Charlotte - I don't believe yours tie in with mine but I did find a 1855 court suit against Landon L. Carter's heirs and listing the minor childen as Ada Byron Carter, Alice Lee Carter, Edward Carter, Orra Ella Carter ad Mary Kossuth (?) Carter. Also listed as deceased besides Landon L. is a Catherine Carter. Could this be yours? Jackie Charlotte Brown wrote: > My paternal great grand Aunt Catherine E. Murray married Landon L. Carter. > > From the Murray Family Bible transcribed for Lena Mae Tavenner Brown (my paternal grandmother): > "Catharine Murray - daughter of Ralph and Catharine, his wife, was born August 24th, 1818". Added to this entry was Lena's handwriting " married Maj Landon L Carter". > (copied from a paper clipping printed in the Richmond Enquirer which was placed in the bible - "DIED: Of typhoid fever, at his resident in Fauquier County, Virginia, Major Landon L Carter, aged 37 years 5 months and 24 days.. Maj. Carter was a highly respectable farmer, a good neighbor, a kind and affectionate husband. He has left a wife and five small children to mourn his loss.". > > In September 1834, Landon provided the bond for their guardian Juliet A. Murray to marry George W. Grayson (according to the Loudoun County, Va. Marriages 1760-1850). > > According to the U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules 1850-1880: Landon Carter died of typhoid fever at his residence in Ashby's District, Fauquier Co., Va. He was sick for 6 days prior to his death. > > From the Murray Bible "Catharine Murray daughter of Ralph and Catharine, his wife, departed this life July 12th 1854 aged 35 years 10 months and 19 days" > > Catherine was head of household when the 1850 census was taken in Ashby's District in Fauquier Co., Virginia. After Catherine's death, her children (Alice, Edward, Ella and Mary Catherine) were listed in 1860 census living with George W. and Juliet (Murray) Grayson and their family in Warren Co., Virginia. > > Based on the info found to date this Landon was born abt Sept 1812 and married Nov 18, 1837. > > Mentioned in a land deed (44,401) filed by L.L. Carter probated 26 Mar 1845 that he indebted to the orphans of Presley Carter, named as: Martha Carter, Leonidas Carter, Landon Carter, Catherine Carter, Edward Carter, Presley H.L. Carter & Joseph G. Carter, some of monies due in connection with property in Loudoun Co. VA. (Not sure if this deed is for the same L.L. Carter or not) > > Could any of this info tie back to the Landon Carters referenced in the emails? I have not located any further info on my great grand Aunt Catherine's husband Landon L. Carter. > > Charlotte > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marianne dillow > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:06 PM > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > > Here is some more of that same will as it is rather long and a deed.... Marianne Dillow > > > At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 > > This > Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert > Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors > therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved > to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin > Gent. > the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of > David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said > Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a > probate thereof in due form. > > Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. > Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. > > King George County Deed Book 4; pp. 539-542 > These Articles of Agreement concluded 11th day May 1764 between > LUCY CARTER Relict of CHARLES CARTER the Elder Esgr. late of county > King George and LANDON CARTER now' of Richmond and CHARLES CARTER of > county Lancaster Esqr Executors of last will and testament of Charles > Carter the Elder .. said Charles Carter the Elder did in his life time > by a certain instrument in writing bearing date 9th June 1763 drawn up > and > executed as a Marriage Contract between said Charles and above > mentioned Lucy then LUCY TALIAFERRO .. oblige himself to settle on her > One > thousand pounds Sterling to be paid her within six months of his decease > .. she did agree to accept in lieu of Dower .. also agreed to > leave Lucy the land and plantation which said Charles had purchased of > Executors of Maj. WILLIAM TALIAFERRO with a good and convenient dwelling > house upon the same to be decently furnish'd and suitable offices > thereto together with six working slaves, six house servants and their > Increase including a coachman and postilion, four Beaves, six muttons, > six Lambs & 1500 weight of pork over and above the produce of the said > plantation and slaves with a Chariot and six horses all of which .. > were to be held by Lucy during the time she should continue the widow > of said Charles only and Lucy now the relict and one of the contracting > parties of these presents being willing as she has survived the said > Charles her husband to accept of a compensation for the Plantation and > tract of land the houses to be built on the same, the furniture for > such Houses, the working and house slaves .. the said LANDON CARTER and > CHARLES CARTER also being willing that such compensation should be made > .. the several contracting parties agree the sum of Six hundred pounds > current money shall remain as a Debt upon the Estate for use of ANN > WALKER CARTER now an infant of about age of two months and daughter of > said Charles the Elder deceased and Lucy Garter to be as a Fortune for > said Ann Walker Carter to be paid her at age of twenty one or Lawfully > married .. that twelve months from date of these presents the sum of > Thirty pounds current money as one years Interest for said 600 pounds > be paid Lucy Carter for maintenance of Ann Walker Carter and for every > year 600 pounds sha] I remain as a Debt .. if Ann Walker Carter dies > before age twenty one Estate to pay Lucy Carter Four hundred pounds of > the Six hundred pounds .. > Presence John Tennent, Lucy Carter > Chs. Carter, John Skath Landon Carter > Charles Carter > At a court held 7th June 1764 .. Articles of Agreement admitted to recor > > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:41 PM > > Marianne - > > That was the will that started the court case to which I referred. > Apparently there was a subsequent dispute between Landon Jr. and John as > to how the land should be divided between them. A later court suit > (actually a continuation of the first but filed separately) gives > further details. Landon Jr. and John apparently came to an agreement but > it was never carried out before John's death - and that was when things > got hairy. > > But I do think the answer to the original question will be found within > this branch of the family. There are enough John's to go around. > > Jackie > > marianne dillow wrote: > >> I came in late too.... Marianne Dillow >> >> I have parts of a will here: >> >> Will of Landon Carter (1770/1779) of Sabine Hall, Richmond County, Virginia >> >> >> ***************************************************************************************** >> >> In the >> Name of God Amen, I Landon Carter of Sabine Hall in Richmond County >> being of sound and disposing mind and memory the fourth day of >> September in the year of our Lord seven hundred and seventy do make >> this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking all other Wills that >> have been heretofore made by me. >> >> Item 1st. I intend that my >> son Robert Wormeley Carter shall have one half of my slaves excepting I >> have hereafter given to George Carter my grandson and to Robert >> Hamilton and the other half much the same excepting just mentioned to >> be actually divided between my sons Landon Carter and John Carter. But >> whereas I have by a kind of gift or schedule signed by me the twenty >> second of December in the year Seven thousand and sixty hereunto >> annexed in a manner made over and given to my sons Landon and John >> forty two slaves to be equally divided between them. And whereas I have >> also given to my son Robert Wormley Carter fourteen slaves the >> thirteenth day of November in the same years and Schedule hereunto >> annexed which said several slaves of said sons have severally and >> respectively had the possession of agreeable to such intended Gifts. >> I >> do hereby appoint my friends Mr. Nelson Berkeley, Mr. Robert Beverly, >> The Honble. John Tayloe and Mr. Richard Parker my trustees to divide >> all my slaves except as before mentioned to George Carter & Robert >> Hamilton into four equal parts and I do desire that in the said >> division they have negros to the number and not to the Quality of these >> Slaves that have already been given or mentioned to have been given by >> me (but not their increase) to my said sons the gifts before mentioned >> so as my intention may be complied with in giving my estate as I have >> before declared (to wit) two fourths of my slaves to be divided to my >> son Robert Wormley Carter to be allotted him by my said Trustees in >> which lot Johnson a Mulatto, Betty a daughter to old Frank and [creased >> - next two-three lines partially illegible] not their increase may be >> included. One fourth part of my said slaves including those before >> mentioned to be given by deed as aforesaid (but not their increase) so >> my son Landon Carter and his [illegible] fourth part including those >> slaves before said to be given by the said Deed but not their increase. >> >> To my son John Carter to be allotted him by my said trustees as >> aforesaid, and in order to prevent any [illegible] that may otherwise >> happen in the Division and for a future [illegible] to my said Trustees >> in the division of my slaves as aforesaid I do discharge my intention >> to be that my several Sons amt. stand to their satisfaction in the >> slaves I have by deed as aforesaid given them so that the number of >> such slaves whereby given by the deed as aforesaid must be the >> principal Consideration of my said trustees and the division to be made >> as aforesaid without their [illegible] from the date of the said gift >> which I intended each son should [illegible- fold/crease] >> ************************************************************************************ >> by as I subjected them to any loss that might happen in the Slaves given them as before. >> >> As I have given so large a proportion of my slaves to my son Robert >> lest it should be thought that the slaves which I hold under the Will >> of my deceased brother George Carter are entailed (though I am fully >> persuaded they are not) I do declare it to be my Will and desire that >> my said son Robert should only have one Moiety or half part of all my >> slaves including of such as may be adjudged to be entailed upon him on >> any suit or [examination?] to be brought by him or given on his favour >> of his heirs for the recovery of them upon my Brother George’s Will. >> >> I give and devise to my son Robert Wormeley Carter and his heirs >> forever all my lands in the counties of York, Charles City, King & >> Queen, Lancaster, Northumberland, Richmond, Westmoreland, King George >> & Stafford and all my lands upon Chenandoah [sic] River as is all >> those in the County of Frederick as that tract on the blue Ridge on the >> Virginia side of Chimans River as it is called by the upper Inhabitants >> [crease - illegible] I have hereinafter given to Robert Hamilton in >> case that tract may happen in King George, Stafford or Prince William >> Countie. >> >> At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 >> >> This >> Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert >> Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors >> therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved >> to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin >> Gent. >> the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of >> David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said >> Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a >> probate thereof in due form. >> >> Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. >> Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. >> >> >> And after all that I don't know if this is the right one or not. LOL ! >> >> Marianne Dillow >> >> >> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:16 PM >> >> I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court >> case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles >> Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of >> John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and >> his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and >> Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John >> Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley >> Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of >> John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward >> Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John >> Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as >> heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh >> Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those >> children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. >> >> The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely the son of Landon >> Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. >> >> This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case >> begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of >> those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. >> >> Jackie >> >> >> >> marianne dillow wrote: >> >> >>> Chocy, >>> >>> I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. >>> >>> Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton of England. >>> >>> i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley >>> >>> ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry Corbin. >>> >>> iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. >>> >>> Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : >>> >>> "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. >>> >>> Signed: John Carter >>> >>> Marianne Dillow >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>> From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> >>> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >>> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM >>> >>> Marrianne, >>> I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a son to a John >>> CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon as Pat said >>> there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. >>> I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their fathers were not >>> named John CARTER. >>> Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER, son of this John >>> CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others. (given names >>> in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on repeating >>> themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they all got >>> together at a gathering!) >>> If I knew that the "Secretary" John CARTER had a son named Wormley, >>> then I would be more sure that I had the right family. >>> Chocy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks again and I get back after I go over the will and so forth. Chocy

Jackie, Let me go over all this to see what all fits together and I will report back. All this should really help. Chocy

I know how confusing the CARTERs are and I am "still" trying to make sense of the them at a very slow pace. This is a brief breakdown of my efforts in progress which are not necessarily correct: Landon CARTERs 1. Colonel Landon CARTER of "Sabin Hall"; 1709-1778; Wives: Elizabeth WORMLEY, Maria BIRD and Elizabeth BEALE of "Hesse". This Landon was a son of Robert "King" CARTER and half brother, to the John CARTER I suspected of being the one we seek within the lawsuit. John CARTER of Sudley (1737-1789, married to Janet HAMILTON was Landon No. 1's brother. 2. Landon Wormley CARTER, the son of #1; of Pittsylvania Plantation; 1738-1790; Wife: Judith Lucy FAUNTLEROY. 3. Landon CARTER, the son of Colonel Charles CARTER & Ann BIRD of "Cleves", King George County, Virginia; son Landon also from "Cleves"; 1750-1800; Wives: Mildred Elizabeth WILLIS, Molly FAUNTLEROY of "Nailor's Hole" and the widow, Elizabeth CARTER of "Sabin Hall" (Prelsey THORNTON). 4. Landon CARTER of "Sabin Hall"; 1761-1820; son of Robert Wormley CARTER and Winifred Travener BEALE; Wives: Catherine Griffin TAYLOE, Mary Burwell ARMISTEAD. His father, Robert Wormley was the son of Landon No. 1 and wife Elizabeth WORMLEY. 5. Landon CARTER of Pittsylvania, Prince William County, Virginia; born: ca 1789; Wife: Emily Henry CARTER. He was the son of Wormley CARTER and his wife Sara "Sally" EDWARDS. Wormley CARTER was the son of Landon CARTER No. 2 and his wife, Judith Lucy FAUNTLEROY. Chocy - Are you sure these are brothers? Landon Carter married to Elizabeth Wormley had son Landon Jr. and Robert Wormeley Carter. Landon Jr. had a son Charles Landon (who went variously by Charles or C.L. or Landon on court documents) and also a son Wormeley. Any combination of the four can be found on various court papers. Landon and Elizabeth Wormeley also had a son John (John of Sudely) who married Janet Hamilton. It is their son John whose will I believe you find in 1838. He also had a brother Landon and a brother Robert. Have I mentioned this family drives me nuts? Jackie

Chocy, I would only be distantly kin to  the children of Eleanor Eltonhead and Col John Carter.as it is  Eleanor's sister Martha that married Edwin Conway, Sr that are my grandparents.  I don't have a Carter grandparent.. just Martha  Eltonhead and Edwin Conway , Sr. .  I have wondered who Col. John Carter's parents  are but never pursued it  but am still working on my Conway line mainly.  But there are mamy descendants both from the  Eltonhead and Conway lines  all over Virginia and some in Maryland and that would include Carter descendants.. Marianne Dillow --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> Subject: [VAFAUQUI] Children of John CARTER of "Sudley" and Col. John CARTER d: 1699 "Nominy" To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:09 AM I finished going over some of the material we have been discussing and  hopefully I am not to confused. If anyone can set me straight, please do. First, this is for Mary Ann and is only a thought out of desperation to  find out who the parents of your Colonel John CARTER of Rap. Rv. in Lancaster  County who died: 1699 at "Nominy". Not knowing his birth year, I thought I'd throw this out as a  possibility. Robert CARTER and his wife Pricilla BLADEN were married about 1725. Robert  estimated birth year is ca 1704 and he died about 1732 at "Nominy" leaving 3  children that I know of  born between 1726 and the time of his death in  1732 at about age 28. If you figure in having a child about every two years they  had time to have at lease one more child or even two if Pricilla was expecting  at the time of Robert's death.   You may already have explored this  family; but if not it might turn up something for you. This was the son of  Robert "King" CARTER of "Corotoman Plantation", Lancaster County,  Virginia. I now have 7 Landon CARTERs. Thanks to everyone for the lawsuit information. I did not have any of John  CARTER of "Sudley" and his wife, Janet HAMILTION's children. For sure Robert,  Landon and Wormley are their children. However, as heirs of this John CARTER are Anne Beale, John and Edward  CARTER, also his children. Edward CARTER, probably not; but who are his  parents? CARTER the fun family, Chocy

Well there is one other Charles Landon you have to watch for - and I am still not sure where he fits in. That is Dr. Charles Landon Carter - and he was running around in the same area for a while. It is quite easy to try to get him mixed up in this whole mess. I might also mention that a few records from this branch are found in Loudoun county since a daughter of the correct Charles Landon moved there with her husband, who also had a propensity for filing court suits some of which resulted from this original court suit. I would have to look but I think the last record I have for any legal action that stemmed in one way or another from the original 1796 action is in 1848 - four years after Marion Steuart Carter Rhodes death. Any my sympathy on the boot. I was in one earlier this year for about six weeks. I wish I could blame something normal like black ice. I can't. I broke my foot chasing one of our cockatiels around. Jackie marianne dillow wrote: > Don't you just hate it when they keep naming each other after the other one.. generation after generation. LOL ! I think the snow is getting to me plus I fell and broke my left ankle and had surgery and am in a boot until March 16th when I start physical therapy.. it is called black ice no one can see .. and I didn't. I have to have a sense of humor until then. Playing around with the Carters adds to the humor. LOL ! > > Marianne Dillow > > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:41 PM > > Marianne - > > That was the will that started the court case to which I referred. > Apparently there was a subsequent dispute between Landon Jr. and John as > to how the land should be divided between them. A later court suit > (actually a continuation of the first but filed separately) gives > further details. Landon Jr. and John apparently came to an agreement but > it was never carried out before John's death - and that was when things > got hairy. > > But I do think the answer to the original question will be found within > this branch of the family. There are enough John's to go around. > > Jackie > > marianne dillow wrote: > >> I came in late too.... Marianne Dillow >> >> I have parts of a will here: >> >> Will of Landon Carter (1770/1779) of Sabine Hall, Richmond County, Virginia >> >> >> ***************************************************************************************** >> >> In the >> Name of God Amen, I Landon Carter of Sabine Hall in Richmond County >> being of sound and disposing mind and memory the fourth day of >> September in the year of our Lord seven hundred and seventy do make >> this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking all other Wills that >> have been heretofore made by me. >> >> Item 1st. I intend that my >> son Robert Wormeley Carter shall have one half of my slaves excepting I >> have hereafter given to George Carter my grandson and to Robert >> Hamilton and the other half much the same excepting just mentioned to >> be actually divided between my sons Landon Carter and John Carter. But >> whereas I have by a kind of gift or schedule signed by me the twenty >> second of December in the year Seven thousand and sixty hereunto >> annexed in a manner made over and given to my sons Landon and John >> forty two slaves to be equally divided between them. And whereas I have >> also given to my son Robert Wormley Carter fourteen slaves the >> thirteenth day of November in the same years and Schedule hereunto >> annexed which said several slaves of said sons have severally and >> respectively had the possession of agreeable to such intended Gifts. >> I >> do hereby appoint my friends Mr. Nelson Berkeley, Mr. Robert Beverly, >> The Honble. John Tayloe and Mr. Richard Parker my trustees to divide >> all my slaves except as before mentioned to George Carter & Robert >> Hamilton into four equal parts and I do desire that in the said >> division they have negros to the number and not to the Quality of these >> Slaves that have already been given or mentioned to have been given by >> me (but not their increase) to my said sons the gifts before mentioned >> so as my intention may be complied with in giving my estate as I have >> before declared (to wit) two fourths of my slaves to be divided to my >> son Robert Wormley Carter to be allotted him by my said Trustees in >> which lot Johnson a Mulatto, Betty a daughter to old Frank and [creased >> - next two-three lines partially illegible] not their increase may be >> included. One fourth part of my said slaves including those before >> mentioned to be given by deed as aforesaid (but not their increase) so >> my son Landon Carter and his [illegible] fourth part including those >> slaves before said to be given by the said Deed but not their increase. >> >> To my son John Carter to be allotted him by my said trustees as >> aforesaid, and in order to prevent any [illegible] that may otherwise >> happen in the Division and for a future [illegible] to my said Trustees >> in the division of my slaves as aforesaid I do discharge my intention >> to be that my several Sons amt. stand to their satisfaction in the >> slaves I have by deed as aforesaid given them so that the number of >> such slaves whereby given by the deed as aforesaid must be the >> principal Consideration of my said trustees and the division to be made >> as aforesaid without their [illegible] from the date of the said gift >> which I intended each son should [illegible- fold/crease] >> ************************************************************************************ >> by as I subjected them to any loss that might happen in the Slaves given them as before. >> >> As I have given so large a proportion of my slaves to my son Robert >> lest it should be thought