Hello Elizabeth, I would love to have any and all information concerning the Holders. I suspect that my 4th Great Grandfather was in the Johnston Co., NC area in the 1750-1770 time period which is next door to Harnette, so any tidbit could be helpful. If you wish to email me privately please do, [email protected] Shirley Holder Antrim ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Surname Holder > Shirley, I have some information on the Harnette County North Carolina > Holders. I will share with you if this is part of the Holders that you > are working on. > > Elizabeth Withers > -------------- Original message from "Shirley Antrim" > <[email protected]>: -------------- > > >> I would like to correspond with anyone by the name of Holder, or who is >> interested in researching the name Holder/Holden/ Houlder/and other >> spellings. >> >> Shirley Holder Antrim >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Robert - We have corresponded before and it appears you are having better luck than am I. I strongly suspect your John Carr was a brother to my Samuel Carr, b 1803, and son of George Carr who was b in 1746 New Jersey to Walter Carr. George accompanied by Samuel Carr traveled from the Franklin Co., TN area to Illinois in the 1810-1820 time period and spent a bit of time with a brother of George's, James Carr, before moving on to Franklin Co., MO then Morgan Co., MO (where George died in 1835/36). Samuel took his family ( married a daughter, Mary, of Augustin Sims in Illinois) to Lawrence Co., MO and finally settled in Dade Co., MO about 1845. This Carr family seem to have all been Indian fighters and wanderers. My connection to Fauquier is a perfect match on DNA with two ladies who have a proven paper trail to LUKE HOLDER b abt 1725. Luke was the Father of Capt/Col John Holder who was known for his assistance to Daniel Boone in the beginning of Fort Boonesboro, KY and as an Indian Fighter. However, my paper trail does not go to Luke but must belong with a brother of Luke. We have several names of Holders in the Fauquier/Loudon counties born in the 1710-1720 time period who we think are brothers, but can't seem to connect together for lack of their Father's name. They are DAVIS HOLDER, JOSEPH HOLDER AND WILLIAM HOLDER. Known descendants of William and I share a close DNA connection, but my 3rd G Grandfather, Solomon Holder, b 1769 does not appear to be a son of William. We don't have a DNA sample from the Davis group, but they have their family documented and Solomon doesn't seem to belong to them either. Therefore I'm pointing at Joseph. I know he didn't stay long in Fauquier, (married a daughter of James Cox in Orange Co., VA about 1735according to the Cox Will), then migrated on to Johnston Co., NC and Surry Co., NC. I'm hoping someone in Fauquier/Loudon/Prince William can help with the beginnings of this family. Keep me posted on your findings about your Carrs. I'm sure we can count each other a cousin. Shirley Holder Antrim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Schneider" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:06 AM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Holder surname > Hi Shirley! > > I believe we've corresponded before. The potential > connection with the Holder family is my Carr family > and the Keith family. I have continued bumping into > Holders as I've worked through Alabama, Georgia, Stone > County, MO and now Carroll County, AR. It turns out > that my 4th gr grandfather John Carr served in the > Florida War and Cherokee Removal. He received a land > bounty for that service ad took the bounty in Carroll > County. He sold the bounty to someone named Daniel S. > Hayter in late 1857. > > What is your connection with Fauquier? If there were > Holders in Fauquier, maybe some of my Carr line might > have been there, too. If I'm not mistaken, some of > the Holders served in the southern Indian Wars with > the Carrs and Keiths, all from Jackson County, AL. > > I have a Constable family and a Harper family with > Fauquier connections. William Constable appears to > have originated in Maryland and moved to Fauquier. I > still don't know the origin of the Harpers. My > earliest record is of a marriage between Isaac Harper > and Jemima Constable. > > Robert Schneider > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:05:22 -0600 >> From: "Shirley Antrim" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Surname Holder >> To: "Fauquier County Virginia" >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I would like to correspond with anyone by the name >> of Holder, or who is interested in researching the >> name Holder/Holden/ Houlder/and other spellings. >> >> Shirley