Reseaching the following families from the MD, DC, Va and OHIO areas. Stephens, Stevens. Lowe, Marth, Clagett, Browning, Ford, Pflaum, Rakow. James a. Stephens/Stevens born 1840s married 1st. Catherine Lowe in Loudoun county, Va Children were John Edwin Stephens 1893 to 1931 WW1 vet, died Ohio married Ruth E. Pflaum, daughter was married to a Rakow. Oscar Stephens lived in DC. Mrs Mable Stephens/Stevens Clagett 1885-1961 Mrs Frederick Marth Mrs Rush Browning Margery Stephens Cable Carr Stephens, lived in Herndon, Va area, possible postmaster Lola Lee died as infant If any of these fit into your family, or if these last names are in your family, please contact me. I would love photos of these folks and will pay for costs. Thanks, Brenda Scott bjs724@msn.com
I need to make a correction in the listing of children as Helen Matilda Edmonds' with James Ferguson. James Ferguson had a previous marriage. Alfred and Abnor Ferguson were the result of that marriage. They were born about 1837 & 1838. James and Helen M (Edmonds) Ferguson were married in 1843. Sorry.. Shirley
James Ferguson m'd Helen Matilda Edmonds, dau of John Edmonds and Naomi Hicks. I have their children: Betty Ferguson Abner Ferguson Alfred Ferguson Sydnor Gilbert Ferguson (Dec 11, 1846) Roberta V Ferguson Are probably not in birth order. Question: Did Sydnor and wife, Catherine H Finnell have more children than Mary, who was born Feb 1880? Did Mary marry? If so, does anyone know who? If there are any descendants of James and Helen Matilda Ferguson, please contact me. Many thinks.. Shirley Starks sstarks@tampabay.rr.com
I am not receiving any mail from Fauquier Co. Website. Can someone please send me the information on how to check the Rootsweb email lists? Sincerely, Rebecca Bashaw
Dear Listers, I have not been receiving any emails from the group. Just wondering if there's been a problem and I got knocked off. Can a moderator please send me the place to check Rootsweb for my groups I am on? Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Rebecca Bashaw
Does anyone know anything about the William(son) Thompsons listed below? I am particularly interested in the one who married Eliza Rogers. I wonder if his name was really just William, not Williamson. Thanks, Sandra GROOM: William W Thompson BRIDE: Susan K Tomlin MARRIAGE: 1 Aug 1833 COUNTY: Fauquier GROOM: Williamson Thompson BRIDE: Eliza Rogers MARRIAGE: 19 Dec 1831 COUNTY: Fauquier GROOM: William Thompson BRIDE: Betsy Johnston MARRIAGE: 1 June 1814 COUNTY: Fauquier GROOM: William Thompson BRIDE: Margaret C Gibson MARRIAGE: 28 Jan 1822 COUNTY: Fauquier GROOM: William Thompson BRIDE: Minney Christie MARRIAGE: 6 Aug 1822 COUNTY: Fauquier GROOM: William Thompson BRIDE: Nancy Davis MARRIAGE: 13 Aug 1803 COUNTY: Fauquier
The traditional naming pattern was followed often enough, to make it a reliable clue for finding or confirming other data. But remember that if the first son or daughter died at an early age, on the frontier, there may not be a record of the birth or death, and an apparent inconsistency when none really existed. I did some research recently on Quaker naming patterns -- some of my Virginia ancestors appear to have been Puritans (normally associated with New England) who later became Quakers. The Puritans, of course, seemed to have used the dictionary for names -- Original, Temperance, Cotton, for examples. The Quakers, who sometimes made it a community project, put great importance on name selection and had reasons for their choices other than family heritage. I think the use of surnames, as first names, may have had Quaker origins, but I'm not sure that there is any conclusive evidence to that. Incidentally, in the Middle Ages (circa 1100) the law of primogeniture applied to surnames. Only the eldest son could keep the family surname; all of the other children would have to find their own. If the eldest son died without issue, the name would go to his younger brother, etc. That is why there are so many English surnames based on places ("locative" names), occupations, and other descriptive methods.
In a message dated 10/27/04 5:37:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, fatig@mebtel.net writes: > Males > > First-born Son - named after the father's father > Second-born Son - named after the mother's father There's some evidence that the Helm family in the 1700's tended to name the first son after the maternal grandfather, and the 2nd after the paternal grandfather. The son named after the father is often very late (later than 3rd). The female naming is as shown. The system often breaks down because there are so few first names used that you can't tell for whom "William" or "Margaret" &c is named. Is this good information? Don't know; birth order in 18th century is often poorly documented or disputed. But it does seem to be the case. Anyone else see this variant of the pattern in their family? The system broke down around 1800 in any event. Another pattern that might exist in the first generation, ca 1700-1720, is that the 1st son is given the surname not first name of the maternal grandfather eg Meredith, Lynaugh, Mayberry. Those look like last names to me. But except for Lynaugh no one has been able to connect the dots, and it can't yet be proved. These names persisted for many generations in Helm family branches (probably still). Finding common patterns might help identify origins or early histories of these families.