that the slaves which I hold under the Will >> of my deceased brother George Carter are entailed (though I am fully >> persuaded they are not) I do declare it to be my Will and desire that >> my said son Robert should only have one Moiety or half part of all my >> slaves including of such as may be adjudged to be entailed upon him on >> any suit or [examination?] to be brought by him or given on his favour >> of his heirs for the recovery of them upon my Brother George’s Will. >> >> I give and devise to my son Robert Wormeley Carter and his heirs >> forever all my lands in the counties of York, Charles City, King & >> Queen, Lancaster, Northumberland, Richmond, Westmoreland, King George >> & Stafford and all my lands upon Chenandoah [sic] River as is all >> those in the County of Frederick as that tract on the blue Ridge on the >> Virginia side of Chimans River as it is called by the upper Inhabitants >> [crease - illegible] I have hereinafter given to Robert Hamilton in >> case that tract may happen in King George, Stafford or Prince William >> Countie. >> >> At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 >> >> This >> Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert >> Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors >> therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved >> to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin >> Gent. >> the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of >> David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said >> Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a >> probate thereof in due form. >> >> Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. >> Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. >> >> >> And after all that I don't know if this is the right one or not. LOL ! >> >> Marianne Dillow >> >> >> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:16 PM >> >> I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court >> case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles >> Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of >> John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and >> his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and >> Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John >> Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley >> Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of >> John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward >> Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John >> Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as >> heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh >> Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those >> children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. >> >> The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely the son of Landon >> Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. >> >> This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case >> begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of >> those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. >> >> Jackie >> >> >> >> marianne dillow wrote: >> >> >>> Chocy, >>> >>> I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. >>> >>> Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton of England. >>> >>> i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley >>> >>> ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry Corbin. >>> >>> iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. >>> >>> Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : >>> >>> "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. >>> >>> Signed: John Carter >>> >>> Marianne Dillow >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>> From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> >>> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >>> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM >>> >>> Marrianne, >>> I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a son to a John >>> CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon as Pat said >>> there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. >>> I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their fathers were not >>> named John CARTER. >>> Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER, son of this John >>> CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others. (given names >>> in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on repeating >>> themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they all got >>> together at a gathering!) >>> If I knew that the "Secretary" John CARTER had a son named Wormley, >>> then I would be more sure that I had the right family. >>> Chocy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just had to correct  a death date on my 9th great grandfather Edwin Conway, Sr from the Glassell book by Hayden. So I think in most data there will be errors.  Mine could be wrong on that last posting on the Carters in Loudoun but it was what I came across but can't vouch for it. Just throwing it out for consideration. My Edwin Conway, Sr actually died 1660/61 and Henry Corbin was executor but Hayden gave 1687 which actually was a family member doing another court record. Marianne Dillow --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 11:49 PM Marianne - I show the child married to Sarah Edwards simply as Wormley or Wormeley (you will find the second as an alternative spelling. I don't think I have ever seen him referred to as Landon Wormley. As for Charles Landon - you will sometimes see people refer to him as Charles Landon Beale Carter. I have never found any documentation for that and indeed all of his signatures are either C.L., Charles Landon or I have found one document that is C. Landon Carter.  I believe he was probably actually born in Fauquier Co. since that is where the family estate was - but his later estate of Ridgeville apparently spanned the two counties a bit. Charles and Ann Steuart Carter had 8 children - and their names just add to the family pattern  - Susan Catherine, Judith Anne, Hebe, Charles Landon, Mary Fauntleroy, Marion Steuart, Duncan Steuart and Ellen Moore Carter.  Fauntleroy was carried as a middle name in this family for several generations. Jackie marianne dillow wrote: > Since Loudoun was formed from Fairfax and it from Prince William Co., Va I have the following as I have 4 other family lines in those counties not kin to the Carters: > > i. Robert "King" Carter and Elizabeth Landon > > ii. Landon Carter and Elizabeth Wormley > > iii. Landon Wormley Carter and Judith Fauntleroy > > They had among their children two sons: > > a. Landon Wormley Carter b 1760 Prince William Co., Va.  D 1815 in same location. He married Sarah Edwards dau of James William Edwards and Sarah Sangster Everett. > > b. Charles Landon Carter b 24 Feb 1774 Loudoun Co., Va. D Aft 1834. He married Anne Steuart. 24 Feb 1801 in Washington, DC.   She was the dau of Hugh Steuart and Anne Orr. She died in Fauquier Co., Va. > > That's all I have on them other than what I have already posted. . Marianne Dillow

I can't speak to the veracity of the Charles & Ann Bird family - while I note them they are a branch I have not delved into much. I have a specific interest in a couple of Landon Jr.'s children who have never been traced much so I have concentrated my efforts there. However the rest of your list is basically as I have it give a year or two on a birthdate. The 1804 court suit what lists Robert Carter on behalf of the heirs is long - but it does give some family relationships. It also has some basic maps. Charles Landon Carter (many misread his middle initial as he signed it so you find him listed many times as C.K.) complicated things later when his health (mental I believe) failed him after his wife's death and his portion of the estate of Landon Jr. also became a legal mess involving some of these same people. Charles Landon's land was known as Ridgeville - and I have yet to find a good map showing that. Even more of the disputed area ended up with Landon Jr.'s daughter Judith who married Dr. Isaac Henry and later gained infamy as the first female civilian casualty of the Civil War during the first battle of Manassas (or Bull Run). By then the estate of this branch of the Carter family was being subdivided into oblivion. Jackie Chocybrown@aol.com wrote: > I know how confusing the CARTERs are and I am "still" trying to make sense > of the them at a very slow pace. This is a brief breakdown of my efforts in > progress which are not necessarily correct: > > Landon CARTERs > > 1. Colonel Landon CARTER of "Sabin Hall"; 1709-1778; Wives: Elizabeth > WORMLEY, Maria BIRD and Elizabeth BEALE of "Hesse". This Landon was a son of > Robert "King" CARTER and half brother, to the John CARTER I suspected of being > the one we seek within the lawsuit. John CARTER of Sudley (1737-1789, > married to Janet HAMILTON was Landon No. 1's brother. > > 2. Landon Wormley CARTER, the son of #1; of Pittsylvania Plantation; > 1738-1790; Wife: Judith Lucy FAUNTLEROY. > > 3. Landon CARTER, the son of Colonel Charles CARTER & Ann BIRD of > "Cleves", King George County, Virginia; son Landon also from "Cleves"; 1750-1800; > Wives: Mildred Elizabeth WILLIS, Molly FAUNTLEROY of "Nailor's Hole" and > the widow, Elizabeth CARTER of "Sabin Hall" (Prelsey THORNTON). > > 4. Landon CARTER of "Sabin Hall"; 1761-1820; son of Robert Wormley CARTER > and Winifred Travener BEALE; Wives: Catherine Griffin TAYLOE, Mary Burwell > ARMISTEAD. His father, Robert Wormley was the son of Landon No. 1 and wife > Elizabeth WORMLEY. > > 5. Landon CARTER of Pittsylvania, Prince William County, Virginia; born: ca > 1789; Wife: Emily Henry CARTER. He was the son of Wormley CARTER and his > wife Sara "Sally" EDWARDS. Wormley CARTER was the son of Landon CARTER No. > 2 and his wife, Judith Lucy FAUNTLEROY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chocy - > > Are you sure these are brothers? > > Landon Carter married to Elizabeth Wormley had son Landon Jr. and Robert > Wormeley Carter. Landon Jr. had a son Charles Landon (who went variously > by Charles or C.L. or Landon on court documents) and also a son > Wormeley. Any combination of the four can be found on various court papers. > > Landon and Elizabeth Wormeley also had a son John (John of Sudely) who > married Janet Hamilton. It is their son John whose will I believe you > find in 1838. He also had a brother Landon and a brother Robert. > > Have I mentioned this family drives me nuts? > > Jackie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am a descendant of John White who's daughter Frances E. White married Henry L Carter in Fauquier county before 1849. She died after two children. Henry L. Carter +Frances E. White Mary Carter b: Oct 1849 Chalmers Shirly Carter b: Mar 1855 Can anyone help with info on Henry or the two children? Richard Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie King" <jking71@gmail.com> To: <vafauqui@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > Charlotte - > > I don't believe yours tie in with mine but I did find a 1855 court suit > against Landon L. Carter's heirs and listing the minor childen as Ada > Byron Carter, Alice Lee Carter, Edward Carter, Orra Ella Carter ad Mary > Kossuth (?) Carter. Also listed as deceased besides Landon L. is a > Catherine Carter. Could this be yours? > > Jackie > > Charlotte Brown wrote: >> My paternal great grand Aunt Catherine E. Murray married Landon L. >> Carter. >> >> From the Murray Family Bible transcribed for Lena Mae Tavenner Brown (my >> paternal grandmother): >> "Catharine Murray - daughter of Ralph and Catharine, his wife, was born >> August 24th, 1818". Added to this entry was Lena's handwriting " married >> Maj Landon L Carter". >> (copied from a paper clipping printed in the Richmond Enquirer which was >> placed in the bible - "DIED: Of typhoid fever, at his resident in >> Fauquier County, Virginia, Major Landon L Carter, aged 37 years 5 months >> and 24 days.. Maj. Carter was a highly respectable farmer, a good >> neighbor, a kind and affectionate husband. He has left a wife and five >> small children to mourn his loss.". >> >> In September 1834, Landon provided the bond for their guardian Juliet A. >> Murray to marry George W. Grayson (according to the Loudoun County, Va. >> Marriages 1760-1850). >> >> According to the U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules 1850-1880: >> Landon Carter died of typhoid fever at his residence in Ashby's District, >> Fauquier Co., Va. He was sick for 6 days prior to his death. >> >> From the Murray Bible "Catharine Murray daughter of Ralph and Catharine, >> his wife, departed this life July 12th 1854 