. Wits: George Rosser, John Rosser, Richard Rosser. Rec: 26 May 1783, proved by oath of wits. A few short months later, John Rosser seems to have died. DB 7- p. 527-530, 17 Jul 1783. Bargain & sale between Mary Rosser, widow of John Rosser, decd., Richard Rosser & Judith his wife and George Rosser, said Richard and George being sons of the above named John Rosser and Mary Rosser, his widow .. and William Allason .. 282 pds. 10s. specie .. tract .. on N. branch of Rappahannock River, by Patent from the Proprietor's office .. to Richard Rosser .. 7 Feb 1725 .. 226 A +/- .. box oak in a Poison Field (s) Mary (X) Rosser, Richard Rosser, Judight Rosser, George Rosser. Wits: Eppa Timberlake, William Withers, Fred'k (X) Burditt. David Allason, Francis Payne, John Rosser. Rec: 28 Jul 1783, prov. by oath of wits. (Deed abstracts from John K. Gott, FAUQUIER COUNTY, VIRGINIA, DEEDS 1778-1785, V. 2 [Bowie, MD: Heritage Books, 1993]) Rosser was still residing in Fauquier Co. in 1785 when he witnessed a deed concerning two lots in Germantown tract. (Fauquier Co., VA DB 8-245-248) Mercer Co. & Garrard Co., Kentucky Richard Rosser is believed to be the same Richard Rosser, who some years later, in 1832, in Mercer Co., VA, applied for a Rev. War pension, S 31344. Transcribed pension (Page 83, Section 158 [Garrard Co. records]) Richard Rosser of Virginia Service S31344 applied in Garrard County, KY for pension 8-20-1832, age 75, a resident of Garrard Co., KY states he volunteered 9-1777, and marched from Fauquire [sic] Co VA under Major Martin Rickett, Capt. Benj. Harrison. He arrived at Germantown, on the day of the battle and assisted in burying the dead, the next day, the troops were commanded on the day of the battle by General Weeden, states he was a volunteer, that he marched from the place of rendezvous, through Leesburg, VA through Maryland to Germantown, thence after the burial of the dead, joined the main army at White Marsh, commanded by Gen. Washington, continued in service 4 months. Gen Wayne, Scott and Woodford, commanded Brigade - Col. Heath commanded a regiment of regulars. Col. Marshall commanded the regiment to which this applicant was attached. And served 3 months in the militia at the seige of York under Capt. Alexander Scott Bullett, afterwards transferred to Capt. Wm. Bailes, he was attached to the regiment of Col. Edmonds, that he was discharged after the seige and taking of Cornwallis and after having guarded the British prisoners to Albemarle Barracks in VA. Section 159 --Affidavit - We John Kemper, Thomas B. Maddox, citizens of Garrard Co., KY states they have known Richard Rosser many years and know him to be about 76 years of age and I john Kemper - certify that I was a mess mate that said Rosser in the first tour spoken of by him and know that he served said tour, that we were together the day after the Battle of Germantown and I Thomas B. Maddox, certify, that the said Richard Rosser marched as he states from my father's on the last tour of 3 months and I knew when he returned with the prisoners and believe he served as stated at York and we both certify that Richard Rosser we believe was a soldier of the Revolution. (Added to the transcription: See Jane Rosser pension papers in Garrard County, KY records. (Sec. 159) (From Mrs. Carl W. McGhee, HISTORICAL RECORDS OF HARRODSBURG (MERCER COUNTY) FORMERLY KNOWN AS OLD CRAB ORCHARD, LINCOLN COUNTY, STANFORD, KENTUCKY; Washington, DC, n.d. LAFHC 976.948s M1735-8 Vol. 2, pt. 1) (This is a very old booklet, practically in tatters. No doubt the full pension can be obtained from either the film, held by the NARA or at Salt Lake City, or by writing to National Archives for the proper form, which probably can now, in 2004, be downloaded.) ......... An Earlier Richard Rosser There is reference in Northern Neck land grants dating rom 1705 to at least 1746 to Richard Rosser in several counties. There is also reference to Rosser's Run, Prince William Co., VA. However, the name Richard Rosser has been carried down for generations in the United States, at least since the early 1700s in Richmond Co., VA. Refer to Wills of Farnham Parish of Richmond Co., VA. Northern Neck Land Grant References: Bk 3-128, dated 23 Feb 1705 refers to land adj Richard Rosser, Richmond Co. On 30 Jan 1726 [book not noted] Richard Rossier of King George Co., 264 A in King George Co. on Great Run of Rappahannock R above Naked Mt. [Compare with grants to John Kemper; this land later in Fauquier Co.] From Northern Neck Patent Books: Bk A-193 Richard Rossier of King George Co., 226 A in said Co. on N. great Branch of Rapphannock R, 7 Feb 1725. E-443, dated 14 Apr 1742. land in Prince William Co. adj Richard Rosser, Wm Settle 14 Apr 1742. (Gertrude E. Gray, NORTHERN NECK LAND GRANTS, V. I) Prince William Co., DB 1748-1749, a deed 26 Sep 1748 Wm. Duling to Alexander Munroe mentions line of Richard Rosser et al. (This probably was an older man than Richard Rosser of Garrard Co., KY, who was the brother-in-law of Kemper.) EWW

