Welcome to Southern Fauquier County, the beautiful bridge between bustling Northern Virginia and the tranquil foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Fauquier retains the charm and character of its agricultural heritage. The rich and colorful history of the country where Chief Justice John Marshall grew up and Colonel John Singleton Mosby rode to fame is preserved in markers and monuments and in twelve stops on the Virginia Civil War Trails. ???? ___________________________________________________________ Bealeton Established as Spring Hill on March 26, 1814, the name changed to Germantown on November 15, 1823. Discontinued on May 27, 1840 and reestablished on March 18, 1843. The Bealeton Right of Way was given to the Orange and Alexandria Railroad by the Beale family in 1850. Bealeton was named for John G. Beale Sr. on October 30, 1852. Bealeton was a small thriving town located where Remington Road runs parallel to Route 17. It curved around and crossed over the tracks where Schoolhouse Road and Remington Road now meet. A garage, lumberyard, lime and fertilizer store, general store, and a post office were some of the business in Bealeton. There was also a cheese factory where the animal hospital is now. During World War II the Government funded a cannery at Cedar Lee Middle School as part of the Agricultural Program to teach housewives to preserve food. There was also at least one Beer Garden in Bealeton. The train used to stop in Bealeton and you could ride it to Washington D.C. and back in the same day for only $1.00. Bealeton is the home of Liberty High School and is located north of the intersection of Route 17 and Route 28. ???? ___________________________________________________________ Calverton Formerly known as Owl Run even though the railroad junction at Calverton was called Warrenton Junction. Located at the intersection of Routes 28 and 616. ???? ___________________________________________________________ Casanova Casanova is located at the intersection of Routes 602 and 616. Home of the Casanova Hunt, it still has a village green for the opening hunt meets. The post office there was honored by Lady Bird Johnson's Beautification Committee in 1959 as Virginia's most beautiful. ???? ___________________________________________________________ Catlett's Station Village resident Susan Emiline Caldwell described in a letter Stuart's cavalry capture of 200 Union prisoners and $25,000. The Rebels also nabbed Union Gen. John Pope's personal items, including his dispatch book. Intelligence from the book enables Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson to develop a strategy that lead to victory at Second Manassas a week later. (Marker at Catlett Station Antiques on Old Catlett Road.) ???? ___________________________________________________________ Germantown Germantown was the first village to thrive in Fauquier County. All that remains lies in the vicinity of Crockett Park near Midland. Fragments of stone foundation, weathered tombstones, and traces of German Rolling road are still visible. Germantown began when 17 iron miners from Nassau-Seigen, Germany arrived in Virginia in 1714. Governor Spotswood settled them in a frontier outpost he named Germanna. When differences arose between the Governor and the Germans in 1718 they purchased 1,805 acres further into the northern wilderness along an old Iroquois trail in Fauquier County. The property was divided equally among the settlers with each settler donating 10 acres to form a glebe, whereupon Fauquier County's first church, parsonage, and school were constructed. As a result of their prosperity the settlers acquired abundant land elsewhere and by the Revolution all of the original settlers had relocated. ???? ___________________________________________________________ Goldvein Formerly called Grove's Church. There were two churches named Grove in the area. It was renamed for the gold that had been actively mined from the area for many years. It was an important supplier of gold for the Confederate army during the Civil War. Goldvein is located on Route 17 just north of deep run. It is the