Ginny, please tell us what page has the will. I'd love to read through the entire case but don't have time now. Thank you. Brenda Payne Rose, whose paternal grandmother was a Burgess!

Help!! Wondering if there are any guardian bonds for: Children of ??unknown LEE & Susannah (maiden name Suddoth) Reuben LEE b. 1775 who married Elizabeth (Betsy) Suddoth Jun. 1798 Willis LEE b. abt 1779 who married Sally Headley Dec. 1802 whose mother was Lucy Headley Mary LEE b. abt 1782 who married Benjamin Bolin Jan. 1804 Reuben & Willis received property deed from their Uncle Moses Suddoth in 1797. By 1830 Mary Lee Bolin, Reuben & Willis had moved to Ohio.

Ginny, What a great Christmas gift. thanks Jim Burgess Fauquier County, Virginia USGENWEB www.virginiasurnames.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Virginia L. (Ginny) Keefer Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Edward Burgess' Will Will of Edward Burgess. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/ChanceryWebQ/viewer/index.asp?casefilenumber=061-17 89-018 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tootsie, No, but much is in the information that June posted from VA State Library Chancery Record. I brought up William White and was able to read the entire will fraud case from the death of my William White Jr who died abt 1804 in Haymarket, Prince William Co VA and it was finally ordered to be brought to Fauquier Co by the Judge. It took many years but finally was settled abt 1824. James Bailey, died ca 1777. The widow of James Bailey, [1777]married widower William White Jr b ca 1730 VA- d ca 1804. She was Ann White in Court. I have no idea what her name was when she married James Bailey. Ann means Nancy, maybe Hannah, etc. Or just Anne. There are 90 pages of letters, orders, witnesses, etc. It is interesting. Great of June to help us so much on line. I had never used that Library before. Will now. Ginny. [email protected]

Is this William White connected to James White m. Elizabeth (Gibson, I think) who joined the REV in Fauquier Co.??? I hope, I hope. Tootsie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:45 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Information on a few William White's > > I hope this helps. > > WILLIAM WHITE (his X Mark) gdn. of Nanny, Molly, Thomas and William > > Bailey, orphs. of James Bailey, dec'd. 24 March I777. For: £500. Sec: > Thomas > > Keith, William Hunton. (Note: Nanny Bailey, orph. of James Bailey, dec'd. > chose > > William White her gdn. White also to be gdn. to Molly, Thomas and William > > Bailey .. (March Court 1777). > > > NALLS, Wm., Jr., & Mary Bailey, Dec. 11, 1787 - bdsm: Wm. White; date of > MR Dec. 13, 1787 > > > > > > NALLS, Wm., Jr., & Mary Bailey, Dec. 11, 1787 - bdsm: Wm. White; date of > MR Dec. 13, 1787 > > > > JOHN WHITE, gdn. of William White, the natural son of Nancy White. 27 > > Jan. 1817. For: $200. Sec: Asa Hume > > > > BAILEY, James & Elizabeth White, Feb. 28, 1786 - bdsm: d/o Wm. > > > > GARRISON, Nelson & Eleanor White, Apr. 1, 1820 - bdsm: d/o William > > > WHITE, William & Elizabeth Waters, Jan. 27, 1817 - bdsm: John White > > > WHITE, William & Harriet Feagans, Mar. 28, 1842 - bdsm: d/o John > > > WHITE, William & Lydia McDonald, Jan. 1, 1799 - bdsm: d/o Jared > > > > June > > -----Original Message----- > From: Virginia L. (Ginny) Keefer <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:19 pm > Subject: Fw: [VAFAUQUI] Guardian Bonds > > > Thank you for posting all these bonds. So many of them bear names that are > associated with my William White. I rarely locate any information about > Wm. He was listed in 1761 Roster of Troops out of Fauquier Co VA under > Capt. Wm. Edmonds. Carr Bailey was in same group. > > William White apparently married someone named Mary ___ per a 1970 > membership accepted by D.A.R. She was the mother of all of his children. > He became guardian of his friend, James Bailey's, children when James > died. William White listed as Jr. on his will dated 1797 Haymarket, Prince > Wm. Co VA. His second wife was Ann, widow of James Bailey. Fauquier Co > Court ordered the Will probated in May of 1804. I assume that is when Ann > Bailey White died? I know nothing about James or Ann Bailey. No idea what > her maiden name was. > If you come across anything more for my William White, I would love to see > it. Thank you for all the fine work you do on- line for us. > Ginny Keefer > [email protected] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If anyone is interested in William Spicer Sr. and William Spicer Jr vs James Basye there is a chancery suit on the Va Library site at: http://www.lva.lib.va.us/ChanceryWebQ/viewer/index.asp?casefilenumber=061-1804-005 ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

I hope this helps. WILLIAM WHITE (his X Mark) gdn. of Nanny, Molly, Thomas and William Bailey, orphs. of James Bailey, dec'd. 24 March I777. For: £500. Sec: Thomas Keith, William Hunton. (Note: Nanny Bailey, orph. of James Bailey, dec'd. chose William White her gdn. White also to be gdn. to Molly, Thomas and William Bailey .. (March Court 1777). NALLS, Wm., Jr., & Mary Bailey, Dec. 11, 1787 - bdsm: Wm. White; date of MR Dec. 13, 1787 NALLS, Wm., Jr., & Mary Bailey, Dec. 11, 1787 - bdsm: Wm. White; date of MR Dec. 13, 1787 JOHN WHITE, gdn. of William White, the natural son of Nancy White. 27 Jan. 1817. For: $200. Sec: Asa Hume BAILEY, James & Elizabeth White, Feb. 28, 1786 - bdsm: d/o Wm. GARRISON, Nelson & Eleanor White, Apr. 1, 1820 - bdsm: d/o William WHITE, William & Elizabeth Waters, Jan. 27, 1817 - bdsm: John White WHITE, William & Harriet Feagans, Mar. 28, 1842 - bdsm: d/o John WHITE, William & Lydia McDonald, Jan. 1, 1799 - bdsm: d/o Jared June -----Original Message----- From: Virginia L. (Ginny) Keefer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:19 pm Subject: Fw: [VAFAUQUI] Guardian Bonds Thank you for posting all these bonds. So many of them bear names that are associated with my William White. I rarely locate any information about Wm. He was listed in 1761 Roster of Troops out of Fauquier Co VA under Capt. Wm. Edmonds. Carr Bailey was in same group.    William White apparently married someone named Mary ___ per a 1970 membership accepted by D.A.R. She was the mother of all of his children. He became guardian of his friend, James Bailey's, children when James died. William White listed as Jr. on his will dated 1797 Haymarket, Prince Wm. Co VA. His second wife was Ann, widow of James Bailey. Fauquier Co Court ordered the Will probated in May of 1804. I assume that is when Ann Bailey White died? I know nothing about James or Ann Bailey. No idea what her maiden name was.  If you come across anything more for my William White, I would love to see it. Thank you for all the fine work you do on- line for us.  Ginny Keefer  [email protected]    ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