Holder Antrim >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Shirley! I believe we've corresponded before. The potential connection with the Holder family is my Carr family and the Keith family. I have continued bumping into Holders as I've worked through Alabama, Georgia, Stone County, MO and now Carroll County, AR. It turns out that my 4th gr grandfather John Carr served in the Florida War and Cherokee Removal. He received a land bounty for that service ad took the bounty in Carroll County. He sold the bounty to someone named Daniel S. Hayter in late 1857. What is your connection with Fauquier? If there were Holders in Fauquier, maybe some of my Carr line might have been there, too. If I'm not mistaken, some of the Holders served in the southern Indian Wars with the Carrs and Keiths, all from Jackson County, AL. I have a Constable family and a Harper family with Fauquier connections. William Constable appears to have originated in Maryland and moved to Fauquier. I still don't know the origin of the Harpers. My earliest record is of a marriage between Isaac Harper and Jemima Constable. Robert Schneider > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:05:22 -0600 > From: "Shirley Antrim" <[email protected]> > Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Surname Holder > To: "Fauquier County Virginia" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I would like to correspond with anyone by the name > of Holder, or who is interested in researching the > name Holder/Holden/ Houlder/and other spellings. > > Shirley Holder Antrim >

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I would like to correspond with anyone by the name of Holder, or who is interested in researching the name Holder/Holden/ Houlder/and other spellings. Shirley Holder Antrim

Recently, I've been poking around with associated names in the Jackson Purchase area of Kentucky. All those names are repeated down there in Calloway & Marshall Co, KY. They have different given names than reported here recently. Along with Bussey, Hurt & Smith, there are Utterback and many others. Its a small world, I suppose. Shirley > > Our records do show a Cornelius BUSSEY, born 18 Jun 1745 St. Paul's > Parish, > Stafford, VA, that is next door to Fauquier Co....but am not sure how > that > might fit in. > > Thank you. > > Paul > Ann Arbor, Michigan ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, snipped ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

On the 1850 Madison Co, VA census Page 98 Household 635 Joel Hurt? 71 Moses? 18 Albert W.? 14 Cynatha M. not sure of the M.? 14 Thomas 12 Fauquier County Marriage Bond: [source: by John K. Gott] HUNT, Opomus & Sarah Ann Bussey, Apr. 8, 1837 - bdsm: d/o Henry; MR (GOV) (groom Ossomus Hurt, bride Sarah Frances Bussey) The marriage bond had his name spelt Opomus Hunt. The return was Ossomus Hurt. ? ? -----? Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To:? <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:49? PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] BUSSEY, HURT, SMITH in Fauquier Co.,? VA > Ossumus HURT (son of Joel and Nancy [SMITH] HURT), my 2nd? g-grandfather, was > married 8 Apr 1837 in Fauquier Co., VA to? Sarah Frances BUSSEY. > > Would like to corroborate Ossumus' birth? place (believe was 15 Nov? 1812). > Also, would like to find? supporting evidence of his and/or his? family owning many? slaves. > > Thank you. > > Paul Haynes > Ann? Arbor,? Michigan > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.????? (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message HUNT, Opomus & Sarah Ann Bussey, Apr. 8, 1837 - bdsm: d/o Henry; MR (GOV) (groom Ossomus Hurt, bride Sarah Frances Bussey) The marriage bond had his name spelt Opomus Hunt. The return was Ossomus Hurt. ? ? -----? Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To:? <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:49? PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] BUSSEY, HURT, SMITH in Fauquier Co.,? VA > Ossumus HURT (son of Joel and Nancy [SMITH] HURT), my 2nd? g-grandfather, was > married 8 Apr 1837 in Fauquier Co., VA to? Sarah Frances BUSSEY. > > Would like to corroborate Ossumus' birth? place (believe was 15 Nov? 1812). > Also, would like to find? supporting evidence of his and/or his? family owning many? slaves. > > Thank you. > > Paul Haynes > Ann? Arbor,? Michigan > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.????? (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