home of Monroe Park Gold Mining Mess Hall. The County Parks and Recreation department has reached an agreement with the Chamber of Commerce to establish a visitor center in the Mess Hall for tourists entering the county from the south. Departmental personnel will staff the center 3 days a week and the Chamber will staff it 3 days per week. Volunteers are needed to help provide tourism assistance as well as answer questions related to the county's rich gold mining history. ___________________________________________________________ Kelly's Ford On St. Patrick's Day 1863, troops led by two friends and former West Point classmates battled for nearly 12 hours. Union Gen. William Averell and Confederate Gen. Fitzhugh Lee exchanged coffee and tobacco along with gunfire that day -- a common ritual between armies. (Marker on Culpeper side of Kelly's Ford Bridge.) ???? ___________________________________________________________ Midland So called because it is mid-way between Alexandria and Orange. Situated at 300 feet above sea level, the water that falls on the north side of town drains to the Rappahannock River. Located at routes 28 and 610, Midland is the birthplace of Chief Justice John Marshall, home to the county airport and CM Crockett Park. The park is located on Route 643 (Meetze Rd) south of Warrenton. It is a 109-acre lake and 100 acre park with picnic shelters, boat ramp, boat rental, nature trail, concession stand, Amphitheatre, weekly programs, special events and fishing. ___________________________________________________________ Morrisville The origin of this name is unknown; however, the first Court of Fauquier County was held at a house situated on property three-quarters of a mile northwest of Morrisville. Located at the junction of Route 17 and Route 806. (The following information was obtained from an article written in the early 1900's.) Morrisville has long been noted for its healthfulness, intelligence, refinement and high appreciation of education. Morrisville is probably the oldest place in Fauquier County. It was here that the first county seat of Fauquier was established. ___________________________________________________________ Opal (Fayettesville) Formerly known as New Brighton Post Office, it was established on thirty acres of land then owned by Austin Miskell in 1798. Opal is at the intersection of Routes 17 and 29. ???? ___________________________________________________________ Remington The only incorporated town in the southern portion of Fauquier County. It was incorporated in 1890 after having been called at various times Mill View, Bowensville, and Rappahannock Station. It is the home of M. M. Pierce elementary school. Remington has changed little in the past century. It boasts and old-fashioned drug store, complete with the original soda fountain. Near the Rappahannock River, the village (now Remington) stood at a strategic battleground for control of the Orange and Alexandria Railroad. On Nov. 7, 1863, Union soldiers launched a "rare night attack (resulting in) the capture of more than 1,600 (Confederates)." The battle marked the confederates' last defense of the upper Rappahannock River in the war. (Marker on James Madison Highway in Remington.) The Washingtonian Magazine voted Remington best small town and Best Place To Work At Home. (March 1999), a place where you can find friendly neighbors, safer streets, charm and a slower pace. ???? ___________________________________________________________ Sumerduck Sumerduck was so named for large flocks of ducks that used to appear every summer. Sumerduck is the home of the Chester A. Phelps Wildlife Management Area. The Wildlife Management area consists of 4,540 acres along the Rappahannock River with hunting, fishing, hiking and horseback riding trails including handicapped accessible trails and facilities for the disabled. It is operated by the VA Department of Game and Inland Fisheries. The Chester A. Phelps Wildlife Management Area and the village of Sumerduck are located approximately 4 miles off Route 17 from Goldvein on Route 651. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003