FRANCIS, Henry & Margaret R. Gordon, Nov. 23, 1840 - bdsm: wrd/o Nimrod Ashby; MR (JUS) (date of MR --- --, 1840) TURNER, Andrew & Ann Adam, Dec. 7, 1801 - bdsm: Nimrod Ashby ASHBY, Nimrod & Elizabeth Adams, Dec. 29, 1800 - bdsm: d/o Thomas ASHBY, Nimrod & Frances Wright, Nov. 22, 1859 - bdsm: s/o Robert R., (w) Benjamin Ashby ASHBY, Nimrod T. & Adelia J. Smith, Apr. 7, 1838 - bdsm: d/o Charles B.; Minister: Cumberland George 3 September 1760. B & S. Between Bertrand Ewell of Prince William Co., Gent. and Frances, his wife, and Nimrod Ashby of Fauquier Co. .. 5 s. .. parcel near Goose Creek .. in the line of the said Bertrand Ewell, Gent's. land and Corner to the land of Ball 100 acres .. being part of a larger tract granted to Charles Burgess Gent. by Patent .. for 1176 acres .. 17 June 1730 and was conveyed to James & Jesse Ball by Edwin Conway and James Ball, Exors. of Charles Burgess, Gent., dec'd .. 11 April 1740 and then conveyed to Bertrand Ewell by James Ball, Jr. .. 10 March 1753. Signed: Bertrand Ewell. 3 September 1760. B & S. Between Bertrand Ewell of Prince William Co., Gent. and Frances, his wife, and Nimrod Ashby of Fauquier Co. .. 5 s. .. parcel near Goose Creek .. in the line of the said Bertrand Ewell, Gent's. land and Corner to the land of Ball 100 acres .. being part of a larger tract granted to Charles Burgess Gent. by Patent .. for 1176 acres .. 17 June 1730 and was conveyed to James & Jesse Ball by Edwin Conway and James Ball, Exors. of Charles Burgess, Gent., dec'd .. 11 April 1740 and then conveyed to Bertrand Ewell by James Ball, Jr. .. 10 March 1753. Signed: Bertrand Ewell. William Co., Gent. and Frances, his wife, and Nimrod Ashby of Fauquier Co. .. 5 s. .. parcel near Goose Creek .. in the line of the said Bertrand Ewell, Gent's. land and Corner to the land of Ball 100 acres .. being part of a larger tract granted to Charles Burgess Gent. by Patent .. for 1176 acres .. 17 June 1730 and was conveyed to James & Jesse Ball by Edwin Conway and James Ball, Exors. of Charles Burgess, Gent., dec'd .. 11 April 1740 and then conveyed to Bertrand Ewell by James Ball, Jr. .. 10 March 1753. Signed: Bertrand Ewell. .. 5 s. .. parcel near Goose Creek .. in the line of the said Bertrand Ewell, Gent's. land and Corner to the land of Ball 100 acres .. being part of a larger tract granted to Charles Burgess Gent. by Patent .. for 1176 acres .. 17 June 1730 and was conveyed to James & Jesse Ball by Edwin Conway and James Ball, Exors. of Charles Burgess, Gent., dec'd .. 11 April 1740 and then conveyed to Bertrand Ewell by James Ball, Jr. .. 10 March 1753. Signed: Bertrand Ewell. granted to Charles Burgess Gent. by Patent .. for 1176 acres .. 17 June 1730 and was conveyed to James & Jesse Ball by Edwin Conway and James Ball, Exors. of Charles Burgess, Gent., dec'd .. 11 April 1740 and then conveyed to Bertrand Ewell by James Ball, Jr. .. 10 March 1753. Signed: Bertrand Ewell. and was conveyed to James & Jesse Ball by Edwin Conway and James Ball, Exors. of Charles Burgess, Gent., dec'd .. 11 April 1740 and then conveyed to Bertrand Ewell by James Ball, Jr. .. 10 March 1753. Signed: Bertrand Ewell. Exors. of Charles Burgess, Gent., dec'd .. 11 April 1740 and then conveyed to Bertrand Ewell by James Ball, Jr. .. 10 March 1753. Signed: Bertrand Ewell. Wit: Francis Dade, Wm. Seale, John Moffett. Rec: 25 September 1760 with receipt. : Francis Dade, Wm. Seale, John Moffett. Rec: 25 September 1760 with receipt. Bond of John Bell to the King as tax collector. Securities: John Bell to the King as tax collector. Securities: John Ashby, Nimrod Ashby, James Bell and Jeremiah Darnal. Rec: 26 November 1761. , Nimrod Ashby, James Bell and Jeremiah Darnal. Rec: 26 November 1761. June Source: John K. Gott ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

Will of Edward Burgess. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/ChanceryWebQ/viewer/index.asp?casefilenumber=061-1789-018

Thanks for posting these guardian bonds, Here is more on the Ashby bond, in case someone is interested in this line, other than me... ;-) >ROBERT ASHBY, apptd. gdn. to Martin and Thomas Bryan Ashby, orphs. of >Nimrod Ashby, dec'd. 28 June 1764. (Minute Book 1763-1764, p. 312) There were several Nimrod Ashbys but, this particular one is: Nimrod, possibly, the eldest son of Robert Ashby and (whom I believe to be... (Mary?) Elizabeth Farrow/Farrar, dau. of Nimrod Farrow/Farrar) no documentation but, the Farrar Island group has a Mary who married an Ashby. Nimrod born, abt. 1734 Nimrod marr. Frances Wright on 30 Nov. 1756 or 1759. Frances may have been a Bryant, since two of her sons (one by each husband) carried the name Bryant Frances married John O'Bannon/O'Bannion after Nimrod's death. They had: Bryant and Benjamin. There are several records in Fauquier of this couple one of which you posted. >WILLIAM O'BANNON, gdn. of Bryant & Benjamin O'bannon, orphs. of > >John Obannon. 