Ginny, I am sure yours and my White's come from the same area if I COULD FIND one WHITE male cuz!!!! Tootsie "Virginia L. \"Ginny\" Keefer" wrote: > Hello- I am looking for at least one male with the surname of White who > knows FOR SURE that their White's lived in Fauquier Co ca 1730-1825 era. > Clay Daniels has located a very reasonable DNA company. I would like at > least one White to contact Clay about co-operating with this DNA program. It > is very reasonable at $99.00 per person. > > If you have family that are interested in their heritage, ask them to share > in this total cost of $99.00 so it could be very cheap with a family sharing > this cost. All that is involved is to send Clay the money and he will have > the company send a swab test to you. One swab around the inside of your > mouth and follow the instructions to secure it to mail back. It takes a few > weeks but the results could be wonderful. You may learn WHO your immigrant > ancestors was OR WHO they were not to narrrow your research. White's are > hard to separate as you well know. Contact Clay with your questions please > as he is much more informed than I. > > Thank you. Ginny Keefer nee Virginia Lynn White. > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > When you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz > with questions concerning this list! -- "Lord, keep your arm around my shoulders....and your hand over my mouth."

Dear Ginny & Tootsie, I also have White's in my family. My White's lived in Massachusetts & New Hampshire; moved to Steuben Co., NY; and finally to Greenup Co., Kentucky. Rebecca Bashaw Tootsie wrote: >Ginny, >I am sure yours and my White's come from the same area if I COULD FIND one WHITE >male cuz!!!! >Tootsie >

Emmons/Emons/Emins/Emms: no record in Groom or wife index record. Rebecca Bashaw S Renee Schaeffer wrote: >Hi Rebecca.....any Emmons marriages or Emons, Emins, Emms > >Thank you, > >Renee Schaeffer >

Hamrick: no marriages in either Groom or wife index Rebecca Bashaw hamrickwv@charter.net wrote: >Would like Hamrick marriages. Thanks. Caroline > > >

Caty Bruce married Gooling Harding Father: none 30 Aug 1794 (Interestingly on the actual record written is Harding Gooling.) Albemarle Co., VA, Marriages (1780 - 1806), pg 109

I was just reminded of a technique I've used effectively to match old deeds and surveys to current maps to help find our ancestors property in rural areas. Many people understand that the names of the roads change over time but don't realize that the location of the streets change also as do property lines when adjacent properties are consolidated or subdivided. Years ago Microsoft put together a free prototype web site called terraserver at http://terraserver.microsoft.com (not terraserver.com which is a pay for service knock-off). This site has sattelite or aerial photography of most of the United States that is correlated to topographical maps which have current streets and buildings, etc. marked on them. You can pan or zoom in on either map and then click a button and switch to the other. If you know what to look for the photographs will clearly show both the old and new boundaries. The clues to look for are shadows and lines of trees and other vegetation that grow along fences. Roads that have been removed also show clearly since the ground was often leveled with ditches along the sides that will show up as shadows and continuous indentations along the ground. I have seen instances where you could not tell a road had been there when you were at the actual site but when looking from above it is very clear and lines up perfectly with the early surveys. Paul Redden www.yesterbooks.com

http://www.combs-families.org/combs/records/va/pw.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pansylea Willburn" <willburn@earthlink.net> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:28 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] URL to the 1738 Prince William rent rolls > Thank you for posting the information on the 1738 Prince William rolls. > I very much want to look at them. When I put the URL in as it is > posted, I get the response that it can't be located. Can you check to > see if it is printed exactly right here? I appreciate all of your > postings. (Edward Wilburn (various spellings) was in Prince William > at least from 1751 and in Fauquier after it was formed). Do you know > if the 1750-1757 tax lists for Prince William are in print? Thank > you. Pansylea Howard Willburn > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz > with questions concerning this list! > >

> Bryant: 2 marriages > > Groom Record: > David Bryant married Polly Crank Father: none 22 Jan 180? > Henry Bryant married Elizabeth Moon Father: Littlebury Moon 19 > Jan 178? > > Wife Record: > None > > The person who copied and sent to late husband copy came out back left > off the last digit. But the good news is I have the marriage record > if you need me to find it. I will say will > take a few days though. > > Rebecca >

> Bruce: 3 wife record marriages > > Groom Record: > none > > Wife Record: > > Caty Bruce married Gooling Harding Father: none 30 Aug 179? > Polly Denise Bruce married John Grant Father: none 4 Aug 1804 > Sally Bruce married Zachariah Garrison Father: none 26 Dec 179? > > The person who copied and sent to late husband copy came out back left > off the last digit. > But the good news is I have the marriage record if you need me to find > it. I will say will > take a few days though. > > Rebecca