After looking at the photo my guess would be that it is a class photo of all the students that year. My school days started in a one-room building with one row for each grade (1 thru 8). Some of the students in this photo could pass for high school age, not all of them though. The teachers in the back row would be for each of the grades. Good luck in identifying any of the people. By the way, is Morrisville anywhere near Goldvein? Thanks, Estelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kreh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] HELP - Morrisville High School Photo Found > Going through some of my father's things, I stumbled upon a photograph > from Morrisville School, which used to be a functional school next to the > Morrisville Methodist Church, which is next to the house I grew up in. I > always thought it was a high school, but some of these kids look a little > young for high school. Anyway, I have no idea of the date of the photo, > and I have no idea who ANY of the people are, as nothing was labeled on > the back except "Morrisville School". Growing up, my neighbor was Mary > Walter, after whom the elementary school on my road was named, so maybe > this was one of her class pictures, or maybe not. I believe she would > have graduated around 1918. Anyway, take a look, and if anyone looks > familiar, let me know, and I'll start keeping tabs. If anyone has more > info on the school itself, I'd appreciate it. The building is still > standing, now the home of Fox Antiques, I believe. Thanks! > > Smaller size: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tkreh/Morrisville_HS_Small.jpg > > Larger size: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tkreh/Morrisville_HS_Large.jpg > > Tim > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those searching for information of early Kentuckians, those ancestors who may have migrated to Kentucky, there MAY be some clues in the volumes I am going to tell you about. These may not be found in just any library, as I am sure they are rather expensive. Ask your local public librarian how you can interlibrary loan books. I understand University and some college libraries permit their books to be interlibrary loaned, and some State Libraries do also, providing they have a genealogical collection!!! The first set of books I am telling you about are the three volumes compiled by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love and entitled The 1787 Census of Virginia. This is not a census in the format we think of US censuses. These are lists of personal property taxes for nearly every existing county in Virginia in 1787, including several counties which are now in Kentucky, then a part of Virginia, and, of course, what is now West Virginia. In many ways, these tax lists (personal property, not real property) tell you more about your ancestor's wealth and place of residence (or places, as some of those listed had personal property in several locales) than the early censuses do. These tax lists for that year replace the missing 1790 census of Virginia, which would have been sketchy at best. Oh, yes, and widows are listed also. They generally were not taxed, but they are listed with their taxable males [sons and apprentices, et al]. The third volume of these three volumes is the every-surname index to the preceding two volumes. What I have learned to do: Photocopy every instance in the INDEX of your family surnames. Then find a quiet corner and note in numerical order all the pages which you want to examine/photocopy. Do this on a CLEAN sheet of paper, preferably 8 1/2 x 11. If you photocopy the pages [which you probably should do, as you will need this info for documentation], then you can proceed in an orderly fashion and not be flipping pages back and forth at the photocopy machine and aggravate your fellow researchers. Why should you photocopy ALL the surnames, say, for a name like Harris? Because these folks may be related, or, like myself, you MAY find your ancestor not only owned personal property, say slaves or horses, in a Virginia county as well as in a Kentucky county. Be sure to check out the wives' surnames also. Familes seldom migrated alone--they needed protection!!! Nelson County, Kentucky was one of the more or less original HUGE counties in Kentucky. It divided into many different counties, and if you have a common name like Adams, you may have to track every one of those families!!! The reason that many Virginians, North Carolinians and Pennsylvanians sought residence in Kentucky, in spite of the fights put against them by our native Americans, was LAND. And because of many conflicting land claims, there were MANY court cases. One of the volumes you might inspect is called something like Kentucky Court of Appeals. You may find some wonderful depositions in these volumes, and I cannot readily give you all the names of these volumes, I highly recommend that you access the online Family History Library catalog on _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) The link to the catalog is on the far right. Click on that. Then do an author search for these authors/compilers: Michael L. Cook and Bettie Cummings Cook For the person seeking people in Nelson Co., Kentucky, this is a reminder: Nelson was formed 1784, created from Jefferson County However, I know from my own research that a good many of my Germanna Colony folks from Fauquier and perhaps Culpeper Co. migrated to Garrard Co. and to Mercer Co., Kentucky. But you may have to search adjoining counties also. Alas, some of the earliest censuses for Kentucky are missing, but tax lists [ah, yes, taxes] for nearly every year and for nearly every county exist. Some of these have been published for individual counties and in old copies of the Register of the Kentucky Historical Society. I am told [third hand] that Virginia nearly emptied of population after the American Revolution. In fact, some of my Southside Virginians, I learned while reading records of northern North Carolina records, sought refuge in North Carolina--until the Tories showed up there, too!!! Good luck in finding your common-named ancestors, of whom I have a-plenty. It keeps me busy thumbing through all kinds of books--and when I have time, microfilms!! The internet helps me meet new cousins, but many of them know less than I do!!! Censuses on the internet are a help--but not only did the census-taker make mistakes--but the indexers of the internet censuses made gross errors in transcribing the names!!! And then, I find in some cases, the microfilm from NARA has missing pages or big ink blots just where your ancestor tells you his place of birth!!! E.W.Wallace whose Fauquier folks went to Kentucky and thence to Missouri and to Texas!! **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Going through some of my father's things, I stumbled upon a photograph from Morrisville School, which used to be a functional school next to the Morrisville Methodist Church, which is next to the house I grew up in. I always thought it was a high school, but some of these kids look a little young for high school. Anyway, I have no idea of the date of the photo, and I have no idea who ANY of the people are, as nothing was labeled on the back except "Morrisville School". Growing up, my neighbor was Mary Walter, after whom the elementary school on my road was named, so maybe this was one of her class pictures, or maybe not. I believe she would have graduated around 1918. Anyway, take a look, and if anyone looks familiar, let me know, and I'll start keeping tabs. If anyone has more info on the school itself, I'd appreciate it. The building is still standing, now the home of Fox Antiques, I believe. Thanks! Smaller size: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tkreh/Morrisville_HS_Small.jpg Larger size: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tkreh/Morrisville_HS_Large.jpg Tim ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ

Here's some links on what they are talking about - tax lists, VA and KY they aren't all loaded, none for KY so far - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/index.htm and this one will show you which library closest to you has the book you want, universities inclued, I don't know how comprehensive it is - http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/ Julie in CA [email protected] wrote: For those searching for information of early Kentuckians, those ancestors who may have migrated to Kentucky, there MAY be some clues in the volumes I am going to tell you about. These may not be found in just any library, as I am sure they are rather expensive. Ask your local public librarian how you can interlibrary loan books. I understand University and some college libraries permit their books to be interlibrary loaned, and some State Libraries do also, providing they have a genealogical collection!!! The first set of books I am telling you about are the three volumes compiled by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love and entitled The 1787 Census of Virginia. This is not a census in the format we think of US censuses. These are lists of personal property taxes for nearly every existing county in Virginia in 1787, including several counties which are now in Kentucky, then a part of Virginia, and, of course, what is now West Virginia. In many ways, these tax lists (personal property, not real property) tell you more about your ancestor's wealth and place of residence (or places, as some of those listed had personal property in several locales) than the early censuses do. These tax lists for that year replace the missing 1790 census of Virginia, which would have been sketchy at best. Oh, yes, and widows are listed also. They generally were not taxed, but they are listed with their taxable males [sons and apprentices, et al]. The third volume of these three volumes is the every-surname index to the preceding two volumes. What I have learned to do: Photocopy every instance in the INDEX of your family surnames. Then find a quiet corner and note in numerical order all the pages which you want to examine/photocopy. Do this on a CLEAN sheet of paper, preferably 8 1/2 x 11. If you photocopy the pages [which you probably should do, as you will need this info for documentation], then you can proceed in an orderly fashion and not be flipping pages back and forth at the photocopy machine and aggravate your fellow researchers. Why should you photocopy ALL the surnames, say, for a name like Harris? Because these folks may be related, or, like myself, you MAY find your ancestor not only owned personal property, say slaves or horses, in a Virginia county as well as in a Kentucky county. Be sure to check out the wives' surnames also. Familes seldom migrated alone--they needed protection!!! Nelson County, Kentucky was one of the more or less original HUGE counties in Kentucky. It divided into many different counties, and if you have a common name like Adams, you may have to track every one of those families!!! The reason that many Virginians, North Carolinians and Pennsylvanians sought residence in Kentucky, in spite of the fights put against them by our native Americans, was LAND. And because of many conflicting land claims, there were MANY court cases. One of the volumes you might inspect is called something like Kentucky Court of Appeals. You may find some wonderful depositions in these volumes, and I cannot readily give you all the names of these volumes, I highly recommend that you access the online Family History Library catalog on _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) The link to the catalog is on the far right. Click on that. Then do an author search for these authors/compilers: Michael L. Cook and Bettie Cummings Cook For the person seeking people in Nelson Co., Kentucky, this is a reminder: Nelson was formed 1784, created from Jefferson County However, I know from my own research that a good many of my Germanna Colony folks from Fauquier and perhaps Culpeper Co. migrated to Garrard Co. and to Mercer Co., Kentucky. But you may have to search adjoining counties also. Alas, some of the earliest censuses for Kentucky are missing, but tax lists [ah, yes, taxes] for nearly every year and for nearly every county exist. Some of these have been published for individual counties and in old copies of the Register of the Kentucky Historical Society. I am told [third hand] that Virginia nearly emptied of population after the American Revolution. In fact, some of my Southside Virginians, I learned while reading records of northern North Carolina records, sought refuge in North Carolina--until the Tories showed up there, too!!! Good luck in finding your common-named ancestors, of whom I have a-plenty. It keeps me busy thumbing through all kinds of books--and when I have time, microfilms!! The internet helps me meet new cousins, but many of them know less than I do!!! Censuses on the internet are a help--but not only did the census-taker make mistakes--but the indexers of the internet censuses made gross errors in transcribing the names!!! And then, I find in some cases, the microfilm from NARA has missing pages or big ink blots just where your ancestor tells you his place of birth!!! E.W.Wallace whose Fauquier folks went to Kentucky and thence to Missouri and to Texas!! --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.