30 March 1774. For: £500. Sec: Martin Pickett. J.P.: Joseph > >Blackwell. Armistead Churchill, James Scott, John Chilton, Gent The date of his death (above) is actually the date of the bond for administration of his estate. Nimrod was killed by Indians, near Jersey Mtn, VA According to the info below, he was captured by Indians on the 4th of June 1764. They were on their way back to, Forman's Fort, (on the S. branch of the Potomac)) and one of the men with him was a Wm or Thos. Forman. This below is from material found in GA and from a lady (Ruth Trim) who was/is proving her relationship to the Thomas Forman, mentioned in the text. 1) Among the charges against Col. Adam Stephen by Thomas Rutherford, Hampshire County Representative in the House of Burgesses, is one stating that "two men were killed by the Indians in the neighborhood of Formans Fort" while Col. Stephen had the Hampshire militia guarding supply wagons in Maryland. This was strictly against orders that required the militia stay within the boundaries of the colony, in this case Virginia. Reading from the Journals of the House of Burgesses one can reconstruct that the militia and Col. Stephen were at Fort Cumberland MD on June 4th, as requested by Col. Bouquet. 2) Kercheval in his 1833 History of the Valley of Virginia states that in the spring of 1764 Nimrod Ashby and WILLIAM Forman were killed on Jersey Mountain while watching a deer lick. There was no William Forman of the correct age to have this occur. Of course these were oral accounts given by old men decades after the event. We believe that the man with Nimrod was our ancestor, THOMAS Forman. Thomas Forman had an older brother named William who was ambushed by the Indians, but this happened many years later, in 1777 and near Wheeling WV. 3) Fauquier County published abstracts show that the Bond for administration of the estate of Nimrod Ashby was filed there June 28th, 1764, which would be the next June court date. The previous court was held about May 26, 1764 and Nimrod Ashby was sworn in as a new Justice. At any rate Nimrod's date of death traditionally appears as before June 29th 1764. No one seems to know exactly when he died, but court records show that Nimrod was alive in late May and dead by late June of 1764. 4) House of Burgesses records show the petition of Robert Ashby in behalf of Nimrod's wife and children in which he states that in 1763 Nimrod was stationed on the frontier with the command of a detachment of militia. He also says in April of 1764 that Nimrod was given pay for his troops, but encountered Indians on the way back to the fort (unnamed) where his troops were stationed and was killed. No mention of anyone being with him, the date of his death, or the name of the fort. We would love to locate some sort of militia list that would show just who his troops were. (My note here: The government tried to collect from the widow, the monies that Nimrod and companions were carrying. They had the payroll for the militia and it was taken when they were killed) Makes me wonder if it was really Indians or someone who knew they had the payroll and just wanted it. > 5) In the spring of 1765 payment for those deposing at the trial of > Col. Stephens was authorized and recorded in the Journals of the HOB. > Those deposing from Hampshire County were the new husband of the widow > Forman, three of her uncles and a neighbor of the Formans. > > 6) Several months ago Bill Rice of Elkins WV, the researcher who in > 1999 located our Thomas Forman estate papers that had been hidden for > 70 years in the basement of the Hampshire County Courthouse, wrote me > that he had run across an item that was abstracted from the Georgia > Gazette. The date of the issue was 19 July 1764, quoting from a > "Letter dated 5 1764 from Fort Cumberland: Colonel Stephens reports > that on the 4th (of June) that Capt. Nimrod Ashby and a man in the > Virginia Volunteers were captured (by Indians) on the South Branch of > the Potomac." > > So here we have the exact date and general location, as Formans Fort > was on the South Branch. We truly believe that Thomas Forman was the > Virginia Volunteer with Nimrod Ashby. We would be most happy to see a > list of those militia men under Capt. Ashby and the name of the fort > at which his men were quartered, if you ever run across it. > > Enough of Nimrod. I feel quite sure that Barbara's Linn or Lynn was > the Indians scout William Linn who was with the group of Hampshire > militia under Capt William Fornan at the Narrows near Wheeling in > 1777. I will try to send her some material in the next few days. If this is in anyway, familiar to any of you or of interest and you can add to this, please do so. My husband is not descended from Nimrod but, I want all of the children of Robert to be complete in their info. Thanks, Sue Ashby

WILLIAMSON BALL, gdn. of John, WmSon [Williamson ?] and Pricilla Webb, orphs. of John Webb, dec'd. 23 Nov. 1778. For: £10,000. Sec: Armistead Churchill. Wit: Willis Green. LABAN SIIP[P], gdn. of Betsey Ship, orph. of John Ship, dec'd. 28 Sept. 1778. For: £1.000. Sec: John Rust. (Note: Betsey Shipp, chose Laban Shipp her gdn. (Sept. Court 1778). RICHARD WIATT SHIP[P], gdn. of Molly and Nancy Shipp, orphs. of John Shipp, dec'd. 28 Sept. 1778. For: £1,000. Wit: Willis Green. (Note: Molly Shipporph. of John Shipp, dec'd. chose Richard Wiatt Shipp her gdn. and he is also apptd. gdn. to Nancy Shipp, orph. of John Shipp, dec'd. (Sept. Court 1778). EDWARD JONES, gdn. of Priscilla Webb, orph. of John Webb, dec'd. 27 Sept. 1779. For: £20,000. Sec: Colin Campbell, Thomas Henderson. Wit: Willis Green. (Note: Williamson Ball, Gent. having relinquished his gdnship of Priscilla Webb, orph. of John Webb, dec'd., Edward Jones, Clerk is apptd. gdn. (Sept. Court 1779) By the consent and agreement of Sarah Bullitt, William Bullitt and John Bullitt in their own persons and of Benoni Bullitt, Parmaneous Bullitt and Burwell Bullitt, Infants under the age of 21 years by the said William Bullitt their Gdn., it is ordered and decreed that the Slaves and personal estate of Benjamin Bullitt, Gent., dec'd late of this County be sold at public sale to the highest bidder by some Person apptd. by the Exors. of the said Benjamin and the money arising from the sale after the debts still due are paid be divided equally among the said Sarah and all the Children after paying out of the Share of Mr. John Bullitt a debt due from him to Cuthbert Bullitt. (August Court, 1779, 25 August) JOHN BARKER, gdn. of Peter Rust, orph. of John Rust, dec'd. 23 August 1779. For: £5,000. Sec: John Moffett. LABAN SHIPP, apptd. gdn. of Molly and Salley Drummond, orphs. of Richard Drummond, dec'd. 28 August 1779. For: £1,000. Sec: James Winn, John Rust. GEORGE DOGGETT, gdn. of Molly, Thomas and Sukey Doggett, orphs. of Benjamin Doggett, dec'd. 24 May 1779. For: £300. Sec: William Settle. Wit: Willis Green. WILLIAM GRANT, chosen gdn. of John Pierce, orph. of Peter Pierce, dec'd. 25 Oct. 1779. For: £5.000. Sec: John Hathaway J.P.: Joseph Blackwell, Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell, Thomas Bronaugh, Gent. REGINALD GRAHAM, apptd. gdn. of Mary Bland Ball and Judith Ball, orphs. of John Ball, dec'd. For: £20,000. 