Ms. Wallace said: <<If you are researching in Virginia, you have to research ALL the counties. At first I thought she was out of her mind. Now that I am older and wiser, I have learned that it seems she is right.>> Nothing could be truer. My husband and I have searched every county around Fauquier county only to find that we MUST expand our research to ALL the counties. I wish I knew this about 10 years ago. Estelle ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 6:23 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] DeBord > I believe it was Jim Burgess who asked about DeBord. > > I do not have a specific answer to his question. However, since there is a > rumor among my distant cousins that we are descended from one Roger Williams > of early Northern Neck Virginia and from his wife Joan [who had two other > husbands besides Roger], I pick up whatever clues I can find. > > It seems Joan's daughter Ann Williams may have married a James DeBord. > Perhaps some of these notes can help you sort out some of these folks. When > studying Northern Neck folks, it seems I have study all the parent and progeny > counties in order to pick up clues. > > Here goes: > > ANNE WILLIAMS (married by 1703) She, Anne, wife of James DeBord, is > named in the 1703 will of her mother Joan Frith [surname is in dispute among > us cousins]. Anne's father may have been any of the three husbands of Joan > (--) Williams, later wife of ......, later wife of ......... > > Later, the names of Wm. Debord and David Debord are found on lists of Orange > Co., VA tithables for the years 1747 and 1748. They are not listed for > subsequent years. > > (Barbara Vines Little, ORANGE COUNTY, VIRGINIA TITHABLES 1734-1782, PART I > [Orange, VA: Dominion Market Research Corp., 1988], p. 26) > > JAMES DEBORD or DEBOARD, probably of Richmond Co., VA ca 1713. > > He probably was of legal age in 1713, Richmond Co., VA as his name > appears as a landholder, but apparently his land is in dispute as is that of some > of his neighbors. > > Richmond County Court 6th of August 1713 > > - Moore Fantleroy, Gent., one of the Processioners appointed for one > of the precincts of Northfarnham Pish refuseing to procession severall > parcells of land held by Thomas Beale, Thomas Williams, Joseph Deeke, Gilbert > Metcalfe, William Yeats, Roger Thornton and James DeBoard alledging that the same > or greatest part thereof belonged to him, Whereupon it was ordered that the > Surveyor and a Jury should lay out the same, and the Jury having returned their > report, it is at the motion of Moore Fanteleroy ordered to be recorded.. > > This is about the mother of Ann DeBord. > > As indicated, Mrs.Joan Loyd was widowed three times. Her last > husband was Lewis Loyd. Her first husband was Roger Williams, the father of her > son Shaddrack Williams (named in the will), also of Roger Williams II, and > possibly the father of Ruth Williams Canterbury. Seemingly, there were other > Williams daughters: Betty, as named in their father's will; Rebecca: Susannah, > wife of William Phillips); and Anne, wife of James DeBord and later in the > mother's will. > > In her will, written 8 Jan 1703, proved 2 Feb 1703/04, Joan Loyd named > two other daughters: Susannah, wife of William Phillips, and Anne, wife of > James DeBord. She named several sons-in-law: George Thompson (also her > executor), William Phillips and the aforementioned John Canterbury. She named her > daughter-in-law Elizabeth Williams, deduced to be wife of said Shaddrack > Williams, but possibly a stepdaughter, "Betty Williams,' as named in the will of > Roger Williams, Sr. Several grandchildren were named: Elizabeth Thornhill, > Susan Phillips, and John McDaniel. (Was Rebecca the wife of John McDaniel?) > > Refer to Robert K. Headley, Jr. WILLS OF RICHMOND COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1699-1800 > [Baltimore: Clearfield Publishing Co., 1998 reprint of 1983 edition], p. 11. > > Lewis Loyd > > Joan, late Williams, was administratrix of Lewis Loyd, formerly of Old > Rappahannock Co. > > Richmond County Records, 1692-1704, p. 111. "Grant. 14 Dec 1692. > Phillip Ludwell for the proprietors, to Joane Loyd, widow and administratrix of > Lewis Loyd, late of Rappahannock Co., decd and parish of Northfarnham, 159 > acres in above par. and Co., 'formerly surveyed and taken up by her dec'd > husband Lewis Loyd as by Survey dated February the 6th 1681 under the hand of Mr. > Edwin Conway x x x t > > If this Jim asking the question about DeBorrd, he may now know more than he > wants to know. One noted genealogist-historian of Salt Lake City area said > in one of her long-ago lectures: If you are researching in Virginia, you > have to research ALL the counties. At first I thought she was out of her mind. > Now that I am older and wiser, I have learned that it seems she is right. > > E.W.Wallace > > > E.W.Wallace > > > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Fauquier County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/fqva.htm > Be sure to bookmark it!!! >

Was there any Roger Williams descendant who married Elijah Anderson, a Revolutionary War soldier? Elijah lived in Rappahannock-Culpeper Counties, VA between 1700s and 1800s. His wife's name was "Miss_______Williams". She died in 1797. Then Elijah married in Frederick Co. VA his cousin #2 Miriam Anderson of Dutch ancestors in NY and NJ. My cousins and I need to know beccause Miss______Williams is our ancestor. Thank you for your assistance. JeanBout@Juno.Com ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today!