I am interested in any connections between Adams families and Harrell, Harrill etc. in Northern Va.. Several Harrells also left Va and settled in Nelson co. Ky.. We have also found that the line of Housen Harrill of western NC is apparently not connected to Richard Harrell, Sr. of Augusta, Shenandoah, Frederick co. Va.. Richard and his six sons settled in Augusta on the South Shenandoah River about 1740.. I am looking for information on both of these Harrell, Harrill lines before 1800 in N. VA.. Thanks for any Information, Clues or Discussion.. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

The ISBN for Slaves in the Family is 0783886284. It sells on many online used-book sites for as little as $10, including shipping. The ISBN for Genetic Strand is 0743266587. It sells on many online used-book sites for as little as $13, including shipping. There is a preview of many of the pages from "Genetic Strand" on Google Books. The best way to shop for used books, I have found is through _www.bookfinder. com_ (http://www.bookfinder.com/) , which will link you to all seller sites with the book. You can search for ISBN (which is sort of like a Social Security Number, for a book) or by its author and title. Both books by Edward Ball can be ordered new through your local bookstore. And, of course, many libraries should have them on their shelves. **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Is there an Index online for these two books? 1) Slaves in the Family 2) The Genetic Strand Where are these two books sold? Thanks.. Shirley S. > Dear List, ...................snipped...........................> > Edward Ball wrote Slaves In The Family, a winner of the National Book > Award. The book told the story of the author's Ball family from South > Carolina, their genealogy, their slaves, and their slaves' families. > This was made possible by the extensive family and business records that > had been preserved. > > Ball has now written a second book The Genetic Strand. ......................................................snipped....................> > Hope others on the list enjoy the book as much as I have. > > Robert N. Grant > 15 Campo Bello Court > Menlo Park, CA 94025 > [email protected]

Hi! I've been very excited to learn that there was an Adams family in Fauquier, originally from MD. I am descended from an Adams family that has roots in Nelson County, KY. My third gr grandfather James Adams was born in Nelson in 1814 and his marriage records indicate that his parents were born in Nelson. I have some reason to believe, but no knockdown evidence, that my Adams family in KY is connected with a group of Adams that came from the northern VA area/MD area to Nelson. Some genealogies I've found on RootsWeb indicate that this Fauquier line of Adams did move to KY, but I can't find any work on any of them moving into the Nelson area. If anyone has traced the Fauquier Adams--especially John and George--into Nelson County, I'd be glad to hear about your research. One cousin and myself have the family well covered from 1814 on, but prior to that things are sketchy. Thanks for any help! Robert Schneider