22 May 1780. Sec: Cuthbert Bullitt. JOSEPH SMITH, apptd. gdn. of Elizabeth, Susanna & Ann Smith, orphs. of Augustin Smith, dec'd. 22 May 1780. For: £30,000. Sec: Minor Winn. BENJAMIN JOHNSON, chosen gdn. of Younger Johnson, orph. of George Johnson, dec'd. 22 May 1780. For: £5,000. Sec: Humphrey Arnold, Henry Settle. JOHN.CORDELL, apptd. gdn. of Elizabeth and Ann Price, orphs. of Bennett Price, dec'd. 25 Sept. 1780. For: £100,000. Sec: Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell. MANOAH STONE (his X mark), chosen gdn. of William Feagan, orph. of Edward Feagan, dec'd. 26 Feb. 1781. For: £20,000. Sec: John Barker. WILLIAM PHILLIPS, CHOSEN gdn. of George Fowke, orph. of Gerard Fowke, dec'd. 22 October 1781. For: £500,000. Sec: Wily Roy, William Fowke. J.P.: Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell, Martin Pickett, William Pickett, Gent. CHARLES CHILTON, apptd. gdn. of Orrick, William and Lucy Chilton, orphs. of William Chilton, dec'd. 26 Nov. 1781. For: £200,000. Sec: James Withers, John Barker. J. P.: Joseph Bmackwell, Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell, and Martin Pickett, Gent. William Douglass wrote: "Capt. Charles Chilton having a Desire to be Chosen Gardian for the Orphans of William Chilton, aledging that my wife Being Deed he was the only proper person to be gardian, I therefore agreed that I had no objection to his being Chosen Gardian in my room." 26 Nov. 1781. MARY RECTOR (her R mark) apptd. gdn. of William, Peggy, Catherine, John and Enoch Rector, orphs. of Henry Rector, dec'd. 27 May 1782. For: £5,000. Sec: William Heale, Benjamin Rust. J.P.: Jeremiah Darnall, John Blackwell, Thomas Keith, Thomas Digges, Gent. HEZEKIAH BRADY, gdn. of Charles Bland, orph. of Benjamin Bland, dec'd. 28 Oct. 1782. Sec: James Winn, William Owens. For: £5,000. JAMES SMITH, gdn. of William, Joseph and James Smith, orphs. of Matthew Smith, dec'd. 28 October 1782. For: £2,100. Sec: Tilman Weaver, William Smith REGINALD GRAHAM, apptd. gdn. of Mary Bland Ball and Judith Ball, orphs. of John Ball, dec'd. For: £20,000. 22 May 1780. Sec: Cuthbert Bullitt. JOSEPH SMITH, apptd. gdn. of Elizabeth, Susanna & Ann Smith, orphs. of Augustin Smith, dec'd. 22 May 1780. For: £30,000. Sec: Minor Winn. BENJAMIN JOHNSON, chosen gdn. of Younger Johnson, orph. of George Johnson, dec'd. 22 May 1780. For: £5,000. Sec: Humphrey Arnold, Henry Settle. JOHN.CORDELL, apptd. gdn. of Elizabeth and Ann Price, orphs. of Bennett Price, dec'd. 25 Sept. 1780. For: £100,000. Sec: Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell. MANOAH STONE (his X mark), chosen gdn. of William Feagan, orph. of Edward Feagan, dec'd. 26 Feb. 1781. For: £20,000. Sec: John Barker. WILLIAM PHILLIPS, CHOSEN gdn. of George Fowke, orph. of Gerard Fowke, dec'd. 22 October 1781. For: £500,000. Sec: Wily Roy, William Fowke. J.P.: Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell, Martin Pickett, William Pickett, Gent. CHARLES CHILTON, apptd. gdn. of Orrick, William and Lucy Chilton, orphs. of William Chilton, dec'd. 26 Nov. 1781. For: £200,000. Sec: James Withers, John Barker. J. P.: Joseph Bmackwell, Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell, and Martin Pickett, Gent. William Douglass wrote: "Capt. Charles Chilton having a Desire to be Chosen Gardian for the Orphans of William Chilton, aledging that my wife Being Deed he was the only proper person to be gardian, I therefore agreed that I had no objection to his being Chosen Gardian in my room." 26 Nov. 1781. MARY RECTOR (her R mark) apptd. gdn. of William, Peggy, Catherine, John and Enoch Rector, orphs. of Henry Rector, dec'd. 27 May 1782. For: £5,000. Sec: William Heale, Benjamin Rust. J.P.: Jeremiah Darnall, John Blackwell, Thomas Keith, Thomas Digges, Gent. HEZEKIAH BRADY, gdn. of Charles Bland, orph. of Benjamin Bland, dec'd. 28 Oct. 1782. Sec: James Winn, William Owens. For: £5,000. JAMES SMITH, gdn. of William, Joseph and James Smith, orphs. of Matthew Smith, dec'd. 28 October 1782. For: £2,100. Sec: Tilman Weaver, William Smith J.P.: Joseph Blackwell, Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell, Thomas Bronaugh, Gent. REGINALD GRAHAM, apptd. gdn. of Mary Bland Ball and Judith Ball, orphs. of John Ball, dec'd. For: £20,000. 22 May 1780. Sec: Cuthbert Bullitt. JOSEPH SMITH, apptd. gdn. of Elizabeth, Susanna & Ann Smith, orphs. of Augustin Smith, dec'd. 22 May 1780. For: £30,000. Sec: Minor Winn. BENJAMIN JOHNSON, chosen gdn. of Younger Johnson, orph. of George Johnson, dec'd. 22 May 1780. For: £5,000. Sec: Humphrey Arnold, Henry Settle. JOHN.CORDELL, apptd. gdn. of Elizabeth and Ann Price, orphs. of Bennett Price, dec'd. 25 Sept. 1780. For: £100,000. Sec: Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell. MANOAH STONE (his X mark), chosen gdn. of William Feagan, orph. of Edward Feagan, dec'd. 26 Feb. 1781. For: £20,000. Sec: John Barker. WILLIAM PHILLIPS, CHOSEN gdn. of George Fowke, orph. of Gerard Fowke, dec'd. 22 October 1781. For: £500,000. Sec: Wily Roy, William Fowke. J.P.: Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell, Martin Pickett, William Pickett, Gent. CHARLES CHILTON, apptd. gdn. of Orrick, William and Lucy Chilton, orphs. of William Chilton, dec'd. 26 Nov. 1781. For: £200,000. Sec: James