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We do not have any KENDALL/KINDLE folks in our 8,000 name index. Paul In a message dated 2/24/2008 3:54:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Shouldn't there be some Kendall/Kindles on this index? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tosca" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] BUSSEY, HURT, SMITH in Fauquier Co., VA > Do you happen to know where he lived in 1840? He does not appear on the > census index for Fauquier in 1840 that is online at > http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/va/fauquier/1840/index.txt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:49 PM > Subject: [VAFAUQUI] BUSSEY, HURT, SMITH in Fauquier Co., VA > > >> Ossumus HURT (son of Joel and Nancy [SMITH] HURT), my 2nd g-grandfather, >> was >> married 8 Apr 1837 in Fauquier Co., VA to Sarah Frances BUSSEY. >> >> Would like to corroborate Ossumus' birth place (believe was 15 Nov >> 1812). >> Also, would like to find supporting evidence of his and/or his family >> owning >> many slaves. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Paul Haynes >> Ann Arbor, Michigan **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Our records do show a Cornelius BUSSEY, born 18 Jun 1745 St. Paul's Parish, Stafford, VA, that is next door to Fauquier Co....but am not sure how that might fit in. Thank you. Paul Ann Arbor, Michigan In a message dated 2/24/2008 3:19:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: There is a Cornelius Busey that has some young men and women on the1840 Fauquier census...but no male in the 25 year range, oldest is 10-15...and Cornelius is probably the 50-60 year old. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] BUSSEY, HURT, SMITH in Fauquier Co., VA > Ossumus HURT (son of Joel and Nancy [SMITH] HURT), my 2nd g-grandfather, > was > married 8 Apr 1837 in Fauquier Co., VA to Sarah Frances BUSSEY. > > Would like to corroborate Ossumus' birth place (believe was 15 Nov 1812). > Also, would like to find supporting evidence of his and/or his family > owning > many slaves. > > Thank you. > > Paul Haynes > Ann Arbor, Michigan > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Unfortunately, I do not have a clue... :-( He (Ossumus) died 1888 in Marshall, Saline, MO. He and his siblings were reportedly all born in Culpeper and/or Madison Co., VA. Thanks for looking, and for the kindness of your reply. Paul Ann Arbor, Michigan In a message dated 2/24/2008 3:07:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Do you happen to know where he lived in 1840? He does not appear on the census index for Fauquier in 1840 that is online at _http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/va/fauquier/1840/index.txt_ (http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/va/fauquier/1840/index.txt) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] BUSSEY, HURT, SMITH in Fauquier Co., VA > Ossumus HURT (son of Joel and Nancy [SMITH] HURT), my 2nd g-grandfather, was > married 8 Apr 1837 in Fauquier Co., VA to Sarah Frances BUSSEY. > > Would like to corroborate Ossumus' birth place (believe was 15 Nov 1812). > Also, would like to find supporting evidence of his and/or his family owning many slaves. > > Thank you. > > Paul Haynes > Ann Arbor, Michigan > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Shouldn't there be some Kendall/Kindles on this index? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tosca" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] BUSSEY, HURT, SMITH in Fauquier Co., VA > Do you happen to know where he lived in 1840? He does not appear on the > census index for Fauquier in 1840 that is online at > http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/va/fauquier/1840/index.txt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:49 PM > Subject: [VAFAUQUI] BUSSEY, HURT, SMITH in Fauquier Co., VA > > >> Ossumus HURT (son of Joel and Nancy [SMITH] HURT), my 2nd g-grandfather, >> was >> married 8 Apr 1837 in Fauquier Co., VA to Sarah Frances BUSSEY. >> >> Would like to corroborate Ossumus' birth place (believe was 15 Nov >> 1812). >> Also, would like to find supporting evidence of his and/or his family >> owning >> many slaves. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Paul Haynes >> Ann Arbor, Michigan >> >> >> >> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. >> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ >> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.0/1296 - Release Date: 2/24/2008 > 12:19 PM > >