aged 35 years 10 months and >> 19 days" >> >> Catherine was head of household when the 1850 census was taken in Ashby's >> District in Fauquier Co., Virginia. After Catherine's death, her >> children (Alice, Edward, Ella and Mary Catherine) were listed in 1860 >> census living with George W. and Juliet (Murray) Grayson and their family >> in Warren Co., Virginia. >> >> Based on the info found to date this Landon was born abt Sept 1812 and >> married Nov 18, 1837. >> >> Mentioned in a land deed (44,401) filed by L.L. Carter probated 26 Mar >> 1845 that he indebted to the orphans of Presley Carter, named as: Martha >> Carter, Leonidas Carter, Landon Carter, Catherine Carter, Edward Carter, >> Presley H.L. Carter & Joseph G. Carter, some of monies due in connection >> with property in Loudoun Co. VA. (Not sure if this deed is for the same >> L.L. Carter or not) >> >> Could any of this info tie back to the Landon Carters referenced in the >> emails? I have not located any further info on my great grand Aunt >> Catherine's husband Landon L. Carter. >> >> Charlotte >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:vafauqui-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marianne dillow >> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:06 PM >> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >> >> Here is some more of that same will as it is rather long and a deed.... >> Marianne Dillow >> >> >> At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 >> >> This >> Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert >> Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors >> therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved >> to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin >> Gent. >> the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of >> David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said >> Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a >> probate thereof in due form. >> >> Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. >> Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. >> >> King George County Deed Book 4; pp. 539-542 >> These Articles of Agreement concluded 11th day May 1764 between >> LUCY CARTER Relict of CHARLES CARTER the Elder Esgr. late of county >> King George and LANDON CARTER now' of Richmond and CHARLES CARTER of >> county Lancaster Esqr Executors of last will and testament of Charles >> Carter the Elder .. said Charles Carter the Elder did in his life time >> by a certain instrument in writing bearing date 9th June 1763 drawn up >> and >> executed as a Marriage Contract between said Charles and above >> mentioned Lucy then LUCY TALIAFERRO .. oblige himself to settle on her >> One >> thousand pounds Sterling to be paid her within six months of his decease >> .. she did agree to accept in lieu of Dower .. also agreed to >> leave Lucy the land and plantation which said Charles had purchased of >> Executors of Maj. WILLIAM TALIAFERRO with a good and convenient dwelling >> house upon the same to be decently furnish'd and suitable offices >> thereto together with six working slaves, six house servants and their >> Increase including a coachman and postilion, four Beaves, six muttons, >> six Lambs & 1500 weight of pork over and above the produce of the said >> plantation and slaves with a Chariot and six horses all of which .. >> were to be held by Lucy during the time she should continue the widow >> of said Charles only and Lucy now the relict and one of the contracting >> parties of these presents being willing as she has survived the said >> Charles her husband to accept of a compensation for the Plantation and >> tract of land the houses to be built on the same, the furniture for >> such Houses, the working and house slaves .. the said LANDON CARTER and >> CHARLES CARTER also being willing that such compensation should be made >> .. the several contracting parties agree the sum of Six hundred pounds >> current money shall remain as a Debt upon the Estate for use of ANN >> WALKER CARTER now an infant of about age of two months and daughter of >> said Charles the Elder deceased and Lucy Garter to be as a Fortune for >> said Ann Walker Carter to be paid her at age of twenty one or Lawfully >> married .. that twelve months from date of these presents the sum of >> Thirty pounds current money as one years Interest for said 600 pounds >> be paid Lucy Carter for maintenance of Ann Walker Carter and for every >> year 600 pounds sha] I remain as a Debt .. if Ann Walker Carter dies >> before age twenty one Estate to pay Lucy Carter Four hundred pounds of >> the Six hundred pounds .. >> Presence John Tennent, Lucy Carter >> Chs. Carter, John Skath Landon Carter >> Charles Carter >> At a court held 7th June 1764 .. Articles of Agreement admitted to recor >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:41 PM >> >> Marianne - >> >> That was the will that started the court case to which I referred. >> Apparently there was a subsequent dispute between Landon Jr. and John as >> to how the land should be divided between them. A later court suit >> (actually a continuation of the first but filed separately) gives >> further details. Landon Jr. and John apparently came to an agreement but >> it was never carried out before John's death - and that was when things >> got hairy. >> >> But I do think the answer to the original question will be found within >> this branch of the family. There are enough John's to go around. >> >> Jackie >> >> marianne dillow wrote: >> >>> I came in late too.... Marianne Dillow >>> >>> I have parts of a will here: >>> >>> Will of Landon Carter (1770/1779) of Sabine Hall, Richmond County, >>> Virginia >>> >>> >>> ***************************************************************************************** >>> >>> In the >>> Name of God Amen, I Landon Carter of Sabine Hall in Richmond County >>> being of sound and disposing mind and memory the fourth day of >>> September in the year of our Lord seven hundred and seventy do make >>> this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking all other Wills that >>> have been heretofore made by me. >>> >>> Item 1st. I intend that my >>> son Robert Wormeley Carter shall have one half of my slaves excepting I >>> have hereafter given to George Carter my grandson and to Robert >>> Hamilton and the other half much the same excepting just mentioned to >>> be actually divided between my sons Landon Carter and John Carter. But >>> whereas I have by a kind of gift or schedule signed by me the twenty >>> second of December in the year Seven thousand and sixty hereunto >>> annexed in a manner made over and given to my sons Landon and John >>> forty two slaves to be equally divided between them. And whereas I have >>> also given to my son Robert Wormley Carter fourteen slaves the >>> thirteenth day of November in the same years and Schedule hereunto >>> annexed which said several slaves of said sons have severally and >>> respectively had the possession of agreeable to such intended Gifts. >>> I >>> do hereby appoint my friends Mr. Nelson Berkeley, Mr. Robert Beverly, >>> The Honble. John Tayloe and Mr. Richard Parker my trustees to divide >>> all my slaves except as before mentioned to George Carter & Robert >>> Hamilton into four equal parts and I do desire that in the said >>> division they have negros to the number and not to the Quality of these >>> Slaves that have already been given or mentioned to have been given by >>> me (but not their increase) to my said sons the gifts before mentioned >>> so as my intention may be complied with in giving my estate as I have >>> before declared (to wit) two fourths of my slaves to be divided to my >>> son Robert Wormley Carter to be allotted him by my said Trustees in >>> which lot Johnson a Mulatto, Betty a daughter to old Frank and [creased >>> - next two-three lines partially illegible] not their increase may be >>> included. One fourth part of my said slaves including those before >>> mentioned to be given by deed as aforesaid (but not their increase) so >>> my son Landon Carter and his [illegible] fourth part including those >>> slaves before said to be given by the said Deed but not their increase. >>> >>> To my son John Carter to be allotted him by my said trustees as >>> aforesaid, and in order to prevent any [illegible] that may otherwise >>> happen in the Division and for a future [illegible] to my said Trustees >>> in the division of my slaves as aforesaid I do discharge my intention >>> to be that my several Sons amt. stand to their satisfaction in the >>> slaves I have by deed as aforesaid given them so that the number of >>> such slaves whereby given by the deed as aforesaid must be the >>> principal Consideration of my said trustees and the division to be made >>> as aforesaid without their [illegible] from the date of the said gift >>> which I intended each son should [illegible- fold/crease] >>> ************************************************************************************ >>> by as I subjected them to any loss that might happen in the Slaves given >>> them as before. >>> >>> As I have given so large a proportion of my slaves to my son Robert >>> lest it should be thought that the slaves which I hold under the Will >>> of my deceased brother George Carter are entailed (though I am fully >>> persuaded they are not) I do declare it to be my Will and desire that >>> my said son Robert should only have one Moiety or half part of all my >>> slaves including of such as may be adjudged to be entailed upon him on >>> any suit or [examination?] to be brought by him or given on his favour >>> of his heirs for the recovery of them upon my Brother George’s Will. >>> >>> I give and devise to my son Robert Wormeley Carter and his heirs >>> forever all my lands in the counties of York, Charles City, King & >>> Queen, Lancaster, Northumberland, Richmond, Westmoreland, King George >>> & Stafford and all my lands upon Chenandoah [sic] River as is all >>> those in the County of Frederick as that tract on the blue Ridge on the >>> Virginia side of Chimans River as it is called by the upper Inhabitants >>> [crease - illegible] I have hereinafter given to Robert Hamilton in >>> case that tract may happen in King George, Stafford or Prince William >>> Countie. >>> >>> At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 >>> >>> This >>> Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert >>> Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors >>> therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved >>> to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin >>> Gent. >>> the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of >>> David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said >>> Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a >>> probate thereof in due form. >>> >>> Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. >>> Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. >>> >>> >>> And after all that I don't know if this is the right one or not. LOL ! >>> >>> Marianne Dillow >>> >>> >>> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >>> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:16 PM >>> >>> I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court >>> case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles >>> Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of >>> John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and >>> his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and >>> Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John >>> Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley >>> Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of >>> John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward >>> Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John >>> Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as >>> heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh >>> Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those >>> children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. >>> >>> The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely the son of Landon >>> Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. >>> >>> This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case >>> begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of >>> those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. >>> >>> Jackie >>> >>> >>> >>> marianne dillow wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Chocy, >>>> >>>> I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin >>>> Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I >>>> descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry >>>> Thacker, Sr. >>>> >>>> Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead >>>> and Ann Sutton of England. >>>> >>>> i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph >>>> Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley >>>> >>>> ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry >>>> Corbin. >>>> >>>> iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. >>>> He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. >>>> >>>> Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway >>>> that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : >>>> >>>> "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the >>>> County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my >>>> niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and >>>> assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents >>>> give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said >>>> Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye >>>> plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red >>>> and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer >>>> withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead >>>> Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let >>>> or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I >>>> have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. >>>> >>>> Signed: John Carter >>>> >>>> Marianne Dillow >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >>>> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >>>> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM >>>> >>>> Marrianne, >>>> I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a son to a John >>>> CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon as >>>> Pat said >>>> there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. >>>> I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their fathers were not >>>> named John CARTER. >>>> Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER, son of this >>>> John >>>> CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others. (given >>>> names >>>> in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on >>>> repeating >>>> themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they all >>>> got >>>> together at a gathering!) >>>> If I knew that the "Secretary" John CARTER had a son named >>>> Wormley, >>>> then I would be more sure that I had the right family. >>>> Chocy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marianne - That was the will that started the court case to which I referred. Apparently there was a subsequent dispute between Landon Jr. and John as to how the land should be divided between them. A later court suit (actually a continuation of the first but filed separately) gives further details. Landon Jr. and John apparently came to an agreement but it was never carried out before John's death - and that was when things got hairy. But I do think the answer to the original question will be found within this branch of the family. There are enough John's to go around. Jackie marianne dillow wrote: > I came in late too.... Marianne Dillow > > I have parts of a will here: > > Will of Landon Carter (1770/1779) of Sabine Hall, Richmond County, Virginia > > > ***************************************************************************************** > > In the > Name of God Amen, I Landon Carter of Sabine Hall in Richmond County > being of sound and disposing mind and memory the fourth day of > September in the year of our Lord seven hundred and seventy do make > this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking all other Wills that > have been heretofore made by me. > > Item 1st. I intend that my > son Robert Wormeley Carter shall have one half of my slaves excepting I > have hereafter given to George Carter my grandson and to Robert > Hamilton and the other half much the same excepting just mentioned to > be actually divided between my sons Landon Carter and John Carter. But > whereas I have by a kind of gift or schedule signed by me the twenty > second of December in the year Seven thousand and sixty hereunto > annexed in a manner made over and given to my sons Landon and John > forty two slaves to be equally divided between them. And whereas I have > also given to my son Robert Wormley Carter fourteen slaves the > thirteenth day of November in the same years and Schedule hereunto > annexed which said several slaves of said sons have severally and > respectively had the possession of agreeable to such intended Gifts. > I > do hereby appoint my friends Mr. Nelson Berkeley, Mr. Robert Beverly, > The Honble. John Tayloe and Mr. Richard Parker my trustees to divide > all my slaves except as before mentioned to George Carter & Robert > Hamilton into four equal parts and I do desire that in the said > division they have negros to the number and not to the Quality of these > Slaves that have already been given or mentioned to have been given by > me (but not their increase) to my said sons the gifts before mentioned > so as my intention may be complied with in giving my estate as I have > before declared (to wit) two fourths of my slaves to be divided to my > son Robert Wormley Carter to be allotted him by my said Trustees in > which lot Johnson a Mulatto, Betty a daughter to old Frank and [creased > - next two-three lines partially illegible] not their increase may be > included. One fourth part of my said slaves including those before > mentioned to be given by deed as aforesaid (but not their increase) so > my son Landon Carter and his [illegible] fourth part including those > slaves before said to be given by the said Deed but not their increase. > > To my son John Carter to be allotted him by my said trustees as > aforesaid, and in order to prevent any [illegible] that may otherwise > happen in the Division and for a future [illegible] to my said Trustees > in the division of my slaves as aforesaid I do discharge my intention > to be that my several Sons amt. stand to their satisfaction in the > slaves I have by deed as aforesaid given them so that the number of > such slaves whereby given by the deed as aforesaid must be the > principal Consideration of my said trustees and the division to be made > as aforesaid without their [illegible] from the date of the said gift > which I intended each son should [illegible- fold/crease] > ************************************************************************************ > by as I subjected them to any loss that might happen in the Slaves given them as before. > > As I have given so large a proportion of my slaves to my son Robert > lest it should be thought that the slaves which I hold under the Will > of my deceased brother George Carter are entailed (though I am fully > persuaded they are not) I do declare it to be my Will and desire that > my said son Robert should only have one Moiety or half part of all my > slaves including of such as may be adjudged to be entailed upon him on > any suit or [examination?] to be brought by him or given on his favour > of his heirs for the recovery of them upon my Brother George’s Will. > > I give and devise to my son Robert Wormeley Carter and his heirs > forever all my lands in the counties of York, Charles City, King & > Queen, Lancaster, Northumberland, Richmond, Westmoreland, King George > & Stafford and all my lands upon Chenandoah [sic] River as is all > those in the County of Frederick as that tract on the blue Ridge on the > Virginia side of Chimans River as it is called by the upper Inhabitants > [crease - illegible] I have hereinafter given to Robert Hamilton in > case that tract may happen in King George, Stafford or Prince William > Countie. > > At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 > > This > Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert > Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors > therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved > to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin > Gent. > the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of > David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said > Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a > probate thereof in due form. > > Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. > Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. > > > And after all that I don't know if this is the right one or not. LOL ! > > Marianne Dillow > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:16 PM > > I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court > case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles > Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of > John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and > his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and > Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John > Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley > Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of > John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward > Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John > Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as > heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh > Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those > children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. > > The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely the son of Landon > Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. > > This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case > begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of > those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. > > Jackie > > > > marianne dillow wrote: > >> Chocy, >> >> I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. >> >> Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton of England. >> >> i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley >> >> ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry Corbin. >> >> iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. >> >> Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : >> >> "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. >> >> Signed: John Carter >> >> Marianne Dillow >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: >> >> From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM >> >> Marrianne, >> I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a son to a John >> CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon as Pat said >> there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. >> I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their fathers were not >> named John CARTER. >> Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER, son of this John >> CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others. (given names >> in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on repeating >> themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they all got >> together at a gathering!) >> If I knew that the "Secretary" John CARTER had a son named Wormley, >> then I would be more sure that I had the right family. >> Chocy >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marrianne, I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a son to a John CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon as Pat said there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their fathers were not named John CARTER. Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER, son of this John CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others. (given names in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on repeating themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they all got together at a gathering!) If I knew that the "Secretary" John CARTER had a son named Wormley, then I would be more sure that I had the right family. Chocy