Withers, John Barker. J. P.: Joseph Bmackwell, Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell, and Martin Pickett, Gent. William Douglass wrote: "Capt. Charles Chilton having a Desire to be Chosen Gardian for the Orphans of William Chilton, aledging that my wife Being Deed he was the only proper person to be gardian, I therefore agreed that I had no objection to his being Chosen Gardian in my room." 26 Nov. 1781. MARY RECTOR (her R mark) apptd. gdn. of William, Peggy, Catherine, John and Enoch Rector, orphs. of Henry Rector, dec'd. 27 May 1782. For: £5,000. Sec: William Heale, Benjamin Rust. J.P.: Jeremiah Darnall, John Blackwell, Thomas Keith, Thomas Digges, Gent. HEZEKIAH BRADY, gdn. of Charles Bland, orph. of Benjamin Bland, dec'd. 28 Oct. 1782. Sec: James Winn, William Owens. For: £5,000. JAMES SMITH, gdn. of William, Joseph and James Smith, orphs. of Matthew Smith, dec'd. 28 October 1782. For: £2,100. Sec: Tilman Weaver, William Smith REGINALD GRAHAM, apptd. gdn. of Mary Bland Ball and Judith Ball, orphs. of John Ball, dec'd. For: £20,000. 22 May 1780. Sec: Cuthbert Bullitt. JOSEPH SMITH, apptd. gdn. of Elizabeth, Susanna & Ann Smith, orphs. of Augustin Smith, dec'd. 22 May 1780. For: £30,000. Sec: Minor Winn. BENJAMIN JOHNSON, chosen gdn. of Younger Johnson, orph. of George Johnson, dec'd. 22 May 1780. For: £5,000. Sec: Humphrey Arnold, Henry Settle. JOHN.CORDELL, apptd. gdn. of Elizabeth and Ann Price, orphs. of Bennett Price, dec'd. 25 Sept. 1780. For: £100,000. Sec: Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell. MANOAH STONE (his X mark), chosen gdn. of William Feagan, orph. of Edward Feagan, dec'd. 26 Feb. 1781. For: £20,000. Sec: John Barker. WILLIAM PHILLIPS, CHOSEN gdn. of George Fowke, orph. of Gerard Fowke, dec'd. 22 October 1781. For: £500,000. Sec: Wily Roy, William Fowke. J.P.: Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell, Martin Pickett, William Pickett, Gent. CHARLES CHILTON, apptd. gdn. of Orrick, William and Lucy Chilton, orphs. of William Chilton, dec'd. 26 Nov. 1781. For: £200,000. Sec: James Withers, John Barker. J. P.: Joseph Bmackwell, Armistead Churchill, John Blackwell, and Martin Pickett, Gent. William Douglass wrote: "Capt. Charles Chilton having a Desire to be Chosen Gardian for the Orphans of William Chilton, aledging that my wife Being Deed he was the only proper person to be gardian, I therefore agreed that I had no objection to his being Chosen Gardian in my room." 26 Nov. 1781. MARY RECTOR (her R mark) apptd. gdn. of William, Peggy, Catherine, John and Enoch Rector, orphs. of Henry Rector, dec'd. 27 May 1782. For: £5,000. Sec: William Heale, Benjamin Rust. J.P.: Jeremiah Darnall, John Blackwell, Thomas Keith, Thomas Digges, Gent. HEZEKIAH BRADY, gdn. of Charles Bland, orph. of Benjamin Bland, dec'd. 28 Oct. 1782. Sec: James Winn, William Owens. For: £5,000. JAMES SMITH, gdn. of William, Joseph and James Smith, orphs. of Matthew Smith, dec'd. 28 October 1782. For: £2,100. Sec: Tilman Weaver, William Smith ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

ANDREW O'BANNON (Obanon), gdn. of Ruth, Wilhelmania, and Abner Smith, orphs. of Joseph Smith, dec'd. 24 Nov. 1777. (Note: this bond has the phrase "and in the [blank] year of the Reign of our Soverign Lord King George the Third" scratched through and never appears again in a bond) Sec: Leroy Hughlett, Francis Payne. (Note: Andrew O'Bannon apptd. gdn. to Ruth, Wilhelmia and Abner Smith, orphs. of Joseph Smith, dec'd. (Nov. Court 1777, 24 Nov.) Andrew O'Bannon had married Mary, the widow of Joseph Smith, whose estate was ordered divided at the same Court. EDWARD DIGGES, gdn. of Sarah Digges, orph. of Edwd. Digges, Esq., dec'd. 24 Nov. 1777. For: £3,000. Sec: Armistead Churchill. (Note: Sarah Digges, orph. of Edward Digges, Esq'r., dec'd. chose Edward Digges her gdn. (Nov. Court, 24 Nov. 1777). WILLIAM WHITE (his X Mark) gdn. of Nanny, Molly, Thomas and William Bailey, orphs. of James Bailey, dec'd. 24 March I777. For: £500. Sec: Thomas Keith, William Hunton. (Note: Nanny Bailey, orph. of James Bailey, dec'd. chose William White her gdn. White also to be gdn. to Molly, Thomas and William Bailey .. (March Court 1777). DANIEL FLOWERREE, gdn. of Betty & Thomas Rust, orphs. of John Rust, deb'd. 26 May 1778. For: £1,000. Sec: John Hathaway. J.P.: Joseph Blackwell, William Grant, John Blackwell, Landon Carter, Gent. (Note: D. Flowerree apptd. gdn. of Betty and Thomas Rust, orphs. of John Rust, dec'd. (May Court 1778). SAMUEL RUST, gdn. of Jeremiah Rust, orph. of John Rust, dec'd. 22 June 1778. For: £500. Sec: Stanley Singleton. THOMAS WATTS (his X mark) gdn. of Molly Watts, orph. of Thomas Watts, dec'd. 22 June 1778. For: £500. Sec: William Ball. J.P.: Jno. Blackwell, Wm. Pickett, Thomas Keith, Hezekiah Turner, Gent. (Note: Thomas Watts is apptd. gdn. to Molly Watts, orph. of Thomas Watts, dec'd. George Burnett her former gdn. having resigned his guardianship. (June Court 1778). JOHN HATHAWAY, gdn. of Sally and Nancy Rust, orphs. of John Rust, dec'd. 25 May 1778. For £1,000. Sec: Daniel Flowerree. (Note: John Hathaway apptd. gdn. of Sally and Nancy Rust, orphs. of John Rust, dec'd. (May Court 1778). JOSEPH NELSON, apptd. gdn. of Benjamin Nelson, orph. of James Nelson, dec'd. 25 May 1778. For: £1,000. Sec: Hezekiah Turner. WILLIAM DOUGLASS, gdn. of Susannah and William Chilton, orphs. of William Chilton, dec'd. 28 Dec. 1778. For: £15,000. Sec: Charles Chilton, James Muschett. J.P.: Wm. Edmonds, Wm. Pickett, Aylett Buckner, Thomas Digges. Wit: Willis Green. (Note: William Douglass apptd. gdn. to Orrick, Susannah and William Chilton, orphs. of William Chilton, dec'd. William Douglass had married Sarah, the widow of William Chilton. (Dec. Court 1778). Chilton, James Muschett. J.P.: Wm. Edmonds, Wm. Pickett, Aylett Buckner, Thomas Digges. Wit: Willis Green. (Note: William Douglass apptd. gdn. to Orrick, Susannah and William Chilton, orphs. of William Chilton, dec'd. William Douglass had married Sarah, the widow of William Chilton. (Dec. Court 1778). ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