There is a Cornelius Busey that has some young men and women on the1840 Fauquier census...but no male in the 25 year range, oldest is 10-15...and Cornelius is probably the 50-60 year old. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] BUSSEY, HURT, SMITH in Fauquier Co., VA > Ossumus HURT (son of Joel and Nancy [SMITH] HURT), my 2nd g-grandfather, > was > married 8 Apr 1837 in Fauquier Co., VA to Sarah Frances BUSSEY. > > Would like to corroborate Ossumus' birth place (believe was 15 Nov 1812). > Also, would like to find supporting evidence of his and/or his family > owning > many slaves. > > Thank you. > > Paul Haynes > Ann Arbor, Michigan > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Do you happen to know where he lived in 1840? He does not appear on the census index for Fauquier in 1840 that is online at http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/va/fauquier/1840/index.txt ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: [VAFAUQUI] BUSSEY, HURT, SMITH in Fauquier Co., VA > Ossumus HURT (son of Joel and Nancy [SMITH] HURT), my 2nd g-grandfather, > was > married 8 Apr 1837 in Fauquier Co., VA to Sarah Frances BUSSEY. > > Would like to corroborate Ossumus' birth place (believe was 15 Nov 1812). > Also, would like to find supporting evidence of his and/or his family > owning > many slaves. > > Thank you. > > Paul Haynes > Ann Arbor, Michigan > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Margo, I appreciate your posting this. Allens are so elusive! This appears to be a Deed of Gift, rather than a Will. Perhaps you can cite what Deed book in Fauquier it is from, with a page number? Also, please, who is the father and mother of this James Allen? I have 4 in my database without parents, and one who might fit who doesn't have these children. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Allen, Stigler, Chandler, Tulloss > Here's a will that mentions the family of Ann Field Allen. > Margaret Schmidt > Chicago > > > To all whom these presents shall come I James Allen senior do send > greeting. > Know ye that I the said James Allen of the County of Fauquier and State > of > Virginia for and in consideration of the love good will and affection > which I > have and do bear towards my loving children, to wit John Field Allen, > Sarah > Kirk Pendleton, Ursla Withers Allen, Ann Field Allen and Betsey Allen all > of > the same county have given and granted and by these presents do freely > give > and grant unto these my said children John Field Allen, Sarah Kirk > Pendelton, > Ursla Withers Allen, All Field Allen and Betsey Allen, their heirs > executors > or administrators the following property to be equally divided among the > above > mentioned children, to wit, Slaves a negroe man by name of Peter, thrde > negroe by name Lucy and Else and Bet one girl named Mary and four negroe > children, Charles, Willis, Delila and Agnes with all the increase of said > Slaves. In > short all the stock of horses, cattle, hogs the household and kitchen > furniture plantation utensils and all moneys due me. The said James Allen > which > property I have delivered them before the beginning of these presents to > Have and > to Hold the said property to these my Children, John Field Allen, Sarah > Kirk > Pendletom, Ursla Withers Allen, All Field Allen, and Betsey Allen, their > heirs Executors and administrators from hence forth, as their own > property, > without any manner of condition. > In witness whereof, I have hereunto put my hands and Seal this 17th July > one > thousand eight hundred and two. > Signed Sealed and delivered > In the presence of > Nathaniel Hoomer > Bechwith Siphon > George his mark Ellis > James Allen > At a court held for Fauquier County the 26th day of July 1802 this Deed > of > Gift was proved to be the act and deed of the said James Allen by the > oaths of > Nathaniel Hoomer and George Ellis witnesses thereto and ordered to be > recorded. > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fauquier Co Guardian Bond [source: JOhn K Gott] JAMES STIGLER, gdn. of Nancy Pendleton, orph. of George Pendleton, dec'd. 23 October 1820, For $50. Sec: Peter Wiggenton. J.P.: William Skinker, Chandler Peyton, James Pickett, Alexander D. Kelly. Wit: Thos. C. Kelly, D.F.C. JOHN F. ALLEN, gdn. of Frances Stigler when she shall arrive at Lawful age or marry, orph. of James Stigler, dec'd. 27 Jan. 1817. For: $1,500. Sec: John Embrey, Jr. Fauquier Co Marriage Bond: STIGLER, John & Ann F. Allen, Dec. 20, 1809 - bdsm: John Allen ALLEN, John & Ellender Stigler, Sep. 10, 1811 - bdsm: d/o James [This is John F. Allen s/o of James Allen?and Ellender d/o James Stigler] June -----Original Message----- From: Amanda E. Douglass <[email protected]> To: Fauquier Board <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 3:26 pm Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Will of JAMES ALLEN provided by Margaret Schmidt of Chicago Dear Margo, Here's why your post is of such great interest