I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely the son of Landon Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. Jackie marianne dillow wrote: > Chocy, > > I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. > > Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton of England. > > i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley > > ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry Corbin. > > iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. > > Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : > > "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. > > Signed: John Carter > > Marianne Dillow > > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: > > From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM > > Marrianne, > I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a son to a John > CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon as Pat said > there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. > I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their fathers were not > named John CARTER. > Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER, son of this John > CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others. (given names > in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on repeating > themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they all got > together at a gathering!) > If I knew that the "Secretary" John CARTER had a son named Wormley, > then I would be more sure that I had the right family. > Chocy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Since Loudoun was formed from Fairfax and it from Prince William Co., Va I have the following as I have 4 other family lines in those counties not kin to the Carters: i. Robert "King" Carter and Elizabeth Landon ii. Landon Carter and Elizabeth Wormley iii. Landon Wormley Carter and Judith Fauntleroy They had among their children two sons: a. Landon Wormley Carter b 1760 Prince William Co., Va.  D 1815 in same location. He married Sarah Edwards dau of James William Edwards and Sarah Sangster Everett. b. Charles Landon Carter b 24 Feb 1774 Loudoun Co., Va. D Aft 1834. He married Anne Steuart. 24 Feb 1801 in Washington, DC.   She was the dau of Hugh Steuart and Anne Orr. She died in Fauquier Co., Va. That's all I have on them other than what I have already posted. . Marianne Dillow

Chocy - Are you sure these are brothers? Landon Carter married to Elizabeth Wormley had son Landon Jr. and Robert Wormeley Carter. Landon Jr. had a son Charles Landon (who went variously by Charles or C.L. or Landon on court documents) and also a son Wormeley. Any combination of the four can be found on various court papers. Landon and Elizabeth Wormeley also had a son John (John of Sudely) who married Janet Hamilton. It is their son John whose will I believe you find in 1838. He also had a brother Landon and a brother Robert. Have I mentioned this family drives me nuts? Jackie Chocybrown@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Listers, > Could the below John CARTER be the father of Landon, Wormley and Robert > CARTER? I have Charles which Pat said was called called by Landon and I also > have a Robert but no Wormley (but that doesn't mean anything because I > could easily just not have found him, yet) > Otherwise, the name ARMISTEAD was this John CARTER's mother's maiden name > which may be the family that connects John ARMISTEAD and his wife Anne > BEALE. There are also BEALS closely associate with this part of the CARTER > family. > Chocy > Secretary John CARTER (1) > Birth: 1691 Corotman Plantation, Lancaster County, > Virginia > Father: Robert "King" CARTER of Corotoman, Virginia (1663-1732) > Mother: Judith ARMISTEAD (1665-1699) > Spouses: > ---------------------------------------- > 1: Elizabeth HILL1 > Birth: 1698 > Father: Colonal-Captain Edward HILL Jr., of "Shirley" (1646-1700) > Mother: Tabitha SCARBURGH (1639-) > Marriage: 1716 > Children: Robert (1717-) > Edward (1719-1792) > Charles (1723-1806) > Elizabeth (1728-1760) > Notes for Secretary John CARTER > 1Eldest son. > Sources > 1. “Some Prominent Virginia Families,” Louise Pacquet du Bellet, Edward > Jaquelin, Martha Cary Jaquelin, 1907, Google Books Online. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have a Phoebe/Phebe Carter in their files???? Probably born between 1720/30. I have a John White who was in Lunenburg who married a Phoebe/Pebe and they had a son, Carter. The name Carter had come down in the family for many years. We THINK Phoebe was a Carter. Mary June Knoxville, Tennessee -----Original Message----- From: marianne dillow <marlowest155@verizon.net> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Feb 13, 2010 2:41 pm Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? Chocy, I have seen this too. I have the Glassell book. But when I googled I saw more arters from that original posting. and now I have forgotten that posters dates. think it was a Landon Carter but I have seen several by the name of Landon. nyway, to help I need those dates again but can't promise a answer. Marianne Dillow --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> ubject: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? o: vafauqui@rootsweb.com ate: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 7:30 PM i Listers, ould the below John CARTER be the father of Landon, Wormley and Robert ARTER? I have Charles which Pat said was called called by Landon and I also ave a Robert but no Wormley (but that doesn't mean anything because I ould easily just not have found him, yet) therwise, the name ARMISTEAD was this John CARTER's mother's maiden name hich may be the family that connects John ARMISTEAD and his wife Anne EALE. There are also BEALS closely associate with this part of the CARTER amily. hocy ecretary John CARTER (1) irth: 1691 Corotman Plantation, Lancaster County, irginia ather: Robert "King" CARTER of Corotoman, Virginia (1663-1732) other: Judith ARMISTEAD (1665-1699) pouses: --------------------------------------- : Elizabeth HILL1 irth: 1698 ather: Colonal-Captain Edward HILL Jr., of "Shirley" (1646-1700) other: Tabitha SCARBURGH (1639-) arriage: 1716 hildren: Robert (1717-) dward (1719-1792) harles (1723-1806) lizabeth (1728-1760) otes for Secretary John CARTER Eldest son. ources . “Some Prominent Virginia Families,” Louise Pacquet du Bellet, Edward aquelin, Martha Cary Jaquelin, 1907, Google Books Online. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi Listers, Could the below John CARTER be the father of Landon, Wormley and Robert CARTER? I have Charles which Pat said was called called by Landon and I also have a Robert but no Wormley (but that doesn't mean anything because I could easily just not have found him, yet) Otherwise, the name ARMISTEAD was this John CARTER's mother's maiden name which may be the family that connects John ARMISTEAD and his wife Anne BEALE. There are also BEALS closely associate with this part of the CARTER family. Chocy Secretary John CARTER (1) Birth: 1691 Corotman Plantation, Lancaster County, Virginia Father: Robert "King" CARTER of Corotoman, Virginia (1663-1732) Mother: Judith ARMISTEAD (1665-1699) Spouses: ---------------------------------------- 1: Elizabeth HILL1 Birth: 1698 Father: Colonal-Captain Edward HILL Jr., of "Shirley" (1646-1700) Mother: Tabitha SCARBURGH (1639-) Marriage: 1716 Children: Robert (1717-) Edward (1719-1792) Charles (1723-1806) Elizabeth (1728-1760) Notes for Secretary John CARTER 1Eldest son. Sources 1. “Some Prominent Virginia Families,” Louise Pacquet du Bellet, Edward Jaquelin, Martha Cary Jaquelin, 1907, Google Books Online.

Here is some more of that same will as it is rather long and a  deed.... Marianne Dillow At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 This Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin Gent. the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a probate thereof in due form. Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. King George County Deed Book 4; pp. 539-542 These Articles of Agreement concluded 11th day May 1764 between LUCY CARTER Relict of CHARLES CARTER the Elder Esgr. late of county King George and LANDON CARTER now' of Richmond and CHARLES CARTER of county Lancaster Esqr Executors of last will and testament of Charles Carter the Elder .. said Charles Carter the Elder did in his life time by a certain instrument in writing bearing date 9th June 1763 drawn up and executed as a Marriage Contract between said Charles and above mentioned Lucy then LUCY TALIAFERRO .. oblige himself to settle on her One thousand pounds Sterling to be paid her within six months of his decease .. she did agree to accept in lieu of Dower .. also agreed to leave Lucy the land and plantation which said Charles had purchased of Executors of Maj. WILLIAM TALIAFERRO with a good and convenient dwelling house upon the same to be decently furnish'd and suitable offices thereto together with six working slaves, six house servants and their Increase including a coachman and postilion, four Beaves, six muttons, six Lambs & 1500 weight of pork over and above the produce of the said plantation and slaves with a Chariot and six horses all of which .. were to be held by Lucy during the time she should continue the widow of said Charles only and Lucy now the relict and one of the contracting parties of these presents being willing as she has survived the said Charles her husband to accept of a compensation for the Plantation and tract of land the houses to be built on the same, the furniture for such Houses, the working and house slaves .. the said LANDON CARTER and CHARLES CARTER also being willing that such compensation should be made .. the several contracting parties agree the sum of Six hundred pounds current money shall remain as a Debt upon the Estate for use of ANN WALKER CARTER now an infant of about age of two months and daughter of said Charles the Elder deceased and Lucy Garter to be as a Fortune for said Ann Walker Carter to be paid her at age of twenty one or Lawfully married .. that twelve months from date of these presents the sum of Thirty pounds current money as one years Interest for said 600 pounds be paid Lucy Carter for maintenance of Ann Walker Carter and for every year 600 pounds sha] I remain as a Debt .. if Ann Walker Carter dies before age twenty one Estate to pay Lucy Carter Four hundred pounds of the Six hundred pounds .. Presence John Tennent, Lucy Carter Chs. Carter, John Skath Landon Carter Charles Carter At a court held 7th June 1764 .. Articles of Agreement admitted to recor --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:41 PM Marianne - That was the will that started the court case to which I referred. Apparently there was a subsequent dispute between Landon Jr. and John as to how the land should be divided between them. A later court suit (actually a continuation of the first but filed separately) gives further details. Landon Jr. and John apparently came to an agreement but it was never carried out before John's death - and that was when things got hairy. But I do think the answer to the original question will be found within this branch of the family. There are enough John's to go around. Jackie marianne dillow wrote: > I came in late too.... Marianne Dillow > > I have parts of a will here: > > Will of Landon Carter (1770/1779) of Sabine Hall, Richmond County, Virginia > > > ***************************************************************************************** > > In the > Name of God Amen, I Landon Carter of Sabine Hall in Richmond County > being of sound and disposing mind and memory the fourth day of > September in the year of our Lord seven hundred and seventy do make > this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking all other Wills that > have been heretofore made by me. > > Item 1st. I intend that my > son Robert Wormeley Carter shall have one half of my slaves excepting I > have hereafter given to George Carter my grandson and to Robert > Hamilton and the other half much the same excepting just mentioned to > be actually divided between my sons Landon Carter and John Carter. But > whereas I have by a kind of gift or schedule signed by me the twenty > second of December in the year Seven thousand and sixty hereunto > annexed in a manner made over and given to my sons Landon and John > forty two slaves to be equally divided between them. And whereas I have > also given to my son Robert Wormley Carter fourteen slaves the > thirteenth day of November in the same years and Schedule hereunto > annexed which said several slaves of said sons have severally and > respectively had the possession of agreeable to such intended Gifts. > I > do hereby appoint my friends Mr. Nelson Berkeley, Mr. Robert Beverly, > The Honble. John Tayloe and Mr. Richard Parker my trustees to divide > all my slaves except as before mentioned to George Carter & Robert > Hamilton into four equal parts and I do desire that in the said > division they have negros to the number and not to the Quality of these > Slaves that have already been given or mentioned to have been given by > me (but not their increase) to my said sons the gifts before mentioned > so as my intention may be complied with in giving my estate as I have > before declared (to wit) two fourths of my slaves to be divided to my > son Robert Wormley Carter to be allotted him by my said Trustees in > which lot Johnson a Mulatto, Betty a daughter to old Frank and [creased > - next two-three lines partially illegible] not their increase may be > included. One fourth part of my