JOHN (his X mark) WATTS, gdn. of Bennett Watts, orph. of Thomas Watts, dec'd. 24 Nov. 1773. For: £500. Sec: John Keith, James Key, Thos. Williams. THOMAS CONWAY, gdn. of Sally Mauzy, returned account of the gdnship of his ward's estate. 28 March 1774, March Court. WILLIAM O'BANNON, gdn. of Bryant & Benjamin O'bannon, orphs. of John Obannon. 30 March 1774. For: £500. Sec: Martin Pickett. J.P.: Joseph Blackwell. Armistead Churchill, James Scott, John Chilton, Gent. WILLIAM BULLITT, gdn. of George, Benoni, Parmenas and Burwell Bullitt, orphs. of Benjamin Bullitt, dec'd. 28 Nov. 1774. For: £1,000. Sec: William Grigsby. JANE HARRISON, gdn. of Burr, William and Lucy Harrison, orphs. of William Harrison, dec'd.For: £2,000. 27 Febr. 1775. Sec: John Moffett.J.P.: Joseph Blackwell, Thomas Marshall, John Chilton. THOMAS WATTS, gdn. of Bennett Watts, orph. of Thomas Watts, dec'd. 27 Febr. 1775. For: £1,000. Sec: John Moffett. J.P.: Jos. Blackwell, Thomas Marshall, Jeremiah Darnall, John Chilton. Note: Febr. Court I775: Bennett Watts, orph. of Thomas Watts, dec'd chose Thomas Watts, his gdn. JOHN GREEN, JUN'R., gdn. of Betty Green, orph. of Duff Green, dec'd. 27 Febr. 1775. Sec: John Green, Sen'r. Note: Febr. Court 1775: John Green, Jr. apptd. gdn. of Betty Green, orph. of Duff Green, dec'd. in the room of John Green, Sr., who relinquished his gdnship. WILLIAM PRESTON, JR. (his X mark), gdn. of Elizabeth Goff, orph. of Wm. Goff, dec'd. 24 June 1776. For: £200. Sec: Jeremiah Darnall. J.P.: Armistead Churchill, John Moffett, James Bell, Jno. Blackwell. Note: Elizabeth Goff, orph. of William Goff, dec'd. chose William Preston, Jr., her gdn. (June Court 1776) WILLIAM KENTON, gdn. of Joshua Owens, orph. of Jeremiah Owens, dec'd. 27 May 1776. For: £200. Sec: James Winn, Murthy Mcaboy. Note: Joshua Owens chose William Kenton, his gdn. (May Court 1776) CHARLES BRUCE, gdn. of George and Thomas James, orphs. of Thomas James, dec'd. 25 March 1776. For: £2,000. Sec: John James, French Strother. HUGH WALKER & JOSEPH GAYLE, made motion, gdns. in Souage to the orphs. of John and Josiah Morgan, dec'd. Ordered that William Edmonds, James Bell, Charles Bell & Charles Morehead, do divide the lands devised by William Morgan, dec'd. to the said John and Josiah Morgan, according to his will. (April Court 1776, 23 April). ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

JOHN GREEN, gdn. of John & Elizabeth Green, orphs. of Duff Green, Gent., dec'd. 28 Jan. 1771. For: £5,000. Sec: John Blackwell. ANN GREEN, gdn. of Willis, Henry, William, Elenor, Duff Green, orphs. of Duff Green, Gent., dec'd. 28 Jan. 1771. For: £5,000. Sec: John Green, John Lee, Jun'r. JOHN HATHAWAY, gdn. of James Read, orph. of Nicholas Read, dec'd. 26 March 1771. For: £1,000. Sec: William Jones (his W mark). J.P.: William Grant, James Scott, Joseph Hudnall, George Boswell. GEORGE GRUBBS, gdn. of Dudley Matthews, orph. of Robt. Matthews, dec'd. 25 April 1771. For: £500. Sec: Richard (his R mark) Grubbs. J.P.: Thomas Harrison, Joseph Blackwell, Jeremiah Darnall, Charles Chinn. Wit: M. Underwood. JOHN WRIGHT, JUN'R., gdn. of Honor Wheatley, orph. of Geo. Wheatley, dec'd. 28 May 1771. For: £500. Sec: Peter Hord. MURTIE McABOY (signed: Murthy Mucoboy), gdn. of Mildred Bland, orph. of Benjamin Bland, dec'd. 29 Oct. 1771. For: £500. Sec: Joseph Duncan, Jun'r., William Nalls, Thomas (his X mark) Mcaboy. JANE SMITH, and JOHN SNELLING, gdns. of Mary Smith, orph. of Alexander Smith, dec'd. 24 August 1772. For: £1OO. WILLIAM PINKARD, gdn. of Thomas & Daniel Marr, orphs. of John Marr, dec'd. 25 Nov. 1772. For: £500. Sec: Martin Pickett. FRANCIS ATWELL (signed: Attwell), gdn. of Helen McDonald, orph. of Daniel McDonald, dec'd. 27 April 1772. For: £1,000. Sec: Zacharias Lewis. JOHN OWENS, gdn. of Samuel Owens, orph. of Joshua Owens, dec'd. 25 October 1773. For: £5,000. Sec: William Berry. JOHN MOFFFET, gdn. of James and Richard Mottrom Ball, orphs. of William Ball, Gent., dec'd. 25 May 1773. For: £2,000. Sec: Cuthbert Bullitt. ABEL MORGAN, gdn. of Randle Morgan, orph. of Randle Morgan, dec'd. 26 July 1773. For: £100. Sec: Enoch Morgan. ORIGINAL YOUNG, gdn. of Margaret, Mary and Eliza Mauzy, orphs. of John Mauzy, dec'd. 25 August 1773. For: £2,000. Sec: Henry Mauzy and Benjamin Pope. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

1759 -1818 MARY FOOTE, gdn. of Richard and William Foote, orphs. of George Foote, dec'd. 24 April 1760. For:£3,000. Sec: William Blackwell and Wm. Eustace. J.P.:John Wright, John Bell, Wm. Grant, Yelverton Peyton. JOHN CATLETT, gdn. of William Coppage, orph. of John Coppage, dec'd. 23 Oct. 1760. For: £1,000. Sec: Thomas Conway, Edward (his E mark) Lawrence. J.P.: John Bell, William Eustace, John Churchill, John Crump. WILLIAM HANSBROUGH, gdn. of Peggy Ann Watts, orph. of Thomas Watts, dec'd. 28 May 1761. For: £1,000. Sec: George Bennett, James Nelson. J.P.: Joseph Blackwell, Armistead Churchill, John Moffett, Martin Pickett. THOMAS BATTONY (signed: Thos. (+) Betony), gdn. of Wm. Reding, orph. of Timothy Redding [sic]. 26 August 1762. For: 2£200. Sec: Thomas Marshall. J.P.: Thomas Harrison, Joseph Blackwell, Duff Green, Jer'a. Darnal. Note: Minute Book 1759-63, p. 318: William Redding, orph. of Timothy Redding, dec'd. came into Court and made choice of Thomas Battony to be his gdn. THOMAS CHINN, gdn. of Agatha Chinn, orph. of Chichester Chinn, dec'd. 27 May 1762. For: £1,000. Sec: Elias Edmonds, Cuthbert Bullitt. Note: Minute Book 1759-63, p. 245: Agatha Chinn came into Court and chose Thomas Chinn for her gdn. JACOB HITE, gdn. of Aaron Johnston and Frances Johnston, children of Margaret Johnston. 