Both books are sold at Border's and Barnes & Noble and are also at my library and probably other book stores as well. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shirley Starks Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Ball Books, Where Sold? Is there an Index online for these two books? 1) Slaves in the Family 2) The Genetic Strand Where are these two books sold? Thanks.. Shirley S. > Dear List, ...................snipped...........................> > Edward Ball wrote Slaves In The Family, a winner of the National Book > Award. The book told the story of the author's Ball family from South > Carolina, their genealogy, their slaves, and their slaves' families. > This was made possible by the extensive family and business records that > had been preserved. > > Ball has now written a second book The Genetic Strand. ......................................................snipped............... .....> > Hope others on the list enjoy the book as much as I have. > > Robert N. Grant > 15 Campo Bello Court > Menlo Park, CA 94025 > [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

MORRISON, Tarpley & Charlott T. Barbee Marriage Bond: Dec. 4, 1804 bdsm: Thomas & Ann Jordan (consent) ? JORDAN, Thomas & Anna Barbee, widow Oct. 26, 1791 - bdsm: James Withers Source: JOhn K. Gott ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003

A John Carter was posting on the Clarke county, VA list - I've still got the post if you want his email... I don't know if they are the same family or not, just thought I would help. Julie in CA Anne CARTER was born 1822 in Frederick County now Clarke County . I think she is the sister of James L. CARTER and they are possibly the children of James CARTER and Frances ?? Does anyone have any help for me on this? Jackie King <[email protected]> wrote: List - While much has been written about the descendants of Robert "King" Carter, one family has been largely ignored and, of course, that would be the one I have a special interest in. Charles Landon Carter was born abt 1774 to Landon Carter Jr. and Judith Lucy Fauntleroy. He later married an Ann Stuart/Stewart probably about 1800-1801 and in 1801 inherited the Ridgeville estate near Upperville in Fauquier county. Charles and his wife were the parents of at least nine children, several of whom moved to St. Louis where they were involved in steamshipping and a number of legal cases including the Dred Scott case. The oldest daughter, Marion Carter, b. abt 1805 married naval Lt. Hillary Hanson Rhodes in 1834 and the couple made their home near Leesburg until her death in 1844. The Rhodes/Carter marriage is of particular interest to me. The children who moved to St. Louis were also very involved in business dealings with an army paymaster by the name of Adam Duncan Steuart. What few details I have on him indicate he probably also came from this neck of the woods, and several details make me wonder if he is not in some fashion related to Ann Stuart for whom I have no details. While I can sketch out much about this family,particularly after many of them moved to St. Louis, it has been tough to come by any details, particularly death and marriage details. Can anyone fill in any information on this family? Thanks in advance, Jackie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.

Dear List, For those interested in the use of DNA for genealogical purposes, I have an enjoyable read to suggest. Edward Ball wrote Slaves In The Family, a winner of the National Book Award. The book told the story of the author's Ball family from South Carolina, their genealogy, their slaves, and their slaves' families. This was made possible by the extensive family and business records that had been preserved. Ball has now written a second book The Genetic Strand. One of the cousins Ball had interviewed for his first book died and left her estate, including various pieces of antique furniture, to another relative, who did not want the furniture. Ball bought the furniture from the relative to furnish his new/old home in Charleston. While inspecting a desk, Ball discovered a secret drawer in which were stored packets of hair from the 1800's and labeled for the person from whom the hair had been taken. This discovery started Ball on his genetic odyssey, which he recounts in the book., including the surprising discoveries about his ancestral roots. Hope others on the list enjoy the book as much as I have. Robert N. Grant 15 Campo Bello Court Menlo Park, CA 94025 [email protected] -- Robert N. Grant Grant & Gordon, LLP 525 University Avenue Suite 1325 Palo Alto, CA 94301 Phone Number: 650-614-3800 Fax Number: 650-614-3810 Email: [email protected]