I, too, hope we can sort this out, as I descend from Joan and Roger WILLIAMS, through Susannah m before 1680 to William PHILLIPS to their dau Susannah PHILLIPS who m before 1707 John RUCKER ... whose descendant eventually married a BARTLETT whose ancestor Thomas BARTLETT c1730-1807 lived in Fauquier Co, VA 1768 to 1785... ;>j Jim Bartlett; Bethesda, MD [new] -----Original Message----- From: Hdanw@aol.com [mailto:Hdanw@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 4:06 PM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Joan (--) Williams, Lloyd, Wills and Her Children Dear geniebug, Thank you for providing the website with information about Joan, the constantly widowed lady, widow of Roger Williams. (None of whom lived in Fauquier Co., which is a newcomer county in the scheme of Virginia politics.) I do have a dispute with the compiler of the website in this respect: We have no positive proof that Joan's former name was Frith. (Admittedly this has little to do with Fauquier Co. residents--or does it?) There is question whether Joan was Nathaniel Frith's daughter. With luck, we might be able to find some more evidence. Research shows that Joan's daughter apparently was a goddaughter of Nathaniel Frith and not his granddaughter. >From my notes: The will of one Nathaniel Frith was written 3 Jan 1676/77 and proved in [Old] Rappahannock Co. 4 July 1677. "To sons Nathaniel & William Frith my Plantation wch I now live on and the Land belonging to it which is in all 150 acres to be equally divided betwixt them and if one dies the other to have it all. To wife Elizabeth all my moveables & Cattle saving only one cow calf to be deivered to my God daughter Rebecca Williams, daughter of Jone Williams. Wife Elizabeth Executrix and if she die Afore they come of age then my two sons Nathaniell & William to be possest wth their land at 17 years of age. "Wit. Rupert Berker Head [Berkenhead], aged 27 years or thereabouts, Lewis X Jones, aged 40 years or thereabouts. Page 32 [of Will Book]." Note that the will, or at least the transcript of it, states Rebecca Williams, daughter of Jone Williams, is GOD daughter and not granddaughter. Nathaniel Frith could well have been the brother of Jone Williams, but the relationship of the two is not stated. In 1683, one John Frith was one of three witnesses to an (Old) Rappahannock Co. deed (DB 1682-1686) Richard Whitehead, Glocester Co., to Thomas Coomer of Parish of Ware in Glocester Co. for land in Rappahannock Co. John Frith's relationship to Nathaniel Frith is unknown. .......... Much later the will of one Anne Frith was proved in Henrico Co. in 1740. (As abstracted by William Lindsay Hopkins, SOME WILLS FROM THE BURNED COUNTIES [Richmond, 1987], p. 60, quoting from Henrico county wills as abstracted by Benjamin B. Weisiger) I would hope we could get some solid evidence that Joan had the maiden name of Frith. As it is, it seems Nathaniel Frith is the godfather of Joan's daughter Rebecca. Sorry we have to interrupt Fauquier Co. discussions, but maybe some Fauquier Co. residents really do have roots in previous Virginia counties. E.W.Wallace ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received When you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz with questions concerning this list!