25 Febr. 1762. For: £500. Sec: John Bell. J.P.: William Grant, Thomas Marshall, Thomas M'Clanaham, George Lamkin, Gent. Justices. Note: see will of Bryan O'Bannon, prov. 25 Feb. 1762, W.B. 1, pp. 41-43. JOSEPH ODOR, gdn. of Joseph Wheatley, orph. of George Wheatley, dec'd. 28 Oct. 1762. For: £300. Sec: John Duncan, Jun'r. THOMAS LEACHMAN, chosen gdn. of John Wyatt, orph. of William Wyatt, dec'd. 28 April 1763. (Minute Book 1763-1764, p. 33) MARY LEE, apptd. gdn. to Henry, Richard and Mary Lee, orphs. of Hancock Lee, dec'd. and William and Sarah Lee, other orphs. of the said Hancock Lee being of Lawful age for that purpose, chose the said Mary Lee for their gdn. who executed and ack. Bond according to law. (M. B. 1763- 1764, p. 221, 24 November 1763.) ROBERT ASHBY, apptd. gdn. to Martin and Thomas Bryan Ashby, orphs. of Nimrod Ashby, dec'd. 28 June 1764. (Minute Book 1763-1764, p. 312). GILSON FOOTE, gdn. of Richard & William Foote, orphs. of George Foote, dec'd. 26 May 1766. For: £1,000. J.P.: Thomas Harrison, John Bell, Jeremiah Darnall, Joseph Hudnall. JANE SMITH (her X mark), gdn. of Hannah Smith. orph. of Alexander Smith, dec'd. 29 July 1766. For: £100. Sec: John Snelling. J.P.: John Bell, Yelverton Peyton, Jeremiah Darnall, Joseph Hudnall. HARMAN SPILMAN (his H mark), gdn. of Jane Smith, orph. of Alexander Smith, dec'd. 28 Oct. 1766. Sec: Thomas Marshall. THOMAS BULLITT, gdn. of William, Elizabeth, John, Benoni, Parmenous and Burwell Bullitt, orphs. of Benjamin Bullitt, dec'd. 28 July 1767. For: £1.000. Sec: Joseph Blackwell, Martin Pickett. J.P.: Thomas Harrison, John Bell, William Eustace, William Grant, William Edmonds. THOMAS HARRISON, Gent., gdn. of Elizabeth Bullitt, orph. of Benjamin Bullitt, dec'd. 23 Nov. 1767. For: £500. Sec: Henry Peyton, Gent. CUTHBERT BULLITT, gdn. of William, Elizabeth, John, George, Benoni, Parmanous & Burwell Bullitt, orphs. of Benjamin Bullitt, dec'd. 23 June 1767. For: £500. Sec: William Ellzey, William Grayson, Humphrey Brooke. J.P.: Joseph Blackwell, William Eustace, Thomas Marshall, Jeremiah Darnall, John Moffett. ROBERT CLEVELAND, gdn. of Chichester Matthis, orph. of Robert Matthis, dec'd. 26 March 1770. For: £500. JOHN HALL, gdn. of Robert Matthews. orph. of Robt. Matthews, dec'd. 22 Oct. 1770. For: £200. Sec: Leroy Hulett (signed: Hughlett), Thomas Foster, George Grubbs. J.P.: Armistead Churchill, Will. Edmonds, John Moffett, Charles Chinn. THOMAS FOSTER, gdn. of Chichester Matthews, orph. of Robert Matthews, dec'd. 22 Oct. 1770. For: £200. Sec: John Hall, George Grubbs, Joseph Minter, Jun'r. GEORGE BENNENT, gdn. of Bennett Watts, Mason Watts, Mary Watts, orphs. of Thomas Watts, dec'd. 23 April 1770. For: £1,000. Sec: Thomas Marshall, John Moffett. J.P.: Joseph Blackwell, William Edmonds, John Chilton said Hancock Lee being of Lawful age for that purpose, chose the said Mary Lee for their gdn. who executed and ack. Bond according to law. (M. B. 1763- 1764, p. 221, 24 November 1763.) ROBERT ASHBY, apptd. gdn. to Martin and Thomas Bryan Ashby, orphs. of Nimrod Ashby, dec'd. 28 June 1764. (Minute Book 1763-1764, p. 312). GILSON FOOTE, gdn. of Richard & William Foote, orphs. of George Foote, dec'd. 26 May 1766. For: £1,000. J.P.: Thomas Harrison, John Bell, Jeremiah Darnall, Joseph Hudnall. JANE SMITH (her X mark), gdn. of Hannah Smith. orph. of Alexander Smith, dec'd. 29 July 1766. For: £100. Sec: John Snelling. J.P.: John Bell, Yelverton Peyton, Jeremiah Darnall, Joseph Hudnall. HARMAN SPILMAN (his H mark), gdn. of Jane Smith, orph. of Alexander Smith, dec'd. 28 Oct. 1766. Sec: Thomas Marshall. THOMAS BULLITT, gdn. of William, Elizabeth, John, Benoni, Parmenous and Burwell Bullitt, orphs. of Benjamin Bullitt, dec'd. 28 July 1767. For: £1.000. Sec: Joseph Blackwell, Martin Pickett. J.P.: Thomas Harrison, John Bell, William Eustace, William Grant, William Edmonds. THOMAS HARRISON, Gent., gdn. of Elizabeth Bullitt, orph. of Benjamin Bullitt, dec'd. 23 Nov. 1767. For: £500. Sec: Henry Peyton, Gent. CUTHBERT BULLITT, gdn. of William, Elizabeth, John, George, Benoni, Parmanous & Burwell Bullitt, orphs. of Benjamin Bullitt, dec'd. 23 June 1767. For: £500. Sec: William Ellzey, William Grayson, Humphrey Brooke. J.P.: Joseph Blackwell, William Eustace, Thomas Marshall, Jeremiah Darnall, John Moffett. ROBERT CLEVELAND, gdn. of Chichester Matthis, orph. of Robert Matthis, dec'd. 26 March 1770. For: £500. JOHN HALL, gdn. of Robert Matthews. orph. of Robt. Matthews, dec'd. 22 Oct. 1770. For: £200. Sec: Leroy Hulett (signed: Hughlett), Thomas Foster, George Grubbs. J.P.: Armistead Churchill, Will. Edmonds, John Moffett, Charles Chinn. THOMAS FOSTER, gdn. of Chichester Matthews, orph. of Robert Matthews, dec'd. 22 Oct. 1770. For: £200. Sec: John Hall, George Grubbs, Joseph Minter, Jun'r. GEORGE BENNENT, gdn. of Bennett Watts, Mason Watts, Mary Watts, orphs. of Thomas Watts, dec'd. 23 April 1770. For: £1,000. Sec: Thomas Marshall, John Moffett. J.P.: Joseph Blackwell, William Edmonds, John Chilton ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

Nelda: I was excited to visit your website and see numerous Gordon's in your family tree. I was hoping that Elmer Gordon who had 8 sons would connect but they do not. Keep up the good work. Happy Holidays! Estelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelda Percival" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Fw: Free African Americans/To Nelda > > Ginny, > Wow, sorry if I offended you. Who said they lied.. all I said was that > some Native Americans were also listed as Free Persons of Color. If you > look at records and the person is listed as a free person of color and you > happen to know from researching that the family was really Native > American.. But researchers just looking at records wouldn't know if the > person listed was actually African American or Native American, so knowing > that they were listed that way would be needed information too. > > You can also find surnames in the early records recording the Native > Americans. (The Lost Colony and Jamestown have some of the earliest > records available.) These families were also in VA, NC, SC, GA. > > Merry Christmas > LOL.. who isn't relaxed.... > Nelda > Nelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA > Project websites - > http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > ~~ LCG&DNARG: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much > better when paired up properly..." Peter > From: [email protected]> To: > [email protected]> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:56:09 -0800> Subject: Re: > [VAFAUQUI] Fw: Free African Americans/To Nelda> > Nelda; Doesn't matter to > me what nationality they actually were.