Oops! The link to A9: http://www.A9.com Kathleen Bowen Ridge Manor, Florida - The heart of the beautiful Nature Coast katbowen@earthlink.net or kathleen.bowen@gmail.com FTM Pages: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen Your daily life is your temple and your religion. - Kahlil Gibran ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Bowen To: Hdanw@aol.com Cc: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 2:42 PM Subject: OT: Search engines (was "Re: [VAFAUQUI] URL to the 1738 Prince William rent rolls") Hi, Dogpile uses a search matrix very much like Google. I prefer Google's format. And, please do more than the regular search. All family researchers should check out "Google Local." Go to Google (http://www.google.com) and then click on "more>>" Then scroll to the link for "Google Local" which has a compass icon over it. Click it. In the "What" field enter "genealogy" without the quote marks. In the "Where" field enter a town and state you wish to research (I used "Warrenton, Virginia" - without the quote marks - to test it. There is a new contender, though: A9 from Amazon.com: http://wwwA9.com It has some neat features like saving searches and bookmarking~ Kathleen Bowen <snipped>

Hi, Dogpile uses a search matrix very much like Google. I prefer Google's format. And, please do more than the regular search. All family researchers should check out "Google Local." Go to Google (http://www.google.com) and then click on "more>>" Then scroll to the link for "Google Local" which has a compass icon over it. Click it. In the "What" field enter "genealogy" without the quote marks. In the "Where" field enter a town and state you wish to research (I used "Warrenton, Virginia" - without the quote marks - to test it. There is a new contender, though: A9 from Amazon.com: http://wwwA9.com It has some neat features like saving searches and bookmarking~ Kathleen Bowen Ridge Manor, Florida - The heart of the beautiful Nature Coast katbowen@earthlink.net or kathleen.bowen@gmail.com FTM Pages: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen Your daily life is your temple and your religion. - Kahlil Gibran ----- Original Message ----- From: Hdanw@aol.com To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] URL to the 1738 Prince William rent rolls Tell you what. Rootsweb doesn't like HTML and so the URLs frequently get messed up. Do this: go to google.com type in prince william county rent rolls I believe about the third item will get you to that list. We genealogists get totally dependent on google.com My friend tells me I should use dogpile To each his own. E.W.Wallace ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== 2,500 Discussion Lists!!! USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! Special thanks to go to RootsWeb,your generous donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222

Other than using a catalog at a public library or a genealogical library near you, one of the most reliable sources for determining what MAY be available is the Family History Library Catalog. For example, if you are researching Prince William Co., from which Fauquier Co. was formed, do a Place search on _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) Type in prince william and then virginia If you want the rent rolls or similar tax lists, go down to the bottom of the topics and click on Taxation. One has to learn the terminology of the catalogers at FHL. Vital records pertain to births, marriages, and deaths [few in early Virginia unless you can get hold of a church register book]. Probates and land records are very important but tax records are also VERY useful for determining a time and a place. But, what the heck? Genealogists should use every record available. Court records may tell you scandals in the family!!! I was just reading one for early Kentucky. The son of my ancestor (I am linked to the daughter) was hauled into court for abusing his apprentice!!! And the trial went on for a time. E.W.Wallace

Tell you what. Rootsweb doesn't like HTML and so the URLs frequently get messed up. Do this: go to google.com type in prince william county rent rolls I believe about the third item will get you to that list. We genealogists get totally dependent on google.com My friend tells me I should use dogpile To each his own. E.W.Wallace

Dear Listers, I have Albemarle Co., VA, Marriages (1780 - 1806). If you need a lookup please contact me. If by chance you don't hear from me I have been having email problems. Just resend & I will answer. Sincerely, Rebecca Bashaw