Joane Frith married Samuel Wills ???? Roger Williams 1660 Lewis Lloyd 1684

Va. Troops of French & Indian Wars On the roll of Maj. Andrew Lewis Co: Name: David DeBord Age: 41 Size: 5' 6 3/4" Trade: Planter Country: Virginia Where entertained--County: Culpeper This is a will: Jan 8, 1703 Lloyd, Joane, X her mark, 8 Jan. 1703. Daughter Susanna wife of William Philips; son Shadrack Williams; daughter Anne DeBord, wife of James DeBord; daughter Ruth Canterbury, wife of John Canterbury; granddaughter Elizabeth Thornhill; granddaughter-in-law Elizabeth Williams; son-in-law George Thompson; granddaughter Susan Philips; grandson John McDaniel; sons-in-law William Philips, John Canterbury and George Thompson. Virginia Will records, Abstracts from Records of Richmond County, VA. as the source. The above Joane was married to Roger Williams and died 1703 in Va. children Ruth, Susannnah, Shadrick, & Anne were Roger and Joane's children. Joane's maiden name was Frith, daughter of Nathaniel Frith. June

Dear geniebug, Thank you for providing the website with information about Joan, the constantly widowed lady, widow of Roger Williams. (None of whom lived in Fauquier Co., which is a newcomer county in the scheme of Virginia politics.) I do have a dispute with the compiler of the website in this respect: We have no positive proof that Joan's former name was Frith. (Admittedly this has little to do with Fauquier Co. residents--or does it?) There is question whether Joan was Nathaniel Frith's daughter. With luck, we might be able to find some more evidence. Research shows that Joan's daughter apparently was a goddaughter of Nathaniel Frith and not his granddaughter. From my notes: The will of one Nathaniel Frith was written 3 Jan 1676/77 and proved in [Old] Rappahannock Co. 4 July 1677. "To sons Nathaniel & William Frith my Plantation wch I now live on and the Land belonging to it which is in all 150 acres to be equally divided betwixt them and if one dies the other to have it all. To wife Elizabeth all my moveables & Cattle saving only one cow calf to be deivered to my God daughter Rebecca Williams, daughter of Jone Williams. Wife Elizabeth Executrix and if she die Afore they come of age then my two sons Nathaniell & William to be possest wth their land at 17 years of age. "Wit. Rupert Berker Head [Berkenhead], aged 27 years or thereabouts, Lewis X Jones, aged 40 years or thereabouts. Page 32 [of Will Book]." Note that the will, or at least the transcript of it, states Rebecca Williams, daughter of Jone Williams, is GOD daughter and not granddaughter. Nathaniel Frith could well have been the brother of Jone Williams, but the relationship of the two is not stated. In 1683, one John Frith was one of three witnesses to an (Old) Rappahannock Co. deed (DB 1682-1686) Richard Whitehead, Glocester Co., to Thomas Coomer of Parish of Ware in Glocester Co. for land in Rappahannock Co. John Frith's relationship to Nathaniel Frith is unknown. .......... Much later the will of one Anne Frith was proved in Henrico Co. in 1740. (As abstracted by William Lindsay Hopkins, SOME WILLS FROM THE BURNED COUNTIES [Richmond, 1987], p. 60, quoting from Henrico county wills as abstracted by Benjamin B. Weisiger) I would hope we could get some solid evidence that Joan had the maiden name of Frith. As it is, it seems Nathaniel Frith is the godfather of Joan's daughter Rebecca. Sorry we have to interrupt Fauquier Co. discussions, but maybe some Fauquier Co. residents really do have roots in previous Virginia counties. E.W.Wallace

Here's a family web site with info on Joan Frith Williams Wells Lloyd and her children and their spouses and children. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/o/u/Kimberly-N-Routh/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0194.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 6:23 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] DeBord > I believe it was Jim Burgess who asked about DeBord. > > I do not have a specific answer to his question. However, since there is a > rumor among my distant cousins that we are descended from one Roger Williams > of early Northern Neck Virginia and from his wife Joan [who had two other > husbands besides Roger], I pick up whatever clues I can find. > > It seems Joan's daughter Ann Williams may have married a James DeBord. > Perhaps some of these notes can help you sort out some of these folks. When > studying Northern Neck folks, it seems I have study all the parent and progeny > counties in order to pick up clues. > > Here goes: > > ANNE WILLIAMS (married by 1703) She, Anne, wife of James DeBord, is > named in the 1703 will of her mother Joan Frith [surname is in dispute among > us cousins]. Anne's father may have been any of the three husbands of Joan > (--) Williams, later wife of ......, later wife of ......... > > Later, the names of Wm. Debord and David Debord are found on lists of Orange > Co., VA tithables for the years 1747 and 1748. They are not listed for > subsequent years. > > (Barbara Vines Little, ORANGE COUNTY, VIRGINIA TITHABLES 1734-1782, PART I > [Orange, VA: Dominion Market Research Corp., 1988], p. 26) > > JAMES DEBORD or DEBOARD, probably of Richmond