Blackbeard died in 1718; his piracy was centered in North Carolina. Rev. Keith was rector of the Elk Run church in the 1740s. There is a historical novel by Margaret Hoffman based on some Blackbeard legends. Perhaps that is the source of this tale?
Would someone on the list that knows the story of Mary Isham Randolf running away with a bailif...her brothers retrieved her...she ultimately married Rev. Keith of Elk Run Church please post the story. I've read before...the man she ran off with was Blackbeard the pirate. The reason I am asking...we had a program at our DAR meeting (John Marshall Chapter) of Ghost Stories. The storyteller presented a story about the death of Blackbeard. I asked if she was going to make the Marshall connection, she hadn't heard the story. Thanks, Laura Louisville, Ky.
June, Thank you so very much for the below link. What an interesting overlook of our past. Everyone might want to print this off and use it for reference. Are the rates at the bottom of it still in effect for joining the Friends of the Archives, or have they increased? Tosca "People will never look forward to posterity who never look back to their ancestors" by Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cpzb4@aol.com> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] 18th Century Law Talk > For those of you are interested in Virginia and Kentucy, I think you will > find this interesting and informative. > The artile is by John P. Alock [18th Century Law Talk] > > _http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/Virginia_Law.html_ > (http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/Virginia_Law.html) > (http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/Virginia_Law.html) June > > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Jim Burgess,list administrator mailto:jim@promobiz.biz > with questions concerning this list! >
Following the thread on naming patterns, I wonder if anyone has seen a Robert Edwards possibly married to a Sarah... around 1750 to 1820 in Fauquier County (or an adjoining county). I am looking for the parents of my Jemima (Mima) Edwards who married John Wine (Wyne) in 1800 in Fauquier County. Cindi Bomersheim
I've seen this pattern cited frequently, but have never seen any authority or research to back it up. While it might generally hold for some ethnic groups in some times and places, a researcher could go badly astray by relying on it. The naming of children is a personal thing and depended on the parents' inclinations, then as now. Jeff Hume-Pratuch, CG > -----Original Message----- > From: Elizabeth Withers [mailto:ersw@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:49 PM > To: VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: family history > > > Can anyone out there tell me what the old naming pattern is, > that they used back in the 1700 and 1800 to name the > children. I had this information at one time and now I can't > find it. Thanks for the help. Elizabeth Withers ersw@bellsouth.net > > ______________________________ >
For those of you are interested in Virginia and Kentucy, I think you will find this interesting and informative. The artile is by John P. Alock [18th Century Law Talk] _http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/Virginia_Law.html_ (http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/Virginia_Law.html) (http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/Virginia_Law.html) June
Naming Patterns in the 18th & 19th Century In general, families tended to name their children in a specific pattern, as follows: Males First-born Son - named after the father's father Second-born Son - named after the mother's father Third-born Son - named after the father Fourth-born Son - named after the father's eldest brother Fifth-born Son - named after the father's 2nd oldest brother or mother's oldest brother Females First-born Daughter - named after the mother's mother Second-born Daughter - named after the father's mother Third-born Daughter - named after the mother Fourth-born Daughter - named after the mother's eldest sister Fifth-born Daughter - named after the mother's 2nd oldest sister or father's oldest sister The above is from: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/8088/patterns.html
Can anyone out there tell me what the old naming pattern is, that they used back in the 1700 and 1800 to name the children. I had this information at one time and now I can't find it. Thanks for the help. Elizabeth Withers ersw@bellsouth.net
Jeptha Windsor born 1788 in VA. not sure of county but, in this area. Need parents. Thank you for any help you can give me, Sondra
I missed the address of "Lincoln's Farquier Roots" article, - will you please send it to me? Jfar171@aol.com
Recently, someone was looking for the surname Greenway, I believe. I'm sending this to several lists, for I no longer recall which list. There is a Greenway cemetery near the road between Front Royal (Warren Co) & Flint Hill (Rapp Co). I found it on Eugene Scheel's Rapp. Co. Map. It appears to lay just into Rapp. Co. Shirley Starks
Dear Listers Just wanted you to know, I am going to be out of pocket as my grandmother passed away this afternoon. I am taking care of my parents house & animals, so am in between their home and my condo. I know I have some lookups to do and will get to them when I can. Please bare with me. Sincerely, Rebecca Bashaw