at least to me. My 5x great grandfather was Alexander McConchie of Fauquier County, Va. The earliest mention I think I have found of him was concerning the inventory of Capt. Robert Knox of Maryland in which he was named along with Lott Hackley and JAMES ALLEN. Have been searching to identify who that JAMES ALLEN could have been? Lott Hackley I know and his sister in law, Mildred (Reeds) Brown married James Stigler. They had son James Stigler who married Ann Field Allen. But I've not been able to find out who the JAMES ALLEN was who accompanied Lott Hackley and Alex. McConchie to do inventory. Here is the record that really ties in with the Will of of James Allen that you were so kind to share. JAMES STIGLER, gdn. of Nancy Pendleton, orph. of George Pendleton, dec'd. 23 October 1820, For $50. Sec: Peter Wiggenton. J.P.: William Skinker, Chandler Peyton, James Pickett, Alexander D. Kelly. Wit: Thos. C. Kelly, D.F.C. [Note: George Pendleton was married May 27, 1801... Below record has George Pendleton m. FNU Allen, sister of Ann F. Allen & Elizabeth Allen. Sally Allen married George Pendleton and she is named "SALLY KIRK PENDLTON" in Will of James Allen. We believe that the William Jones, Jr. below to be the son of William Jones m. Diadema HOLMES. Diadema Holmes had brother Nathaniel S. Holmes. (Spelling HOOMES, etc.) For those of you that have been trying to solve who the Charles Jones was that married Ann Childs, the witness GEORGE ELLIS on Will of JAMES ALLEN may turn out to be a very benefical lead! Explain that in separate email for those trying to sort out JONES lines in Fauquier County. Thanks again, Margo for sharing! Amanda Court Record Data Context Extract Bill of Sale - slave Ann F. Allen to Elizabeth Allen - 21 Dec. 1809 Defendant Henry Chandler; Elizabeth Chandler (aka Eliza Chandler) Deponent / Affiant George Kemper; Nancy Tulloss; William Jones Jr.; George Freeman; Nathaniel S. Hoomes; Elizabeth Y. Tulloss; John F. Allen; Ursley W. Tulloss Family John F. Allen, Elizabeth Allen, Ann F. Allen (aka Ann Field Allen) & Mrs. Ursley Tulloss (aka Ursley Tullows) (nee Ursley Allen) - children of James Allen Locality Fauquier Co.; Spotsylvania Co. Marriage George Pendleton -mr- FNU Allen, sister of Ann F. Allen & Elizabeth Allen Marriage Henry Chandler -mr- Elizabeth Allen Marriage James Stigler -mr- Ann F. Allen - married 21 Dec. 1809 Plaintiff James Stigler; Ann F. Stigler Slave Agnes - property of Ann F. Allen (later Ann F. Stigler) and Elizabeth Allen (later Elizabeth Chandler) Administrative Information Record title Stigler vs Chandler Year recorded 1818? Collection CR-SC! -H Record ID 250-26 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a will that mentions the family of Ann Field Allen. Margaret Schmidt Chicago To all whom these presents shall come I James Allen senior do send greeting. Know ye that I the said James Allen of the County of Fauquier and State of Virginia for and in consideration of the love good will and affection which I have and do bear towards my loving children, to wit John Field Allen, Sarah Kirk Pendleton, Ursla Withers Allen, Ann Field Allen and Betsey Allen all of the same county have given and granted and by these presents do freely give and grant unto these my said children John Field Allen, Sarah Kirk Pendelton, Ursla Withers Allen, All Field Allen and Betsey Allen, their heirs executors or administrators the following property to be equally divided among the above mentioned children, to wit, Slaves a negroe man by name of Peter, thrde negroe by name Lucy and Else and Bet one girl named Mary and four negroe children, Charles, Willis, Delila and Agnes with all the increase of said Slaves. In short all the stock of horses, cattle, hogs the household and kitchen furniture plantation utensils and all moneys due me. The said James Allen which property I have delivered them before the beginning of these presents to Have and to Hold the said property to these my Children, John Field Allen, Sarah Kirk Pendletom, Ursla Withers Allen, All Field Allen, and Betsey Allen, their heirs Executors and administrators from hence forth, as their own property, without any manner of condition. In witness whereof, I have hereunto put my hands and Seal this 17th July one thousand eight hundred and two. Signed Sealed and delivered In the presence of Nathaniel Hoomer Bechwith Siphon George his mark Ellis James Allen At a court held for Fauquier County the 26th day of July 1802 this Deed of Gift was proved to be the act and deed of the said James Allen by the oaths of Nathaniel Hoomer and George Ellis witnesses thereto and ordered to be recorded. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com