Co., VA ca 1713. > > He probably was of legal age in 1713, Richmond Co., VA as his name > appears as a landholder, but apparently his land is in dispute as is that of some > of his neighbors. > > Richmond County Court 6th of August 1713 > > - Moore Fantleroy, Gent., one of the Processioners appointed for one > of the precincts of Northfarnham Pish refuseing to procession severall > parcells of land held by Thomas Beale, Thomas Williams, Joseph Deeke, Gilbert > Metcalfe, William Yeats, Roger Thornton and James DeBoard alledging that the same > or greatest part thereof belonged to him, Whereupon it was ordered that the > Surveyor and a Jury should lay out the same, and the Jury having returned their > report, it is at the motion of Moore Fanteleroy ordered to be recorded.. > > This is about the mother of Ann DeBord. > > As indicated, Mrs.Joan Loyd was widowed three times. Her last > husband was Lewis Loyd. Her first husband was Roger Williams, the father of her > son Shaddrack Williams (named in the will), also of Roger Williams II, and > possibly the father of Ruth Williams Canterbury. Seemingly, there were other > Williams daughters: Betty, as named in their father's will; Rebecca: Susannah, > wife of William Phillips); and Anne, wife of James DeBord and later in the > mother's will. > > In her will, written 8 Jan 1703, proved 2 Feb 1703/04, Joan Loyd named > two other daughters: Susannah, wife of William Phillips, and Anne, wife of > James DeBord. She named several sons-in-law: George Thompson (also her > executor), William Phillips and the aforementioned John Canterbury. She named her > daughter-in-law Elizabeth Williams, deduced to be wife of said Shaddrack > Williams, but possibly a stepdaughter, "Betty Williams,' as named in the will of > Roger Williams, Sr. Several grandchildren were named: Elizabeth Thornhill, > Susan Phillips, and John McDaniel. (Was Rebecca the wife of John McDaniel?) > > Refer to Robert K. Headley, Jr. WILLS OF RICHMOND COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1699-1800 > [Baltimore: Clearfield Publishing Co., 1998 reprint of 1983 edition], p. 11. > > Lewis Loyd > > Joan, late Williams, was administratrix of Lewis Loyd, formerly of Old > Rappahannock Co. > > Richmond County Records, 1692-1704, p. 111. "Grant. 14 Dec 1692. > Phillip Ludwell for the proprietors, to Joane Loyd, widow and administratrix of > Lewis Loyd, late of Rappahannock Co., decd and parish of Northfarnham, 159 > acres in above par. and Co., 'formerly surveyed and taken up by her dec'd > husband Lewis Loyd as by Survey dated February the 6th 1681 under the hand of Mr. > Edwin Conway x x x t > > If this Jim asking the question about DeBorrd, he may now know more than he > wants to know. One noted genealogist-historian of Salt Lake City area said > in one of her long-ago lectures: If you are researching in Virginia, you > have to research ALL the counties. At first I thought she was out of her mind. > Now that I am older and wiser, I have learned that it seems she is right. > > E.W.Wallace > > > E.W.Wallace > > > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Fauquier County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/fqva.htm > Be sure to bookmark it!!! > >

I believe it was Jim Burgess who asked about DeBord. I do not have a specific answer to his question. However, since there is a rumor among my distant cousins that we are descended from one Roger Williams of early Northern Neck Virginia and from his wife Joan [who had two other husbands besides Roger], I pick up whatever clues I can find. It seems Joan's daughter Ann Williams may have married a James DeBord. Perhaps some of these notes can help you sort out some of these folks. When studying Northern Neck folks, it seems I have study all the parent and progeny counties in order to pick up clues. Here goes: ANNE WILLIAMS (married by 1703) She, Anne, wife of James DeBord, is named in the 1703 will of her mother Joan Frith [surname is in dispute among us cousins]. Anne's father may have been any of the three husbands of Joan (--) Williams, later wife of ......, later wife of ......... Later, the names of Wm. Debord and David Debord are found on lists of Orange Co., VA tithables for the years 1747 and 1748. They are not listed for subsequent years. (Barbara Vines Little, ORANGE COUNTY, VIRGINIA TITHABLES 1734-1782, PART I [Orange, VA: Dominion Market Research Corp., 1988], p. 26) JAMES DEBORD or DEBOARD, probably of Richmond Co., VA ca 1713. He probably was of legal age in 1713, Richmond Co., VA as his name appears as a landholder, but apparently his land is in dispute as is that of some of his neighbors. Richmond County Court 6th of August 1713 - Moore Fantleroy, Gent., one of the Processioners appointed for one of the precincts of Northfarnham Pish refuseing to procession severall parcells of land held by Thomas Beale, Thomas Williams, Joseph Deeke, Gilbert Metcalfe, William Yeats, Roger Thornton and James DeBoard alledging that the same or greatest part thereof belonged to him, Whereupon it was ordered that the Surveyor and a Jury should lay out the same, and the Jury having returned their report, it is at the motion of Moore Fanteleroy ordered to be