Genealogy of Adam's & Naylor's of Maryland later Fauquier Co VA. http://cliffadams.com/adamsfamily.htm

Hi Ginny, I guess that depends on you and others if you want to continue talking about DNA or not. There is a genealogy-dna mailing list at Rootsweb that can be subscribed to with professionals on it that can answer most questions anyone might have. I am on that mailing list too and it is a good one. : ) Marianne Dillow "Virginia L. (Ginny) Keefer" <[email protected]> wrote: ARE WE THROUGH DISCUSSING DNA? [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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To all who have commented.? I am the project manager for a Stribling Family DNA group.? We investigated SMGF and FTDNA before selecting FTDAN.? True, it costs significantly for the tests, but the support and extensive results are well worth the investment.? It helps to have as many participants as possible to have sufficient data base for reliable relationship results. Bill Stribling -----Original Message----- From: Nelda Percival <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 7:01 pm Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Free DNA testing Hi, First, I have tested with SMGF, I have read the paperwork that came with the kits. It is a way to test free, if you can wait to find your results or if you want to donate. Some of the markers they test are different from FTDNA and the other companies, so it is worth the wait for these additional markers, for those of us who want to test all the markers we can. I tested as a donation, but my male relative tested for those extra markers. That was in 05 I'm still trying to find either sets of results. NeldaNelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003

I have a cousin who lives in Utah. He says what the church does not own outright, they control throughtout the state. I don't want the chuch in my business wthout my concent or knowledge. This company is far too secretive for me

Ginny, I'll try to get someone on the Genealogy-DNA mailing list... (we have some PHd's in genetics answering questions there..) to answer your questions.. but remember this, testing is not free it costs and most business that you speak of won't pay to get those areas tested.. I do know that the tests are different. I do know the Y-DNA test, 12, 25, 37, 67, YSTR markers do not give medical information except for the DYS464 which if null indicates a sterile male. THe more advanced tests at FTDNA can reveal medical info, and the X chromosomes can give medical information. I'm not sure on MT-DNA...I've heard that because it is multiple females of the family it isn't good to post publically with any complete connection to your name. It is ok to post it with the person's info coded... By the way... you do not give blood for testing... it is the salvia and skin tissue of the inside of the mouth..They have been usng the inside of the mouth for years. Testing different type speciums cost differently due to the extraction of the DNA. Nelda Nelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:03:57 -0800> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Free DNA test> > That is the real reason, I suggest caution. Why some portions are reserved > for legal reasons of this testing.> > It is my understanding that there are several DNA types of testing and each > handle a specific type of testing other than just to check specific blood > lines.> Wish there was someone qualified on this site who could tell us about the > different types of DNA that can be obtained the same way.> This is one reason many people are afraid to give blood for DNA tests.> I had a DNA and paid for a distant cousin to have one to be sure we were on > the same track. I am not afraid of DNA for genealogy purposes.> I am just concerned with a huge company being so generation.> Insurances and big employment offices would love to collect some types of > DNA.> Maybe I am just a hick but I am worried for our researchers that may be on a > budget and get sucked into something unaware.> [email protected] > >

Ginny, You have the wrong idea, SMGF is a research project. that is why you don't pay and you don't get your results. Out of the kindness of their hearts they will post results but... not notify you of it.. Some legal part they must keep the findings private... That is why you have to search for the results.. They could not use the info in their research project if they sold anything to any body ... Mr. Sorenson who is funding this research project is a multi - millionaire. He is funding it for the research project, and your info is not sold... But, what about your DNA results would be worth buying by anyone? You have to have a product worth selling to have anyone buy it.... Nelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:00:07 -0800> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Free DNA test> > I would use caution when you are accepting a free offer. DNA, as we in > genealogy know it, only selects ancestry lines.> I know almost nothing about DNA but free rings my bell. Nothing is ever > free.> Who knows who this information is sold to> Someone is being paid somewhere > in this chain....bet my last dollar. Ginny> [email protected] > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message