> I was searching for surnames that > were in Virginia at a very early date.> Those interested in a particular > surname can locate birth places of those of > interest on their own.> > Notice the title of the article I submitted stated they were " Free > African > Americans". Why would they post that if a lie??????????????> I > did not write that article.> Relax and enjoy the holidays. Ginny> > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Genny, Why the "I did not realize there were any mistakes. I just forwarded the site as I > found it." Who said there was errors?? You did a good thing! you sent a website where additional information can be found.. That is excellent! THank you.. keep up the good work.. My comments were just additional information and not correcting yours...That was why I still do not understand your being so hipper about my addition.. Yes, sometimes freed slaves took on the ex-owners surname, also not all freed slaves wanted thier owners surnames.. but not "all" Free people of Color were ever Slaves! They had it hard as they had to prove they were not runaway slaves pretending to be free people of color... No historical time period or events have absolutes.. things vary.. so did the reasons behind things.. I'm sorry you took anything I wrote as personal to yourself.. Never! Communication is a way of learning...sometimes we learn new things sometimes we don't.. but never a waste of time. Merry Christmas Nelda Nelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:21:49 -0800> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Fw: Free African Americans/very early listings> > I did not realize there were any mistakes. I just forwarded the site as I > found it.> I saw many whom I knew were White but as I read it, it did not say they were > black. It implied they were the plantation owners, like Howson Hooe, > instructing or using them as slaves.> > I am truly SORRY I tried to share the info. I thought that most blacks > surnames came from their plantation owners, whether now free or not.> > Therefore if there were blacks in an area there must have been white's of > same names.> I have received more complaints about foolishness instead of anyone actually > reading it to see it their surname was among them.> Oh well, learned a lesson. Ginny> [email protected] > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Some errors were made out of it being a real mistake, but some listings were on purpose as in listing Native Americans as Free People of Color. Thier status wasn't considered any better then the free people's of color status. in some census Slaves were recorded as can't remember, but it was either 1/2 or 3/4s of a person. This type of knowledge is needed when studing /researching in the early records of the Eastern States, such as VA. The more knowledge a person has, the better you are at understanding what your relatives went through in thier lives... [email protected], not to start an up roar... but are you sure they were white? have you had thier descendants DNA tested? You would be (can be ) suprised at what results can be found.. no not those tests that estimate your percentage of this or that... I mean a real test of your Haplogroup to find out what it is, Certain haplogroups are found mainly in Native Americans and others are different for African Americans. Soooooo.... we all have those questions.. LOL no don't say you know for sure because my family is English or what ever... The Romans brought soldiers of a Morish ancestry, African ancestry, German ancestry, and others to England. But additionally Native American haplogroups have been found in England...Believed to be descendants of NA taken to England in the 1500 - 1600s. A lot of the early records are still in England.. from 1587 The Lost Colony .. Roanoke Island, NC to the Rev War time period. There are also the Spanish records for areas controled by Spain...Florida, lower Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama areas, French for Louisiana... We have to know some history to know who controled what... Nelda Nelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:34:48 -0600> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Fw: Free African Americans/To Nelda> > I have white relatives who I know where white and the listed them as colored > in the marriage register. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have white relatives who I know where white and the listed them as colored in the marriage register.

Ginny, Wow, sorry if I offended you. Who said they lied.. all I said was that some Native Americans were also listed as Free Persons of Color. If you look at records and the person is listed as a free person of color and you happen to know from researching that the family was really Native American.. But researchers just looking at records wouldn't know if the person listed was actually African American or Native American, so knowing that they were listed that way would be needed information too. You can also find surnames in the early records recording the Native Americans. (The Lost Colony and Jamestown have some of the earliest records available.) These families were also in VA, NC, SC, GA. Merry Christmas LOL.. who isn't relaxed.... Nelda Nelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:56:09 -0800> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Fw: Free African Americans/To Nelda> > Nelda; Doesn't matter to me what nationality they actually were.> I was searching for surnames that were in Virginia at a very early date.> Those interested in a particular surname can locate birth places of those of > interest on their own.> Notice the title of the article I submitted stated they were " Free African > Americans". Why would they post that if a lie??????????????> I did not write that article.> Relax and enjoy the holidays. Ginny> [email protected] > > -------------------------------