recorded.. This is about the mother of Ann DeBord. As indicated, Mrs.Joan Loyd was widowed three times. Her last husband was Lewis Loyd. Her first husband was Roger Williams, the father of her son Shaddrack Williams (named in the will), also of Roger Williams II, and possibly the father of Ruth Williams Canterbury. Seemingly, there were other Williams daughters: Betty, as named in their father's will; Rebecca: Susannah, wife of William Phillips); and Anne, wife of James DeBord and later in the mother's will. In her will, written 8 Jan 1703, proved 2 Feb 1703/04, Joan Loyd named two other daughters: Susannah, wife of William Phillips, and Anne, wife of James DeBord. She named several sons-in-law: George Thompson (also her executor), William Phillips and the aforementioned John Canterbury. She named her daughter-in-law Elizabeth Williams, deduced to be wife of said Shaddrack Williams, but possibly a stepdaughter, "Betty Williams,' as named in the will of Roger Williams, Sr. Several grandchildren were named: Elizabeth Thornhill, Susan Phillips, and John McDaniel. (Was Rebecca the wife of John McDaniel?) Refer to Robert K. Headley, Jr. WILLS OF RICHMOND COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1699-1800 [Baltimore: Clearfield Publishing Co., 1998 reprint of 1983 edition], p. 11. Lewis Loyd Joan, late Williams, was administratrix of Lewis Loyd, formerly of Old Rappahannock Co. Richmond County Records, 1692-1704, p. 111. "Grant. 14 Dec 1692. Phillip Ludwell for the proprietors, to Joane Loyd, widow and administratrix of Lewis Loyd, late of Rappahannock Co., decd and parish of Northfarnham, 159 acres in above par. and Co., 'formerly surveyed and taken up by her dec'd husband Lewis Loyd as by Survey dated February the 6th 1681 under the hand of Mr. Edwin Conway x x x t If this Jim asking the question about DeBorrd, he may now know more than he wants to know. One noted genealogist-historian of Salt Lake City area said in one of her long-ago lectures: If you are researching in Virginia, you have to research ALL the counties. At first I thought she was out of her mind. Now that I am older and wiser, I have learned that it seems she is right. E.W.Wallace E.W.Wallace

Dear Logan County, Virginia Genealogist, Thanks to Joel Hager and everyone else who responded to my email on Mary Jane ELLIS. Not sure that I would have ever found the relationship. I really do appreciate the guidance. Looks like Mary Jane ELLIS was married before she married Luke Curry OR she had an affair outside the bonds of matrimony. I guess things never change. In the 1870 Census Mary Jane ELLIS is listed as a child of Anderson ELLIS and Judith (DEBORD). Louisa is listed as being 2 years old. I am sure that this Louisa is the who married Lewis Allen "Jay" VANCE. Following are the Census Records for Anderson Ellis & Luke Curry! Can anyone add information? In 1900 Luke is with his new wife Prissa. Thanks for that information. Looks like Anderson ELLIS and Luke CURRY lived a long time! Does anyone know who Mary Jane ELLIS was married to or had the affair with? Am I on the right track with this? Anyone know more about Judith DEBORD? thanks Jim Burgess 1850 Logan County, Virginia Census Dwelling #49 Anderson ELLIS 1830 (son of William BROWNING & Amy ELLIS) married 17 Oct 1848 Pike County, Kentucky Genetta/Jeanetta 1832 Kentucky (daughter of Ira DEBORD) Mary J. ELLIS 1849 Va married Luke CURRY son of John CURRY & Frances BROWNING 1860 Logan County, Virginia Dwelling 217 Anderson ELLIS 33 Virginia Jenette ELLIS 24 Kentucky Mary Jane ELLIS 8 Virginia married Luke CURRY Wm J. ELLIS 6 Margaret M ELLIS 4 French M ELLIS 1 1870 Logan County, West Virginia Anderson ELLIS 44 Judith ELLIS 41 Kentucky daughter of Ira DEBORD) Mary Jane ELLIS 21 Virginia married Luke CURRY) William ELLIS 19 Virginia married Catherine LAMB daughter of Martha 17 Jan 1875) Margaret L. ELLIS 14 French M ELLIS 11 married E.L. SMITH 4 Mar 1884) Mary F ELLIS 8 Joseph G(reen) ELLIS 5 (m George NEWSOM daughter of James NEWSOM &Sarah 16 Oct 1889 Ezekial ELLIS 11 Harriet ELLIS 9 Hanson ELLIS 6 Malinda ELLIS 4 Louisa ELLIS 2 1880 Logan, West Virginia Census Luke CURREY Self M Male W 36 KY Farming WV WV Mary J(Ellis) CURREY Wife M Female W 30 WV Keeping House WV WV Eli Francis CURREY Son S Male W 14 WV WV WV Louiza CURREY (Ellis) Dau S Female W 13 WV WV WV Geo. R. CURREY Son S Male W 11 WV WV WV John H. CURREY (Ellis) Son S Male W 10 WV WV WV Minnis S. CURREY Son S Male W 7 WV WV WV Robert Guy CURREY(Ellis) Son S Male W 7 WV WV WV Married 1. Luemma Burgess Dec 1892 Married 2. Estella Lee 'Letilla' Vance Mar 17,1897 Logan Co.) Albert L. CURREY Son S Male W 4 WV WV WV Cora B. CURREY Dau S Female W 2 WV WV WV Joseph E. CURREY(Ellis) Son S Male W 2 WV WV WV Dwelling L-18 1880 Census Logan County, West Virginia Anderson J. ELLIS 55 Judith ELLIS 52 Minnie ELLIS 20 French ELLIS 22 John ELLIS 16 Green ELLIS 16 1900 Logan County, West Virginia Census Dwelling 131 Luke CURRY 56 Apr 1844 Prissa CURRY 45 May 1855 (0-0) Mayoval CURRY 19 Aug 1881 John H CURRY 18 Aug 1882 William CURRY 18 Aug 1882 Rosetta MORRIS 17 Mar 1883 servant 1900 Logan County, West Virginia #27 ELLIS, A. J. 74 Mar 1826 ELLIS, Juditha 70 Aug 1829 