said slaves including those before > mentioned to be given by deed as aforesaid (but not their increase) so > my son Landon Carter and his [illegible] fourth part including those > slaves before said to be given by the said Deed but not their increase. > > To my son John Carter to be allotted him by my said trustees as > aforesaid, and in order to prevent any [illegible] that may otherwise > happen in the Division and for a future [illegible] to my said Trustees > in the division of my slaves as aforesaid I do discharge my intention > to be that my several Sons amt. stand to their satisfaction in the > slaves I have by deed as aforesaid given them so that the number of > such slaves whereby given by the deed as aforesaid must be the > principal Consideration of my said trustees and the division to be made > as aforesaid without their [illegible] from the date of the said gift > which I intended each son should [illegible- fold/crease] > ************************************************************************************ > by as I subjected them to any loss that might happen in the Slaves given them as before. > >  As I have given so large a proportion of my slaves to my son Robert > lest it should be thought that the slaves which I hold under the Will > of my deceased brother George Carter are entailed (though I am fully > persuaded they are not) I do declare it to be my Will and desire that > my said son Robert should only have one Moiety or half part of all my > slaves including of such as may be adjudged to be entailed upon him on > any suit or [examination?] to be brought by him or given on his favour > of his heirs for the recovery of them upon my Brother George’s Will. > >  I give and devise to my son Robert Wormeley Carter and his heirs > forever all my lands in the counties of York, Charles City, King & > Queen, Lancaster, Northumberland, Richmond, Westmoreland, King George > & Stafford and all my lands upon Chenandoah [sic] River as is all > those in the County of Frederick as that tract on the blue Ridge on the > Virginia side of Chimans River as it is called by the upper Inhabitants > [crease - illegible] I have hereinafter given to Robert Hamilton in > case that tract may happen in King George, Stafford or Prince William > Countie. > > At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 > > This > Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert > Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors > therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved > to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin > Gent. > the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of > David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said > Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a > probate thereof in due form. > > Test.  LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. > Copy  Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. > > > And after all that I don't know if this is the right one or not. LOL ! > > Marianne Dillow > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:16 PM > > I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court > case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles > Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of > John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and > his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and > Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John > Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley > Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of > John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward > Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John > Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as > heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh > Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those > children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. > > The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely  the son of Landon > Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. > > This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case  > begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of > those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. > > Jackie > > > > marianne dillow wrote: >    >> Chocy, >> >> I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. >> >> Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton of England. >> >> i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley >> >> ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry Corbin. >> >> iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. >> >> Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : >> >> "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. >> >> Signed: John Carter >> >> Marianne Dillow >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: >> >> From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM >> >> Marrianne, >>       I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a  son to a John >> CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon  as Pat said >> there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. >>       I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their  fathers were not >> named John CARTER. >>      Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER,  son of this John >> CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others.  (given names >> in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on  repeating >> themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they  all got >> together at a gathering!) >>      If I knew that the "Secretary" John  CARTER had a son named Wormley, >> then I would be more sure that I had the  right family. >> Chocy >>    >> >>    >>      > >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAFAUQUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't you just hate it when they keep naming each other after the other one.. generation after generation. LOL !   I think the snow is getting to me plus I fell and broke my left ankle and had surgery and am in a boot until March 16th when I start physical therapy.. it is called black ice no one can see .. and I didn't.  I have to have a sense of humor until then.  Playing around with the Carters adds to the humor.  LOL ! Marianne Dillow --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:41 PM Marianne - That was the will that started the court case to which I referred. Apparently there was a subsequent dispute between Landon Jr. and John as to how the land should be divided between them. A later court suit (actually a continuation of the first but filed separately) gives further details. Landon Jr. and John apparently came to an agreement but it was never carried out before John's death - and that was when things got hairy. But I do think the answer to the original question will be found within this branch of the family. There are enough John's to go around. Jackie marianne dillow wrote: > I came in late too.... Marianne Dillow > > I have parts of a will here: > > Will of Landon Carter (1770/1779) of Sabine Hall, Richmond County, Virginia > > > ***************************************************************************************** > > In the > Name of God Amen, I Landon Carter of Sabine Hall in Richmond County > being of sound and disposing mind and memory the fourth day of > September in the year of our Lord seven hundred and seventy do make > this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking all other Wills that > have been heretofore made by me. > > Item 1st. I intend that my > son Robert Wormeley Carter shall have one half of my slaves excepting I > have hereafter given to George Carter my grandson and to Robert > Hamilton and the other half much the same excepting just mentioned to > be actually divided between my sons Landon Carter and John Carter. But > whereas I have by a kind of gift or schedule signed by me the twenty > second of December in the year Seven thousand and sixty hereunto > annexed in a manner made over and given to my sons Landon and John > forty two slaves to be equally divided between them. And whereas I have > also given to my son Robert Wormley Carter fourteen slaves the > thirteenth day of November in the same years and Schedule hereunto > annexed which said several slaves of said sons have severally and > respectively had the possession of agreeable to such intended Gifts. > I > do hereby appoint my friends Mr. Nelson Berkeley, Mr. Robert Beverly, > The Honble. John Tayloe and Mr. Richard Parker my trustees to divide > all my slaves except as before mentioned to George Carter & Robert > Hamilton into four equal parts and I do desire that in the said > division they have negros to the number and not to the Quality of these > Slaves that have already been given or mentioned to have been given by > me (but not their increase) to my said sons the gifts before mentioned > so as my intention may be complied with in giving my estate as I have > before declared (to wit) two fourths of my slaves to be divided to my > son Robert Wormley Carter to be allotted him by my said Trustees in > which lot Johnson a Mulatto, Betty a daughter to old Frank and [creased > - next two-three lines partially illegible] not their increase may be > included. One fourth part of my said slaves including those before > mentioned to be given by deed as aforesaid (but not their increase) so > my son Landon Carter and his [illegible] fourth part including those > slaves before said to be given by the said Deed but not their increase. > > To my son John Carter to be allotted him by my said trustees as > aforesaid, and in order to prevent any [illegible] that may otherwise > happen in the Division and for a future [illegible] to my said Trustees > in the division of my slaves as aforesaid I do discharge my intention > to be that my several Sons amt. stand to their satisfaction in the > slaves I have by deed as aforesaid given them so that the number of > such slaves whereby given by the deed as aforesaid must be the > principal Consideration of my said trustees and the division to be made > as aforesaid without their [illegible] from the date of the said gift > which I intended each son should [illegible- fold/crease] > ************************************************************************************ > by as I subjected them to any loss that might happen in the Slaves given them as before. > >  As I have given so large a proportion of my slaves to my son Robert > lest it should be thought that the slaves which I hold under the Will > of my deceased brother George Carter are entailed (though I am fully > persuaded they are not) I do declare it to be my Will and desire that > my said son Robert should only have one Moiety or half part of all my > slaves including of such as may be adjudged to be entailed upon him on > any suit or [examination?] to be brought by him or given on his favour > of his heirs for the recovery of them upon my Brother George’s Will. > >  I give and devise to my son Robert Wormeley Carter and his heirs > forever all my lands in the counties of York, Charles City, King & > Queen, Lancaster, Northumberland, Richmond, Westmoreland, King George > & Stafford and all my lands upon Chenandoah [sic] River as is all > those in the County of Frederick as that tract on the blue Ridge on the > Virginia side of Chimans River as it is called by the upper Inhabitants > [crease - illegible] I have hereinafter given to Robert Hamilton in > case that tract may happen in King George, Stafford or Prince William > Countie. > > At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 > > This > Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert > Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors > therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved > to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin > Gent. > the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of > David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said > Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a > probate thereof in due form. > > Test.  LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. > Copy  Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. > > > And after all that I don't know if this is the right one or not. LOL ! > > Marianne Dillow > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:16 PM > > I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court > case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles > Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of > John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and > his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and > Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John > Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley > Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of > John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward > Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John > Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as > heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh > Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those > children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. > > The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely  the son of Landon > Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. > > This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case  > begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of > those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. > > Jackie > > > > marianne dillow wrote: >    >> Chocy, >> >> I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. >> >> Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton of England. >> >> i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley >> >> ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry Corbin. >> >> iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. >> >> Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : >> >> "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. >> >> Signed: John Carter >> >> Marianne Dillow >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: >> >> From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? >> To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM >> >> Marrianne, >>       I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a  son to a John >> CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon  as Pat said >> there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. >>       I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their  fathers were not >> named John CARTER. >>      Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER,  son of this John >> CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others.  (given names >> in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on  repeating >> themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they  all got >> together at a gathering!) >>      If I knew that the "Secretary" John  CARTER had a son named Wormley, >> then I would be more sure that I had the  right family. >> Chocy >>    >> >>    >>      > > 

I came in late too.... Marianne Dillow I have parts of a will here: Will of Landon Carter (1770/1779) of Sabine Hall, Richmond County, Virginia ***************************************************************************************** In the Name of God Amen, I Landon Carter of Sabine Hall in Richmond County being of sound and disposing mind and memory the fourth day of September in the year of our Lord seven hundred and seventy do make this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking all other Wills that have been heretofore made by me. Item 1st. I intend that my son Robert Wormeley Carter shall have one half of my slaves excepting I have hereafter given to George Carter my grandson and to Robert Hamilton and the other half much the same excepting just mentioned to be actually divided between my sons Landon Carter and John Carter. But whereas I have by a kind of gift or schedule signed by me the twenty second of December in the year Seven thousand and sixty hereunto annexed in a manner made over and given to my sons Landon and John forty two slaves to be equally divided between them. And whereas I have also given to my son Robert Wormley Carter fourteen slaves the thirteenth day of November in the same years and Schedule hereunto annexed which said several slaves of said sons have severally and respectively had the possession of agreeable to such intended Gifts. I do hereby appoint my friends Mr. Nelson Berkeley, Mr. Robert Beverly, The Honble. John Tayloe and Mr. Richard Parker my trustees to divide all my slaves except as before mentioned to George Carter & Robert Hamilton into four equal parts and I do desire that in the said division they have negros to the number and not to the Quality of these Slaves that have already been given or mentioned to have been given by me (but not their increase) to my said sons the gifts before mentioned so as my intention may be complied with in giving my estate as I have before declared (to wit) two fourths of my slaves to be divided to my son Robert Wormley Carter to be allotted him by my said Trustees in which lot Johnson a Mulatto, Betty a daughter to old Frank and [creased - next two-three lines partially illegible] not their increase may be included. One fourth part of my said slaves including those before mentioned to be given by deed as aforesaid (but not their increase) so my son Landon Carter and his [illegible] fourth part including those slaves before said to be given by the said Deed but not their increase. To my son John Carter to be allotted him by my said trustees as aforesaid, and in order to prevent any [illegible] that may otherwise happen in the Division and for a future [illegible] to my said Trustees in the division of my slaves as aforesaid I do discharge my intention to be that my several Sons amt. stand to their satisfaction in the slaves I have by deed as aforesaid given them so that the number of such slaves whereby given by the deed as aforesaid must be the principal Consideration of my said trustees and the division to be made as aforesaid without their [illegible] from the date of the said gift which I intended each son should [illegible- fold/crease] ************************************************************************************ by as I subjected them to any loss that might happen in the Slaves given them as before.  As I have given so large a proportion of my slaves to my son Robert lest it should be thought that the slaves which I hold under the Will of my deceased brother George Carter are entailed (though I am fully persuaded they are not) I do declare it to be my Will and desire that my said son Robert should only have one Moiety or half part of all my slaves including of such as may be adjudged to be entailed upon him on any suit or [examination?] to be brought by him or given on his favour of his heirs for the recovery of them upon my Brother George’s Will.  I give and devise to my son Robert Wormeley Carter and his heirs forever all my lands in the counties of York, Charles City, King & Queen, Lancaster, Northumberland, Richmond, Westmoreland, King George & Stafford and all my lands upon Chenandoah [sic] River as is all those in the County of Frederick as that tract on the blue Ridge on the Virginia side of Chimans River as it is called by the upper Inhabitants [crease - illegible] I have hereinafter given to Robert Hamilton in case that tract may happen in King George, Stafford or Prince William Countie. At a Court held for Richmond County the 1st day of Feby. 1779 This Will of Landon Carter Esqr. deceased was presented in Court by Robert Wormeley Carter, Landon Carter and John Carter Gent. the Executors therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and being proved to wit the Will and Schedule by William Beale and Walter Tomlin Gent. the first Codicil by Thomas Parker and the last codicil by the oath of David Boyd Gent. was admitted to Record, and on the motion of the said Executors giving Security a certificate is granted them for obtaining a probate thereof in due form. Test. LeRoy Peachey D. Ct. Cur. Copy Test. LeRoy Peachey Clk. And after all that I don't know if this is the right one or not. LOL ! Marianne Dillow --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:16 PM I came in on this discussion a bit late - but a Fauquier county court case that I have looked at (1976-012) shows as a plaintiff Charles Landon Carter Erc. and defendcents the Administrators of the estate of John Carter. If you look up the case it lists Charles Landon Carter and his brother Moore Fauntleroy Carter (sons of Landdon Carter Jr. and Judith Fauntleroy as suing their cousins - the administrators of John Carter ....The administrators are listed as Landon Carter, Wormley Carter and Robert Carter - but the case goes on to list the heirs of John Carter deceased as Robert, Landon, Anne Beale, John and Edward Carter and his wife Jane. Edward Carter would not be a son of John Carter - He married his cousin Jane who was his daughter. Also listed as heirs but infants under the age 21 are George Carter, William Fitzhugh Carter, Edward Carter Jr., Betsy Carter and Matilda Carter. Those children are all listed as having Robert Carter as a guardian. The John Carter deceased would be John of Sudely  the son of Landon Carter and Elizabeth Wormley. This side of the family was embroiled in a long standing court case  begun about 1796 which if my memory serves me right outlasted many of those who were involved and well into the 1820s or early 1830s. Jackie marianne dillow wrote: > Chocy, > > I have seen those also. One reason this interests me is because Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandparents and I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. > > Martha Eltonhead and her sisters are the daughters of Richard Eltonhead and Ann Sutton of England. > > i. Agatha Eltonhead married three times. (1) Luke Stubbins (2) Raplph Wormley, Sr (3) Henry Chicheley > > ii. Alice Eltonhead married three times and her second husbans is Henry Corbin. > > iii. Eleanor Eltonhead married twice and one was to Col. John Carter. He died Jun 1669 in Nomini Hall in Lancaster Co., Va. > > Several gifts were made by them to my next grandmother Eltonead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Among them was : > > "These p'sents witnesseth that I Col. John Carter of Rapn river in the County of Lancaster in Virginia Seq for ye love that I bear towards my niece Eltonhead the Daughter of Edwyn Connaway have been granted and assigned and have given order to be dlivered and do by these p'sents give grant assign and deliver unto Edwyn Connaway for ye use of ye said Eltonhead the oldest heifer that I have in ye possession and ye plantation of William Lucas on ye South Side of Rapn River coloured red and a flower de luce on both ears, to have and to hold ye said heifer withall her increase both male and female unto her ye said Eltnhead Connaway her heirs Exers admirs and Assn forever without ye lawful let or disturbance of any pson or psons whatsoever In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand ye 9th day of april al Dom 1656. > > Signed: John Carter > > Marianne Dillow > > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: > > From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? > To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM > > Marrianne, >      I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a  son to a John > CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon  as Pat said > there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon. >      I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their  fathers were not > named John CARTER. >     Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER,  son of this John > CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others.  (given names > in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on  repeating > themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they  all got > together at a gathering!) >     If I knew that the "Secretary" John  CARTER had a son named Wormley, > then I would be more sure that I had the  right family. > Chocy >  > > 

Well, in saying that I have lost the poster who had the dates. Do you have the dates ? Marianne Dillow --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> wrote: From: Chocybrown@aol.com <Chocybrown@aol.com> Subject: Re: [VAFAUQUI] Who is this Landon, Wormly & Rob't CARTER? To: vafauqui@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:34 PM Marrianne,      I have 6 Landon CARTERs, but none connected as a  son to a John CARTER, except Charles CARTER who may have been called by Landon  as Pat said there was a Charles CARTER that went by Landon.      I do have two Charles Landon CARTERs; but their  fathers were not named John CARTER.     Pat statement makes sense, as the Charles CARTER,  son of this John CARTER may have had the middle name of Landon, like the others.  (given names in these connecting families, as you know, just keep right on  repeating themeselves--------they must have drove each other crazy if they  all got together at a gathering!)     If I knew that the "Secretary" John  CARTER had a son named Wormley, then I would be more sure that I had the  right family. Chocy