Hello, I am new to the list but I live in Fauquier County and may be able to do some lookups for people or take photographs in the northwestern part of the county. I live on the grounds of the old Leeds Manor Orchard /Apple Manor Orchard on the eastern slope of the Blue Ridge mountain between Markham and Paris on a parcel of the Orchard my great great grandfather bought in 1914 as part of the original co-op and used as a vacation spot. Most of the old parcels have been combined thank goodness and the county won't let them split them up again (my parents were able to purchase a total of about 7 smaller parcels surrounding our original land to keep them from being developed) and about 3000 acres or so of the orchard was given to the state in the 1960's and is now the G. Richard Thompson Wildlife Management Area. So except for about a dozen new houses on 25 to 500 acre lots; a lack of apple trees; and forests over much of the land, the area is basically the same as it was 9! 0 years ago. about 1500-2000 acres is still cleared and offers spectacular views. I actually have the original sales broshure/picture book with fold out lithographs taken from the top of the mountain in 1914. Its amazing the forest grew that fast. Most of the small cabins are gone now with the exception of the cabin my great great aunt found abandoned and had moved on logs around the mountain to put on her 5 acres which was next to her fathers. The cabin across the street burned down about ten years or so ago when the renters went into town after packing the fireplace full of wood. Until it burned down nobody realized that it was actually a log cabin that had been covered with wood siding. It was perhaps the oldest home in these parts probably built before the Revolution. I believe I saw a name of John Ferguson as the owner on some old maps but am not sure. My family is a relative newcomer to Faquier county being here only a little over 100 years. On my mother's mothers side of the family the Barbour's came from St. Louis to the Washington area where Frank Barbour was a medical doctor working for the Government. His unmarried daughter was a clerk at the bank that handled the finances for the Leed's Manor Orhard, and his wife's family had been originally from Culpepper (Col. William Lillard) and Shenandoah/Warren (Robert & Moses McKay) Counties before heading west. On my mother's father's side of the family my great grandfather Thomas Turnbull, Jr. was a medical doctor who taught medicine in Pittsburgh, PA. His wife, Mabel Hussey Turnbull inherited a fortune from her grandfather's copper and steel empires (her father died of a heart attack in 1884 shortly after Andrew Carnegie bought out his steel plant in Homestead, PA -- now called US Steel). They bought a summer home/ estate in Casanova, VA called Melrose Castle so his wife, Mabel Hussey Turnbull could avoid the pollution in Pittsburgh for health reasons. They sold the castle to put their kids through college but after he retired they built a new home nearby called Inwood and moved to the area permanently. Their two daughters, Janet and Harriet, never married and lived in Casanova all their lives. The Turnbull's were from Scottland and not related to the earlier Turnbull's in Virginia as far as I can tell. The Hussey's, McKays, etc. were Quakers from Pennsylvania. The McKays left the Quaker church and joined the Primitive Baptists around the time of the Revolutionary War. Andrew McKay (Moses,Robert) was a Lt. Col who served under Col William Lillard in the Rev. War and/or War of 1812 and the indian wars in easter Tennesee. Andrew's sister Nancy married Col. Lillard. The Lillards and McKays settled in Cocke County, TN for a time but ended up in Missouri, where Col Lillard's, great great granddaughter, Mary Ellen Goodin married Dr. Frank Barbour from Maine and moved back to Washington, DC I have also started a small home business making exact facsimile reprints of out-of-copyright genealogy and local history books and can make copies of any books people may have or want as long as they are either out of copyright or have the written permission of the copyright owner. Most books published in 1963 or before are out of copyright but about 10% of those published between 1923 and 1963 are still under protection. Paul Redden www.yesterbooks.com

Dummy me..... I forgot to add Clay Daniel's E Mail address for your questions. Note there is a lower bar after clay that will not show up here. Ginny Keefer clay_1@airmail.net Thank you.

Hello- I am looking for at least one male with the surname of White who knows FOR SURE that their White's lived in Fauquier Co ca 1730-1825 era. Clay Daniels has located a very reasonable DNA company. I would like at least one White to contact Clay about co-operating with this DNA program. It is very reasonable at $99.00 per person. If you have family that are interested in their heritage, ask them to share in this total cost of $99.00 so it could be very cheap with a family sharing this cost. All that is involved is to send Clay the money and he will have the company send a swab test to you. One swab around the inside of your mouth and follow the instructions to secure it to mail back. It takes a few weeks but the results could be wonderful. You may learn WHO your immigrant ancestors was OR WHO they were not to narrrow your research. White's are hard to separate as you well know. Contact Clay with your questions please as he is much more informed than I. Thank you. Ginny Keefer nee Virginia Lynn White.

Thank you for posting the information on the 1738 Prince William rolls. I very much want to look at them. When I put the URL in as it is posted, I get the response that it can't be located. Can you check to see if it is printed exactly right here? I appreciate all of your postings. (Edward Wilburn (various spellings) was in Prince William at least from 1751 and in Fauquier after it was formed). Do you know if the 1750-1757 tax lists for Prince William are in print? Thank you. Pansylea Howard Willburn

If you are not familiar already with the 1738 Quit Rent Roll for Prince William Co., you may want to check the following URL _www.combs-families.org/combs/records/va/pw.htm_ It includes some people whom you find in later counties formed from Prince William Co. Also some names familiar to those of the First Germanna Colony. E.W.Wallace

Frederick Lewis Weis, THE COLONIAL CHURCHES AND THE COLONIAL CLERGY OF THE MIDDLE AND SOUTHERN COLONIES 1607-1776 [Lancaster, MA: Society of the Descendants of the Colonial Clergy, 1938], p. 62 MILL CREEK (Culpeper and Fauquier) VA. Baptist. 1772 1772-1774 Andrew Moffet 1772-1774 Martin Kaufman 1774-1804 John Koones (or Koontz) (And that is all I know. I have only three pages of this book, so do not ask for lookups. Try interlibrary loan through your local public library.) Or, alternately, use a Request for Photocopies Form which I think you can download from LDS website. Look for Forms and follow instructions. Ask for photocopies of index. Fee is involved.) E.W.Wallace