10 Children 6 Living born Virginia -----Original Message----- From: Griffith27@aol.com [mailto:Griffith27@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 6:41 AM To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Re: ELLIS In a message dated 9/10/2004 3:53:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tkwhsimms@hovac.com writes: > I do not know anything about this family but in reading your below notes: I > would venture to say that Nathaniel and Mariah might be siblings and perhaps > their father was an earlier Nathaniel. > This tells us that either the DAR doesn't always verify all of the info they > get, OR there are some typographical errors made by whomever posted it. Who > knows which? > Perhaps DAR could send you directly the copies of whatever data they have. > Your source SWG EST doesn't tell me anything. > Mariah is his child, not a sibling and SWG are my initials. I have used my own estimates which are more sensible than those wild ranges from family tree maker-the ones where someone died the year after they are born even though they have ten kids... Thanks for writing, Sandy in Florida I will gladly exchange family history if you will do the same. Please do not send jokes, virus warnings, chain letters or attachments. ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received When you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz with questions concerning this list!

In a message dated 9/10/2004 3:53:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tkwhsimms@hovac.com writes: > I do not know anything about this family but in reading your below notes: I > would venture to say that Nathaniel and Mariah might be siblings and perhaps > their father was an earlier Nathaniel. > This tells us that either the DAR doesn't always verify all of the info they > get, OR there are some typographical errors made by whomever posted it. Who > knows which? > Perhaps DAR could send you directly the copies of whatever data they have. > Your source SWG EST doesn't tell me anything. > Mariah is his child, not a sibling and SWG are my initials. I have used my own estimates which are more sensible than those wild ranges from family tree maker-the ones where someone died the year after they are born even though they have ten kids... Thanks for writing, Sandy in Florida I will gladly exchange family history if you will do the same. Please do not send jokes, virus warnings, chain letters or attachments.

I do not know anything about this family but in reading your below notes: I would venture to say that Nathaniel and Mariah might be siblings and perhaps their father was an earlier Nathaniel. This tells us that either the DAR doesn't always verify all of the info they get, OR there are some typographical errors made by whomever posted it. Who knows which? Perhaps DAR could send you directly the copies of whatever data they have. Your source SWG EST doesn't tell me anything. Let's hope someone jumps in and adds further to your research. This is such a good group of people on this list. Tosca "People will never look forward to posterity who never look back to their ancestors" by Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: <Griffith27@aol.com> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 6:34 AM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Re: [WVLOGAN] ELLIS > I have this family, does anyone know the dates, thise are clearly wrong > > Descendants of Nathaniel Ellis, DAR > > 1 Nathaniel ELLIS, DAR b: 15 March 1753 in Fauquier Co., VA > d: Bef. 1823 > .. +Rachel MELVILLE b: 15 May 1762 in Fauquier Co., VA > > 2 Mariah Susan ELLIS b: 15 May 1762 in Fauquier/Culpeper Co., VA > d: 24 July 1834 in Marshall, Fauquier Co., VA Burial: July 1834 > Home Cemetery, Marshall, Fauguier, VA > .... +William HEFLIN b: 20 August 1777 in Fauquier Co., VA m: 01 > September 1803 in Fauquier Co., VA d: 21 August 1853 in Harrison Co., VA > Father: William Martin HEFLIN Mother: Margaret Nancy HADDUX Burial: August > 1853 Bridgeport Cem, Bridgeport, WV > 2 John ELLIS b: Bet. 1770 - 1800 > Date source: SWG EST. > > > Thanks for writing, > Sandy in Florida > > I will gladly exchange family history if you will do the same. > Please do not send jokes, virus warnings, chain letters or attachments. > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

I have this family, does anyone know the dates, thise are clearly wrong Descendants of Nathaniel Ellis, DAR 1 Nathaniel ELLIS, DAR b: 15 March 1753 in Fauquier Co., VA d: Bef. 1823 .. +Rachel MELVILLE b: 15 May 1762 in Fauquier Co., VA 2 Mariah Susan ELLIS b: 15 May 1762 in Fauquier/Culpeper Co., VA d: 24 July 1834 in Marshall, Fauquier Co., VA Burial: July 1834 Home Cemetery, Marshall, Fauguier, VA .... +William HEFLIN b: 20 August 1777 in Fauquier Co., VA m: 01 September 1803 in Fauquier Co., VA d: 21 August 1853 in Harrison Co., VA Father: William Martin HEFLIN Mother: Margaret Nancy HADDUX Burial: August 1853 Bridgeport Cem, Bridgeport, WV 2 John ELLIS b: Bet. 1770 - 1800 Date source: SWG EST. Thanks for writing, Sandy in Florida I will gladly exchange family history if you will do the same. Please do not send jokes, virus warnings, chain letters or attachments.

Hi all Well, I think I just made a HUGE stride to discovering John Wilson's (Elizabeth Chinn) family. Those of you who know me also know I'm obsessed with this project. I've always believed that John's father was William and his mother was either Lucy or Jane. I've also believed that Judge William Wilson of Illinois was his nephew. Those of you familiar with the Chinn Book and the Wilson Story know that Ruth Wilson Dillon (author of the Chinn Book) knew there was a relationship with John Wilson and Jg. Wilson and also that there was a Jacob Wilson who married a King in White Co. IL but no relationship had yet been established to John Wilson. Well I've believed that Jacob was John's brother and Jg. William's father was their brother also. Well I just found Jg. Wilson's parents. William R. Wilson b. 1765 m. Jane King b. 1768 d/o Phillip King. w/children: William Wilson b. 1794 m. 1820 Mary S. Davidson John Knox Wilson b. 1792-1841 to Martinsburg W.Va. merchant Now Jacob Wilson b. 1774 m. Margaret King (who's mother was a Kearney related to Gen Phillip Kearney. So we should have Phillip King m. Unknown Kearney w/daug's Margaret b. 1771 m. Jacob Wilson Jane b. 1768 m. William Wilson Now, in a letter from Eliz (Chinn) Wilson to her son William, (who I believe was in Illinois at the time) refers to "your Uncle Jacob) and also to "remember me to your Aunt Jane" Well I have never had an Aunt Jane on the Chinn side so it HAD to be on John Wilson's side. Which now makes sense. JANE KING WILSON. This would be Elizabeth Chinn's sister in law. I was told that Jg. William Wilson was born in Loudoun Co. and his father died when he was young leaving a wife and two young boys. Well that would be William and John. So my guess is that Williams mother Jane King Wilson went to Illinois with him. This makes sense because then Aunt Jane would have been 64 when Elizabeth wrote the letter in 1832 and referred to her "old friend Mrs. Channel" I know this all needs confirmed but if we collectively track down William R. Wilson and wife Jane King and look for her father Phillip King with possible wife Kearney I bet we can find the parents or at least the father of the Wilson boys: William b. 1765 John b. 1772 Jacob b. 1774 There could be a brother Silas also and IF Jacob is their brother then their father fought in the Rev'n War and wounded at Paoli and captured. Jacob had a brother Silas that fought at Brandywine. Jacob was at Harper's Ferry in 1798 and served at the White House in the War of 1812 under Col. William Washington. In 1811 Jacob and Margaret were living in Prince Wn Co. Va near Bull Run as that is where son John M. Wilson was born. In 1824 they moved from PWC to Jefferson Co. va. (W.Va.) and in October 1828 they moved to Illinois reaching White Co. in December of the same year, where they passed the winter at the home of a cousin Justice William Wilson who married Mary Davidson. White Co. Probate Journal Vol. B. 1822-1844 page 165 has the following: William K. Wilson - (who is this - William KING Wilson - Jg. Wilson's wife was a Davidson - Jacob's was a King.) Administrator: William H. Davidson 9 Nov. 1836 Settle Distribution: Jacob & Margaret Wilson $50.78; Heirs of Eliza Boyd, Dec'd, John M. Wilson, James L. Wilson, Oliver H.P. Wilson, R. Adaline Wilson, Mary Shelby, Jane Wilson $25.35. The above are Jacob and Margaret's children but who is this Eliza Boyd, dec'd? Jacob's daughter Mary m. William B. Shelby lived in Indiana Collectively we can crack this! Janean